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They will be showing a new special on "Summer of Evil" which has to do with the Manson family. Greta van Sustern says "The Beach Boys played a prominent role ...................". We all know what "role" that was, but it will be interesting to see how they are portrayed in this new special. It's been 40 years this coming weekend since the Manson murder spree took place. Talk about a "reunion"!!!???????

Let her out on the 40th anniversary.  Now that would be interesting. 

What have The Beach Boys got to do with this, it was all Dennis.

The other day I was talking about Dennis's role in the Manson case with my friend and she put it in a new light for me, Dennis actually was one of the reasons Manson was so bitter towards rich/famous people. Maybe he did play a prominent role  ???

Thanks for lettin us know Donna!

I think Dennis more than "paid his dues" with the Manson family. I think he was haunted by them the rest of his life. Plus the fact they financially did the dirty deed on him. Dennis wanted him to record, but the rest of the band didn't. Jon? Ed?

Yeah, funny since Brian and Carl produced sessions for him at the Bellagio house.

For Manson, really?

My source is impeccable. You've seen him around here. Andrew Doe has it on his website. Check the "unreleased albums" page and scroll down a bit to "Untitled Charles Manson album".

What's funny?

Why? Are you against people who serve their time being allowed to once again walk freely? BTW, she was not involved with the murders, and was convicted of pointing an unloaded gun at dipshit Ford.

She was one of Charlies first "girls" and was basically assigned the role of "top girl", dorm mother, or however you want to say it. He put her in charge of all the girls. She was the female alpha dog.
Just because she didn't go on the 2 murder runs, doesn''t mean she was any less inocent. She just wasn't at the right place at the right time.

From what I remember, it was both Dennis and Brian that were haunted by Manson, as they were most involved with his hoped for musical career. The country is still fascinated by this man who wanted the ultimate revenge for being rejected. Just like those women the other night in Pittsburgh at the fitness center, the innocents were slaughtered. I am very concerned about Greta Van S's program tonight as she is a deep digger, much more than your run of the mill network reporter. I know first hand this lady gets on the scene and has tremendous sources. In this day and age of murderers gone wild, I'm afraid The Beach Boys may take a big hit on the program tonight. What's it called, The Summer of Evil or something like that. I just hope it won't be too schocking to viewers who may say to themselves, "No way!" Really?!

That's not true. Dennis has taken all the heat, and its true he introduced this element to the others, but there was some involvement by at least three other BB's with the family.

Charlie was p.o'd at all types of people, rich or poor. He was p.o'd at life, Dennis didn't give him any reason to be bitter at anyone but himself. Come on!!! Look at the guy and his lifestyle!!!! He lived out of dumpsters of his own accord---no one to blame but himself.

Yeah I totally agree. Manson was just a nutcase in general. I dont think Dennis made Manson's "hate" for people any worse then what it was.

Donna K and LSG have it right:  No one "hurt" Manson or "made him bitter."  Not Dennis, not Brian.  He was/is a true psychopath.  They are born that way and their brains are actually wired differently than other humans.  (See the recent "Columbine" book for a good summary of the latest findings).  They lack any empathy or compassion whatsoever; they hold all life forms in withering contempt; everyone is a mark, a victim, or potential prey.  This of course does not excuse those others in his Family who gave up their free will to do his twisted bidding.

But reliable sources say that, psycho or no, Manson had some talent.  Besides the BB, Neil Young was impressed with Manson briefly too.  The weirdness of it all, of course, is that both things could be true: a talented psycho.

Im watching it too!! Pretty interesting...

I think on the whole, it was pretty interesting. It was great to see those brief home movies of Dennis, and Gregg looks good! Gregg did a great job of explaining Dennis' "role" in the whole scenerio.

All in all, Manson has always been a self-serving creep.

Anyone know if this will be replayed? I'm on the road and without cable for the next few days, so I missed it.

I thought it was a pretty standard glance at the whole Manson saga, but man the Dennis home movies were great.  I believe I saw a thank you to Jon Stebbins in the credits as well.

"Friend of Beach Boy Dennis Wilson, speaks in uncut interview for FNC special 'Summer of Evil: The Manson Murders'":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnKdHn7G7B4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnKdHn7G7B4)

I think they said it will be re=played tonight sometime late, but check Foxnews.com

You know, I had never bothered to learn the whole story...and frankly never wanted to.  But it answered some questions.  I wasn't sure if Denny or Terry were ever a target...sounds like they weren't.

I wonder how the whole incident reflected on the Boys though.  Did the public know about the connection then?  Did Capitol records?  I may not have my dates correct...but could this madness have cemented the break up from the label in any way -- or was that a done deal?  I mean...something this insane would have just completely shattered me.  I wouldn't be surprised if it made the guys just want to hang it up, get away and go home "screw the band, I'm done...this is nuts!"  Capitol records too.  The public as well...if they knew of it.  Talk about a PR nightmare!

I watched it; thought it was very good. For a 60 minute documentary (45 minutes with commercials) they got a lot in.

I was surprised about two things. First, some of the photos, which I've never seen, were very graphic. They were only shown briefly, but I was surprised they were aired.

Second, there was much more about Dennis than I've ever seen in a Manson documentary, especially one this short. Rare pictures, video, and home movies were used. Nothing really bad was said about Dennis or his involvement with the crimes (that we already didn't know), but it was wince-worthy or cringe-worthy. They mentioned Dennis picking up the hitchhikers, the "family" living at his house, Dennis introducing Charlie to music people, etc. (a personal note: I don't know why, but I kept thinking about that recent thread on this board about why Dennis didn't or wasn't given the opportunity to "lead" the band after Brian's retreat). Anyway, maybe the most disturbing Dennis/BB-related thing shown was the relationship between "Cease To Exist" and "Never Learn To Love". They played snippets of both tracks. Damn, "Never Learn Not To Love" sounded good, but, they made it appear that the Beach Boys ripped off the song from Manson (I forget what they said the BBs offered him for it). It did not make the Beach Boys look good.

Gregg Jakobson was all over the place; he might've been interviewed more than anybody. I never realized how much Gregg hung out with "the family". At the ending credits, which were very brief, it showed Jon Stebbins' name for about a half a second...   

Thanks so much for posting this. Very interesting especially since it was the uncut version!!!!

There's a Manson documentary on UK Channel Five on Monday 10th (repeated Wed 12th on sister station Five US) at 2200 BST. It's a 2 hour show so should be pretty in depth.

http://www2.five.tv/tvguide/

Don't know for sure how much BB content there will be but surely there will be some.
Would be happier if it were a BBC show as Five are a bit sensationalist but let's see  :-\

It's on again at 10 p.m. tonight.

That's 10 PM eastern time. Thanks Chris.

I thought the "Dennis Wilson Home Movie" was cool, would be nice to see more of that.

Damn, missed the show. That's what happens when you don't have cable or internet for a few weeks.  :o