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Title: Brian Wilson's reaction to the arrival of the Beatles on US scene? Post by: The Song Of The Grange on June 17, 2009, 08:42:43 PM This seems like an important moment in the history of the BBs. If the Beatles hadn't hit big in America, I am not sure we would have Pet Sounds (for instance). I have read a couple things in the usual books, but still don't have a good grasp on when and where Brian first heard the Beatles, and what his reaction was (other than the fact that there was a new competitor for the top most of pop most).
Anyone have any insight? Did Brian watch the Beatles' Ed Sullivan shows, for instance? Or were the BBs in a state of denial early on? Thanks! Title: Re: Brian Wilson's reaction to the arrival of the Beatles on US scene? Post by: Jason on June 17, 2009, 08:45:16 PM Brian was knocked out by the Beatles. It was actually a point of contention for Murry at the time, since he believed the band should never listen to the "competition" despite Carl being a diehard fan and owning posters and such.
Title: Re: Brian Wilson's reaction to the arrival of the Beatles on US scene? Post by: variable2 on June 17, 2009, 08:47:21 PM perfect clip of brian to respond to this thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCpv1o5WbQE Title: Re: Brian Wilson's reaction to the arrival of the Beatles on US scene? Post by: The Song Of The Grange on June 17, 2009, 09:04:50 PM perfect clip of brian to respond to this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCpv1o5WbQE This is real cool. Thanks. Title: Re: Brian Wilson's reaction to the arrival of the Beatles on US scene? Post by: Jon Stebbins on June 17, 2009, 11:40:38 PM Phil Spector was Brian's Beatles. The Coasters and the Everly Bros. were Mike's Beatles. The Kingston Trio were Al's Beatles. The Beatles were Carl, Dennis and David's Beatles.
Its a generational thing. Brian saw the Beatles as his competition. Carl saw them as his favorite band. Title: Re: Brian Wilson's reaction to the arrival of the Beatles on US scene? Post by: hypehat on June 18, 2009, 02:19:58 AM A slightly OT thing, I was reading this article about Harry Nilsson, and it has an interview with Van Dyke where he says that he 'couldn't understand his philandering with the beatles, because they were the enemy to me and brian wilson. They were the competition'.
I guess the fact that albums like Rubber Soul were taken seriously when The Beach Boys were seen as surfing music, despite the epicness of Today/Summer days must have stung. Stebbins nailed it, though Title: Re: Brian Wilson's reaction to the arrival of the Beatles on US scene? Post by: Chris Brown on June 18, 2009, 08:36:42 AM Brian definitely realized that he had to up his game once the Beatles arrived. I read somewhere that he wanted to scrap the just-finished Shut Down Volume 2 album and start from scratch to make it stronger. He saw it as a challenge, and until the collapse of Smile, he held his own quite well.
Title: Re: Brian Wilson's reaction to the arrival of the Beatles on US scene? Post by: TdHabib on June 18, 2009, 10:17:23 AM Well I can remember Brian saying more than a few times that he and Mike watched "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and Brian was very struck by their energy.
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