Title: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: rogerlancelot on September 01, 2010, 12:53:23 AM It is now available as a free pdf file by the author here:
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html (http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/30/shiners-glimpses-bac.html) I just read it all for the first time today and it totally blew my mind. Definitely worth a look! Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 01, 2010, 12:57:10 AM One of the more interesting points about this excellent book is that Shiner didn't hear any of the Smile music until after he'd written it.
Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: rogerlancelot on September 01, 2010, 01:09:18 AM One of the more interesting points about this excellent book is that Shiner didn't hear any of the Smile music until after he'd written it. That's interesting because the story takes place 1988-1989 and was published in 1993. Surely Smile tapes were leaking out back by then. And then the SS/WH 2-fer and the box set in '93. Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 01, 2010, 01:12:25 AM One of the more interesting points about this excellent book is that Shiner didn't hear any of the Smile music until after he'd written it. That's interesting because the story takes place 1988-1989 and was published in 1993. Surely Smile tapes were leaking out back by then. And then the SS/WH 2-fer and the box set in '93. Just going by what the author said in a 1995 issue of Pulse about OCA. Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: buddhahat on September 01, 2010, 01:31:39 AM Thanks so much for posting the link. I have been wanting to read this for a while.
Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: rogerlancelot on September 01, 2010, 01:35:05 AM Thanks so much for posting the link. I have been wanting to read this for a while. I wasted most of my day today reading it instead of doing other things I needed to do. Once I got started though I couldn't stop until it was over. That must mean it is very good. Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: The Shift on September 01, 2010, 02:02:58 AM Loved the book - turned me on to other music too.
Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: rasmus skotte on September 02, 2010, 01:33:15 AM Can someone explain why this great book by Shiner was never picked up for cinematic treatment???
At least the SMiLE rescue scenarios were incorporated into the 'Daft Beach Movie' - for what it's worth... Oh yes I know: NOT a whole lot. Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 02, 2010, 02:14:08 AM I'm thinking the licensing would be a complete nightmare: Beatles... Doors... Beach Boys... Hendrix...
Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: rogerlancelot on September 02, 2010, 02:16:15 AM Can someone explain why this great book by Shiner was never picked up for cinematic treatment??? At least the SMiLE rescue scenarios were incorporated into the 'Daft Beach Movie' - for what it's worth... Oh yes I know: NOT a whole lot. Possibly because for a cinematic treatment it would require a large budget like the kind that Hollywood blows freely, and let's face it, Hollywood only RE-makes movies these days. When is the last time you've seen anything original come out of here??? Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: buddhahat on September 02, 2010, 05:13:44 AM Can someone explain why this great book by Shiner was never picked up for cinematic treatment??? At least the SMiLE rescue scenarios were incorporated into the 'Daft Beach Movie' - for what it's worth... Oh yes I know: NOT a whole lot. Funnily enough I was thinking last night whilst reading it, that he effectively wrote an unfilmable book! How would you realise the music he's reimagining? For instance, the Beatles Get Back stuff - you could use existing Let It Be outtakes, but then trainspotters like us are going to know it's genuine session material, so the whole premise would already be on shaky ground. Unless you got a modern band to fake it, which would undermine credibility of the the whole thing. I think some books work best as books and this is a good example. Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 02, 2010, 05:15:32 AM Can someone explain why this great book by Shiner was never picked up for cinematic treatment??? At least the SMiLE rescue scenarios were incorporated into the 'Daft Beach Movie' - for what it's worth... Oh yes I know: NOT a whole lot. Funnily enough I was thinking last night whilst reading it, that he effectively wrote an unfilmable book! How would you realise the music he's reimagining? For instance, the Beatles Get Back stuff - you could use existing Let It Be outtakes, but then trainspotters like us are going to know it's genuine session material, so the whole premise would already be on shaky ground. Unless you got a modern band to fake it, which would undermine credibility of the the whole thing. I think some books work best as books and this is a good example. 'xactly - the best pictures are on radio. Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: Reddiwhip on August 28, 2012, 02:50:12 PM Also found it interesting that Shiner said that Brian sang a high interweaving falsetto part to the Child is Father of the Man acetate, which we didn't find out about until 2011 with the boxset.
Either he got lucky or... :brian Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: CosmicDancer on August 30, 2012, 01:52:56 PM I bought this book about 12 years ago on the recommendation of my brother-in-law who knows that I'm a big Beach Boys geek. This is a terrific read. Anyone that hasn't already read it should jump all over this opportunity to enjoy it for free.
Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 31, 2012, 01:36:14 PM Also found it interesting that Shiner said that Brian sang a high interweaving falsetto part to the Child is Father of the Man acetate, which we didn't find out about until 2011 with the boxset. Either he got lucky or... :brian Shiner stated in a 1995 interview that before writing Glimpses he'd not heard a single note of Smile. Like I said in the 2nd post of this thread: jeez, and folk wonder why i get cranky sometimes... Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on August 31, 2012, 02:02:31 PM I have an old recording from my CIFOTM cover back in 2010 where I sang a random falsetto part that sounds a ton like the acetate one, and same with DYLW and the melody.
Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: runnersdialzero on August 31, 2012, 02:31:03 PM Also found it interesting that Shiner said that Brian sang a high interweaving falsetto part to the Child is Father of the Man acetate, which we didn't find out about until 2011 with the boxset. Either he got lucky or... :brian Shiner stated in a 1995 interview that before writing Glimpses he'd not heard a single note of Smile. Like I said in the 2nd post of this thread: jeez, and folk wonder why i get cranky sometimes... Obviously, he's just saying it's an eerie coincidence that Shriner gave a specific detail about "Child" that wasn't on any known version of the song until the acetate used on a mix of the song 22 years later was found and used. Like, what are the odds? Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: Reddiwhip on August 31, 2012, 02:36:59 PM Also found it interesting that Shiner said that Brian sang a high interweaving falsetto part to the Child is Father of the Man acetate, which we didn't find out about until 2011 with the boxset. Either he got lucky or... :brian Shiner stated in a 1995 interview that before writing Glimpses he'd not heard a single note of Smile. Like I said in the 2nd post of this thread: jeez, and folk wonder why i get cranky sometimes... Obviously, he's just saying it's an eerie coincidence that Shriner gave a specific detail about "Child" that wasn't on any known version of the song until the acetate used on a mix of the song 22 years later was found and used. Like, what are the odds? Bingo. Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on August 31, 2012, 03:02:43 PM Wow. Reading that was as amazing as hearing Smile for the first time on TSS. No joke.
I have a pretty strange problem with my hearing, according to the doctors, I hear too well do to a problem with the auditory nerve that normally tightens, I've always had these weird "ghost sounds" I hear "bangs" and "booms" and sometimes someone yelling. However, sometimes I hear music, it's SO strange, you know when you hear a loud sound randomly, your hairs stand up, and you feel a shock? That's what it feels like. This is actually how I write songs sometimes, its weird, but when I was reading the end... I could almost hear it... The Bicycle Rider theme... swirling... horns... the dominoes... wow. Thank you so much for this. If I hadn't have read this I would have never heard it. It was the single most amazing 10 minutes of my life, reading those words so slowly... and "hearing" them. Wow. Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on August 31, 2012, 03:10:25 PM I'm trying to recreate it... Oh My God...
Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on August 31, 2012, 04:09:50 PM I Tried really hard to get this as close to what I heard as possible, but some things don't exist and fitting it together was iffy...
http://soundcloud.com/mikeleroymusic/smile-coda Imagine that, over the Surf's Up Coda, it wasn't fitting well enough to do it all justice. Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: ontor pertawst on August 31, 2012, 06:13:22 PM What a fantastic book, if you're in the right mood it'll tear you apart.
Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on August 31, 2012, 06:51:46 PM Just bought a copy, one of the old ones with the cool cover.
Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: seltaeb1012002 on September 01, 2012, 02:55:37 AM Damn that was awesome. Great writing, I felt like I was there with him. Thanks OP
http://soundcloud.com/mikeleroymusic/smile-coda Good stuff man ;D Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: ontor pertawst on September 01, 2012, 11:19:23 AM You'd think they'd have given Ray a credit on the Smile Sessions boxed set.
Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on September 01, 2012, 11:52:47 AM That'd be so cool. I love alternate history books!
What's up with music books and the name Ray? Pete Townshends lifehoue had that too! Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on September 03, 2012, 08:16:37 PM Can someone explain why this great book by Shiner was never picked up for cinematic treatment??? At least the SMiLE rescue scenarios were incorporated into the 'Daft Beach Movie' - for what it's worth... Oh yes I know: NOT a whole lot. Possibly because for a cinematic treatment it would require a large budget like the kind that Hollywood blows freely, and let's face it, Hollywood only RE-makes movies these days. When is the last time you've seen anything original come out of here??? Wes Anderson and Michael Gondry movies! Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: Alex on September 03, 2012, 10:15:47 PM Can someone explain why this great book by Shiner was never picked up for cinematic treatment??? At least the SMiLE rescue scenarios were incorporated into the 'Daft Beach Movie' - for what it's worth... Oh yes I know: NOT a whole lot. Possibly because for a cinematic treatment it would require a large budget like the kind that Hollywood blows freely, and let's face it, Hollywood only RE-makes movies these days. When is the last time you've seen anything original come out of here??? Wes Anderson and Michael Gondry movies! Title: Re: Glimpses by Lewis Shriner Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on September 04, 2012, 10:13:24 PM Can someone explain why this great book by Shiner was never picked up for cinematic treatment??? At least the SMiLE rescue scenarios were incorporated into the 'Daft Beach Movie' - for what it's worth... Oh yes I know: NOT a whole lot. Possibly because for a cinematic treatment it would require a large budget like the kind that Hollywood blows freely, and let's face it, Hollywood only RE-makes movies these days. When is the last time you've seen anything original come out of here??? Wes Anderson and Michael Gondry movies! Oopsy! To make up for it, I will start spelling it Michel Love. :) |