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Title: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: TV Forces on February 22, 2006, 04:51:50 PM
What on earth is this?
Who is singing?

Does anyone have any details?


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on February 22, 2006, 04:55:53 PM
It's the Pickle Brothers, I'm pretty sure.  "Mike's Redwood," if you will.  A potential outside production for Brother records.


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: TV Forces on February 22, 2006, 04:57:43 PM
Is that the same with "It's Time"?
Is this stuff serious?


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on February 22, 2006, 05:00:48 PM
They were some kind of comedy group.  So no, not really serious.


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Jason Penick on February 22, 2006, 06:20:22 PM
I rather enjoy "It's Time".  Reminds me a bit of the Loaded era VU for some weird reason.


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: I. Spaceman on February 22, 2006, 09:17:43 PM
Betty Joe is a parody of Bobbie Gentry's classic Ode To Billie Joe.


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Rocker on February 23, 2006, 03:40:49 AM
Mike produced that stuff, right?  So why wouldn't he let Brian doing Redwood?


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on February 23, 2006, 03:46:34 AM
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Mike produced that stuff, right?  So why wouldn't he let Brian doing Redwood?

The issue was that Redwood wanted to be doing LPs, but they were only going to be signed to produce singles.  Redwood wasn't willing to just be a singles band, so they left Brother.


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on February 23, 2006, 04:00:23 AM
I think The Pickle Brothers used to open for the BB back in the day.


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Rocker on February 23, 2006, 04:12:08 AM
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Mike produced that stuff, right?  So why wouldn't he let Brian doing Redwood?

The issue was that Redwood wanted to be doing LPs, but they were only going to be signed to produce singles.  Redwood wasn't willing to just be a singles band, so they left Brother.

Ah, okay. Thank you. I wonder how the story might have been if the plan with producing outside would have happened in a big way....


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Jason Penick on February 23, 2006, 11:58:31 AM
Two questions:

Why was it okay for Brian to produce a spoken word album for Steve Kalinich, but not an album for Redwood?  Wouldn't the Redwood album have had a better chance of moving units than a poetry album by a relative unknown?


Okay, one more question!

Does anybody know anything about this version of "Let the Wind Blow" with lead vocal by "Amy"?


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Jason on February 23, 2006, 12:01:12 PM
Probably because the Beach Boys heard the Kalinich album (it sucks) and the Redwood material was halfway decent, even good.

Let the Wind Blow (Amy vocal) is a rare track that I'm doing my best to get out. I posted it back at the old Smile Shop. "Amy" was a woman Bruce had met and wanted to sign to Brother Records, hence the recording. Nothing came of it.


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Jason Penick on February 23, 2006, 09:58:19 PM
Probably because the Beach Boys heard the Kalinich album (it sucks) and the Redwood material was halfway decent, even good.


I think I would enjoy Stevie's album if "America I Know You" is any indication.  I admire the guy, and anything Brian was involved in 1968 is of extreme interest to me.


Title: Re: "Ode to Betty Joe"
Post by: Dancing Bear on February 26, 2006, 07:23:52 AM
Two questions:

Why was it okay for Brian to produce a spoken word album for Steve Kalinich, but not an album for Redwood?  Wouldn't the Redwood album have had a better chance of moving units than a poetry album by a relative unknown?

Because Brian was giving "Darling" to Redwood, a Beach Boys top 20. Those kind of chart appearances were getting rare those days. Seriously, a Darling-less Wild Honey and a Redwwod Darling single would both bomb horribly in the charts. As things happened, Wild Honey only bombed moderately and Three Dog Night moved on to sell gazillions of records.