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This ran in Howie Edelson's nationally syndicated radio feed: 7/12/2010
 
THE BEACH BOYS EYING UP TO FIVE FREE GLOBAL REUNION SHOWS
by Howie Edelson

The Beach Boys are eying up to five free global reunion shows in celebration of their 50th anniversary in 2011. Co-founder Al Jardine has just released his star-studded solo debut A Postcard From California -- which features a virtual Beach Boys studio reunion -- and outlined the band's tentative plans in an exclusive interview.
 
Jardine, who recently made peace with Mike Love after a decade of battling over the use of the group's name, tried to explain what Love meant when he told The Las Vegas Sun that estranged bandmember Brian Wilson would be rejoining the Beach Boys to perform a series of 50th anniversary shows, before suddenly -- and out of character -- retracting the statement: "I think what he meant to say is that we've agreed to play five -- four or five concerts; free concerts I might add, four or five free concerts around the world. Now get this -- this is like less than one per continent, right? There's just a general understanding that we would agree to do that. That's what he meant to say. But what came out was, 'I've asked Brian to rejoin me for a couple of shows.' Now, why he wouldn't say, '. . . for a reunion with Al and everybody else and Dave (Marks)' -- I don't know."
 
When pressed as for an actual timeline for these reunion shows, Jardine said, "It's just something that we agreed we could do. (Laughs) Because Brian's got his career going full steam ahead, Mike's got the band -- I think they're just trying to juggle their schedules, quite honestly."
 
Jardine was asked about a proposed backing band for the reunion dates, seeing as how all three touring factions -- Wilson, Love, and Jardine -- each have stellar musicians all capable of recreating the band's legendary sound: "No, no. It never got that far. It just got out of hand and Mike should've been a little more specific. It's gonna be quite a battle 'cause, y'know, you got about 27 people (laughs) to choose (for the backing band). You'll have to draw straws! I think the core guys should be there."
 
A while back Carl B. Wilson, the son of late Beach Boys co-founder Dennis Wilson -- and a drummer in his own right -- told us that he would love to see he and his cousin Justyn Wilson -- who's the son of the late Carl Wilson -- honoring their fathers onstage with the reunited Beach Boys: "One thing I hope would be possible which would be them to get back together and Justyn can play guitar for his dad, I could play drums for my dad. I mean, something along those lines. So yeah, that would be something that I would love to do. If there was ever a time, I'd love to be able to do something like that."
 
Love, Wilson, Jardine, and the estate of the late Carl Wilson are still partners in the Beach Boys' corporation, Brother Records Inc (BRI). Shortly after his 1983 death, the estate of Dennis Wilson sold his shares in the corporation back to the band to repay back loans.
 
Love, who tours with longtime member Bruce Johnston, holds the exclusive right to tour under the Beach Boys name, with all the BRI partners receiving a percentage from Love's multi-million dollar tour revenue. Brian Wilson has not performed with the band since 1996.
 
The Beach Boys featuring Mike Love and Bruce Johnston will kick off their next series of North American dates on July 17th in Santa Maria, California at the Santa Barbara County Fair at the Santa Maria Fairgrounds. The band will be on tour through November.
 
Brian Wilson will release his eighth solo studio album called Brian Wilson Reimagines Gershwin on August 17th.
 
Jardine's new album A Postcard From California features appearances by Beach Boys Brian Wilson, the late Carl Wilson, Mike Love, David Marks, and Bruce Johnston. Also contributing are his sons Matthew and Adam Jardine, along with Neil Young, Stephen Stills, David Crosby, America, Steve Miller, Glen Campbell, and the Red Hot Chili Pepper's bassist Flea.
 
Al Jardine with David Marks and the Endless Summer Band will perform tomorrow (July 13th) in Massapequa, New York at John Burns Park.

Doubt it's going to happen.

What a great idea though

Never say never - even if only 50% of it comes off, could be interesting.

And I like the idea of Dennis & Carl's sons representing them.

Something WILL happen.

Yeah, that was brought up in 2006 and I still think it would be cool

This info comes out just a day after Brian quotes This Whole World on Twitter...

Hmm...

50%? I vote for the waist-up, where the vocals reside!

Seems to me that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. I wouldn't be surprised if the lawsuits start flying again. Something tells me that the Al vs. Mike saga isn't over. But maybe I'm just a pessimistic grouch.  ;D

So we should expect Al and Brian to team up for a series of dates in the Fall of 2011 for the Pet Sounds 45th anniversary  based on past experience of reunion announcements 5 years ago.

I like that too, and I'm anti-reunion.  Actually, why not leave the old guys out of it entirely and let all the respective kids do a tribute show?  That would be fun and probably sound much better too.

I find it hard to conceive the words 'free' and 'Mike Love' in the same sentence but should it come off, good luck to them!

Surely though a free gig when you take into account locations, travel, hotels etc must run to $1m each. For 5 shows that would add up.

Two words - corporate sponsorship. Done it before, more than once.

For the Beach Boys?

U2 yes, Stones yes, but I don't know if the Beach Boys would give the return now demanded.

... and the Beach Boys, too. There are A LOT of big ole' U.S. conglomerates that would love to back the band -- for no other reason than they would be able to use their songs -- THOSE songs -- to promote their product/company. No one would turn that down. Those songs can, and have, and will, sell ANYTHING.

We're all highly-evolved fans -- so much so, that we know the pitfalls of what this thing REALLY entails. It's a tradeoff -- we get the experience and they get the money. But 50 years is major. No one's really done the 50th in Rock. If you think of it on a pure gross NASCAR-America-money-greed level, there are so many tie-ins that could earn BRI truly stupid money. Imagine a sponsorship with Coca-Cola??? For a band that began trading on nostalgia far before their first grey hairs, this is IT. This is what they've PRAYED for.

If handled correctly, with OUTSIDE PR help, and a real managerial team leading the way, this could be their biggest cash windfall yet.

50 Big Ones.

It's their's to fumble.  Cross your fingers.

Hey I love to be proved wrong as I said but take your example Coke. The advertising I have seen from them for ever has been aimed at the young, their core market. I love the Beach Boys but can't see the band members selling their product.

The music is nostalgia at the best and is probably over powering to any product it could tie in with.

Also 'with OUTSIDE PR help, and a real managerial team'? We'll see.

America is BIG. And the Beach Boys play big in the Midwest. Coke and products of that ilk have multiple campaigns (I was just using that as an example.) But I seriously doubt a U2-Coke spot would play as big in Nebraska as say Kenny Chesney with the BB's singing "Fun, Fun, Fun" would -- that's really my point. That's where something like this could go -- and how BIG it could go. "Saluting 50 years..." of anything signifies "quality" and "durability" even if WE know the truth about it beyond the spin.

Thank God there's Europe, which really gets the artistry of the band, because on these shores nobody really knows -- or cares -- that Dennis Wilson isn't behind the drums. But it's that dumbness, that "Hey, I was given a ticket by my neighbor for the Beach Boys show at the shed" that drives this thing. The band is well aware of that -- and that's the payday.

And despite what some people think and say, a 50th commemoration IS happening. Several plans ARE IN motion. How well they're executed remains to be seen, it's a ways off.  

According to the BBB, Bruce is taking his "I only want to be a spectator in the fifth row" stance again claiming that it's no reunion without Dennis and Carl which is weird cause he's had no problem playing with the band without Dennis for 27 years and Carl for 12..... However, push comes to shove, Bruce hasn't left Mike's footsteps in 30 years, I can't see him taking a stance now. I could be wrong.

Then you must have missed this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahe2r5fB5hU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahe2r5fB5hU)

"I'm pickin' up good vibrations/Sunkist orange soda taste sensations...."

Erk.

No, I said band members, not the music.
The list of companies wanting a 70 year old lead singer come 2011, plus a group close to it pushing their product would be limited.  Have any corporates been involved with Brian or Mikes Beach Boys tours in the last few years? I mean backing a complete tour.

They haven't because they don't NEED it. Brian and Mike's tours don't NEED corporate sponsorship, nor will they ever. But if there's a corporate tie-in, due to a project, or said series of free gigs -- there would be. The sponsorship could also be along the lines of funding by a network, too.

The appeal of having The Beach Boys paired with Ford, or Chevy with a slogan like "50 Years, still rollin'" or something along those lines is money in the bank. It's huge. It's the MUSIC that would sell the product. Do people like Bono and Jagger appear as  pitchmen in ads?   No. There's a quick live shot of the band playing and the music is heard.

What makes you think that Alan Jardine would be expected to hawk a product on TV as a term of corporate sponsorship?

I'm with Howie.

Heck, TNT funded that big all-star salute to BW awhile back. Who's to say PBS wouldn't cough up for some sort of special? And yeah, you could easily find non-broadcast sponsors too, as long as Brian and everyone was involved, and it was a relatively serious project (with some sort of Capitol tie-in product released round the same time, too).

But yes, management is crucial. And Brian and Mike and their folks would have to listen to that management to pull such a thing off (hell, if they had competent management, they would have put out a BW-helmed album of originals in 1996 and done Dylan's Time Out of Mind comeback one better, a year earlier).

I used the figure of $1m per gig and I think thats close for say a Central Park, Hyde Park, Wembley or whatever so for 5 gigs thats $5m. Now you mention the music selling the product. That means a payment would surely go to Capitol or whoever owns the rights. More expence.

Would Al or any member be pitching a Chevy or the like on TV? Of course not but their logo would be onstage or prominent during press conferences and the like. They would expect and demand more control than perhaps the band would be willing to hand over IMO.

Brians tours have never made money. He can cover that but could other members?

Brian's tours have never made money in the U.S., I believe.

Big difference.

How do the Beach Boys and penguins always end up together like this?

Bruce has a very dry SOH sometimes.  ;D

I'm never sure whether Bruce is joking or if he is in fact the real crazy one!

Hasn't Bruce been a 'Beach Boy' longer than he was a Beach Boy?

Hasn't Bruce been a Beach Boy as long as or longer than anyone save Mike?

I think this is the most important argument for a special event with big media and a very well planned, tasteful celebration. No band ever has been able to celebrate 50 years (!) in the business and feature so many original members. This is probably the last time the Beach Boys will have the opportunity for something large....

Lessee...

Mike - 1961-date [49 years]
Bruce - 1965-72, 1978-date [40 years in two spells]
Carl - 1961-81, 1982-98 [36 years in two spells]
Brian - 1961-96 [35 years]
Alan - 1961-62, 1963-98 [just over 35 years in two spells]
Dennis - 1961-83 [22 years]
David - 1962-63, 1997-99, 2008-09 [4 years in three spells]
Ricky - 1971-74 [3 years]
Blondie - 1971-73 [2 years]

Yup.  ;D

Excuse me while I roll on the floor for half an hour or so, crying with laughter.  ;D

That's why I called it an "argument for...". Of course we know that there will never be anything like that when it's the Beach Boys.... :-\

I thought so. Maybe a tad long on Bri's years of service? To the touring BBs anyway? Aww, but who's counting.

You forgot Stamos.






















Thank god.

I hope we can all forget Stamos.

I see no reason with today's technology why Carl and Dennis cannot be a part of this reunion. There is lots of concert footage that could be shown with them singing their songs, even as the live band plays alongside. God Only Knows, Darlin', Forever, You Are So Beautiful, and even Good Vibrations could be performed live musically, while footage is shown of Carl & Dennis performing those songs. Those two guys need to be honored just as much as the rest of the band.

I heard they do the same thing with Elvis - play old clips of him performing on stage and have a band perform with them.

Unlikely to happen - that would be a big problem with Brian.

Not "a" band, but his original TCB-band, that is the same guys that played on the original videos they used. Kinda like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-jACfzjPkk&feature=fvsr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-jACfzjPkk&feature=fvsr)

But somehow I kinda can't see this happening with the Beach Boys

What would be the problem? He used Carl's vocal for "Soul Searchin". How do you not include the heart & soul of the band?

He's clearly not over their deaths.  Didn't he eliminate Forever from his setlist because it was too painful for him to do?

Exactly, he stated as much in TWOTS podcast.

I'm sure that is the case. Didn't know about Forever being eliminated. He performed it at shows that I attended. For a guy that is so quoted about being spiritual and all, I find it difficult to understand why he can't handle death. It is the only thing that we are guaranteed in life (and taxes). Dennis has been gone for 27 years and Carl 12. I think it would be healthy if he finally came to terms with it. Oh well, I shouldn't be surprised by any of this. It is The Beach Boys for goodness-sakes.

Well, that's just theory, it's something totally different if you experience it. Especially considering Brian's mental situation which was not healthy when they were alive to begin with. Of course you're right when you say, that at some point one should get over it, but what when you still seem to hear voices in your head that seem to come from your relationship with your father ?

Corporate sponsorship aside, a TV special (or cable/HBO/Showtime special) on the 50th anniversary concerts, along with ticket sales and the inevitable DVD to follow, would probably pay for the concerts themselves.

So, because Brian has not come to grips with his brothers deaths, then we're all supposed to pretend that Dennis and Carl were never part of the Beach Boys when this reunion tour takes place next year? Hopefully then, they will at least get a mention during the shows. I never cease to be amazed!

I understand your chagrin about Carl and Dennis not being given the spotlight they deserve due to Brian's inability to cope with their deaths. They certainly merit much more than a passing mention at any Beach Boys reunion show, as they were integral parts of the group, shaping its sound and writing and singing many of the band's most important and best-loved songs.

That said... it's pretty easy for an observer to criticize Brian for his inability to face the deaths of his brothers. "What the hell is the guy's problem, he can't handle or come to terms with the deaths of his brothers?" It is a very glib, entitled way to look at the situation, although perhaps for the right reasons, as Carl and Dennis deserve a mention.

Truly, the death of a sibling is a momentous thing for someone to overcome. Factor in Brian's mental illness, as well as the bad times / isolated periods where he wasn't able to communicate with his brothers or where he probably feels like he let them down, and it's perfectly understandable that he doesn't want to publicly reckon with their losses. Sure, he did Soul Searchin' but that was in the studio.

To you and I, this is a band. To Brian, this was his family, and he probably never expected to outlive his entire immediate family, especially Carl. He needs to mourn/cope in his own way, even all these years later. He should not need to explain to anyone why he can't come to terms with their deaths in the most public arena imaginable (a literal arena, in fact!)

Brian has come a long way in his overall good health, mental or otherwise. He did this through getting the proper help. Not being able to deal with deaths after 27 and 12 years is not good and not healthy. Also, I see no difference between using Carl's vocal in the studio and using a video in a concert. Geez, when it comes to Brian, we all defend his behavior whether it is correct or not. After this post I am giving up talking about it. It is what it is, and my opinion means absolutely nothing. This is all typical crap that happens in Beach Boys World. Oy!

Nice post. Carl and Dennis died young. Plenty of fans find that hard to stomach, let alone Brian, the sole survivor of his own first immediate family.  We shouldn't assume to second guess anything and such a situation can't be the same for any two people.

So, just to be clear on this: When The Reunion tour comes to the east coast, in deference to Brian, I will rewrite the history of the band, my history, inside my brain, that Dennis & Carl were never Beach Boys. Got it!

Uuuh?

I thought you were done posting about this. Maybe you can be the one to give Brian lessons in "speed-coping" so by the time they get to the east coast, he can put aside his neuroses and publicly cope with his brothers' deaths on stage for one very entitled fan.

Have you followed what we are talking about? I suggested that video be used for Carl & Dennis segments in the show. AGD said Brian would have issues with that, because he can't deal with the deaths of Dennis & Carl. And so, the rest has been about Brian, and handling death. This Reunion Tour is about the band, not just Brian. Dennis and Carl were very important members and should be honored at those shows accordingly. For me, a passing mention of them is just not gonna cut it.  They need to do a little video tribute to each. If Brian has issues looking at video or hearing their voices, he needs to buck up and face the fact that they are deceased. We are into decades now. Dennis close to 3, and Carl surpassing one. We all have to deal with death in our families. It is the way of life itself. I live with grief, we all do, but we learn to deal with it and we go on living our lives. That is the healthy way to go and live. For me, I love seeing pictures and home movies. They show me how happy my life has been by having them all as a part of my life experience. My last post is in reference to how most here think Brian's feelings are the only important ones to consider. If he hasn't come to terms with their deaths, then we as fans should just see things through his eyes. This reunion will be as much for the fans as it is for the band members. As a fan of "The Beach Boys", I want Dennis & Carl represented honorably during these shows.

If you think 3 decades and one decade is not sufficient time, then it will be more than "speed-coping".

Edit: A question mark was used in response to my post. I'm not ignorant, I will answer to clarify.

Wasn't Brian's choice to have "Soul Searchin'" on that album. Well-known, well publicised fact.

Ah, I see you're one of the "pull yourself together and stop snivelling" brigade. I've had my share (and my fill) of them and I'm sure Brian has too. My father died fifteen years ago, and it's still hard for me to look at photos of him. There are whole areas of my life I don't like being reminded of, yet according to the "pull-yourself-together" fraternity, I should confront the very things that sent me screaming into the woods in the first place. Considerate.


Bully for you. However, your name isn't Brian Douglas Wilson. We may all be the same basic shape, but we're all wired differently.

Brian might manage one gig with such a video sequence... five would be pushing it. A question - why do you think he doesn't do "Forever" live any more ?

Andrew, I understand all of what your saying. I really do. No wonder Brian has been so debilitated for most of his adult life. So, in your opinion how does the band go about honoring Dennis and Carl? You can't pretend they didn't exist, can you? There has be some happy medium to deal with this issue, isn't there? It's really not fair to the memories of both, because Brian hasn't yet come to grips with it all, is it? I know Brian is an important piece in this reunion tour, but come on, now! This reunion tour can't be just all about Brian, can it?

Dr. Beach Boy, I owe you an apology. I just checked with the NACS (North American Coping Society) and apparently you are right - the amount of time since Carl and Dennis have died has been way too long for Brian not to be able to publicly cope with it. NACS personnel are on their way to Brian's house right now to force him to cope with his brothers' deaths after all this time, in public and in concert.

I attached a copy of your wonderful suggestion to look though scrapbooks. Undoubtedly this will be the balm that allows Brian, after all this time, to cope with his brothers' deaths - all so you can get the video montage you so desperately crave.

Scrapbooks, bootstraps and simple minds to the rescue! Now we will all be able to see a mawkish showbiz hollywood 'tribute' to Carl and Dennis, and Brian can enjoy having his brothers' memories exploited for a buck!

You are a cocky f**ker, aren't you? So, you will go see The Beach Boys 50th Reunion Tour and you will happy that Dennis' and Carl's contributions go unsaid, because of Brian? So sad!

Maybe it's not so prevalent now, but certainly up until say 2004, one refrain rang regularly throughout Brian's solo career:

"Well, I didn't want to do it, but my wife and managers talked me into it".

I dunno - maybe he'll do it just out of respect for his brothers (of course, we're assuming there will be any such 'tribute' - I rather doubt it). It's Brian Wilson we're talking about here. Logic seldom applies.

No, I won't be happy if Dennis and Carl's contributions go "unsaid." However, the fact that they were Brian's brothers seems to me to be more important than the fact that I am a Beach Boys fan. In fact, I would say that it gives Brian carte blanche to do whatever he is most comfortable with.

Also, to look at it pragmatically, if the choice is a full reunion with Brian at all versus a Beach Boys reunion without Brian because they are going to show a tribute to Dennis and Carl.. I would choose a reunion with Brian. After all, life is for the living!

It seems to me that you are the cocky one, presuming that Brian could be forced to publicly reckon and cope with the deaths of his brothers, when as AGD pointed out, he had to drop "Forever" from his setlist because he couldn't deal with the emotions it brought up.

Perhaps remembering the conservatorship struggle, which severely limited his contact with Carl for many years towards the end of Carl's life, and the fact that Dennis died so young whilst Brian was dealing with his own substance abuse problems, can help you see things from what we are assuming to be Brian's point of view.

However, maybe Brian will have no problem with a tribute to Carl and Dennis, in which case this discussion is moot. Either way, we've derailed this thread enough, and you said you were done with this discussion about 4 posts ago.

Indeed! We are writing all these posts, assuming that they would be honored, but like you say, with Brian included, there could be nothing at all. Just to clear up things up a bit; my posts were only meant to include Dennis and Carl out of respect, nothing more. Not in the way that b00t claims that I am. They both played very important roles within the band, and still do. I mean, history follows you wherever you go.

Doctor Beach Boy, I was not implying any sort of nefarious motive on your part. I understand that you want Dennis and Carl to be honored. They should be honored. I was merely trying to show you (unsuccessfully, it seems) that honoring the dead, in this case, must necessarily take a back seat to the mental health of the living.

It would be nice if 10, 15, 20, 30 years were the 'mandatory coping period' for death, but the reality is that we all deal with these things in our own ways. Respecting Brian's method of coping is important if we want him to be mentally healthy, and realistically, if we want him to show up to these reunion concerts.

I can absolutely sympathize with Brian's feelings on Dennis and Carl...they were his brothers, the only two other people on earth who could really understand what he had to go through as a child, and two of the people who helped make his musical dreams a reality.  Like anyone else who has had family estrangements, I would imagine Brian immensely regrets the years that he missed out on with both of them, for all the reasons that we are all familiar with.  That is something that you really don't ever get over, not to mention the emotions that go along with losing people you love in the first place.    

Despite his feelings, there is always the possibility that if a proper reunion came to fruition, Brian's respect for his brothers and their contributions to the band would overshadow the negative/sad emotions that he obviously still feels.  As hard as it would probably be for him, I think Brian would want his brothers to be properly remembered and recognized at whatever reunion events may occur.  There is a big difference, in my mind, between Brian singing "Forever" on stage at one of his concerts and participating in an event honoring the 50-years that the band that you started with your brothers and cousin has been in existence.

We did not derail anything. What I/we posted about was in regard to the tour. This is a discussion group. As long as you respond to my posts, I will answer. You did your part in keeping it ongoing. (Notice, no question mark) ;-)

Very well said, thank you.

Yeah Brian you selfish h**g**ff, get over your brothers' deaths or find another job.

Really, I'd like to nominate Dr Beach Boy for the 2010 Caring Fan Award.

Really, I'd be happy for a re-union to take place without photos of Carl and Dennis on the wall. I'm suree the band – yes, even the Beach Boys – can pay tribute to the guys in their own way that's respectful and doesn't cause any upset.

Again, these are The Beach Boys we are dealing with here. I just keep forgetting that one important detail. Let them do whatever they do. I love them to death, but God, how they so frustrate me. I hope all is cool between us? I didn't want this get as argumentative as it did, and so my sincere apologies if I offended you, b00ts.

You have to be fu*king kidding me, right? Great! You are absolutely correct. No Dennis, No Carl at the reunion. There, I said it!

No offense taken! I put a fine point on it, not meant to be personal at all, just meant to express my point very accurately. As you said, this is a discussion board, I just felt bad that you and I were taking up so much of the thread. Note that I said "You and I," not just you.

Just my unwanted two cents, I'm not so sure Brian wouldn't allow a Carl and Dennis bit in the show, he talks about them on "Lucky old Sun" and even showed pictures of them behind him in concert, didn't he? 

Also, like Andrew said, everybody copes different.  My father died 9 years ago, I have a painting hanging in my living room of him and me and my brother done when we were 5 years old, everytime I walk by it I don't look at it, and it's hanging on the wall out in the open!  I have a great life, I have good relationships and have 'moved on' so to say, but that doesn't mean that I want to go looking at pictures and home videos.  If Brian feels similarly, I can certainly relate.  I know many, many people who go on with their life after somebody dies and don't like bringing it up, because ultimately what's the point?  They're gone! 

I think the post far above where someone said we shouldn't expect Brian to confront emotional issues in the middle of a football stadium was exactly on point. 

I think you missed this bit:

Who said that there won't be any kind of tribute? The question in the first place was if there would be a video of them and that probably won't happen. Doesn't mean they won't be mentioned. Take it easy....

You are absolutely right! And I'm chillin' as I post this. At this point in the conversation, I really don't care what they do. They are The Beach Boys and they will do what they do. Maybe an Eagles concert would do me good too. ;-)

Ron, this was my main point. If Brian can't cope with his brothers' deaths in private at this point so many years later, expecting him to do so publicly is just not realistic. I also agree about coping with peoples' deaths - the deaths of several people close to me have rendered it almost impossible for me to look at photos of them - it is just too sad.

If it comes down to the dead getting their due versus the living being comfortable and able to put on a good show, then we have to respect Brian's wishes, if indeed he does not feel comfortable.


Dr. Beach Boy, I didn't take anything in this thread personally... until now. Eagles concert??? You've made a powerless enemy today, my friend!

Hey, the Eagles are not exactly my cup of tea either, but they did have a few good tunes; "Take It Easy" being one of them and "Already Gone" for another. I saw them once, in 1975 with Linda Ronstadt. Between the two, a pretty good show overall.

On the subject of Brian not coping with Dennis and Carls deaths, I distinctly remember that on the That Lucky Old Sun tour which I saw in Birmingham, England in 2007, pictures of Dennis and Carl were projected onto a backdrop whilst Brian and band were performing Southern California and singing the lines 'I had this dream, Singing with my brothers, In harmony, supporting each other'......