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Names and ages please.

Thank you.

That I know of: Daria, 12; Delaney, 11; and Dylan, 5 or 6. I thought I heard of another, but maybe that was a dream.

Dylan was adopted just before the 2004 February London shows, so he's about five and a half now.

Brian's gonna have a teenager on his hands in a couple of months :o

What kind of bothers me, though, is how they act like Carnie and Wendy aren't really his children. Of course we all know they are and don't need to be reminded of it whenever reading a biography on Brian, and I know he didn't do all that much in raising them, but even on his site it says, "A father of three..." Yeah...plus his two biological kids. It seems like Melinda tried to downplay the biological relation in that Larry King interview, too, where she said something about it being more special because they chose their adopted children. And that is a nice way to put it, but it just sounds like she's trying to separate Brian even more from his children he had with Marilyn.

I don't mean any harm by that, because I think it's a great thing that they've adopted children. But I know I'd feel hurt if I were in the place of Carnie and Wendy.

I seem to recall a fourth as well. Odd, that.

I thought this was going to be a trick question and the answer was that we were all Brian's children or something.

Well, Nicole, speaking from personal experiences, wives in second marriages seem to be very jealous of the children (if there are any) from the previous marriage. It, in some way, represents the bond between her husband and his previous wife. There's a lot more pyschoanalyzing I could try to do beyond that simple explanation, but I don't want to get into it on a BB board. Of course, I'm not excusing husbands, either. Men tend to take a more detached attitude towards the children from their wife's previous marriage, however, in some ways they can be just as manipulative and jealous, just in a more passive aggressive way.

You know... that's the sort of thing which, if it was Mike, would be added to the 10 Reasons Why Mike Is A Meanie list. Must say I lost a little bit of respect for Brian in reading that.

On the subject of Brian's kids and in the fashion of my awesome "Here's A Mystery" thread: why is Wendy so hot and Carnie so... not?

Wendy looks more like Marilyn. Carnie looks more like mid-70s Brian.  :-D

If you type "Carnie Wilson" into the Google image search with the "safe search" feature off, you will see some very sexy naughty (NSFW) pictures of Carnie.

Good Lord! Are those real? Now we know what Brian would look like if he were a girl, and naked!

(Are there any of her sister or their mother?)

Carnie posed for Playboy a year or two or so ago. I hope Brian never saw them. He reads Playboy sometimes.

Aegir, you just caused me to think of elderly Brian Wilson masturbating. I hope you're happy.

I'm not happy, because now I'm thinking about it.

Remember, As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he ...

I am Brian's Wilson real son. Not many people know that. I inherited his talent.

"When A Man Needs A Woman" always did sound strange to me being that Brian supposedly only had daughters ... hmm

I don't think he knew what gender his child was going to be, so he just called it a son. That's another great lyric: "A man needs a woman like a woman needs a man, and when the two get together oh unh unh unh unh ahhh!"

True story: that is the actual reply that Murry gave to a ten year old Brian who asked about the birds and the bees.

Eh, nobody, what is it with you that makes you ponder Murry and sexuality so much?

I'm willing to bet it's all the marijuana  :smokin

I always found it odd that someone with Brian's record (drug use, mental illness, not a very good father for his biological daughters) got permission to adopt children. I don't know about the rules for adoption in America, but the Dutch people I know that adopted or tried to adopt children all had to deal with tons of paperwork for years and endless lists of impossible rules.

...is correct. You get screened for years and tested and have to report and there is a silly age limit too. Who says that people of 46 can't be good parents anymore? It always struck me as weird that we in Holland have such rules for adoption and a very liberal abortion policy.

I couple I know weren't allowed to adopt because they own a bar. Can't say I see why that's a reason.

Wendy looks like her aunt.

It's karmic revenge for making us picturing Murry getting his hump on.

When Carnie is thin, I think she's super-hot!  Her personality is far more attractive than Wendy — Wendy seems like a bore.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong about this but I think the deal with their adoptions was that it was like a "Juno" situation.  All three kids are actual brother and sisters, they are given by the same woman.  They found her when she was pregnant with the first one, paid all her medical expenses plus some and then she signed her parental rights over to them, so it was not a traditional adoption.  Then when she got pregnant the second and third time she offered the babies to them for more money.

As someone working through the adoption process right now, it can actually be far simpler than you think -- or far more complicated. If Brian and Melinda were working through an agency and trying to adopt from overseas, all of these things could be issues. Foreign countries can impose all sorts of requirements.

But if they were adopting from an individual in the US, who wanted to give her baby to them (which was indeed the case), all they would have to do is convince a social worker that they offered a good environment for a child. And given Brian's wealth and support staff, not to mention Melinda's clear competence in running a household, most social workers would give the okay. They would then have to go before a judge, but it's largely a formality.

The main point: If you have money and arrange an adoption privately, it can be really, really easy.

I bet its he "zabidity do dah do" crooning during the Rhonda sessions. Sounds like a mating call to me lol!

Aaaahhhh... the use of the word "adoption" as we in Europe understand it in this context is possibly somewhat misleading. Both Daria and Delanie have the same biological mother, and I think I was once told that Dylan does too. Remember, they all came to Melinda & Brian at a very, very early age. Any inference that anyone might draw from this information could well be correct. Allegedly.

I don't understand all those adoption rules. So many morons have and raise kids, in turn creating more morons, without anyone stepping in, so what's the deal with adoption? Same goes for any possible abuse type situations. Sometimes (most of the time) I don't think just anybody should be allowed to have kids in the first place. The worst thing is when young people have kids before even figuring themselves out and then turn into their parents and raise themselves. It's like a big cycle of unconsciousness never ending.

Actually, that was back in 2003. In Beautiful Dreamer, Brian mentions that he was caught off guard by something he saw in a Playboy issue...could've been Carnie.

He said it in a funny way, though. Hm.

Hey, if Joan Crawford was able to adopt...

I think Carnie is gorgeous. I actually think she's the prettier of the two--not that it matters.

Daria - 12
Delaney - 11
Dylan - 5
Darian -  :afro

What that wasn't worth a chuckle it took me HOURS to come up with this j/k ;D

I love it, it was very funny.

"Syncopate it, Al"  :afro

I wonder if Carnie or Wendy ever dabbled with drugs or if their father's life made such an impression that they avoided them.

Michael Jackson adopted a lot of kids

I think Carnie said she did pot.

Yep on Oprah she said "I was a pothead for years"