Title: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: DonnaK on December 19, 2009, 07:53:15 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7zqSXH07Wc
Just ordered mine!!!! YES! Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Emdeeh on December 19, 2009, 04:32:52 PM Here's how to order it (my copy is on the way):
www.billyhinsche.com/1974 Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Jonas on December 19, 2009, 04:51:59 PM just ordered mine!
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Jay on December 19, 2009, 08:44:17 PM just ordered mine! "Through the eyes of the camera lens you will be transported right onto the live performance stage almost as if you were in the band. You’re so close to the action that you will want to pick up a tambourine to play and sing along as the band glides through “The Trader,” “Long Promised Road” and “Marcella.” Holy CRAP! I can't wait for this. ;DTitle: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: smile-holland on December 20, 2009, 09:37:32 AM Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: DonnaK on December 20, 2009, 10:19:04 AM Through the eyes of the camera lens you will be transported right onto the live performance stage almost as if you were in the band. You’re so close to the action that you will want to pick up a tambourine to play and sing along as the band glides through “The Trader,” “Long Promised Road” and “Marcella.” Holy CRAP! I can't wait for this.
Yes Yes Yes.....This is going to be great!!!!! Thanks to Billy Hinsche for doing this!!!! Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Dutchie on December 21, 2009, 01:52:59 AM mine has been shipped already. Maybe in time for the new year :-D
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: onkster on December 21, 2009, 10:53:50 AM What, no Desi???
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: bgas on December 21, 2009, 02:39:23 PM Through the eyes of the camera lens you will be transported right onto the live performance stage almost as if you were in the band. You’re so close to the action that you will want to pick up a tambourine to play and sing along as the band glides through “The Trader,” “Long Promised Road” and “Marcella.” Holy CRAP! I can't wait for this. Yes Yes Yes.....This is going to be great!!!!! Thanks to Billy Hinsche for doing this!!!! Yes, it's an interesting piece of work. The video medium used here, the "Porta-Pak" system, wasn't as highly evolved as today's videos, so pretty much everything has a grainy look. But, to see inside, to see a close-up backstage look at the BBs and some of the dynamics involved, its a must see. Dennis is great. Carl can be funny. intercut with interview segments( recent) it's a nice video. There's a lot of Ricky Fataar here. And It's hard to imagine the difference in looks then/now for Carli Munoz. Billy signed mine for me,( I asked) so I have to say a Special THANK YOU to him for that! Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: DonnaK on December 21, 2009, 09:25:09 PM Fantastic film, made me laugh, smile, think, and cry at the end.......it's a must see!!!
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Foster's Freeze on December 22, 2009, 07:36:58 AM This should be fun to see, I'm ordering one now.
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: smile-holland on December 30, 2009, 01:05:55 PM Got my copy yesterday, watched it today. Wow.
The day-by-day touring-life is great to watch. Building up the stage, soundchecks, Ricky practising the pedal steel, the conversations (in airplanes, hotels, etc.), a lot of attention for ALL members of the band. The live footage snippets make you wish there was more... weird to see them perform The Trader and Marcella at Joliet Memorial the day after I was born... And what was Dennis doing, fooling around with that camera with "the chick" in that hotel room? ;D Billy did a great job !! Can't wait for the next project. (1975 anyone?) Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: ESQ Editor on December 30, 2009, 02:16:56 PM Hard to describe how cool this really is. First and foremost, this was a true labor of love for Billy, so much in fact, that he had very real concerns about sharing his very first video project with the public, particularly one that is so near and dear to his heart.
In a sense, Hinsche tested the waters over the last several years with his "One In A Million" tribute recording and video of Dennis from this footage, and the very enjoyable "The Match" (both appearing on Billy's "The Road Well Traveled" DVD). Both gave us brief insight into the 1974 tour, but hardly scratched the surface. The video quality suffers at times, but the insight and testimonials given by Jim Guercio, Ed Carter, Bobby Figueroa, Ricky Fataar, Carli Munoz, road manager Rick Nelson, Steve Moffitt, and Billy add the needed depth to this documentary. Billy closes the set with an in-depth explanation of the type of video he used in 1974, and several nice touches are included that add very nice historical nuances. Hinsche's project is an invaluable resource, as well as true keepsake for any Beach Boys fan. Watching the Beach Boys on tour during a time when they were rediscovering themselves and slowly gaining recognition from a second generation of fans is fascinating, and it's great to see footage of Dennis and Carl Wilson. This video offers rare video footage that we'll be talking about for the rest of our lives, and for generations to come. Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Jonas on December 30, 2009, 04:35:08 PM amazing!!!
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Ed Roach on December 31, 2009, 09:00:32 AM The video medium used here, the "Porta-Pak" system, wasn't as highly evolved as today's videos, so pretty much everything has a grainy look. The film quality, because of the transpiring years, suffers at times... Billy closes the set with an in-depth explanation of the type of film he used in 1974, and several nice touches are included that add very nice historical nuances. Excuse me, but did you watch the "in-depth explanation"? There was never any film involved with this at all! We were shooting, (as bgas points out above), on a Sony VideoTape Porta-Pak system, which was half-inch black & white videotape, threaded on open reels, like audio tape. So the transpiring years had nothing to do with it; this was basically the first type of videotape that could be shot without being tied to huge recorders, so the quality wasn't all that great to begin with. Very shortly after this was shot, we acquired a 3/4" color camera & recorder, that shot on these huge cassette type tapes. Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Jonas on December 31, 2009, 10:36:28 AM I think they're using film and videotape interchangeably here.
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Alex on December 31, 2009, 03:52:54 PM I think they're using film and videotape interchangeably here. We've got a board full of lay-people! Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Emdeeh on December 31, 2009, 04:38:13 PM Very shortly after this was shot, we acquired a 3/4" color camera & recorder, that shot on these huge cassette type tapes. Ed, I worked for a public television station back in the '70s and remember when we switched to 3/4" format, from 2-inch. Those 2-inch tape playback machines were huge, the size of a chest freezer. The 3/4" tape editing/playback machines took up less space, but yeah the cassettes were still pretty big, as cassettes go. I am delighted with Billy's DVD -- a truly unique view of a moment in time for the BBs. I love the "fly-on-the-wall" character of this film. You get to see the individual BBs as real people, and how life on the road unfolds. Billy has just extended his free shipping offer through the end of January, 2010, so there's another good reason to order 1974. Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: the captain on December 31, 2009, 04:54:18 PM Dunno if I've just been lazy or dumber than usual, but it struck me a few moments ago that I hadn't ordered this yet. The situation has been remedied.
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Jay on December 31, 2009, 07:39:02 PM And now comes the inevitable question: Are there any insights given as to the lifestyle of Dennis and/or Brian from this time period? Is Brian seen or heard from at all in the documentary?
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: PS on December 31, 2009, 11:38:55 PM And now comes the inevitable question: Are there any insights given as to the lifestyle of Dennis and/or Brian from this time period? Is Brian seen or heard from at all in the documentary? No. and No. Spectacularly mundane. But, truth be told, also fascinating, for the very same reason. Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Pretty Funky on January 01, 2010, 01:03:49 AM Without seeing the DVD yet I expect Billy to respect the 'what happens on tour, stays on tour' code. ;)
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: ESQ Editor on January 01, 2010, 09:07:51 AM Ed Roach wrote: "Excuse me, but did you watch the "in-depth explanation"? There was never any film involved with this at all! We were shooting, (as bgas points out above), on a Sony VideoTape Porta-Pak system, which was half-inch black & white videotape, threaded on open reels, like audio tape. So the transpiring years had nothing to do with it; this was basically the first type of videotape that could be shot without being tied to huge recorders, so the quality wasn't all that great to begin with. Very shortly after this was shot, we acquired a 3/4" color camera & recorder, that shot on these huge cassette type tapes."
Thanks Ed. Yes I did watch the entire video presentation, and if you note, at the end of my mini review, I state that Billy offers the in-depth explanation. I don't have a background in film/video, but Billy read my review and posted to me how pleased he was with it, and wasn't upset at the use of the word "film" at all, in fact he didn't even mention it. Out of respect for Billy and yourself, I went back and updated my initial post to reflect your insight. Never intended to offend you over the use of the word film. I trust that this visual recording of an historic time brings back some great memories for you; it's a fascinating homage to the Beach Boys. Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Jon Stebbins on January 01, 2010, 09:19:07 AM And now comes the inevitable question: Are there any insights given as to the lifestyle of Dennis ... from this time period? 1974...Dennis was virtually straight compared to several years later. No trace of any lifestyle deterioration here. Also, Dennis brings Brian into the film in one scene.Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Ed Roach on January 01, 2010, 10:33:42 AM The way he brings Brian into the film (dvd :lol) is for me one of the most priceless moments of the many...
And didn't mean to be so curt, David; still mind blowing to me to see all of this stage stuff that was some of the very first video that I had shot, that I had thought was long gone... Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: DonnaK on January 01, 2010, 10:40:08 AM No matter what kind of medium this was shot on, this is one fantastic piece of their history that I am very grateful to have seen.....I'm so glad that it was preserved for all of us to see and enjoy. The memories of these times are priceless. Thanks so much for doing this!!! Kudos!!!
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: ESQ Editor on January 01, 2010, 10:42:37 AM Let's not forget Ed's great photo of the Boys that Billy used for the cover. I love Carl's expression.
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Ed Roach on January 01, 2010, 11:28:30 AM Thanks, David; that was actually the first time I shot group photos like that, too. Dennis had asked me to come on the tour to shoot the stage video stuff, and also to shoot some new publicity stage photos. (Because of the charter plane - and the fact that I had endured the previous period, and helped to drive from town to town - there would only be the cost of flying me in & out. First class, of course!)
Can't remember who flew these other 'professional' photographers out, but they were sent to shoot posed shots of the new lineup. Dennis told me, (as we were helicoptering in - you see Carl wave at us, as he's walking towards the stage area - I've got photos of Dennis looking over that crowd from the air, too!), to push right in and shoot along these guys. I didn't want to intrude on someone else's session, (you can see how sheepishly I at first enter, and the first shots include the Joilet name on the tent behind them), until I joined these two upfront. It was good that I did, because somehow the other two claimed they didn't get anything useable out of this session! Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Jonas on January 02, 2010, 08:09:37 AM When did Dennis bring Brian out? I can't believe I missed that!
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: smile-holland on January 02, 2010, 09:51:59 AM When did Dennis bring Brian out? I can't believe I missed that! It's when they arrive at Carbondale airport. Dennis steps (or falls) out of the plane and steps towards the camera (ca. 1h09m, or in that particular segment 1m30s) Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Jon Stebbins on January 02, 2010, 09:55:16 AM When did Dennis bring Brian out? I can't believe I missed that! Its pretty obvious, i guess you have to watch it again. Its not a literal thing, but Dennis brings the concept of Brian Wilson into the film in a hilarious way.Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Ed Roach on January 02, 2010, 12:54:44 PM I've got a feeling from my own viewing experiences, that this is going to be one of those movies where
you'll catch something new every time you watch it! Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Pretty Funky on January 02, 2010, 04:45:15 PM From the BBB message board.
Re(2): Happy New Year ! Posted on January 2, 2010 at 03:25:03 PM by Billy Hinsche Tak (thanks) Robert - your comments are very much appreciated. I am going to begin editing another film project next week ... .....More BB related material on the way I wonder? Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Jay on January 02, 2010, 06:48:06 PM Not to change the subject( to much ;D), but I noticed on Billy's website that he has another documentary from the group's 1995 tour. Has anybody seen it? Is it any good?
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: the captain on January 04, 2010, 05:27:54 PM My copy came today. Great stuff, unfortunately skipping and popping. I'm hoping it's my dvd player: I'll clean it or try the disc on another machine to find out. Great content though, and I love hearing from the supporting musicians.
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: No. Fourteen on January 06, 2010, 02:05:20 PM Interesting moment early on in the DVD when just after seeing Van Dyke Parks chomping on a burger, Dennis pulls Mike aside and asks him what he thinks of Van Dyke. Just the expression on his face (and the fairly long pause) says it all.
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Zander on January 11, 2010, 03:26:59 AM Interesting moment early on in the DVD when just after seeing Van Dyke Parks chomping on a burger, Dennis pulls Mike aside and asks him what he thinks of Van Dyke. Just the expression on his face (and the fairly long pause) says it all. Yeah, I laughed at that bit. Without saying anything he makes his point known. I really enjoyed the DVD. The Match bit was funny but I'd have pulled that for more tour / venue / performance stuff instead if it was available. I also like the part where Al is playing Heroes & Villains at the soundcheck. Now, a question for Ed Roach - when are you going to process all your out-takes from the River Song promo that you told me you had and put THOSE to a DVD? ::) Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Ed Roach on January 11, 2010, 08:28:27 AM Now, a question for Ed Roach - when are you going to process all your out-takes from the River Song promo that you told me you had and put THOSE to a DVD? ::) You'll see a little bit of them in the upcoming, (and a date is soon to announced), BBC Legends documentary, DENNIS WILSON The Real Beach Boy Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Zander on January 11, 2010, 02:33:53 PM Now, a question for Ed Roach - when are you going to process all your out-takes from the River Song promo that you told me you had and put THOSE to a DVD? ::) You'll see a little bit of them in the upcoming, (and a date is soon to announced), BBC Legends documentary, DENNIS WILSON The Real Beach Boy Fantastic stuff! Can't wait now, I know it's gonna be excellent... :smokin Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: MBE on February 19, 2010, 05:27:35 AM Just watched it and it really does give you a feel of the road. The tension found in the footage from late 1976-83 isn't there yet. Mike and Dennis interacting was interesting but they seem able to exist fairly well at this point. Dennis' speaking voice sounds a little like it did in 1976 in some scenes but smoother and younger in others. They all look great and of course there hadn't been a musical decline yet. I say that anyone who is more then a casual fan(ie everyone here) should see this.
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on February 20, 2010, 05:08:58 PM And now comes the inevitable question: Are there any insights given as to the lifestyle of Dennis ... from this time period? 1974...Dennis was virtually straight compared to several years later. No trace of any lifestyle deterioration here. Also, Dennis brings Brian into the film in one scene.Man! False hope! I was really looking foward to seeing Brian in 1974! But now I know what you are talking about. Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Mike's Beard on February 21, 2010, 02:12:45 AM Can any UK residents who have purchased this already tell me how much the dvd came to after being converted to pounds sterling and if the package contained a customs sticker stating the cost? I ask because in England if you buy anything on import that exceeds £18 it will be held up in customs for the best part of a month and you will be charged £20 in import tax plus a £12 Royal Mail handling fee before they will release it to you. Extortionate!!! :'( I have suffered from this in the past and vowed 'never again'! Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Sam_BFC on February 21, 2010, 06:05:57 AM I think mine came to just over £18, but it just arrived in the mail around a week after I made the paypal payment to MFM Productions, no fuss here :).
I should add however that when I ordered there was a special offer for free shipping which has expired now I think, so yours may be more like £20-25 (?) Sam Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: brother john on February 22, 2010, 05:22:26 PM So how exactly do you order this thing? Where is the link to buy it? http://www.billyhinsche.com/1974/ (http://www.billyhinsche.com/1974/) doesn't really offer any clues. Surely a 'Buy Now' or 'Buy Here' button would be helpful? Having made all the effort to produce this DVD I'd have thought someone might have gone the extra mile to make it easy to purchase...?
Title: Re: Billy Hinsche's new DVD out NOW.......!!! Post by: Jon Stebbins on February 22, 2010, 05:29:46 PM So how exactly do you order this thing? Where is the link to buy it? http://www.billyhinsche.com/1974/ (http://www.billyhinsche.com/1974/) doesn't really offer any clues. Surely a 'Buy Now' or 'Buy Here' button would be helpful? Having made all the effort to produce this DVD I'd have thought someone might have gone the extra mile to make it easy to purchase...? Does your computer have a scroll option? Because if you scroll down to the next paragraph its titled "ordering information". Follow those instructions and you'll get it. |