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As the anniversary approaches, I'm sure ideas are being tossed around, but one that I'd love is a new archival release (particularly of 1970 to present). Some of the tracks I'd include would be some tracks that are only found on really rare albums and left over live tracks recorded for future/unused live albums.  I'd love to see what stuff you want released.

proper mixes:
-Sound of Free
-10 Years of Harmony
-Rock and Roll to the Rescue
-Chasin' the Sky
-It's a Beautiful Day
-California Dreamin'
-Wouldn't it Be Nice (live at Big Sur)
-Happy Birthday America
-Crocodile Rock
-California (from Stars and Stripes)
-East Meets West
-Almost Summer
-Sea Cruise

Live tracks recorded but unused for unknown reasons:
-At the Hop (intended for 1985 album)
-You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone (intended for the first In Concert album)
-Jumpin' Jack Flash ("    ")
-God Only Knows (Beachago)
-Darlin' ("     ")
-Searchin' (with Grateful Dead in 71)
-Your Song (Bruce on lead, lecturing audience  ;D)
-I've Got a Friend
-Okie From Muskogee
-Rock and Roll Woman
-I write the Songs (Knebworth 80)
-Santa Ana Winds ("    ")
-River Song (live in 73)
-Country Pie (live in 78)
-Dead Man's Curve (with Jan and Dean in 78)
-Imagine
-Spirit of Rock and Roll (at the 20th or 25th anniversary show, I can't remember which one)
-Runaway
-Still Cruisin'
-Lady Liberty

and then some songs that just need to be RELEASED of great songwriting
-Big Sur (original version)
-It's Trying to Say
-Deep Purple (just a great rendition that needs released)
-Lines
-Flowers Come in the Spring
-Lookin' Down the Coast
-Seasons in the Sun
-You're Still a Mystery
-Stevie
-We Got Love
-Wouldn't it Be Nice to Live again?
-It's a New Day
-California Feeling (74 and 78 cut)
-It's Like Heaven
-Come to the Sunshine
Sweet Mountain
-original Ding Dang
-First Love
-Carry Me Home
-Here Comes the Sun (Dennis cover)

Sure, it's a lot and prolly impossible, but a SmileySmiler can dream, right?

and yes, I do know some of this stuff like Sweet Mountain and such are on the American Spring albums but when was the last time you saw that in stores?  ;)

Ok, I'm just gonna go with unreleased tracks, and try to make a nice comp....here goes nothin:

-California Feelin' (Brian '74)
-Where Is She (Brian '69)
-(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again (Dennis '71)
-You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling (Brian '76)
-Burlesque (Brian? '72)
-Carry Me Home (Dennis, Blondie '72)
-Sweetie (Brian, Mike, Al '81)
-Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love (Mike '81)
-You're Still A Mystery (Brian, Mike '95)
-Game of Love (Mike '67)
-Baby I Need Your Lovin'/Gimme Some Lovin' (Brian, D. Sandler '73)

*Singers and recording year to the best of my knowledge in parethesis.

I'm sure if this was put out, there would have to be more of a Mike, Al, and possibly Carl presence, so we'd probably end up with some random Mike solo song, and some Al song that was started 35 years ago. I just hope that if they do indeed do an archive release, they include the '74 California Feelin', (WIBN)TLA, Where Is She?, and Burlesque, since for the first 3 I've heard great reviews from AGD and the like....and for the last by Mr. Jack Reilly, who made "Burlesque" sound quite intriguing, especailly considering it was during the C&TP era.

Here's mine:

1. Back Home(1963 version)

2."Brian at the piano"(short clip on the Garage Tapes)

3. Blowin' In The Wind(Party! outtake)

4. Mona Kani(Dennis track)

5. "water chant"(SMiLE outtake)

6. Do You Like Worms?(version with the weird slide guitar at the end)

7. Look

8. Tones

9. I'm Going Your Way(Dennis outtake)

10.  Add Some Music(original lyrics)

11. Breakaway(acapella)

12. My Solution(just because it's quirky as hell  ;D)

13. Big Sur(original version)

14. Surf's Up(acapella)

15. You Need A Mess Of Help( live soundboard recording)

16. River Song( see above)

17. River Song(1974 outtake()

18. California Feeling(1974 Brian demo)

19. Lucy Jones( Brian demo, mainly to chronical his changing voice)

20. song that adamghost has heard but won't reveal the name of(see above)

21. Mount Vernon and Fairway(Home recording of Brian. In my mind, the original master tape would be remastered, and the demo would go on for sveral minutes, like the booted version)

22. Rollin' Up To Heaven

23. Good Timin'(original 1974 version)

24. The Night Was So Young(acapella)

25. Adult Child(comeplete album recorded as is, as a bonus disc.  ;D)

26. Lazy Lizzy(or however you spell it)

27. Marilyn Rovell

28. California Feeling(studio version with Carl and Bruce singing)

29. Here Comes The Night(disco version...recorded live, if any tape actually exists in the archive. I doubt it though  ;D)

30. Johnny B. Goode(just because it's the very last studio recording of The Beach Boys with Dennis playing the drums)

31. Stevie(A solo Brian recording...?)

32. Oh Lord(From the "Cocaine Session". In my mind, the original recording would be remastered, and it would be carefully edited to remove any of the "rougher" parts)

33. Why Don't You Tell Me?(see above)

34. City Blues(see above)

35. Labor Day(1983 Dennis recording, although it's very unlikely that the tape still exists)

36. "And we sang God Bless America"(second half of Endless Harmony, acapella, and programmed to be a "secret track")

All I want is a post-Smile, pre-M.I.U. sessions collection of previously (officially) unreleased tracks from ~1967-77. Why is this so much to ask for? Hell, you could probably release something like this in the U.K. where they stayed reasonably popular during this time, I reckon. Now, I would personally need it to be a multi-disc box set filled with studio demos and rehearsals, live recordings, &c., but I'd settle for something like Neil Young's Archive, Vol. 1: 1963-72 with a mix of previously-released tracks and copious rarities. ;)

Surf's Up outtake, so 1971 would be more accurate. But I agree: nr 1 on my compilation list

Why did I put '74? I thought I typed '71, and alas, I didn't. Thanks for pointing that out.

I'd like this a whole lot....yet, who wouldn't?

A new BB rarities comp, let's see... A few new stereo mixes, a couple of instrumental backing tracks and a capella mixes, a live track or two and perhaps yet another edit of the Good Vibrations recording session highlights?  ;)

I'd like a live Box Set personally, 4 discs........ 60's, 70's, 80s 90s and a companion DVD.

I like where this is going...any specific concerts or songs?

'Here Comes The Night' Disco Version - Live , yes I have a uuuuummmmmmm ***tle$ tape of said , from Radio City Music Hall 1979 and its a Soundboard  recording and if memory serves me well it is rather a good performance , just might have to dig it out sometime !!

I'd like to see that concert from 70(71?) where Mike resembles Chewbacca, Dennis is missing, Bruce proves to the world that he can't carry off a mustache and they perform a cover of Oakie from Muskogee get a decent CD DVD issue.

you mean this, don't you? except dennis is there.... if you don't that concert sounds brilliant!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpEzOkU6KgU&feature=related

That's indeed the one!! Never noticed Dennis on piano before, just that he wasn't drumming and assumed it was from when he'd sliced his hand up. I've never been all that bothered by "It's About Time" before but it really made for a great live piece. They were just so damn cool at this point and I'd love to have this concert on DVD!

would anyone be up for some beach boys solo tracks finally released on official cd?

Stuff we need on CD:

Carl Wilson
Looking Back With Love
An odds & ends collection of released tracks that never have been/are currently unavailable on CD
The Smile Sessions 1966-67
A live box 1963-93 w/DVD
A live CD from Mike & Bruce, preferably one of the UK indoor shows 2004 or 2008
A rarities/unreleased box, 1961-95

Is Going Public on an official CD?

I would love to see a lot of studio sessions from 'Today!' and 'Summer Days' (instrumental sessions as well as vocal sessions). I'd love some a cappella from those releases as well. I'd also like to see an official release of Brian's '76 piano demos.

I'd like to hear 'Party!' without the party sounds. Who doesn't want some more SMiLE material officially released?

BGO Records (www.bgo-records.com) released a Surfin' Round The World + Going Public 2fer in 2007.

Amen!

Can someone PLEASE put this man in charge of the Beach Boys catalogue?

Basically the Today!/Summer Days Sessions Boxed Set? (just like the Pet Sounds Sessions Set?)

Brian doesn't want it released.   :-D

any bonus tracks involved?

Just the ones that were on the Surfin' Round The World CD re-issue (Down Under and The Hamptons backing tracks and Surfin' Round The World alternative version).

It would be nice, if unlikely, to see a double CD released next year containing 50 rare and unreleased songs from the band's entire history. Ideally this wouldn't include alternate takes of the hits, but the genuine rarities that are out there.

Being greedy, I'd also like to have a similar double CD set featuring rare live songs that the band have played over the years.

Sister Golden Hair and Beachago tunes!

Beachago Tour of 1975 , Yes Please - That would be great , Bobby Lamb doing a solo 'Surfs Up' and especially with the Jumpin Jack Flash encore that rocked - Over to JWG for that im afraid !!!!

Serious though , the series of 50th Anniversary issues is potentially rather endless to say the least (best listen to our old tapes / boots guys and dolls)

So how did Chicago handle the backing of Surf's Up? I bet it sounded fantastic, like the trumpet part and such.

Surfs Up by Chicago was rather damn good , its on one of those cheap shitty series of BB's 'Surfin' Rarities' Boot CD's (Not That I Own It :-) and is rather low on hi-fi but still (like all boots) rather listenable

Talking of latter day 'Live Stuff' I would love a proper release (as Bruce has said on many occasion) the Paramount N.Y. 1983 Box Set Show (Possibly the Beat Ever Live BB's *oo&) and quite possibly a compilation of The BB's (Mike & Bruce) 2004 & 2008 UK Shows (As AGD points out) , they were the best I have heard a BB's Band EVER (honest) and the set list was simply beyond comprehension (just a shame Carl wasn't there) 

You know to be 100% honest, I like the unmastered Cocaine Sessions, Heroes & Villains is moody as hell.

Give us WIBNTLA! >:( (put the bootlegs in the sack and nobody gets hurt!)

It would be nice to get the Nassau 1974 show. I forgot about that one. Dennis sings Help Me Rhonda, and it is probably one of the last recordings of his "young voice".

It may be the copy I have of them, but the "cocaine sessions" do not sound significantly worse than, say, the recordings reissued by Document of 1920s and `30s -- and those were taken from shellac! It's about on par with a well-played piece-a vinyl of a field recording, I reckon. Although it's probably because, beyond the Beach Boys, that is the sort of stuff I've become intensely interested in. Thus, I am more able to tolerate the sound quality of these booted sessions. In fact, this may be quite a good tolerance to have built up when it comes to bootlegs in general. :lol

Just a correction: that Paramount concert was from 1993.  There is an excellent soundboard boot of this floating around on the Interwebs.  The accoustic set was grand; they performed quite a few chestnuts; Carl steals the show with "Caroline, No".  There is even a good live version of "Take A Load Off Your Feet" (I song I have never cared for).  Just needs a little mixing and mastering and this concert would make for a fine addition on the 50th Anniversary box set. 

This is a little offtopic, but are you talking about the Document Records label?

Yeah, the Austrian label (http://www.document-records.com/index.asp) that releases American "roots music" -- blues, jazz, folk, and so on -- from, primarily (although not exclusively), the 1920s and `30s. I don't think they spend all that much time or money on remastering though, which is sometimes distressing...

seriously???? Why?

A shame that we got no new Beach Boys compilation or archival product from Capitol this year. I fully expect Brian's 2-album deal of cover versions for Disney to be his farewell recording projects. After that, I would expect him to be more agreeable to archival projects. It brings in money, after all. And Mike Love is soon going to need a big infusion of cash to pay the lawyer bills of all those individuals and companies that he harrassed with his frivolous lawsuits. What utter gall: Love makes a miniature industry(for lawyers) out of harrassing Brian Wilson with lawsuits, then he turns around and asks Brian to tour or record with him. Brian should tell him(in no uncertain terms) to f@#k off. But one thing is sure: Brian Wilson should never again put himself in the position of being under the thumb of Mike Love. A reunion of the surviving Beach Boys would do serious mental harm to Brian Wilson.

My line about Brian not wanting it released was towards the question: Who doesn't want some more SMiLE material officially released?


I try to answer multiple questions at a time in a post, but what questions I bold will have a bold answer and what questions I italicize will be italicized.

ahhhhh didn't even notice it was italicized  :o

I could see this as Brian's farewell, but I also could see him doing another album of originals to say farewell; TLOS, coulda been that album though...Southern California was such a good track to go out on.

Regarding the '75 Beachago stuff, word is that most, if not all, of the shows were professionally recorded.  Unfortunately, many of the master reels were later destroyed in the fire at Caribou Ranch.  I could swear I remember reading an interview with J.W. Guercio that there are some surviving reels that are missing many of the tracks.  In other words, 2 machines were rolling with discreet tracks, so a reel with tracks 1-24 may be around, while it's corresponding reel with tracks 25-48 is gone.  For this reason, he refuses to release any of the material.  I think it would be interesting to hear what survived - the die hard fan could even create his / her own re-mixes.  A guy can dream, right?

Yeah... odd that. Wonder why not ?  ::)

because of next year being the anniversary?    :-\

I think I did read that information about some of the tracks being missing, but I can't remember where.  However, a couple of years ago Guercio said that no tapes were destroyed in the fire at Caribou.  The fire was in the control room of the studio, not the tape storage area.

sounds like you have to take everything Guercio says with a grain of salt....

the tapes for those shows are likely there... but until hes ready to let them go... they
will remain missing  ::)

I like Brian's demo of "Awake" a lot more than the finished American Spring version. I also find a lot of demos of BBs songs to have been different enough to warrant listening beyond merely historical curiosity. Thus, I think -- both for historical curiosity and listenablility -- there should be a box set of demos (no alt. takes or anything) for BBs songs spanning 1963-78.

Gosh Darn !  That never occured to me !  ::)

edit: "Gosh Darn" ??!? Who's programming the profanity filter, Alan friggin' Jardine ?   ;D  And if he is, instead of "what the f*** ?" I want "hey Brian, what's happening ?"

Golly gee, that'd be swell!  But jeepers Wally, perhaps a more appropriate phrase would be "hmm... what's up, Brian?"  and use the sound clip from Endless Harmony    8)

just making sure I knew what was going on and there wasn't some other kind of drama going on with Capitol