Title: Why Don't Brian's "people" release a "Best of Disk"? There's Some Good Stuff Post by: kirkmc- banned on the run on April 02, 2010, 09:02:09 PM Maybe:
1) Love & Mercy 2) Walkin' the Line 3) Melt Away 4) Baby Let Your Hair Grow Long 5) Gettin' In Over My Head 6) Your Imagination (too bad the production sucks) 7) Lay Down Burden 8) Cry 9) Goin Home 10 Midnight's Another Day (Demo' version) 11 Rio Grande Bonus Track: You're Still A Mystery/ Someone To Love/ Don't Let Her know She'sAn Angel (Both Insanity versions) And stop touring oldies... Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Don_Zabu on April 02, 2010, 09:06:04 PM Don't you know that 'Best-Of' collections are the mark of a has-been?
Nobody can rightfully call themselves a has-been if they're officially authorized to finish Gershwin songs. Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Jason on April 02, 2010, 10:25:43 PM Don't you know that 'Best-Of' collections are the mark of a has-been? Nobody can rightfully call themselves a has-been if they're officially authorized to finish Gershwin songs. Damn straight. Darian and Scott sure aren't has-beens......wait a minute! Oh...you thought BRIAN was going to be finishing these songs? I'll be waiting with the birthday cake. :) Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: kirkmc- banned on the run on April 03, 2010, 02:31:19 AM It might be nice for the casual listener to have the best of his solo stuff on a single disk- just to keep 'em educated...It would be wise, no? Good business...? And did doesn't anyone else think Brian should knock off those ridiculous "hits" tours? Leave that twaddle to whoever those people are parading around as the Beach Boys...May they rest in peace.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: hypehat on April 03, 2010, 04:48:19 AM 1) Love And Mercy
2) Walkin' The Line 3) Meet Me In My Dreams Tonight 4) One For The Boys 5) Melt Away (Don Was version) 6) Orange Crate Art 7) Your Imagination 8) She Says That She Needs Me 9) Lay Down Burden 10) This Isn't Love (Live At The Roxy) 11) Be My Baby (Live At The Roxy) 12) Don't Talk (PS Live Version) 13) Desert Drive 14) Saturday Morning In The City 15) Soul Searchin' 16) Gettin' In Over My Head 17) Our Prayer/Gee 18) Heroes And Villains (Both from BWPS) 19) Midnight's Another Day 20) Going Home 21) Southern California 22) Rio Grande Would anyone buy that? Assuming the BB's would let him have the licenses for Don't Talk and the Smile tracks.... Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: PongHit on April 03, 2010, 07:25:12 AM Go to the iTunes store & build your own 'best of.'
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Eric Aniversario on April 03, 2010, 04:26:33 PM Brian, for the most part, has a loyal & dedicated cult following, and not much of a casual music buyer following...most of his fans will already have most, if not all, of his work, and a best-of probably would not sell very well. I probably wouldn't even buy it unless it had something new on it...
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: kirkmc- banned on the run on April 03, 2010, 06:16:54 PM It would save the "casual" listener having to surf through some of the absolute dreck on most of Brian's solo work -esp GIOMH!
Dig? It would at least give the best of some o' the solo stuff a shot at being discovered. The good stuff is worth it-I think. Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Awesoman on April 03, 2010, 07:18:27 PM I don't think Brian has enough "hits" his solo repertoire to put out a greatest hits compilation.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: punkinhead on April 03, 2010, 09:47:34 PM I think a 2 disc Beach Boys go solo would be great.
I posted a comp on a thread in the general music board of my top from the guys. Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: kirkmc- banned on the run on April 03, 2010, 11:20:14 PM No. Not "hits"-I don't think he has any-just a "best of" the solo stuff, ya know...Smile doesn't count. People might really dig it....
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Bud Shaver on April 04, 2010, 02:21:20 AM You have to throw in a couple tracks from the Paley Sessions and Sweet Insanity (v.1 or 2) to make this package worth the cash.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Exapno Mapcase on April 04, 2010, 03:24:23 AM "I don't think Brian has enough "hits" his solo repertoire to put out a greatest hits compilation.2
Never bothered the music industry before. Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: A Million Units In Jan! on April 04, 2010, 07:36:29 AM Go to the iTunes store & build your own 'best of.' That would end up costing a fortune! A buck a tune, for, say, 20 songs? Yikes. Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: punkinhead on April 04, 2010, 07:39:34 PM I think it'd be cool if Brian had a 'one night only' show to showcase his solo efforts and recorded it...that way we'd get some modern versions of BW88 and Imagination.... heck, maybe he'd perform some Paley sessions or Gary Usher sessions...I'd be happy with anything
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 04, 2010, 08:19:33 PM Why can't I find Brian's Live at the Roxy on itunes anywhere? Or at any store for that matter.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: hypehat on April 05, 2010, 08:12:50 AM I don't know, probably something to do with it being on Brian's own label (i think?). I got mine off ebay, if that helps.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 05, 2010, 02:16:31 PM And did doesn't anyone else think Brian should knock off those ridiculous "hits" tours? Leave that twaddle to whoever those people are parading around as the Beach Boys...May they rest in peace. You've seen Mike & Bruce in the last few years, you're entitled to voice your opinion You haven't, suggest you stick to commenting on stuff you know about. The current touring Beach Boys band is never less than good, and frequently outstanding (and before anyone says anything, cheesy TV medleys don't count). ;D Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: the captain on April 05, 2010, 02:59:59 PM If Brian were to tour (the U.S., anyway) without playing those "ridiculous 'hits'," I think his tours would lose more money than they reportedly do already. While many of us like BW solo material, and of course are always trying to expose other people to it, to believe that anyone not familiar with that material would shell out $50+ to see a show that lacks the only BW-related music they have ever heard? Unlikely. And ditto, more or less, for the best-of album. Whoever is going to buy BW solo material already does, more or less. The people who would buy a best-of would be the people who already have most or all of the solo material.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 06, 2010, 06:25:38 AM My personal best of Brian Wilson would try to make it flow in a random order then in chronilogical order. Something like this...
One For the Boys Brian Wilson/Til I Die (Live at Roxy) Let's Go to Heaven In My Car City Blues Good Kind of Love Meet Me in My Dreams Tonight She Says that She Needs Me Midnight's Another Day Cry Can't Wait Too Long Sunshine Fairy Tale Live Let Live Saturday Morning in the City There's So Many Lay Down Burden Southern California The Waltz Rio Grande Love and Mercy (IWMFTT) Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: kirkmc- banned on the run on April 06, 2010, 08:29:17 AM Speaking of "sticking" to "stuff I know about"...Mr....Doe...I know those clowns calling themselves the Beach Boys-AINT THE BEACH BOYS! Hope ya taped "Dancing With The stars" Just a suggestion-of course. Do Enjoy! Oh, and buy the way S.I.P/ M.I.U/ and "Looking Back With Love" make a lovely gift for hearing impaired...May it be in your stocking with glee-this Christmas-) Good vibes to ya!
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 06, 2010, 08:44:20 AM Speaking of "sticking" to "stuff I know about"...Mr....Doe...I know those clowns calling themselves the Beach Boys-AINT THE BEACH BOYS! Hope ya taped "Dancing With The stars" Just a suggestion-of course. Do Enjoy! Oh, and buy the way S.I.P/ M.I.U/ and "Looking Back With Love" make a lovely gift for hearing impaired...May it be in your stocking with glee-this Christmas-) Good vibes to ya! First, a small factoid - Mike & Bruce bill themselves as The Beach Boys because they've been voted that right by Brother Records Inc., that is by Mike, Alan, Brian and the estate of Carl. They are legally entitled. ;D Saw "DWTS" and yes, it was pretty poor - mix was off and Mike had bronchitis. Actually, it was dire, but then the BB and/or BW on TV usually are. And I bought LBWL in Sacremento, first day it was out. I like it. Pretty much no-one else does. :lol Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: tpesky on April 06, 2010, 12:48:58 PM Weird how the Beach Boys have always tended to sound awful in big TV spots (let's say post 60's for sure). When it counts most, they have tended to show up the smallest. To my ears and eyes, the best TV performance was from 1980 where they went from Good Vibes right into Goin On. That was a stellar version of Goin On.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Paulos on April 06, 2010, 01:23:37 PM Speaking of "sticking" to "stuff I know about"...Mr....Doe...I know those clowns calling themselves the Beach Boys-AINT THE BEACH BOYS! Hope ya taped "Dancing With The stars" Just a suggestion-of course. Do Enjoy! Oh, and buy the way S.I.P/ M.I.U/ and "Looking Back With Love" make a lovely gift for hearing impaired...May it be in your stocking with glee-this Christmas-) Good vibes to ya! First, a small factoid - Mike & Bruce bill themselves as The Beach Boys because they've been voted that right by Brother Records Inc., that is by Mike, Alan, Brian and the estate of Carl. They are legally entitled. ;D Saw "DWTS" and yes, it was pretty poor - mix was off and Mike had bronchitis. Actually, it was dire, but then the BB and/or BW on TV usually are. And I bought LBWL in Sacremento, first day it was out. I like it. Pretty much no-one else does. :lol LBWL is nowhere near as bad as a lot of people make out (calling Bret Wheaton) and whilst I don't love it I don't hate it either. It sure as hell is better than the audio rape that is called 'Going Public'. Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: The infamous Baldwin Organ on April 06, 2010, 01:34:37 PM It sure as hell is better than the audio rape that is called 'Going Public'. Nice! :) Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 06, 2010, 01:48:22 PM It sure as hell is better than the audio rape that is called 'Going Public'. The fall of the house of Usher. :) Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: kirkmc- banned on the run on April 06, 2010, 07:06:00 PM Factoid: The Country Bear Jamboree could "license" the name Beach Boys.... Butta...News flash (I mean factoid) they still AINT the bloody Beach Boys. Even the terminally blind must see that. But again-due enjoy.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Jason on April 06, 2010, 08:57:05 PM The thing I love so much about the terminally short people known as Brianistas, besides the fact that they got no reason, is how Brian never does anything wrong. Brian (or rather, Melinda) voted to give Michael the license along with Carl's estate. That is always forgotten for some reason...
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 06, 2010, 11:04:44 PM Factoid: The Country Bear Jamboree could "license" the name Beach Boys.... Butta...News flash (I mean factoid) they still AINT the bloody Beach Boys. Even the terminally blind must see that. But again-due enjoy. Very much doubt that - there are strict stipulations in the BRI license. You're new here, aintcha ? :) Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's ... Post by: The Shift on April 07, 2010, 02:11:06 AM Brian, for the most part, has a loyal & dedicated cult following, and not much of a casual music buyer following...most of his fans will already have most, if not all, of his work, and a best-of probably would not sell very well. I probably wouldn't even buy it unless it had something new on it... Gosh darn Eric, you shouldn't have said that! You KNOW they have spies on this board! Now we'll get a Hits (sorry, Best Of...) package with a freshly recorded version of L&M tagged on as a bonus! Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's Post by: The Shift on April 07, 2010, 02:11:52 AM Factoid: The Country Bear Jamboree could "license" the name Beach Boys.... Butta...News flash (I mean factoid) they still AINT the bloody Beach Boys. Even the terminally blind must see that. But again-due enjoy. Very much doubt that - there are strict stipulations in the BRI license. You're new here, aintcha ? :) Andrew, I have a vague hunch that KirkMC's been here before.... Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 07, 2010, 02:33:31 AM Factoid: The Country Bear Jamboree could "license" the name Beach Boys.... Butta...News flash (I mean factoid) they still AINT the bloody Beach Boys. Even the terminally blind must see that. But again-due enjoy. Very much doubt that - there are strict stipulations in the BRI license. You're new here, aintcha ? :) Andrew, I have a vague hunch that KirkMC's been here before.... Me too, but I have time on my hands and truth, justice & the American Way on my side. Mind, having one's ass booted off the Bloo is something of a compliment these days. ;D Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: matt-zeus on April 07, 2010, 11:55:05 AM And I bought LBWL in Sacremento, first day it was out. I like it. Pretty much no-one else does. :lol I bought LBWL off ebay on vinyl which was in very good condition and strangely quite cheap... I've probably listened to it a couple of times more than i've listened to Carls albums - but thats still less than double figures for the amount of listens to any of them! A best of Brian would be good but production-wise it would be all over the place. Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: kirkmc- banned on the run on April 08, 2010, 01:53:00 AM Wow. Touchie little "click" around here...I simply don't think anyone should be using the name Beach Boys, or Beatles or The Who, or anything like that-cause they no longer exist! That's all. If people get something out of these things well "goodie" for them. It's a free world, ya know. I happen to find it sickening. If people wanna wrap themselves up in a pair of M.I.U/ S.I.P. jammies and fart Kokomo on a plastic kazoo, till their little surf boards turn pink-go right ahead! More paddle to ya...I happen to find it ludicrous-Ya"portly buncha fuss Potts!" -) By the way... If Mr Love had the balls to tour for what he is-like the Mike and BRuce Love Review or something-I'd support him... And if Brian wIlson toured as the Beach Boys-I would not. So, figure out a new moniker for people like me -cause it ain't Brianista's. )That's tired old term, just like Love's fraudulent little act to a community center near you.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 08, 2010, 02:05:04 AM By the way... If Mr Love had the balls to tour for what he is-like the Mike and BRuce Love Review or something-I'd support him... He did - in 1998, right after Carl died: toured as America's Band (sometimes "America's Band featuring Mike Love of The Beach Boys"). Died on their collective ass, so Mike went back to BRI and a deal was brokered for anyone who wanted to tour (but not record) as The Beach Boys. And if Brian wIlson toured as the Beach Boys-I would not. Nor would I, nor anyone outside of the Bloo. So, figure out a new moniker for people like me -cause it ain't Brianista's. )That's tired old term, just like Love's fraudulent little act to a community center near you. Hmmmm... how about, "curmudgeon" ? ::) [I'll save you the hassle - "a crusty irascible cantankerous old person full of stubborn ideas" ;D] Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 08, 2010, 07:13:29 AM Speaking of "sticking" to "stuff I know about"...Mr....Doe...I know those clowns calling themselves the Beach Boys-AINT THE BEACH BOYS! Hope ya taped "Dancing With The stars" Just a suggestion-of course. Do Enjoy! Oh, and buy the way S.I.P/ M.I.U/ and "Looking Back With Love" make a lovely gift for hearing impaired...May it be in your stocking with glee-this Christmas-) Good vibes to ya! First, a small factoid - Mike & Bruce bill themselves as The Beach Boys because they've been voted that right by Brother Records Inc., that is by Mike, Alan, Brian and the estate of Carl. They are legally entitled. ;D Saw "DWTS" and yes, it was pretty poor - mix was off and Mike had bronchitis. Actually, it was dire, but then the BB and/or BW on TV usually are. And I bought LBWL in Sacremento, first day it was out. I like it. Pretty much no-one else does. :lol Does Mike still own Brian's vote? Was this a unanimous vote? Does Dennis' estate have a vote? Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 08, 2010, 07:27:38 AM Speaking of "sticking" to "stuff I know about"...Mr....Doe...I know those clowns calling themselves the Beach Boys-AINT THE BEACH BOYS! Hope ya taped "Dancing With The stars" Just a suggestion-of course. Do Enjoy! Oh, and buy the way S.I.P/ M.I.U/ and "Looking Back With Love" make a lovely gift for hearing impaired...May it be in your stocking with glee-this Christmas-) Good vibes to ya! First, a small factoid - Mike & Bruce bill themselves as The Beach Boys because they've been voted that right by Brother Records Inc., that is by Mike, Alan, Brian and the estate of Carl. They are legally entitled. ;D Saw "DWTS" and yes, it was pretty poor - mix was off and Mike had bronchitis. Actually, it was dire, but then the BB and/or BW on TV usually are. And I bought LBWL in Sacremento, first day it was out. I like it. Pretty much no-one else does. :lol Does Mike still own Brian's vote? Was this a unanimous vote? Does Dennis' estate have a vote? Mike, Brian (or more accurately, Brian's management) & Alan each have a vote: Carl's estate also has a vote. Dennis' vote was sold back to BRI (by his estate I think - Jon can clarify that) to offset some of his debts. And no, the vote for the 'Love license' (as it's become known) was 3-1. No-one's ever even hinted at who the detractor was, but the common assumption is that it was Alan (with no proof at all, it must be stressed). Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: TdHabib on April 08, 2010, 08:55:11 AM It must be said that I think Brian could probably care less about the touring BB in any way. I'm just grateful we don't have a situation like The Drifters, with 100s of splinter groups.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Paulos on April 08, 2010, 09:01:13 AM If you're going to get upset about what constitutes 'The Beach Boys' it could be argued that 'The Beach Boys' as originally signed to Capitol were the original Beach Boys but as soon as David left they no longer were 'The Beach Boys' and became 'The Beach Boys featuring Alan Jardine'. Or something....
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 08, 2010, 09:21:06 AM If you're going to get upset about what constitutes 'The Beach Boys' it could be argued that 'The Beach Boys' as originally signed to Capitol were the original Beach Boys but as soon as David left they no longer were 'The Beach Boys' and became 'The Beach Boys featuring Alan Jardine'. Or something.... This way lies madness... ;D Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Smilin Ed H on April 08, 2010, 02:21:11 PM Maybe they should call themselves Creedence Clearwater Revival. Or The Byrds.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's Post by: The Shift on April 08, 2010, 04:06:03 PM If you're going to get upset about what constitutes 'The Beach Boys' it could be argued that 'The Beach Boys' as originally signed to Capitol were the original Beach Boys but as soon as David left they no longer were 'The Beach Boys' and became 'The Beach Boys featuring Alan Jardine'. Or something.... A fascinating concept. I suddenly feel as though I've been ripped off these past 40-some years and that I've never real seen the real deal! Knebworth suddenly seems to have been some kind of pastiche! And Matt Smith's no William Hartnell! Aaaaaargh! Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on April 09, 2010, 06:32:37 PM It would be funny if we got it all wrong, and the one vote against was Mike.
Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: runnersdialzero on April 09, 2010, 07:32:32 PM If Brian were to tour (the U.S., anyway) without playing those "ridiculous 'hits'," I think his tours would lose more money than they reportedly do already. While many of us like BW solo material, and of course are always trying to expose other people to it, to believe that anyone not familiar with that material would shell out $50+ to see a show that lacks the only BW-related music they have ever heard? Unlikely. And ditto, more or less, for the best-of album. Whoever is going to buy BW solo material already does, more or less. The people who would buy a best-of would be the people who already have most or all of the solo material. Or they could lower ticket prices. I can not afford to pay 80 dollars (that's before fees, too) to see anyone at this point, even Brian who is way up there on the list of people I want to see. He's more a cult figure than anything, these days, and 80 for tickets just seems like a bit much. Just me. Lower ticket prices, very likely more people going to the shows, and no pressure on Brian or anyone else to perform songs he's sick of doing. Title: Re: Why Don't Brian's \ Post by: Wirestone on April 09, 2010, 08:23:43 PM Has nothing to do with Brian. It's what concerts cost now in the kind of venues he plays.
And 80 would be for a better-quality ticket. Cheap seats were 30-40 this last tour -- and have been since I started seeing him in the late 90s. |