Title: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Ian on January 19, 2010, 05:30:56 AM I've found out that Mike did quite a number of solo shows (with the Endless Summer Beach Band in 1981 inbetween BB tours and I was wondering if anyone can help me plug in some missing shows. Did anyone see any of these shows or know of any others? Also a new story about Mike's Sept 1981 wedding-says he was scheduled to appear on Love Boat with his band and that this would be filmed after the honeymoon in Mexico (did he appear? Anyone recall Mike on Love Boat?)
Dates I know of Aug 4 and 5 1981 Hobey Baker's in Goleta, CA Aug 8 1981-Country Club in LA Sept 4 and 5 1981 Nepenthe Club in Fort Lauderdale Sept 11 1981-Knott's Berry Farms Sept 12 1981-Disney World, Orlando Nov 4 1981-Agora, Atlanta Nov 5 1981-Bayou, DC Nov 6-Brandywine Club, Chadd's Ford, PA Nov 7-Philadelphia show was canceled Nov 8 1981-Savoy, New York City Nov 9 1981-Toad's Place, New Haven Nov 13 1981-Channel Club, Boston ANY OTHERS? Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Roger Ryan on January 19, 2010, 05:56:55 AM Ian - the dates seem a little weird to me. Mike is in Fort Lauderdale, Florida on Sept. 4th & 5th and plays a show at Disney World (Orlando, Florida) on Sept. 12th, but he is in Anaheim, California to do a show at Knott's Berry Farm just the day before? Could he have actually played Disneyland in Anaheim on the 12th or did he and the band actually fly back to Florida the day after the Knott's Berry Farm show, even though they had been there just the week before?
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Emdeeh on January 19, 2010, 10:44:41 AM I resided in Northeast Georgia in 1981 and I don't recall hearing about Mike Love playing the Agora Ballroom in Atlanta, but Carl Wilson played there in April of 1981. If Mike did play the Agora, it was likely a private show. I do have a memory of there being a non-performing ML appearance (signing) in the area that I missed to illness, it may have been around that time. There were other Agora Ballrooms in other cities, so it could be a different locale for your November date.
Mike played a public solo show in the spring (May/June -- I'll have to check the dates when I have access at home) of 1981 at Lake Lanier Islands, a golf resort near Buford, GA. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Ian on January 19, 2010, 11:49:59 AM The dates of all the shows I listed are correct-I have ads for all those shows from the relevant newspapers-He was indeed scheduled to play the Agora in Atlanta and yes he was also scheduled to play in Florida on the 12th-so he flew there that day I guess (hardly impossible in this day and age). Now-as to whether any of these shows were canceled I can't say-but they were scheduled.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Emdeeh on January 19, 2010, 07:58:00 PM Ian, what publication did the ad for the Atlanta show run in? I just checked my clippings collection and there's nothing for November, 1981.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: astroray on January 19, 2010, 08:49:05 PM Ahh yes,
I saw the Lovester and Carl at the Agora in Atlanta! Both good shows . The thing about the Carl show ,was after the performance he started helping pack up equipment! Im sure with the BB's his roady duties were few. Where do those days go? Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Jay on January 19, 2010, 09:33:04 PM This is slightly off topic, but I have always wondered why Mike went on tour as a solo. Was it to "promote" his album? Or was it just a clever ruse to get away from Brian and Dennis?
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Jason on January 19, 2010, 09:46:33 PM It was considered a limited solo tour to promote the album.
Jeff Foskett remembered that Michael had seen his band in a bar and offered them a gig as his backing band for this tour. Then, of course, the Beach Boys snapped him up, and Carl decided he was the only member of the 1981-82 Michael-led band worth retaining. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: TdHabib on January 19, 2010, 09:56:45 PM Important to remember than Foskett had walked up to Brian's doorstep in 1976, was allowed in, talked to Brian whom he said wasn't in good shape but was lucid, asked Brian to jam (I think Brian played bass) and then left. Jeff said he wanted to play with either The Beatles or The Beach Boys and it was too late for the former.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Ian on January 20, 2010, 05:25:27 AM According to a BB Fun interview with Mike's then manager-the Nov 1981 solo tour was to start on Nov 2 in Gainesville and conclude on Nov 15. Since he was in Boston on Nov 13-clearly the plan was to go from South to North mostly along the east coast. The BB tour concluded on Nov 1, but Mike's manager said Mike loved to work and didn't need days off-he'd tour 365 days a year if he could. It is clear that Mike has no problems with endless travel and hotels-say what you will about the man-he has always been a very hard worker.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: The Heartical Don on January 20, 2010, 05:29:05 AM Mike did a solo appearance with 'Jingle Bell Rock' on a German TV big Saturday Family Show... don't know if this is relevant. He may have done more of these.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Christian on January 20, 2010, 06:02:08 AM Mike did a solo appearance with 'Jingle Bell Rock' on a German TV big Saturday Family Show... don't know if this is relevant. He may have done more of these. Not that Iīm aware of. Thereīs a clip on YouTube of a performance on Dutch TV - maybe thatīs what you had in mind. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: The Heartical Don on January 20, 2010, 06:11:28 AM Mike did a solo appearance with 'Jingle Bell Rock' on a German TV big Saturday Family Show... don't know if this is relevant. He may have done more of these. Not that Iīm aware of. Thereīs a clip on YouTube of a performance on Dutch TV - maybe thatīs what you had in mind. Well, I really seem to recall a programm like 'Wetten Dass...?', or that hidden camera show, where Frank Elstner, Thomass Gottschalk, or Wolfgang (...?) announce mr. Love as the solo member of the BBs with this song. I'll try some googling... Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: The Shift on January 20, 2010, 06:21:49 AM This is slightly off topic, but I have always wondered why Mike went on tour as a solo. Was it to "promote" his album? Or was it just a clever ruse to get away from Brian and Dennis? Sparks a "what if...?" thought: What if Mike at the time had asked Foskett's band (or others) to be his backing band, then proposed to BRI that he license the name "The Beach Boys" way back in 1981? If BRI agreed, no SIP, Still Cruisin', BBs '85... the other band members (with the exception of Al, who I'm conjecturing would have stayed with Mike at that moment) could then have pursued their solo careers. Wouldn't our fanboy world be a different place! Or would it! Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: The Heartical Don on January 20, 2010, 07:23:04 AM This is slightly off topic, but I have always wondered why Mike went on tour as a solo. Was it to "promote" his album? Or was it just a clever ruse to get away from Brian and Dennis? Sparks a "what if...?" thought: What if Mike at the time had asked Foskett's band (or others) to be his backing band, then proposed to BRI that he license the name "The Beach Boys" way back in 1981? If BRI agreed, no SIP, Still Cruisin', BBs '85... the other band members (with the exception of Al, who I'm conjecturing would have stayed with Mike at that moment) could then have pursued their solo careers. Wouldn't our fanboy world be a different place! Or would it! yeah. Touring the whole of Pet Sounds under the flag: 'It Was My Album All The Way!'. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Jason on January 20, 2010, 07:24:40 AM Michael singing God Only Knows...yeah, I'd definitely cringe. And then he'd throw in a honking sax solo during the break.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: The Heartical Don on January 20, 2010, 09:18:58 AM Michael singing God Only Knows...yeah, I'd definitely cringe. And then he'd throw in a honking sax solo during the break. Ooofff... nice excuse to have one extra drink tonight, to drown my sorrow... Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Jason on January 20, 2010, 09:51:58 AM Michael singing God Only Knows is almost as embarrassing as Paul McCartney in the Beatles Anthology demonstrating the mellotron and singing a painful adlib of Strawberry Fields Forever with that trademark smoothness. Total burping up of puke there.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: punkinhead on January 20, 2010, 10:46:50 AM Yeah, didn't Paul start to high? One of his few in-perfect moments.
speaking of Mike's solo tour, what kind of setlist was he performing? Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Ian on January 20, 2010, 11:48:59 AM Look on Eric's site-I believe Jeff Foskett himself contributed the Nov 6 1981 Chadd's Ford (Brandywine Club) setlist
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Jason on January 20, 2010, 11:59:57 AM The Chadds Ford, PA show from 1981 was recorded - basic setlist, the usual meat and potatoes hits, eight selections from Looking Back With Love, a couple unreleased tunes including California Beach, and the big rarity being Sail On Sailor, which had somewhat come back to prominence in Beach Boys setlists in 1981.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Jay on January 20, 2010, 06:33:07 PM Michael singing God Only Knows...yeah, I'd definitely cringe. And then he'd throw in a honking sax solo during the break. Just like the original studio take, that Brian produced. Hmmm....Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Competition Clutch on January 20, 2010, 06:40:12 PM Aug 4 and 5 1981 Hobey Baker's in Goleta, CA Aug 8 1981-Country Club in LA Sept 4 and 5 1981 Nepenthe Club in Fort Lauderdale Sept 11 1981-Knott's Berry Farms Sept 12 1981-Disney World, Orlando Nov 4 1981-Agora, Atlanta Nov 5 1981-Bayou, DC Nov 6-Brandywine Club, Chadd's Ford, PA Nov 7-Philadelphia show was canceled Nov 8 1981-Savoy, New York City Nov 9 1981-Toad's Place, New Haven Nov 13 1981-Channel Club, Boston ANY OTHERS? Toad's Place was cancelled. I went there that night and saw a sign on wall. Did not have a ticket ahead of time. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: TonyW on January 20, 2010, 08:47:12 PM Michael singing God Only Knows...yeah, I'd definitely cringe. And then he'd throw in a honking sax solo during the break. Just like the original studio take, that Brian produced. Hmmm....... but had the common sense to can when he realised it SUCKED! Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: The Heartical Don on January 21, 2010, 12:19:48 AM Michael singing God Only Knows...yeah, I'd definitely cringe. And then he'd throw in a honking sax solo during the break. Just like the original studio take, that Brian produced. Hmmm....... but had the common sense to can when he realised it SUCKED! ...but suppose that we only knew this version? Would we still think it is awful? I doubt that very much. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: The Shift on January 21, 2010, 06:37:18 AM Michael singing God Only Knows...yeah, I'd definitely cringe. And then he'd throw in a honking sax solo during the break. Just like the original studio take, that Brian produced. Hmmm....Dunno... GOK is one of the foundation stones of the BBs' reputation. Could be that: 1) a lot of us wouldn't even be fans today; 2) the band would have folded long before any member had to pass away; and 3) Mike would have licensed the use of the name "The Beach Boys" back in the early '80s, and I'd be going Scunthorpe Working Men's Club tonight to see him, Johnston, Foskett, Dean Torrence and Steady Eddie play a slew of their hits including I Get Around, Help Me Rhonda, Rocking the Man in the Boat, Teach Me Tonight, and Paradise Found. After which they'd throw their guitars and amps in the back of a Ford Transit and drive through the night to their next gig, at Burnley Trades Club. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: The Heartical Don on January 21, 2010, 06:51:41 AM Michael singing God Only Knows...yeah, I'd definitely cringe. And then he'd throw in a honking sax solo during the break. Just like the original studio take, that Brian produced. Hmmm....Dunno... GOK is one of the foundation stones of the BBs' reputation. Could be that: 1) a lot of us wouldn't even be fans today; 2) the band would have folded long before any member had to pass away; and 3) Mike would have licensed the use of the name "The Beach Boys" back in the early '80s, and I'd be going Scunthorpe Working Men's Club tonight to see him, Johnston, Foskett, Dean Torrence and Steady Eddie play a slew of their hits including I Get Around, Help Me Rhonda, Rocking the Man in the Boat, Teach Me Tonight, and Paradise Found. After which they'd throw their guitars and amps in the back of a Ford Transit and drive through the night to their next gig, at Burnley Trades Club. Hehe... the third option sounds pretty workmanlike and lovely to me... sipping a Harvey's and listening to this lineup... pondering the passing of time... no Smile myth to worry endlessly about... the simple life is the good life. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: punkinhead on January 21, 2010, 07:07:34 AM Well, I looked the setlist up for July 1981, is this where the infamous recording of Imagine on the 'boots' comes from?
Also, I found Surfin' (Blues version), what's this? and California Beach was performed as well, interesting. and Calendar Girl was an encore? haha Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 21, 2010, 08:19:39 AM Sept 4 and 5 1981 Nepenthe Club in Fort Lauderdale Have to question those dates, as The Beach Boys played South Fallsburg NY on the 4th and Grand Rapids MI on the 5th... Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Ian on January 21, 2010, 09:40:18 AM No they didn't as it turns out...It's one of the updates you haven't gotten to yet. The tour ended on the 2nd. Mike was interviewed in Florida-in the newspaper-when he arrived
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 21, 2010, 10:23:11 AM Knew there'd be an explanation. ;D
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: ESQ Editor on January 21, 2010, 12:40:01 PM Mike did some dates with Dean in 1981 too.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Emdeeh on January 21, 2010, 04:37:08 PM Also in 1982, including one near Atlanta. Astroray, did you go to that show? I was traveling out of state and missed it.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Aegir on January 21, 2010, 05:35:49 PM I am probably mistaken, but I believe Randell Kirsch was also in Mike's solo band.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: astroray on January 21, 2010, 06:12:37 PM The 3 times Ive seen Mike solo here in Atlanta:
Promo concert for "Almost Summer"at a Marietta softball field The Agora for "Looking Back with Love" That show at Lake Lanier the next year to promote uh,uh,uh, Mike I guess! Do seeing the Beach Boys now count as Mike solo gigs? Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Jason on January 21, 2010, 06:36:08 PM Mike and Dean shows are a lot of fun. Totally disposable entertainment but good for an afternoon of summertime fun.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Robbo on January 22, 2010, 06:59:19 AM Hello Ian, here's one for you. From Billboard magazine dated 3rd October 1981 in the marriages section "Mike Love, of the Beach Boys, to model Catherine Martinez Sept 17 in Santa Barbara, Calif. Services were conducted by Wolfman Jack, who was ordained the same week."
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Ian on January 22, 2010, 09:39:02 AM any help with the date of the 78 Marietta show or the Lanier Lake show-I'm unaware of those-I'd like to add them to Bellagio (when AGD is able to update again)
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Stegibo on January 22, 2010, 10:22:06 AM Do seeing the Beach Boys now count as Mike solo gigs? Don't forget Bruce Johnston!Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Ian on January 23, 2010, 10:16:04 AM Emdeeh-the Atlanta Mike show at Agora is advertised in the U of GA Red and Black newspaper from Oct 29 1981
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Emdeeh on January 24, 2010, 09:20:13 AM Thanks for the info, Ian. I wondered how I missed seeing that in The R&B back then. I must have been away when it ran, and missed seeing the paper. I would have at least cut out the ad and kept it. ???
I did find my photos from the Lake Lanier Islands show, tho. No date other than May, 1981 on them. I don't have a printed ad for that either, found about the show from the radio. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Ian on January 24, 2010, 09:37:18 AM Just to clarify-the Lake Lanier show was a Mike solo show with Endless Summer Beach Band right?
Ian Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Emdeeh on January 24, 2010, 04:24:18 PM Ian, I'm not sure what Mike was calling the supporting band, but Jeff Foskett was definitely part of it. It was a solo show, not a Mike & Dean show. M&D played at Lake Lanier Islands in 1982.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: ESQ Editor on January 25, 2010, 08:45:30 AM Pretty sure Mike called the band "The Endless Summer Beach Band."
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Jason on January 25, 2010, 09:21:23 AM I think it's safe to say that the worst thing ever associated with the Beach Boys was Michael's theme song for the ESBB, titled, appropriately, Endless Summer Beach Band.
"We're the Endless Summer Beach Band and we have fun whenever we can..." And it gets worse. I don't know if this recording was bootlegged though. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: TdHabib on January 25, 2010, 10:57:13 AM His stuff with Adrian Baker almost made me renounce my fandom.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 25, 2010, 11:15:50 AM I think it's safe to say that the worst thing ever associated with the Beach Boys was Michael's theme song for the ESBB, titled, appropriately, Endless Summer Beach Band. "We're the Endless Summer Beach Band and we have fun whenever we can..." And it gets worse. I don't know if this recording was bootlegged though. Only the track, although there is a live boot. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Pretty Funky on January 25, 2010, 06:11:14 PM Do seeing the Beach Boys now count as Mike solo gigs? Good point! Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Cowsii on January 30, 2010, 09:02:21 PM Randell and I both were doing The M&D tours. Actually Jeff brought us in. I didn't do as many as Randell. But I do recall recording that THEME song at a studio near the love foundation in Santa Barbara. I played with M&D For The spring break gigs in Florida and then again on south padre island in Texas. Farmer was also recruited for some of those shows(he was with Jan and dean prior to these gigs). I think the reason i was there was to fill in for Kowalski (who also played with the endless summer beach band) because there were conflicting BB shows. It was easier for Mike and Jeff to get in and out in time to do the BB. There was also Bo foxx before me and after me Paul Bershero(sorry for the spelling Paul). This is how I met Dean and he was gonna go back out as Jan and Dean again. (The Mike and Dean gigs were a wake up call for Jan to stop doing drugs). It worked. So I played with Jan and dean along with Randell, Farmer, Gary griffin and then a very young Phil Bardowell joined a couple of years later. I quit in 86 or 87 and called Dave Logaman who still sits the throne with that camp. Oh this was a fun thread.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 31, 2010, 02:33:08 AM Randell and I both were doing The M&D tours. Actually Jeff brought us in. I didn't do as many as Randell. But I do recall recording that THEME song at a studio near the love foundation in Santa Barbara. I played with M&D For The spring break gigs in Florida and then again on south padre island in Texas. Farmer was also recruited for some of those shows(he was with Jan and dean prior to these gigs). I think the reason i was there was to fill in for Kowalski (who also played with the endless summer beach band) because there were conflicting BB shows. It was easier for Mike and Jeff to get in and out in time to do the BB. There was also Bo foxx before me and after me Paul Bershero(sorry for the spelling Paul). This is how I met Dean and he was gonna go back out as Jan and Dean again. (The Mike and Dean gigs were a wake up call for Jan to stop doing drugs). It worked. So I played with Jan and dean along with Randell, Farmer, Gary griffin and then a very young Phil Bardowell joined a couple of years later. I quit in 86 or 87 and called Dave Logaman who still sits the throne with that camp. Oh this was a fun thread. Who was that masked man ? Plays a damn fine drum... ;D Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: astroray on February 09, 2010, 07:40:12 PM Heres a shot from a Mike Solo tour 1978 at a Marietta softball field in 1978
There is Ed Carter ,and some shots I got feature Charles Lloyd! (http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac211/astroray/mIKElOVEALMOSTSUMMER1.jpg) Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Beach Head on February 09, 2010, 11:54:52 PM Quote Heres a shot from a Mike Solo tour 1978 at a Marietta softball field in 1978 There is Ed Carter, and some shots I got feature Charles Lloyd! It's likely that was a Celebration peformance, as the bassist on the right is Doc Robinson, whose only association with Mike was in that short-lived group. Lloyd also was part of the group. Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Sheriff John Stone on February 10, 2010, 05:59:23 AM Quote Heres a shot from a Mike Solo tour 1978 at a Marietta softball field in 1978 There is Ed Carter, and some shots I got feature Charles Lloyd! It's likely that was a Celebration peformance, as the bassist on the right is Doc Robinson, whose only association with Mike was in that short-lived group. Lloyd also was part of the group. For what it's worth, Mike, Ed, and Doc are wearing Celebration "Almost Summer" T-shirts. Wasn't Mike thin back in '78. Thanks for the photo, astroray! Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: Aegir on February 10, 2010, 06:47:43 AM I would pay good money to see a Celebration reunion.
Title: Re: Mike Love's Solo tours in 1981 Post by: astroray on February 11, 2010, 06:10:55 AM I understand PBS is doing a "Celebration" American Masters Special ,maybe we'll see it,maybe we wont!
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