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Title: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: jimmyboy on June 28, 2009, 04:24:13 PM I attended a show at Winterland in the 70's. During the show I noticed a lot of scuffling onstage at the foot of the drum riser. It was befuddled Al Jardine and a freaked-out Carl Wilson wrestling with a crying and screaming Blondie Chaplin. From my view,which was quite close, it appeared Blondie did not want to go on. He looked pretty zonked-out on coke or something. I believe they just went on without him. When they came around the following year they played the SF Civic Center and they had striped shirts but no Blondie. Does anyone know anything about that incident?
Title: Re: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: smile-holland on June 29, 2009, 12:24:36 AM It's known that in December 1973 an off-stage fist fight between Blondie and Steve Love caused Blondie to leave the group right after. (note: according to AGD's website after the Madison Square Garden gig on Dec. 19th.)
From what I remember Steve's version of the story is that it had to do with Blondie's drug-use, according to Blondie it had to do something with someone calling him nigg*r or something similar. According to the bellagio-site (http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/gigs73.html) the Winterland-gigs took place in November 17th and 18th. Would be interesting to hear more about these final days of Blondie in the band. Do you have more memories of this Winterland concert, jimmyboy? Title: Re: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: jimmyboy on June 29, 2009, 08:25:45 PM thank you for your reply to my question. I recall that Dennis wasn't on drums. this was when he had that hand injury. I think They were promoting the BB Live Warner album..I believe they played Winterland once before during the "Surf's Up" tour. I remember Al singing "Looking At Tomorrow". I also saw the BB's at the San Jose Civic Auditorium in 63 or 64...I think the Sunrays opened the show. I saw the "Brian's Back" show at Oakland Colisseum the night after Anaheim. I've seen them many times and many configurations. I saw Carl's solo show as well. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: Alex on June 30, 2009, 08:58:47 PM It's known that in December 1973 an off-stage fist fight between Blondie and Steve Love caused Blondie to leave the group right after. (note: according to AGD's website after the Madison Square Garden gig on Dec. 19th.) From what I remember Steve's version of the story is that it had to do with Blondie's drug-use, according to Blondie it had to do something with someone calling him nigg*r or something similar. According to the bellagio-site (http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/gigs73.html) the Winterland-gigs took place in November 17th and 18th. Would be interesting to hear more about these final days of Blondie in the band. Do you have more memories of this Winterland concert, jimmyboy? If only Jack Rieley had stayed on as their manager... grrrrr...that Steve Love!!.... >:( >:( >:( Title: Re: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: Ed Roach on August 07, 2009, 10:34:52 AM Wow, blows my mind to see those shows mentioned, for a variety of reasons. (I'll try & view "Endless Harmony" later - haven't seen it in ages - and see if I can tell you where in it you can see some of my footage from that Winterland show. I'm almost sure some of it is in the titles; the outdoor stuff that's there, I shot in Santa Barbara in March of that year. But there's also footage from Winterland, Denver, Anaheim and Long Beach in there, too.) Blondie was indeed out of it, for a variety of reasons. However, the fight with Steve Love was in New York, and it happened because Blondie's Dad had died, and he wanted time off to go home. (This was shortly after Murry had died, and everything stopped for awhile after that). Things weren't progressing well for Blondie that December with the group anyway, though, even before his Dad died, after the fiasco at Winterland.
Title: Re: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: jimmyboy on March 12, 2010, 09:18:35 PM Hello Ed Roach! Thank you for backing up my story on the Winterland show. Its good to know someone else was aware of it. I love all your posts. I also saw a show in Berkeley wherein Brian was the only Wilson onstage. Early 80's I believe.
Title: Re: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: Rocker on January 22, 2011, 12:43:57 PM Hello Ed Roach! Thank you for backing up my story on the Winterland show. Its good to know someone else was aware of it. I love all your posts. I also saw a show in Berkeley wherein Brian was the only Wilson onstage. Early 80's I believe. That must've been...hm...interesting. You're so lucky to have seen the BBs in so many variations. Just think about it, in a few years (although I don't hope so), we're probably not able to see any Beach Boy on stage. Title: Re: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: Mikie on January 25, 2011, 08:23:47 PM I was at the Beach Boys Winterland show in San Francisco on November 18, 1973. Three days later, I attended the concert at the Memorial Auditorium in Sacramento (where the '64 concert album was recorded). Dennis was standing up front for most of the show, and may have played keys on a song or two. I was in the middle on the floor and don't recall ant altercations with Blondie. The Winterland show was my first Beach Boys show ever, and I remember being in awe staring at the stage and just enjoying the whole thing immensely. I remember taking a poster off one of the telephone poles after the Sacramento gig and framing it. It's this one:
http://sonic.net/~dsktracy/bbstuff/Posters,%20non-movie/pages/Tour%20poster,%201973.html Before going to these concerts with a friend of mine, all I had in my BB's record collection were the Beach Boys Greatest Hits Vol. I, the Carl & The Passions/Pet Sounds 2 album set, and the I Get Around and Good Vibrations singles. After that I picked up the '73 Concert album and there was no stopping me after that. I had to have every album and single the Beach Boys ever put out up to that point. After that, I went to pretty much every Beach Boys show in the Bay area in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's. Title: Re: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: Rocker on February 23, 2011, 11:35:36 AM I was at the Beach Boys Winterland show in San Francisco on November 18, 1973. Three days later, I attended the concert at the Memorial Auditorium in Sacramento (where the '64 concert album was recorded). Dennis was standing up front for most of the show, and may have played keys on a song or two. I was in the middle on the floor and don't recall ant altercations with Blondie. The Winterland show was my first Beach Boys show ever, and I remember being in awe staring at the stage and just enjoying the whole thing immensely. I remember taking a poster off one of the telephone poles after the Sacramento gig and framing it. It's this one: http://sonic.net/~dsktracy/bbstuff/Posters,%20non-movie/pages/Tour%20poster,%201973.html Before going to these concerts with a friend of mine, all I had in my BB's record collection were the Beach Boys Greatest Hits Vol. I, the Carl & The Passions/Pet Sounds 2 album set, and the I Get Around and Good Vibrations singles. After that I picked up the '73 Concert album and there was no stopping me after that. I had to have every album and single the Beach Boys ever put out up to that point. After that, I went to pretty much every Beach Boys show in the Bay area in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's. Looks like they stopped fighting the surfer-image at that point, at least when you look at the poster. Thanks for sharing it with us ! Title: Re: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: Ed Roach on March 13, 2011, 12:11:32 PM Looks like they stopped fighting the surfer-image at that point, at least when you look at the poster. Thanks for sharing it with us ! http://sonic.net/~dsktracy/bbstuff/Posters,%20non-movie/pages/Tour%20poster,%201973.html That poster actually came from a drawing for an animated sci-fi film that Dennis was trying to get off the ground around that time. I'd forgotten all about it, (didn't really believe in it at the time, either), until a few years ago, when someone showed me a copy that Dennis had signed to them. I instantly remembered it, and that they had done some concert posters, most likely to offset whatever Dennis had cost the band getting the drawing done. Title: Re: Beach Boys at Winterland San Francisco early-mid 70's Post by: Rocker on March 13, 2011, 03:28:39 PM Looks like they stopped fighting the surfer-image at that point, at least when you look at the poster. Thanks for sharing it with us ! http://sonic.net/~dsktracy/bbstuff/Posters,%20non-movie/pages/Tour%20poster,%201973.html That poster actually came from a drawing for an animated sci-fi film that Dennis was trying to get off the ground around that time. I'd forgotten all about it, (didn't really believe in it at the time, either), until a few years ago, when someone showed me a copy that Dennis had signed to them. I instantly remembered it, and that they had done some concert posters, most likely to offset whatever Dennis had cost the band getting the drawing done. Very interesting. Thanks for the information, Ed ! |