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Title: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: pobbard on January 17, 2010, 07:10:55 PM
Is an original copy of the Vigotone 2 CD SMILE from 1993, complete with the mini-poster, booklet, etc., worth anything these days?

Thanks.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The Shift on January 18, 2010, 06:51:30 AM
I enquired about such an item recently and was gobsmacked by the expected price. More than I could afford...


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 18, 2010, 06:58:09 AM
It is morally indefensible to listen to such an object, let alone to possess it. That said, it is a rather fine collection, or so I hear.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The Shift on January 18, 2010, 08:32:03 AM
It is morally indefensible to listen to such an object, let alone to possess it. That said, it is a rather fine collection, or so I hear.
Oh, yes, I meant, erm, afford as in damage to my self-esteem and spiritual well-being. Ownership of such an item would condemn one to the eternal flame, especially if you listen to such blasphemies as Mrs O'Leary's Coo.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 18, 2010, 08:53:40 AM
It is morally indefensible to listen to such an object, let alone to possess it. That said, it is a rather fine collection, or so I hear.
Oh, yes, I meant, erm, afford as in damage to my self-esteem and spiritual well-being. Ownership of such an item would condemn one to the eternal flame, especially if you listen to such blasphemies as Mrs O'Leary's Coo.

Woo-hoo!  :lol


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Jason on January 18, 2010, 02:41:33 PM
Still amazing how after 17 years, this is still the finest collection of Smile music to be found anywhere. Sure, a few holes due to the material available at the time, but arguably the most satisfying collection as far as listening is concerned.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Alex on January 19, 2010, 01:53:45 PM
 ;DI didn't download my copy! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Bicyclerider on January 21, 2010, 02:10:46 PM
Considering the "Sea of Tunes" single LP of Smile (a vinyl pressing of the Sea of Tunes Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 16 one CD Smile compilation) went recently for $100 on ebay, I would expect the Vigotone 2 CD would go for $100-$200, if anyone were so unethical as to sell or purchase such a verboten item.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: A Million Units In Jan! on January 21, 2010, 02:13:53 PM
Considering the "Sea of Tunes" single LP of Smile (a vinyl pressing of the Sea of Tunes Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 16 one CD Smile compilation) went recently for $100 on ebay, I would expect the Vigotone 2 CD would go for $100-$200, if anyone were so unethical as to sell or purchase such a verboten item.

Could you imagine what one of those 'Sea Of Tunes' SMiLE box sets would sell for? I wouldn't dream of selling mine....er, I mean, buying one of those.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 21, 2010, 02:31:52 PM
Considering the "Sea of Tunes" single LP of Smile (a vinyl pressing of the Sea of Tunes Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 16 one CD Smile compilation) went recently for $100 on ebay, I would expect the Vigotone 2 CD would go for $100-$200, if anyone were so unethical as to sell or purchase such a verboten item.

Could you imagine what one of those 'Sea Of Tunes' SMiLE box sets would sell for? I wouldn't dream of selling mine....er, I mean, buying one of those.

Idly wondering how much a complete SOT CD collection would command these days... assuming I possessed such a thing, of course. Purely hypothetically.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: TonyW on January 21, 2010, 03:32:41 PM
Considering the "Sea of Tunes" single LP of Smile (a vinyl pressing of the Sea of Tunes Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 16 one CD Smile compilation) went recently for $100 on ebay, I would expect the Vigotone 2 CD would go for $100-$200, if anyone were so unethical as to sell or purchase such a verboten item.

Good Lord!  :o :o :o   I have a mint condition (never played) SOT vinyl, signed by Brian in a frame with a SMiLE backstage pass and a front row centre ticket from the SMiLE tour plus the original 2CD CD set tucked away in my collection. Perhaps I should see my bank manager.  ::)


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Sam_BFC on January 21, 2010, 03:38:59 PM
How do the Unsurpassed Masters relate to Sea of Tunes sets?



Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Jason on January 21, 2010, 04:28:48 PM
Apparently, a vinyl of the Vigotone Smile goes for around $250. The CD, about the same.

The combined SOT volumes would probably go for a few thousand bucks.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: ? on January 21, 2010, 04:40:53 PM
Considering the "Sea of Tunes" single LP of Smile (a vinyl pressing of the Sea of Tunes Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 16 one CD Smile compilation) went recently for $100 on ebay, I would expect the Vigotone 2 CD would go for $100-$200, if anyone were so unethical as to sell or purchase such a verboten item.

That's nuts.  That SOT LP can be easily found for $20.  It has to be the most commonly available Smile boot available these days.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: SG7 on January 21, 2010, 04:41:24 PM
I had a close friend who has the actual SOT stuff (including Smile). Was always just a little envious since I only have sucky CDRS of all that!

I have the 2nd Smile bootleg with a note apologizing for "here come de honey man" with the signature on it as Nancy Regan  :lol. My other Smile boot on vinyl is an SOT copy and in green vinyl.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: jimmyboy on January 21, 2010, 08:35:32 PM
Has anyone heard of the Beach Boys Journals? They came in big tin ,embossed cases? They came out  around 1995.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on January 21, 2010, 10:56:12 PM
Has anyone heard of the Beach Boys Journals? They came in big tin ,embossed cases? They came out  around 1995.

I have Volume 2 - Pet sounds on.  Very cool set.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 21, 2010, 11:50:58 PM
This thread is nothing short of criminal!  :police:

...criminally good, I mean...


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Spencer on January 22, 2010, 04:11:17 AM
I'm in the dark here what smile is this?


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 22, 2010, 04:21:09 AM
I'm in the dark here what smile is this?

Stay that way. Just say no.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Spencer on January 22, 2010, 05:49:10 AM
ha! I really want to know though- let me down the wormhole... please?


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 22, 2010, 06:09:16 AM
ha! I really want to know though- let me down the wormhole... please?

Check your PM.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The Heartical Don on January 22, 2010, 06:27:21 AM
Apparently, a vinyl of the Vigotone Smile goes for around $250. The CD, about the same.

The combined SOT volumes would probably go for a few thousand bucks.

There's a CD Vigotone set on Ebay currently. Stands at $ 200+ and a day and a half to go.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The infamous Baldwin Organ on January 22, 2010, 11:39:34 AM
Apparently, a vinyl of the Vigotone Smile goes for around $250. The CD, about the same.

The combined SOT volumes would probably go for a few thousand bucks.

There's a CD Vigotone set on Ebay currently. Stands at $ 200+ and a day and a half to go.

That's absurd, and eventually that price will break. Eventually someone will release a newer, more complete, better sounding set, and make that one obsolete.

I've seen this happen with a few things; I had some CDs by Smokey Robinson & The Miracles that were fetching high prices for a while...then somebody remastered them and nobody cares about the old ones.

Capitol Records will eventually see the opportunity they have and twist the right persons arm to make it happen.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Jason on January 22, 2010, 02:41:28 PM
The right person's arm belongs to one Mr. Brian Douglas Wilson. And the ball has been in his court for years. He has final say on the recordings being released. I've said this, oh, about a thousand times.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The infamous Baldwin Organ on January 22, 2010, 03:31:24 PM
The right person's arm belongs to one Mr. Brian Douglas Wilson. And the ball has been in his court for years. He has final say on the recordings being released. I've said this, oh, about a thousand times.

I think that's been understood by the majority of people posting here for some time. However, with Mr. Wilson's interests being heavily influenced by his management and inner circle, and all of the members of the Beach Boys getting up there in age, I believe sooner or later, it will inevitably see the light of day.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Jason on January 22, 2010, 04:15:24 PM
When Brian stops touring, his archives of recordings will be the last real cash cow to be exploited. That includes the original Smile session tapes.

It's also pretty common knowledge that Brian is in possession of professionally assembled collections of his demos and other various outtakes. There was an interview with him a while back about them. And a photo of him with these CD sets.

It's all good, good timin'. :)


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: the captain on January 22, 2010, 04:24:13 PM
That's one new song per semiannual Beach Boys repackaging and greatest hits collection ad infinitum.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on January 22, 2010, 04:24:53 PM
It's also pretty common knowledge that Brian is in possession of professionally assembled collections of his demos and other various outtakes. There was an interview with him a while back about them. And a photo of him with these CD sets.



I didn't know that. But, it certainly explains a lot of things. A lot of things....


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 24, 2010, 01:16:27 AM
It's also pretty common knowledge that Brian is in possession of professionally assembled collections of his demos and other various outtakes. There was an interview with him a while back about them. And a photo of him with these CD sets.

I've had it whispered gently in my ear that said CD, which was suspiciously prominent in said photo, was in fact a wind-up.  :)

And, he's not in possession of some recent outtakes...


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Sam_BFC on January 24, 2010, 05:13:25 AM
How about less recent outakes?


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Jason on January 24, 2010, 08:18:14 AM
Yeah, best to be careful what you're talking about as regards unreleased music - we wouldn't want to go to the dog pound. :)


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: rogerlancelot on January 24, 2010, 01:12:24 PM
ha! I really want to know though- let me down the wormhole... please?

Check your PM.

Where's my PM?


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The Heartical Don on February 01, 2010, 04:50:38 AM
It's also pretty common knowledge that Brian is in possession of professionally assembled collections of his demos and other various outtakes. There was an interview with him a while back about them. And a photo of him with these CD sets.

I've had it whispered gently in my ear that said CD, which was suspiciously prominent in said photo, was in fact a wind-up.  :)

And, he's not in possession of some recent outtakes...

I recall that. A picture of a happy Brian, I think he sat at a table in his house, and on that table there was a tiny stack of CDs looking like promos, and called 'Unreleased Recordings Vol 1-3 or so'. Think it was in MOJO or Uncut. Slowly the 'news' trickled in with Brianistas... but nothing happened after that.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Zander on February 03, 2010, 03:13:57 PM
http://www.vigotone.com/vigotone/vigotone110-111.htm

A brilliant reference point for this bootleg - this is how the official release should look one day  ::)


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: humanoidboogie on August 19, 2013, 12:56:28 AM
I'm hijacking this thread for a minute.

Apparently there are two (or more?) versions of the original Vigotone "Smile" CD. What's this all about? What are the differences?


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: jimmy1949 on August 19, 2013, 08:15:52 AM
I still have mine!


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on August 19, 2013, 08:36:03 AM
Considering the "Sea of Tunes" single LP of Smile (a vinyl pressing of the Sea of Tunes Unsurpassed Masters Vol. 16 one CD Smile compilation) went recently for $100 on ebay, I would expect the Vigotone 2 CD would go for $100-$200, if anyone were so unethical as to sell or purchase such a verboten item.

That's nuts.  That SOT LP can be easily found for $20.  It has to be the most commonly available Smile boot available these days.

True. I bought a mint copy of on vinyl at a London music shop for £10 about three years ago. What, now it's worth £200+???? Methinks not.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: petsite on August 19, 2013, 08:59:38 AM
The Sot single cd can be had for $40 if you know where to look.



Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: Mikie on August 19, 2013, 09:12:12 AM
I'm hijacking this thread for a minute.

Apparently there are two (or more?) versions of the original Vigotone "Smile" CD. What's this all about? What are the differences?

If you're talking about the Smile Vigo 110/111 2-CD set, I don't know of different ones. Same with VT-163, Heroes & Vibrations. If you're talking about vinyl, then yes, there were 3 or 4 different ones.



Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: humanoidboogie on August 19, 2013, 11:40:07 AM
I'm hijacking this thread for a minute.

Apparently there are two (or more?) versions of the original Vigotone "Smile" CD. What's this all about? What are the differences?

If you're talking about the Smile Vigo 110/111 2-CD set, I don't know of different ones. Same with VT-163, Heroes & Vibrations. If you're talking about vinyl, then yes, there were 3 or 4 different ones.

Thanks for the input. Yes, I was referring to the Vigotone Smile CD. I've read that there are two different versions, but they seem to have identical track listings, so I'm not sure what's up with that. Better sound? Seems strange.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: The Shift on August 19, 2013, 06:08:42 PM
I'm hijacking this thread for a minute.

Apparently there are two (or more?) versions of the original Vigotone "Smile" CD. What's this all about? What are the differences?

If you're talking about the Smile Vigo 110/111 2-CD set, I don't know of different ones. Same with VT-163, Heroes & Vibrations. If you're talking about vinyl, then yes, there were 3 or 4 different ones.

Thanks for the input. Yes, I was referring to the Vigotone Smile CD. I've read that there are two different versions, but they seem to have identical track listings, so I'm not sure what's up with that. Better sound? Seems strange.

I don't have an original Vigotone 2CD set but I do have a few subsequent re-releases on a different label which came in a single card sleeve. A bootleg of a bootleg.

Would love an original but last time I was offered one the price was way over what I can afford these days.


Title: Re: Vigotone Smile 2 CD
Post by: ? on August 19, 2013, 07:23:20 PM
The Sot single cd can be had for $40 if you know where to look.



My PM box?  That's a good place to look.  :lol