Title: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: The Song Of The Grange on June 19, 2010, 12:00:19 PM A response to my last post by buddhahat (about his Smile obsession getting a bit out of control) made we want to hear other fan's tales of Smile obsession, and any other BBs related obsessions. I am currently writing an extended essay on Smile (and why I have been so fixated on it for so many years), and it dawned on me that it would be really great to add in some testimonials. So if anyone would like to share their story, please do share it. And if you don't want me to use it in my essay, that is cool, but it would still be fun to hear your tale.
This is what buddhahat said (which I found very entertaining): "I remember a time when I actually began to get quite concerned that I was too obsessed with Smile, to the point that it was all I would listen to for months on end, just again, and again, and again. It used to drive my partner insane, and even now I find myself nervously switching the stereo off if she comes in the room and I'm listening to Smile songs - how sad is that!? For what it's worth, it did pass, although I still get back into it pretty intensely every now and then!" As for me: 1 Once last year I went for 3 months straight listening to nothing but Smile sessions 8 hours a day, 5 days a week at my job. After awhile I started lying to co-workers when they asked me what I was listening too, because they all started to think I was a little crazy! 2 I also once made a statistical chart calculating the probability of Smile track order, starting with "Prayer" which got a 100% opening track rating (because Brian said so). I calculated the probabilities of each title in each potential playing order slot using this convoluted points system I invented, which was based on evidence from things like interviews, the 2004 Smile, and Smiley Smile. 3 I got the Beach Boys banned from being played on the stereo at work and my wife banned them from play on our living room stereo, in both cases because I "over played" Pet Sounds and Smile tracks (is if that was actually possible!). 4 I made an iTunes play list with a track given to every SECTION of every song, so I could listen to every possible combination. For example, the Iron Horse section of Cabinessence got its own track twice, Grand Coulee Dam got one track etc etc. I thought that once I found the perfect playing order the heavens would open up and I would know the meaning of the universe--or something like that. 5 For a highschool art class back in 1994 I drew a recreation of the Smile cover art. I guess that isn't so weird. Anyway, I'd love to hear anyone else's stories of Beach Boys and Smile obsessions. I figure if you are a big enough fan to read this great message board, you may have had a similar experience. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: runnersdialzero on June 19, 2010, 02:36:21 PM The "listening to Smile and almost exclusively Smile over and over for months on end" happened to me, too. Sessions (no matter how tedious some of them are - I loved every minute of it), completed tracks, BWPS, anything - throw Smiley Smile in there, too. If it wasn't listening to it, it was reading about it, watching videos about it, talking about it online with other people, etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: hypehat on June 19, 2010, 03:39:21 PM 5 For a highschool art class back in 1994 I drew a recreation of the Smile cover art. I guess that isn't so weird. Anyway, I'd love to hear anyone else's stories of Beach Boys and Smile obsessions. I figure if you are a big enough fan to read this great message board, you may have had a similar experience. Winner ;D Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: The Shift on June 19, 2010, 04:34:25 PM I guess plenty of us have been through the "endless listening" phase. I listened to little else but SMiLE for a few years and would buy repeat copies of various boots to tide me over until the next new underground release.
Even now I occasionally have the music playing in my head, on the skull stereo, and suddenly realise that two tracks will segue together seamlessly; I have to make a written note, even if I'm driving, or I get my partner to do it (though she doesn't appreciate that "it can't wait 'til later", cos by then I'll have forgotten, and the realisation will be lost forever). I have made many of these notes and, collectively, they will sole the mystery of the piecing together of Smile. Without doubt. 'Xcept I can't find any of them. In recent years my musical tastes have expanded way, way beyond SMiLE - I listened to POB/Bambu for many months, and TLOS, for example. I have long indulgences in Neil Young, John Martyn, the Wombles, and many others, but it always comes back to SMiLE. SMiLE became a way of life in 2004, when I attended all the first six RFH gigs and four others on that tour. Shortly after I left the UK to hike across the USA for six months (which meant I missed the second UK tour), and the SMiLE music played on my skull stereo for long periods during that hike. And joy of joys, on the very day I reached Canada, September 28, 2004, Brian Wilson released his new interpretation of SMiLE. Incidentally the first CD I ever owned was a very early SMiLE boot CD. I had it for a few months before I saved enough to buy a CD player to actually listen to it. Funnily enough when I reached Canada in 2004 and bought the SMiLE CD (I bought five copies, for family and friends), I had to go buy another CD player to listen to it, as my own were all in storage in the UK. Sorry I'm rambling - just finished a long project and letting off some steam. But while we're on the SMiLE obsession theme, has anyone ever asked their partner to dress like the lady looking out of the SMiLE shop window in the Frank Holmes drawing? Just wondered... Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Don_Zabu on June 19, 2010, 04:52:11 PM How obsessed am I over Smile? I made a YouTube channel for it (http://www.youtube.com/user/SMiLEReconstruction).
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Mahalo on June 19, 2010, 09:05:10 PM I "over played" Pet Sounds and Smile tracks (is if that was actually possible!). Amen, preach on...just the other day at work I was playing Surf's Up at work on my car keys, (you know the keys part), and when asked what I was doing my co- workers all rolled their eyes at my response because they know how much I love the BB's. I got a really bad vibe from them actually. When I tried to explain I realized it would be futile to express how great their music is to these people... I really listen to nothing else on a regular basis...I have my own stories to tell, but I can't really top yours, I don't think, except I've also listened for the amount of time listening to their music... Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Dunderhead on June 19, 2010, 09:29:28 PM I don't know if Smile has ever ruined anyone's life. You always hear about people who forget to feed their kids because they were playing WoW, so I wonder if anyone has ever lost their job or wife because of Beach Boys obsession.
The worst moment for me was when I upset a girl I was seeing when I told her I'd save Brian Wilson's life before hers. She got pretty offended, but eventually laughed it off. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Jason on June 19, 2010, 09:58:15 PM Great thread, although I don't have much to add except for one thing.
I have mild OCD (obsessive/compulsive disorder), and, naturally, being a Beach Boys fan, beyond the official releases, everything out there that can be heard is spread out over any number of bootlegs, with the same stuff in many cases being spread out over ten different bootlegs, each with different sound quality. In 2002 I began collecting bootlegs. Whatever I could find, I grabbed. As my collection increased I wanted to put the studio material in a cohesive, listenable order and properly archive the hundreds of live tapes, interviews, and all manner of curiosities that I have found. This has been an ongoing process, and it's something that might very well never be finished, if not for my relentless amount of tinkering, then for the fact that some people have stuff that they don't see any value in circulating, which, to me anyway, is a shame. Anything that's documented, in any form, is of at least historical interest, if not personal enjoyment. This project has been a true labor of love for the seven years I've worked on it. I've been asked why I haven't told more folks, including many of our Honored Guests, about the project, and there are several reasons. 1. The people in high places would find it inconsequential. They have the studio-quality reels to work from. I'm a fan working with stuff that's been dubbed from any number of sources any number of times. I don't even think they'd be interested in picking my brain for pointers. 2. The fans by and large wouldn't be interested in a good 70% of it; that 70% being the hours and hours of live tapes, interview clips, the Flames material from 1963-68 before they signed with Brother, the eight million or so tracks Bruce guested on, Michael's solo stuff, Blondie's solo stuff. It's something I've been happy to just sit back with sometimes and tinker with for all these years. I suppose I want to mostly keep it to myself. I know it's not MY music but the project by all means is my brain child. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 20, 2010, 02:16:51 AM BB-ness in general:
1 - http://www.esquarterly.com/bellagio/ (http://www.esquarterly.com/bellagio/) (I should stop here, shouldn't I ? But no...)... 2 - several trips to LA expressly to meet/interview people, ranging from the hugely productive (1985) to those which were a waste of time & money (people changed their minds)... 3 - Going to see Almost Summer, not once but twice (firstly to make notes, secondly wired for sound)... 4 - using a clippings agency to start my BB articles collection back in 1975. The postman didn't like me very much for a long time. Nor did my bank manager... 5 - having standing Google alerts... 6 - going into my local record store and ordering a Julio Iglesias single. When the staff had done crying with laughter, one told me I had to do something about this BB obsession... Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 20, 2010, 02:18:01 AM I don't know if Smile has ever ruined anyone's life. There's a man at the door called Brian Wilson would like a word with you... ;D Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 20, 2010, 02:23:34 AM 2 I also once made a statistical chart calculating the probability of Smile track order, starting with "Prayer" which got a 100% opening track rating (because Brian said so). I calculated the probabilities of each title in each potential playing order slot using this convoluted points system I invented, which was based on evidence from things like interviews, the 2004 Smile, and Smiley Smile. Is it in any way scary that I want to see, really, really want to see this chart ? Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: matt-zeus on June 20, 2010, 04:15:30 AM 3 - Going to see Almost Summer, not once but twice (firstly to make notes, secondly wired for sound)... Is that worth seeing?! Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 20, 2010, 04:20:53 AM Nope. Put it this way... when was the last time you saw it for sale on video or DVD ? ;D
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: metal flake paint on June 20, 2010, 06:03:21 AM Only today I ordered speech to text software which I will primarily use to dictate my entire Beach Boys' clippings collection onto my hard drive for easy reference.
Here is some of my obsessive behaviour through the years: Photocopying a page from a lettering book containing letters in Old English font, then cutting and pasting them onto a piece of backing to form the word CABINESSENCE. I proudly displayed this on my bedroom wall for many years much to my parents and friends bewilderment. As I look through said book, I did the same with the Peoria font to spell out Heroes and Villains which I then transferred onto a white t-shirt which I usually wore at record fairs. Covering the dashboard of my first car with various Beach Boys clippings/photos (the more obscure, the better). Most of my passengers had the same “Eh?” response. Carrying around and constantly swigging from a plastic bottle of apple cider, much like Mike did in the mid-60’s, with disastrous consequences halfway through a cinema screening of “A Clockwork Orange”. I also had a fascination with a tobacco pipe which I constantly puffed at (again a reference to Mike). When I purchased my first laptop, I changed the default sound scheme for snippets of Beach Boys’ music. When I received my first Smile cassette in 1988 I was mesmerised for months, playing it in the car, at home or on my Walkman. Despite the tapes’ lo-fi quality, the music always shone through. I especially enjoyed listening to Smile alone at night, parked by the ocean, watching the waves crash upon the shore. None of my friends understood my fascination and couldn’t reconcile this music with The Beach Boys; they thought it was some kind of a put-on. But at that stage, no other music or group mattered to me. I knew I was going to be a fan for life. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Joshilyn Hoisington on June 20, 2010, 07:37:00 AM I quit my job and moved to LA, for several reasons but mostly because it is Beach Boys land. I seemed obsessed enough that Alan Boyd (who might just win the obsession award... :-D.) let me work with him for a little while on Beach Boys related projects. Whenever passing 6000 Sunset, what used to be Western Recorders, I have a small paroxysm. Likewise, I have driven by, intentionally, most of the old houses of the musicians that played on Beach Boys records. Including Chuck Britz' which involved some very steep hills... My one and only iPod is loaded with 6 straight days of Beach Boys--and nothing else, though I suspect my obsession is less impressive on that level than some others'.
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear th Post by: buddhahat on June 20, 2010, 02:28:48 PM 2 I also once made a statistical chart calculating the probability of Smile track order, starting with "Prayer" which got a 100% opening track rating (because Brian said so). I calculated the probabilities of each title in each potential playing order slot using this convoluted points system I invented, which was based on evidence from things like interviews, the 2004 Smile, and Smiley Smile. Is it in any way scary that I want to see, really, really want to see this chart ? Ditto!! Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: A Million Units In Jan! on June 20, 2010, 04:07:43 PM When I first got into SMiLE, there was just something about it, something that I can't figure out even to this day. It's just....everything IMO is perfect about it. Maybe the way the songs flow, maybe because it was a guy at the absolute peak of his brilliance and he was laying down tracks that really sounded like nothing that had been done before. Whatever the case, it blew me away, and I became obsessed. As in, that's all I would listen to. At home, in the car, over and over, never getting sick of it. I had my girlfriend (wife now) keep a copy in her car. I can remember getting LLVS! in the mail, and reading it to her in the car like it was a novel. I would look at when movies were made, or other albums were made, or books were written, and if they were written in 1966 I would find out when exactly, and compare it to what was going on at that time; 'Oh, this movie was released in October 1966. Brian was working on Do You Like Worms then'. It was nuts, I admit. I would hear snippets of music in video games, and think 'If this tune was done by the Wrecking Crew, it would fit quite nicely on SMiLE'.
And I think a big part of the excitement abut it was the difficulty in finding out anything more about the album than the little that was already known. It wasn't like now where you can go to somebody's site and download 10 different SMiLE mixes in mp3. It was difficult to really get anything new on the subject. And the SMiLE shop went up, and that really fanned the flames, with 'insiders' posting cryptic posts, and alluding to clips of music that still haven't been heard to this day. After a few years, and many more bits that have come out and of course BWPS, the obsession sort of waned. I still consider it the greatest music I've ever heard-the original stuff, that is. The original's just have this certain sound that you can't put your finger on. Maybe it's just the sound that Columbia and Western and Goldstar studios had. Or maybe because you close your eyes and think of Prime Time Brian Wilson on a creative roll, with a definitive idea of what he wanted and where he was going. Or the sounds of '60s era instruments being played by the coolest cats in town. Whatever the case, SMiLE is, was, and always will be THE sound to my ears. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Mahalo on June 20, 2010, 06:26:45 PM I'm feeling a lot of love in this forum...like an AA meeting for Beach Boys fanatics.
Is it my own bias or is their music so much superior to others in so many ways? Be truthful to me...I know when they suck- they REALLY suck, but when they are on- they are the BEST. I just can't get enough of it. P.S.... Love You rules. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Myk Luhv on June 20, 2010, 08:03:28 PM Love You is second only to Pet Sounds as far as Beach Boys albums is concerned.
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Mr. Cohen on June 20, 2010, 08:21:37 PM Quote Is it my own bias or is their music so much superior to others in so many ways? I've always thought that. As far as a pop/rock outfit goes, they can't be beat. To combine such sophisticated chords, with such intricate harmonies (combining things that would seem dissonant at first glance with consonant elements to create ethereal harmonies) on top, and to make the melodies so catchy at the same time is unbelievable. People take Brian for granted, I think. When you really look at songs that are considered more throwaway efforts, like "Funky Pretty", parts of it seem like a miracle. In a sense, the piano playing is almost rubato at parts, and while the chord changes aren't anything extraordinary, to combine those strange synth lines (which are playing a counter-melody, which the bass plays along with at points in the song without detracting from the main vocal melody) with all of those different vocal melodies in the outro at the end and make it sound good and catchy takes inspired genius. You have complex polyphony and harmony at the same time in that song, and in many other Brian songs, and yet it still comes across as an easily approachable pop song. That's mastery.The Beatles never even got that sophisticated (though they're still a great band, of course - :D), and this is just a Brian 'throwaway' we're talking about. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Dove Nested Towers on June 21, 2010, 12:43:48 AM My obsession was very, very deep indeed. The Smile music sustained me through many difficult years. There is a mysterious, indefinable quality to it that is obviously quite unique. I identify with it completely. I'll never forget the 1st time I heard each "new" piece of music (look forward faithfully amd idealistically to hearing more someday when all sources and collections are plumbed for a possible box set). It's like a potent, exhilarating drug, pure creativity and originality distilled into one ambitious and ultimately evocative musical suite. I dream often about hearing extremely complex new sections and songs which are just beyond reach somehow, either don't hear the whole thing, it's not booted (or the boot is unavailable) nor are copies owned except to the ultimate insiders (who can't or won't share it) hear it faintly from a distance, etc. Once dreamed that I was at Brian's house and he allowed me to make a copy of his personal unreleased Smile material. I was shaking with excitement as it was dubbing (from and onto cassette) and woke up crestfallen that it had only been a dream. I'm quite sure you all know what I'm talking about. :) :'(
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Andrew G. Doe on June 21, 2010, 02:14:08 AM I dream often about hearing extremely complex new sections and songs which are just beyond reach somehow, either don't hear the whole thing, it's not booted (or the boot is unavailable) Not now, but yeah, back in the day, I'd hear whole new songs in my dreams, really good ones, any period.. but when I woke up, the recollection would be gone within seconds. :angry :angry :angry But damn, they were good. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: rasmus skotte on June 21, 2010, 03:14:56 AM I've made a whole online essay about my SMiLE obsession where I admit to being a "Hawthorne Bunthorne" which I guess most of us who are coming clean here can qualify as (a SMilE bunthorne must be like a pain in the backside, right?):
http://www.earcandymag.com/radiantraydiodish.htm I mean plucking away like for that for 10 years and getting little more than the cold shoulder treatment from fellow fans, you'd have to be fanatic! Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: The Shift on June 21, 2010, 03:43:41 AM I dream often about hearing extremely complex new sections and songs which are just beyond reach somehow, either don't hear the whole thing, it's not booted (or the boot is unavailable) Not now, but yeah, back in the day, I'd hear whole new songs in my dreams, really good ones, any period.. but when I woke up, the recollection would be gone within seconds. :angry :angry :angry But damn, they were good. I've had dreams where I've gone into a secondhand music store (the kind that measure your feet) and found racks and racks of unreleased BBs albums, and released albums I didn't know existed. Money hasn't been an object and I've laden my arms with goodies (I mean CDs, not Tim Brooke-Taylor, Graeme Garden and Bill Oddie) and gone to the counter and ... woken up... Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear th Post by: The Song Of The Grange on June 21, 2010, 08:19:09 AM 2 I also once made a statistical chart calculating the probability of Smile track order, starting with "Prayer" which got a 100% opening track rating (because Brian said so). I calculated the probabilities of each title in each potential playing order slot using this convoluted points system I invented, which was based on evidence from things like interviews, the 2004 Smile, and Smiley Smile. Is it in any way scary that I want to see, really, really want to see this chart ? Ditto!! The playing order chart is an Excel spread sheet. If it wasn't for that I would post it. A work of complete madness. Point system was as follows: (I am not sure now how I decided to weigh the points the way I did.) First hand evidence: 10 points Circumstantial evidence in 1966: 3 points (interviews etc) Smiley Smile playing order: 3 points BWPS 2004: 3 points (I really went back and forth on how many points to award this evidence) Proximity of sessions to other tracks: 2 points Music/lyrical link: 2 points Number of sessions: 1 point General thematic link: 1 point. For each song or fragment I added up the total points and then divided it by the number possible and got a percentage. Our Prayer was automatically given a 100% opening track rating. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Mr. Cohen on June 21, 2010, 10:10:31 AM I have Excel and I would know how to make it presentable for the Internet. Send it to me!
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear th Post by: buddhahat on June 21, 2010, 03:28:04 PM 2 I also once made a statistical chart calculating the probability of Smile track order, starting with "Prayer" which got a 100% opening track rating (because Brian said so). I calculated the probabilities of each title in each potential playing order slot using this convoluted points system I invented, which was based on evidence from things like interviews, the 2004 Smile, and Smiley Smile. Is it in any way scary that I want to see, really, really want to see this chart ? Ditto!! The playing order chart is an Excel spread sheet. If it wasn't for that I would post it. A work of complete madness. Point system was as follows: (I am not sure now how I decided to weigh the points the way I did.) First hand evidence: 10 points Circumstantial evidence in 1966: 3 points (interviews etc) Smiley Smile playing order: 3 points BWPS 2004: 3 points (I really went back and forth on how many points to award this evidence) Proximity of sessions to other tracks: 2 points Music/lyrical link: 2 points Number of sessions: 1 point General thematic link: 1 point. For each song or fragment I added up the total points and then divided it by the number possible and got a percentage. Our Prayer was automatically given a 100% opening track rating. Ha ha this is great! I had a similar train of thought where I convinced myself that there were some almost certainties with the potential 67 tracklisting, although your point system takes some beating! FWIW I am convinced that GV was to follow Our Prayer (what points did you award to tracks with compatible keys, as this is surely a signpost to feasible sequences?!), therefore placing OP/GV as most likely candidates to open side 1, thus shunting H&V to kick off side 2, and Surf's Up of course being the closer to the whole thing. In my (delusional) mind these are stone cold facts!! That's over 25% of the album sequenced right there!!! Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: The Song Of The Grange on June 21, 2010, 04:52:25 PM My obsession was very, very deep indeed. The Smile music sustained me through many difficult years. There is a mysterious, indefinable quality to it that is obviously quite unique. I identify with it completely. I'll never forget the 1st time I heard each "new" piece of music (look forward faithfully amd idealistically to hearing more someday when all sources and collections are plumbed for a possible box set). It's like a potent, exhilarating drug, pure creativity and originality distilled into one ambitious and ultimately evocative musical suite. I dream often about hearing extremely complex new sections and songs which are just beyond reach somehow, either don't hear the whole thing, it's not booted (or the boot is unavailable) nor are copies owned except to the ultimate insiders (who can't or won't share it) hear it faintly from a distance, etc. Once dreamed that I was at Brian's house and he allowed me to make a copy of his personal unreleased Smile material. I was shaking with excitement as it was dubbing (from and onto cassette) and woke up crestfallen that it had only been a dream. I'm quite sure you all know what I'm talking about. :) :'( I've pretty much had the same dream. Maybe that is why I liked the BW part of Lewis Shiner's novel Glimpses so much. I've read that chapter many times. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear th Post by: The Song Of The Grange on June 21, 2010, 05:12:27 PM 2 I also once made a statistical chart calculating the probability of Smile track order, starting with "Prayer" which got a 100% opening track rating (because Brian said so). I calculated the probabilities of each title in each potential playing order slot using this convoluted points system I invented, which was based on evidence from things like interviews, the 2004 Smile, and Smiley Smile. Is it in any way scary that I want to see, really, really want to see this chart ? Ditto!! The playing order chart is an Excel spread sheet. If it wasn't for that I would post it. A work of complete madness. Point system was as follows: (I am not sure now how I decided to weigh the points the way I did.) First hand evidence: 10 points Circumstantial evidence in 1966: 3 points (interviews etc) Smiley Smile playing order: 3 points BWPS 2004: 3 points (I really went back and forth on how many points to award this evidence) Proximity of sessions to other tracks: 2 points Music/lyrical link: 2 points Number of sessions: 1 point General thematic link: 1 point. For each song or fragment I added up the total points and then divided it by the number possible and got a percentage. Our Prayer was automatically given a 100% opening track rating. Ha ha this is great! I had a similar train of thought where I convinced myself that there were some almost certainties with the potential 67 tracklisting, although your point system takes some beating! FWIW I am convinced that GV was to follow Our Prayer (what points did you award to tracks with compatible keys, as this is surely a signpost to feasible sequences?!), therefore placing OP/GV as most likely candidates to open side 1, thus shunting H&V to kick off side 2, and Surf's Up of course being the closer to the whole thing. In my (delusional) mind these are stone cold facts!! That's over 25% of the album sequenced right there!!! Yeah, I have pretty much shot my tracklist probability chart full of holes. I put it together before I had even thought of comparing compatible keys--which I did to later. And now days I think my point system was pretty much totally flawed. I too have thought that the Prayer into GV pairing works well. You are right, with a little logic you can get a decent sketch of what the album would have looked like. Big songs at the corners--1st and last on both sides, then fill one side with Americana and one side with Element and you are getting close I think. To me the whole childhood section from 2004 actually folds into the Americana section. After all, Surf's Up has just as much to do with manifest destiny as H&V--it is the blending of the three threads (Americana, child is father of man, and natural elements). With it as the closer everything else comes together like pulling up a ship in a bottle. See--here I go again. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear th Post by: buddhahat on June 21, 2010, 11:28:47 PM Great points, Song of The Grange.
I think the most interesting question to me at the moment is why Smile hooks people in so deeply. I think there is something endlessly compelling about unfinished or incomplete works of art - Would anyone still be aware of The Venus De Milo if she wasn't missing both arms?! I very much doubt it! I think what is so compelling about Smile is the blanks which we fill in ourselves. There is a sense that some immense truth will be revealed once the pieces have been arranged, or some ultimate beauty. At the risk of sounding pretentious, for me there is a sense that you could maybe even find God in there somewhere!! Of course what we're reaching blindly for, is something within ourselves I think, and not something accessible had the album been completed in 67. It's like reaching into your subconscious and trying to order it and therefore gain a greater understanding of yourself. It is the potential of these puzzle pieces that is so bewitching. I think if we were all granted our wish and given a glimpse of Smile had Brian finished it in 67, I suspect most of us would have a slight sense of disappointment that It didn't measure up to the Smile in our minds. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: mtaber on June 22, 2010, 04:19:08 PM "Personally I tend to listen to 'Be My Baby' on vinyl over and over, to the point where the 45 becomes opaque... I also repeatedly listened to 'Sail Away' while in Holland many years ago... but after reading the stories from you guys, I don't feel too weird about it any more... I gotta go now, got 'Shortnin' Bread' stuck in my head..."
- Anonymous Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear th Post by: rab2591 on June 22, 2010, 06:12:25 PM I guess I am not obsessed with SMiLE as much as the Beach Boys period.
A year ago I bought Pet Sounds. I forgot about it for half a year. 6 months ago I listened to it for the first time in its entirety. Since then, I have bought mostly every studio album the Beach Boys made (save the garbage 80s albums). I have bought most of Brian Wilson's solo albums. LOVE Pacific Ocean Blue. I have bought copies of Pet Sounds for friends/family. I have burnt copies and have given them to complete strangers. I bought and devoured the Pet Sounds Sessions Boxset. I have got my hands on many SMiLE bootlegs and listened the crap out of them. I have made my own mixes on garageband. I have uploaded many of my own Pet Sounds mixes on youtube. I am about to invest in a turntable just to listen to Pet Sounds on vinyl (ok, I also want it to listen to 'Rubber Soul' 'Sgt Pepper' 'Summer Days' yada yada, in vinyl). I have bought, read, and re-read books/bios on the Beach Boys, SMiLE, and Brian Wilson. I still listen to Pet Sounds at least 3 times a week. If I am depressed I will listen to it many times in one day. If I am happy I will listen to it many times a day. I have started a band with a great Beach Boys influence (no one else in this band likes the Beach Boys). In fact, most of my co-workers/friends are sick of me talking about the Beach Boys. I get jabs about my obsession with the musical genius of Brian Wilson. All of this in the last 6 months. I don't think anyone I know has any idea of how amazing the Beach Boys really are. I don't think it is obsession on my part, I just love good music. I was born in the 80s and had to suffer through the bad music of the 90s and 00s. My first cassette tape was a greatest hits 'Beach Boys' tape...if I had not have gotten that tape I would have never have bought Pet Sound and the last 6 months of my life would have been completely different. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Mahalo on June 22, 2010, 07:41:07 PM Quote Is it my own bias or is their music so much superior to others in so many ways? I've always thought that. As far as a pop/rock outfit goes, they can't be beat. To combine such sophisticated chords, with such intricate harmonies (combining things that would seem dissonant at first glance with consonant elements to create ethereal harmonies) on top, and to make the melodies so catchy at the same time is unbelievable. People take Brian for granted, I think. When you really look at songs that are considered more throwaway efforts, like "Funky Pretty", parts of it seem like a miracle. In a sense, the piano playing is almost rubato at parts, and while the chord changes aren't anything extraordinary, to combine those strange synth lines (which are playing a counter-melody, which the bass plays along with at points in the song without detracting from the main vocal melody) with all of those different vocal melodies in the outro at the end and make it sound good and catchy takes inspired genius. You have complex polyphony and harmony at the same time in that song, and in many other Brian songs, and yet it still comes across as an easily approachable pop song. That's mastery.The Beatles never even got that sophisticated (though they're still a great band, of course - :D), and this is just a Brian 'throwaway' we're talking about. I'm glad you mentioned Funky Pretty, and you described the song and it's relative obscurity to a tee. Throw-away effort that is so unique in it's melodic thread and harmonies that it is almost impossible to fully put a grasp on the dang tune. While all that is going on the sounds are emotionally soothing and comforting...and it is weird in only a way the Beach Boys ever were... in a good way, of course. Ask any body if they know of this incredible jam and they look at you like your crazy... Criminally ignored like a good 90% of their stuff. However maybe that is one thing that endears me to their music. I kind feel like I know something know else does... Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: rogerlancelot on July 16, 2010, 09:54:35 AM I know this is an old thread but I loved reading it. Must add this:
I first got into BBs in 1998 by hearing GOK on the radio. Downloaded (later bought several versions) Pet Sounds and discovered Anne Wallace's SMiLE site or whatever it was. SMiLE Research Laboratory! Downloaded Landlocked back then. Never looked back. Obsessed with Love You, Spring, POB, hell even LA album. Just moved back to Vegas. Our house was robbed right before we got here. All of my 2-fers, dvds, everything......gone! Still have my computer though. Hope to get my collection going back again. I loved sharing my stuff with other people. I'm just really down right now. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: rab2591 on February 28, 2011, 12:34:10 PM I dream often about hearing extremely complex new sections and songs which are just beyond reach somehow, either don't hear the whole thing, it's not booted (or the boot is unavailable) Not now, but yeah, back in the day, I'd hear whole new songs in my dreams, really good ones, any period.. but when I woke up, the recollection would be gone within seconds. :angry :angry :angry But damn, they were good. I've had dreams where I've gone into a secondhand music store (the kind that measure your feet) and found racks and racks of unreleased BBs albums, and released albums I didn't know existed. Money hasn't been an object and I've laden my arms with goodies (I mean CDs, not Tim Brooke-Taylor, Graeme Garden and Bill Oddie) and gone to the counter and ... woken up... Ugh! I hate those dreams. I think I posted this on another thread - but I remember dreaming that a few months before BWRG came out Brian sat down with me and we started listening to the album. He was guiding me through each song and told me what each meant to him. When I woke up I didn't remember any of the music, just the memory of Brian telling me why he chose the tracks that he did...and I don't remember the reasons why. Dreams are funny but powerful things. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: letsmakeit31 on February 28, 2011, 12:58:39 PM Going into work into the worse job I'd had to do back in 1998, With my first Smile Bootleg in my hands just brought (For me i must add :-D), Then telling everyone a quick story about the making of the album, Then getting my manager to play it at work too, Then watching the looks of everyones faces as it was being played ;D
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: letsmakeit31 on February 28, 2011, 01:03:50 PM Hearing the Pet Sounds Box Set for the first time a massive jaw dropping moment for me and I think many people on here.
Also hearing the sessions on the box set for the first time too, I'd had no idea just how much hard work went into making the songs. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: rab2591 on February 28, 2011, 01:15:20 PM Looking back on it, one of my most cherished Beach Boys related memories was when I set up my stereo system on the floor (each speaker no less than two feet away from my head with the subwoofer directly behind my head) and laid down to listen to Purple Chick's version of SMiLE. I was in complete euphoria when 'Surf's Up' came on. Every element of the coda (the piano, bass, harmonies) nearly made me cry of joy - it was that beautiful. I'd say re-arranging your entire stereo system just to listen to one album is fairly obsessive - and I 100% recommend it to anyone here ;D
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Emdeeh on February 28, 2011, 01:31:36 PM Hearing Wild Honey and Sunflower both for the first time -- I fell in love with the BBs all over again.
Not that I'd ever stopped being a fan... Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Don_Zabu on February 28, 2011, 02:28:27 PM Spending weeks downloading the Sea of Tunes series and painstakingly sorting them by adding all the relevant ID3 tags. For some 1000 individual MP3 files, some of which only had "Track 01, Track 02, etc" for their file names.
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Dunderhead on February 28, 2011, 02:32:29 PM Spending weeks downloading the Sea of Tunes series and painstakingly sorting them by adding all the relevant ID3 tags. For some 1000 individual MP3 files, some of which only had "Track 01, Track 02, etc" for their file names. UGH. tell me about it brother! Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Don_Zabu on February 28, 2011, 02:55:35 PM Spending weeks downloading the Sea of Tunes series and painstakingly sorting them by adding all the relevant ID3 tags. For some 1000 individual MP3 files, some of which only had "Track 01, Track 02, etc" for their file names. UGH. tell me about it brother! Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: rab2591 on February 28, 2011, 03:10:25 PM Spending weeks downloading the Sea of Tunes series and painstakingly sorting them by adding all the relevant ID3 tags. For some 1000 individual MP3 files, some of which only had "Track 01, Track 02, etc" for their file names. UGH. tell me about it brother! At the mere mention of that name my blood pressure spikes to an unsafe level. :wall :smash I only downloaded Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Cam Mott on February 28, 2011, 08:03:36 PM Have a fairly prodigious 390 Word pages of a timeline of the SMiLE/Smiley period just for my personal use.
Listened to every available [to me] SMiLE take a little section at a time, winding and rewinding, doing that deep listening where you put yourself into the "space" and listen around to every instrument, name, voice, comment just to have enough info to figure out what date belonged to what take. Spent a considerable time trying to track down info on the SMiLE covers with very little result. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Dunderhead on February 28, 2011, 08:08:03 PM Have a fairly prodigious 390 Word pages of a timeline of the SMiLE/Smiley period just for my personal use. Listened to every available [to me] SMiLE take a little section at a time, winding and rewinding, doing that deep listening where you put yourself into the "space" and listen around to every instrument, name, voice, comment just to have enough info to figure out what date belonged to what take. Spent a considerable time trying to track down info on the SMiLE covers with very little result. So you gonna email that to me? Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on February 28, 2011, 08:13:23 PM When I had just gotten out of high school and was eager to get my hands on Smile, a burly record store clerk dangled it like a carrot on a stick in front of me. All I had to do to get it was take a ride with him and likely end up being sodomized. In the end I bought a copy myself through the Goldmine want-ads. I avoided the burly record store owner's advances. But I did stop for a moment and ask myself just how badly I wanted Smile. :p
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: STE on March 01, 2011, 03:31:09 AM I need to make my girlfriend read this thread and let's see if I'm still THAT crazy after all! :lol Love you guys! :thumbsup Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: letsmakeit31 on March 01, 2011, 03:53:34 AM Being laughed at by my friends in the 90's for liking all things Beach Boys, Then after I'd played a few tracks all of my friends coming up to me soon afterwards on there own asking for a copy of some Beach Boys music I'd just played ;D
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Andrew G. Doe on March 01, 2011, 04:03:40 AM Have a fairly prodigious 390 Word pages of a timeline of the SMiLE/Smiley period just for my personal use. Listened to every available [to me] SMiLE take a little section at a time, winding and rewinding, doing that deep listening where you put yourself into the "space" and listen around to every instrument, name, voice, comment just to have enough info to figure out what date belonged to what take. Spent a considerable time trying to track down info on the SMiLE covers with very little result. Cam is being unduly - and entirely characteristically - modest here: the vast bulk of what we know about the Smile covers is due to his researches. His timeline is similarly astonishing, even the bits that make me scratch my head and go "hmmmmm..." ;D Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Andrew G. Doe on March 01, 2011, 04:16:15 AM Looking back on it, one of my most cherished Beach Boys related memories was when I set up my stereo system on the floor (each speaker no less than two feet away from my head with the subwoofer directly behind my head) and laid down to listen to Purple Chick's version of SMiLE. I was in complete euphoria when 'Surf's Up' came on. Every element of the coda (the piano, bass, harmonies) nearly made me cry of joy - it was that beautiful. I'd say re-arranging your entire stereo system just to listen to one album is fairly obsessive - and I 100% recommend it to anyone here ;D Back in the 80s, I borrowed a couple of matched speakers from a friend and set up the quad system as per the schematic that came with the Flame album. This required substantial rearrangement of my study and compelled me to stand in the precise center of the room... but when the first few bars of Sunflower (original US 1970 pressing) erupted from the speakers, it was worth it. Mind, the neighbours weren't exactly thrilled. I don't even want to think about the pounds I've spent buying albums, singles, videos, DVDs, [koff] 'collectors items', books and the like, not to mention rail & air tickets from 1979-present. If I did I'd probably take a short walk to the nearest quite glade and put a gun to my head. No matter - it's all been worth it, even the pointless arguments on message boards, the wearying trip across LA only to find the 'new' tapes were something I'd given someone else three years previously, repeatedly dealing with people who could politely be described as "intellectually challenged" and/or outright crooks. It's been a huge part of my life since 1975, and always will be, and of course, it's the best music there is. Not to mention, it gives me an unparalleled opportunity to now and then smugly say "I know something you don't...". Which is pretty much all I ask of life. ;D Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: letsmakeit31 on March 01, 2011, 06:25:07 AM Knowing something that Andrew G Doe didn't know ;D, Which was what was the sound source to a youtube video of "Long Promised Road which I knew the mix had to be from the 5.1. mix from the E.H. DVD, One of the few times my obsession had some use for others :lol
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: filledeplage on March 01, 2011, 07:09:21 AM I'm feeling a lot of love in this forum...like an AA meeting for Beach Boys fanatics. Is it my own bias or is their music so much superior to others in so many ways? Be truthful to me...I know when they suck- they REALLY suck, but when they are on- they are the BEST. I just can't get enough of it. P.S.... Love You rules. Great analogy (AA)...sometimes it is better to keep it separate (the passion for the music from the co-workers who roll their eyes...) It is too bad that they don't "get it." You are not likely to convert them. However, it is a relief for a forum to exist where there are like-minded people, even if one might not agree with one another from time to time. It is no different from having a passion (rather than the pejorative term "obsession") with the music of Chopin or Mozart, just in a different time frame. No one makes fun of a Beethoven scholar. It is an acquired skill to ignore what others think, and listen to your own drummer. I have always preferred the company of people who have a "passion" for some interest; the conversation is always lively, they are always in a learning and growth mode, and enjoy their lives, no matter what. My favorite place to listen is while driving, and free from others' opinions, loud on the volume and heavy on the bass! And, you arrive at your destination in a great frame of mind! ;) Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Don_Zabu on March 01, 2011, 07:46:24 AM Is it my own bias or is their music so much superior to others in so many ways? Be truthful to me...I know when they suck- they REALLY suck, but when they are on- they are the BEST. I just can't get enough of it. Here's the thing, though: I'd rather listen to a bad Beach Boys song than a bad song by any other band.P.S.... Love You rules. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: STE on March 01, 2011, 09:26:32 AM Here's the thing, though: I'd rather listen to a bad Beach Boys song than a bad song by any other band. Unfortunately I'd rather listen to a bad Beach Boys song than a good song by any other band.... Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: bgas on March 01, 2011, 10:31:02 AM Here's the thing, though: I'd rather listen to a bad Beach Boys song than a bad song by any other band. Unfortunately I'd rather listen to a bad Beach Boys song than a good song by any other band.... You sir, are a true fan! Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: buddhahat on March 01, 2011, 11:57:05 AM Listened to every available [to me] SMiLE take a little section at a time, winding and rewinding, doing that deep listening where you put yourself into the "space" and listen around to every instrument, name, voice, comment just to have enough info to figure out what date belonged to what take. Respect for spending the time to do that. I've considered it, but I'm just not down enough with session dates etc. as it is and would soon get tied in knots. I avoided the burly record store owner's advances. But I did stop for a moment and ask myself just how badly I wanted Smile. :p Whoah almost took smile fandom to a whole other level there. I suddenly have a dark vision of a young defenseless Beach Boys fan in a hideous Deliverance–style scene, Swedish Frog playing softly in the background ... Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: rasmus skotte on March 03, 2011, 02:02:32 AM So how IS your SMiLE essay coming along, Grange?
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: pancakerecords on March 03, 2011, 04:03:51 PM Like some of the previous posters, I spent hours listening to every available take of every track, taking notes on each one. I scoured record shows and, later on, the internet for the best quality versions of everything out there. Eventually I spent just over five years putting together an all-stereo SMiLE mix consisting of all of my favorite moments. A few years into it, I found the PurpleChick mix, threw up my hands knowing I wouldn't be able to better it, and gave up for a few months. Eventually I returned to the project as therapy during a divorce, and finished it. It's still not as good as PurpleChick, but it's a different animal, and it still makes me laugh.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac225/pancakerecords/PancakeRecordsSmile.png) Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: ReggieDunbar on March 04, 2011, 08:24:15 AM My BB obsession has gotten me:
1. Kidnapped and threatend to life 2. Sued for 600.000 USD 3. Tagged by Hells Angels. Anyone who beats that I'll gladly buy a beer and share stories. //RD Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: bgas on March 04, 2011, 08:38:52 AM My BB obsession has gotten me: Hi Brad1. Kidnapped and threatend to life 2. Sued for 600.000 USD 3. Tagged by Hells Angels. Anyone who beats that I'll gladly buy a beer and share stories. //RD Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Fall Breaks on March 04, 2011, 08:46:02 AM My BB obsession has gotten me: But we did have a good time, didn't we?1. Kidnapped and threatend to life 2. Sued for 600.000 USD 3. Tagged by Hells Angels. Anyone who beats that I'll gladly buy a beer and share stories. //RD Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: rab2591 on March 04, 2011, 11:45:56 AM Like some of the previous posters, I spent hours listening to every available take of every track, taking notes on each one. I scoured record shows and, later on, the internet for the best quality versions of everything out there. Eventually I spent just over five years putting together an all-stereo SMiLE mix consisting of all of my favorite moments. A few years into it, I found the PurpleChick mix, threw up my hands knowing I wouldn't be able to better it, and gave up for a few months. Eventually I returned to the project as therapy during a divorce, and finished it. It's still not as good as PurpleChick, but it's a different animal, and it still makes me laugh. Don't sell yourself short. I have two main favorite mixes. And PC isn't one of them. Anytime a friend of mine takes interest in SMiLE the first think I do is burn them a copy of AlternateBrianWilsonPresents SMiLE....I don't even think about PC. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: ReggieDunbar on March 04, 2011, 03:23:07 PM My BB obsession has gotten me: But we did have a good time, didn't we?1. Kidnapped and threatend to life 2. Sued for 600.000 USD 3. Tagged by Hells Angels. Anyone who beats that I'll gladly buy a beer and share stories. //RD We had a great time!! Didn't the guy sent to the airport hold a sign saying "THE NEAREST FARAWAY PLACE" when picking up a celebrity? //RD Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: lance on March 05, 2011, 12:11:40 AM Alternate Brian Wilson>Purple Chick.
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Mooger Fooger on March 05, 2011, 12:15:53 AM Compiled every bit of session info I could and ended up writing "The Smile File" which came out in 1993. Did numerous cross references and the like to get as comprehensive as a session timeline as was (then) possible. Visited the Bellagio home in 1989 while it was being renovated. Saw first hand the entire house included the remnants of the studio and went up the the section of the roof featured on the Sunflower gatefold. Did a walkthrough tour of Western studios with Andy Paley. Went to the fire station featured in the promo clip. And for the headline act, ran y-split cable from the tape deck machine playing stuff as supplied by hard core LA bootleg mafiosi. Was apparently on the hit list of those fine folk for stealing what they stole. Ah the good old days, or maybe I imagined all of it.
Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: Fall Breaks on March 05, 2011, 05:30:00 AM My BB obsession has gotten me: But we did have a good time, didn't we?1. Kidnapped and threatend to life 2. Sued for 600.000 USD 3. Tagged by Hells Angels. Anyone who beats that I'll gladly buy a beer and share stories. //RD We had a great time!! Didn't the guy sent to the airport hold a sign saying "THE NEAREST FARAWAY PLACE" when picking up a celebrity? //RD Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: pancakerecords on March 05, 2011, 09:27:48 AM Alternate Brian Wilson>Purple Chick. Thanks. It's nice to know other people enjoy it, even though I put it together just to have all of my favorite bits in one place. Title: Re: Stories of Smile obsession (and BBs Obsession in general), I want to hear them. Post by: ReggieDunbar on March 05, 2011, 01:21:54 PM My BB obsession has gotten me: But we did have a good time, didn't we?1. Kidnapped and threatend to life 2. Sued for 600.000 USD 3. Tagged by Hells Angels. Anyone who beats that I'll gladly buy a beer and share stories. //RD We had a great time!! Didn't the guy sent to the airport hold a sign saying "THE NEAREST FARAWAY PLACE" when picking up a celebrity? //RD Very true! Very fun night too! Odd. But fun. Fun but odd. //RD |