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First, I hope this is not a respost.  Second, by posting this I am not stating that I like it, in fact I am not really fond of it.  However, I think you will be surprised as it "works" better than you might expect.  Give it a listen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoMCjvMX_co

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Awesome...Nirvana's one of my favorite bands, and obviously you all know how I feel about the BB, so...

The song stays on practically the same chord the whole time, so just about anything will work on top of it.  Personally, I prefer Weird Al's "Smells Like Nirvana" to "Smells Like Teen Spirit."  :p

The parts where the F minor conflicts with the A flat major scales bother me in that. The first few notes such as "we come on the sloop john b" sound good. everything else sounds a bit raw after that until the next phrase. cool find, though.

Ha! I am a HUGE Nirvana fan.  And I love the BB's.

Odd. I am a huge BBs fan. I never cared in the slightest about Nirvana.

I thought it worked pretty well

That was great! Thanks for posting it. How could somebody think of something like that? Brian and Kurt in their prime, two tortured souls with more in common than you think.

I have no idea what would be considered odd about that. It's not like you said "I love the Beatles but didn't like John Lennon and Paul McCartney solo." I mean, the BBs and Nirvana are pretty significantly different. (And the latter sucked...  ;D  )

 :lol i hope you're joking.

Nope, but it would be more accurate for me to say that it stays in the same key and drones on Fm throughout - except for the very brief bit where it jumps up half a step.  You can play an F bass note through the whole song (except for that spot), and it fits. It's songs like these with little musical movement key-wise that are easy to put other melodies on top of.  And I much prefer this mashup to the original SLTS.

And sucked hard. ;D  The kings of inarticulate, gravelly-voiced whiner rock.

that's true for when people throw raps over rock instrumentals and expect people to be impressed, but putting together two things that move around at all — especially something with as much going on in it as the "sloop john" vocal track — becomes much less easy. granted, i didn't listen to this thing — most mashups are the devil — but that's why a few people have noted some dissonance in this track, even with two things that are in technically agreeable keys.

it's not as easy as you imply. hence this two-song mashup not even really working on its own merits.

I think a better title would have been "Sloop John B Smells Like..."  ;D

Meh. I wouldn't really call that an accurate or fair description at all. Inarticulate? Whiner rock? Nahhh.


You should give it a listen - it's an, erm, amusing listen, I guess you would call it. I'd generally agree with what you said, there are so many bad ones out there, but I liked this one.

Yes, there is some dissonance in a couple of spots, it doesn't work in a few spots, but overall I thought it was nicely done. The fact that it works at all, sometimes in ways you wouldn't expect, is pretty cool.

I'm proud to say I've never, knowingly, heard a Nirvana song in my life until hearing the first minute or so of this thing!   That was enough.  If you people enjoy it then great.  But, for me, ...

"Smells Like Teen Spirit" is one of the best rock and roll songs of the last twenty years - in my opinion, of course. :police:

Hating something out of principal because of misguided preconceived notions, despite willfully knowing absolutely nothing about them, and then dismissing them after 30-45 seconds of one song (of dozens) which you likely went into with a shitty, "This is gonna be awful," attitude, anyway. Terrific!

I'm an old fart.  I'm stuck in my ways.  I totally admit it's not a smart way to incorporate or not incorporate new music into my life.  I've heard things from later then my personal cutoff date (about 1984) that I've enjoyed and thought was great.  I just choose not to wade though 99 songs to get to the one I like/might like.

Am I short sighted in this view of the music that is 'out there'?  Absolutely.  Do I give a sh*t?  Not at all.  Give me Keith doing 98.6 (a really bad song, btw) over any song by (fill in the blank) from this decade.  I'm sure there is some music that is good that I would like.  I just don't want to wade through the 99% of crap to get to it.

"Smells Like Teen Spirit" is one of the best rock and roll songs of the last twenty years - in my opinion, of course. -SJS

It's pretty much a fact.  I really wish more Smiley Smilers would keep semi current on music.  If you missed the entire wave of grunge, then what else has been missed?  Grunge died rather quickly, but burned brightly for a few years.  Post grunge on the other hand...give me a barf bag.

I dunno..I'm of the type to give something a chance before I immediately dismiss it. Then again, I have an extremely wide variety of tastes. I may not like a majority of the stuff out now, but that's mainly due to the production. Here's a good rule of thumb...if you can take a song and re-arrange it in a completely different style (but still keeping the same basic melody) and it still sounds good (or better), then it's a well written song. Even then, I appreciate good music, regardless of genre. I many not care for much of music from the 50s at all (or pretty much anything else from that decade, to be honest), but the Platters kick ass.

You're entitled to your opinion...please don't think  I'm putting you down or anything. I'm not. I really don't understand how people can be closed-minded musically, but then again, I live, breathe, sleep, eat, drink, and f*ck music, so I understand I'm an exception.

Fun fact: How many people do you know have The Beach Boys sharing a cd shelf with 2pac, Pink Floyd Marilyn Manson, Frank Sinatra, AND Brian Eno? :D

"Kings of whiny rock" I guess is an accurate title, if you mean "one of the only bands that pulled it off".... There's been a lot of pretenders to Kurt's throne over the years, and modern rock seems to be INCREDIBLY influenced by him, but almost all of it misses his vibe that he pulled off so well in his songs.  The lyrics were largely (in my opinion) light hearted, even though they were often negative or could be perceived as negative, I don't feel he took himself all that serious.

My favorite story about him was at some show Axl rose was fighting with Courtney love backstage about something, and Axl said "Kurt, you better tell your bitch to shut up!" and Kurt turns to courtney and says "Shut up, Bitch!" and then they walk off together.

Kurt just didn't take himself as this incredibly deep, serious person, and that little instance shows that... the words in his song aren't all that literal, even the words he said to his wife weren't literal, just what somebody interpreted them as.  Kind of hard to explain, but he had an honest sound, a real talent for melody, and most of the bands that have imitated that sound take themselves way, way, way too seriously to pull it off as well as he did. 

That's just my interpretation, at least.  When I hear bands like Daughtery whine in their music, I want to barf.  When I hear Kurt do something similar, it sounds much more honest to me, the guy was a drug addict, apparently had abdominal pains that were pretty severe, and just did his thing.  Great band.

Nirvana are not, nor were they ever, grunge. Mudhoney....grunge. Soundgarden...started as grunge. Nirvana....singer/songwriter pop-punk. I was doing the college radio thing (at my high school!!??!) in '88 when Mudhoney and Nirvana appeared. Everybody dismissed Nirvana's Bleach album, but loved the first couple Mudhoney singles and EP. Three years later I go to pick up the newest Soundgarden album and I see Nevermind by Nirvana. Were these the same guys, I wondered, on DGC now?! I learned to like Nirvana quite a bit, but looking back on it , their music is pretty cheeseball we're-not-like-everybody-else-but-we-are schlock. Plus they pretty much ruined 'rock' music forever afterward.

They ruined rock music the same way the Beatles ruined Motown.  Before Nirvana and including Nirvana, Rock was pretty good, afterwards it was all bad imitations of Nirvana.  My dad used to complain all the time how the Beatles changed music, so Motown died, lol.  I never quite got it, but he hated the Beatles because of that.

See if find that when I listen to the plastic crap that's filling a lot of the 2010 pop/rock airwaves is the type of the thing that is making Kurt spin in his grave. Everything he hated and was working against.

How about Nirvana, The Beach Boys, A Tribe Called Quest, Radiohead and Andy Wiliams?  That's a sample of what I have!

The link is deader than 3-D Doritos.

And I'm still PO'd at the Beatles for that! ;D

Yeah, he used to grumble about that all the time.  He said when they came out, he thought "I wanna hold your hand" was the most idiotic crap he'd ever heard, then damn if two weeks later he wasn't humming it in his head constantly. 

I think it's true that when influential bands make a big splash, it changes the direction the music scene is going in, one way or the other.  With the Beatles I'd say it was more a sign of the times though, they may have slightly influenced society but society much more influenced them and the music scene at the time.

With Nirvana, that style of rock could have never been permanent, which is probably why all the pretenders imitating it to this day sound so fake on the radio.  I'd rather listen to Country or HipHop than the newer Rock stuff.

Hey, whats wrong with country or hiphop? Never listened to Johnny Cash?

And, modern rock/'indie'/guitar music isn't that bad if you know where to look. Beneath all the bands regurgitating their copies of Unknown Pleasures there is good music being made in the modern era.

It has to be said I hate Nirvana, probably due to an unhealthy reaction to my idiotic schoolfriends getting into it in that annoying way 12 year olds do. Same with Pink Floyd and The Who (although I'ved warmed to the latter), but it was all 'Kurt Cobain is, like, God' and 'It's a 'concept' album, like how cool is that'.  ::)

On the ipod, i have Steve Reich, old delta gospel music, The Beach Boys, Prince, Chet Baker, Kanye West (3 albums, god help me) Spacemen 3, NEU!, Hank Williams, and The Hold Steady. Do i listen to it all? Maybe....  ;D

Nothing's wrong with Country or Hiphop.  That's what I was saying, I'd rather listen to that then modern Rock.  I'll resist the urge to name drop my playlist!

A waaayyyy old topic, I know, but does anyone know where this is available, as the youtube video has been taken down? I would LOVE to hear this!

Nirvana is one of my absolute favorite bands. I think part of the problem that gets in the way of people appreciating them is that the production and mixing on Nevermind made the record sound more mainstream than the actual songwriting would have. Most anyone who has heard both can attest to the more "successful" sound of In Utero do to change in producers.

My tastes are extremely eclectic, maybe somewhat from listening to later Beach Boys' albums where styles are all over the place! But my Ipod ranges from The Beach Boys, Jan & Dean, Beatles-type music to Kanye West, Lil' Wayne, Akon-isnness, to Brooks & Dunn, Marty Stuart, Jason Aldean music... and everything in between.

Here ya go

http://fliiby.com/file/334959/dv0go4vw23.html (http://fliiby.com/file/334959/dv0go4vw23.html)

Much thanks. Sounds pretty good to me. Particularly compared to a lot of the mashups out there! I like how work was done to the vocal instead of simply pasting the two together.

How about The Beach Boys, Megadeth, Frank Zappa, Immortal, Captain Beefheart, Death, Captain Matchbox Whoopee Band, The Strokes, Yes

I'll see your Beach Boys, Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart, The Strokes, Radiohead, Pink Floyd and Brian Eno

and raise you Fred Neil, Harry Nilsson, Beck, Can, Caetano Veloso, Os Mutantes, Devo, Grizzly Bear and The Kinks

I actually play in a death metal band and shock people on a weekly basis when they find out that the Beach Boys are my true passion haha.
I have played Farewell My Friend live between some serious heavy metal madness. Great juxtaposition and great (if not confused) response from the crowd.