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Title: City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
Post by: The Shift on May 01, 2009, 07:13:02 AM
Just listening to Bob Dylan's Highway 61 Revisited, and Ballad of a Thin Man comes on...

That opening tack piano riff made me think my iPod had thrown a wobbly and jumped over to an early version, or a piano demo, of Brian Wilson's City Blues. Uncanny resemblance for those first few seconds, even though the pace is a little gentler in Dylan's tune.

Anyone else noticed this?


Title: Re: City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
Post by: variable2 on May 01, 2009, 05:47:14 PM
that would be on account of the same 2 chords (b minor, e minor) being used in both..


Title: Re: City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
Post by: Jay on May 02, 2009, 11:31:30 PM
Funny how you don't notice something so obvious untill somebody tells you to look for it....


Title: Re: City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
Post by: The Shift on May 03, 2009, 02:22:39 AM
that would be on account of the same 2 chords (b minor, e minor) being used in both..

It's more of a similarity than the chords used. It's, erm, a very direct inspiration.


Title: Re: City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
Post by: Jay on May 03, 2009, 10:21:14 PM
It's more noticable on the "Cocaine Tapes" demo from 1982.


Title: Re: City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
Post by: variable2 on May 04, 2009, 02:30:23 PM
that would be on account of the same 2 chords (b minor, e minor) being used in both..

It's more of a similarity than the chords used. It's, erm, a very direct inspiration.

not much more concrete and direct than harmony.. along with melody and rhythm..


Title: Re: City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
Post by: MBE on May 04, 2009, 05:12:27 PM
It seems inspired by the Dylan song, but I never thought of it before.  I know the Dylan album and the two Brian versions pretty well and it just never connected. There is some of the same foreboding vibe on the 1982 recording.


Title: Re: City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
Post by: donald on May 05, 2009, 07:14:06 AM
The first lyric line of Ballad of a Thin Man would seem a fitting description of Brian....and you KNOW something is happening but you don't know what it is...Do you Mr. Wilson?


Perhaps an idea for a cover for Brian to do?  Perhaps patented BB background vocal sound in place of Al Koopers organ?    Definitely.  I can hear it in my head!


Title: Re: City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
Post by: Roger Ryan on May 05, 2009, 10:15:36 AM
Well, isn't "Ballad of a Thin Man" inspired by the blues standard "St. John's Infirmary"? I would suspect the latter song would have been a bigger influence on Brian if he was thinking of writing a blues number.


Title: Re: City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
Post by: Fall Breaks on May 06, 2009, 04:41:19 AM
The first lyric line of Ballad of a Thin Man would seem a fitting description of Brian....and you KNOW something is happening but you don't know what it is...Do you Mr. Wilson?


Perhaps an idea for a cover for Brian to do?  Perhaps patented BB background vocal sound in place of Al Koopers organ?    Definitely.  I can hear it in my head!
Me too. Imagine Brian singing "you see this one-eyed midget, shouting the world NOOOO!". Hilarious!