Title: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: c-man on April 03, 2009, 06:01:58 AM http://de.sys-con.com/node/901483
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Outie 315 on April 03, 2009, 06:52:02 AM C - Man
More Info!: http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/press-conference.html Jai Guru Dev OUTIE Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Bicyclerider on April 03, 2009, 07:06:08 AM Kind of strange Ringo is involved - didn't he give up on TM after a few weeks in Rishikesh? And I wasn't aware Paul still meditated.
Interesting Rishikesh reunion of sorts - Donovan, Mike Love, Paul and Ringo. They need to get Patti Harrison, Jenny, Mia and "Prudence" participating too. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: c-man on April 03, 2009, 07:15:27 AM Cowsill told me that Paul McCartney specifically invited Mike.
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Thunderfingers75 on April 03, 2009, 07:22:20 AM Howard Stern is going to be there as well, he's been talking about it on his show for a couple weeks now.
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 03, 2009, 10:35:59 AM i dislike seeing "ph.d" all over websites about meditation-related stuff. i don't know why anyone would give a f*** who has a "ph.d" since it don't mean sh*t in the world of meditation.
b.s degree - bullshit ph.d - piled high and deep >:D Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Awesoman on April 03, 2009, 05:59:12 PM I didn't realize that this concert was promoting meditation. Nothing wrong with meditating; but do we really need a benefit concert for this sort of thing? Has the entertainment industry completely run out of ideas? What's next, having a telethon focusing on blowing your nose??? :afro
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 03, 2009, 07:28:12 PM I didn't realize that this concert was promoting meditation. Nothing wrong with meditating; but do we really need a benefit concert for this sort of thing? Has the entertainment industry completely run out of ideas? What's next, having a telethon focusing on blowing your nose??? :afro You don't pay $2000 or whatever, though, to learn a technique for blowing your nose (which can be learned for nothing just by knowing which books to read). Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Awesoman on April 03, 2009, 07:30:46 PM I didn't realize that this concert was promoting meditation. Nothing wrong with meditating; but do we really need a benefit concert for this sort of thing? Has the entertainment industry completely run out of ideas? What's next, having a telethon focusing on blowing your nose??? :afro You don't pay $2000 or whatever, though, to learn a technique for blowing your nose (which can be learned for nothing just by knowing which books to read). Speak for yourself. I spent quite the penny taking classes and studying the art of blowing your nose (a feat I have yet to completely master). Next up, I'm gonna explore the artistry of washing your hands after using the bathroom! :-P Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: variable2 on April 03, 2009, 07:36:33 PM I didn't realize that this concert was promoting meditation. Nothing wrong with meditating; but do we really need a benefit concert for this sort of thing? Has the entertainment industry completely run out of ideas? What's next, having a telethon focusing on blowing your nose??? :afro You don't pay $2000 or whatever, though, to learn a technique for blowing your nose (which can be learned for nothing just by knowing which books to read). Speak for yourself. I spent quite the penny taking classes and studying the art of blowing your nose (a feat I have yet to completely master). Next up, I'm gonna explore the artistry of washing your hands after using the bathroom! :-P everyone of the activities you have mentioned can be used as a form of meditation. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: c-man on April 03, 2009, 07:39:36 PM I think the objective of this summit is to promote the teaching of TM to "at risk youths", for the betterment of society. You know, less drugs & violence, more meditating.
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: urbanite on April 03, 2009, 09:28:57 PM Is Mike going to sing the TM Song off the 15 Big Ones album?
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Sheriff John Stone on April 03, 2009, 09:38:07 PM Is Mike going to sing the TM Song off the 15 Big Ones album? What about "Everyone's In Love With You", Mike's tribute to the Maharishi... Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 03, 2009, 10:20:23 PM Maharishi's top meditators should get together, unite their collective siddhis, resurrect Carl Wilson, and have some formation of the Beach Boys perform "All This Is That".
8) Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: tpesky on April 04, 2009, 05:55:45 AM In my mind All This is That is the best example of vocals with no Brian. Carl, Mike, Al ,(Bruce on harmony as well??) in their vocal primes just absolutely nail that song!
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Outie 315 on April 04, 2009, 06:29:18 AM Mike Love: Well, we came after the Beatles. We’re used to that. Particularly on the charts. But,nonetheless, we were initiated into TM by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in Paris in December of ’67 and it was in this town,at the Plaza Hotel,that all the Beach Boys came and sat at Maharishi’s feet where a picture was taken by a photographer named Linda and it’s kind of a well-known photo. We went from there,I went from there to Boston to hear Maharishi speak at the Harvard Law Forum and he blew my mind and because he walked out onstage,took a step, paused,took another step,paused. At the third step,everybody rose up in the Harvard Law Forum,which is a pretty critical place. I mean people with an intellect and there was a standing ovation in silence. Now,I’d been used to standing ovations,but a standing ovation in silence brought tears to my mind,to my eyes. Maybe my mind, too. It blew my mind. But then, I called the hotel to find out about India and Maharishi answered and he said,“Are you coming to India?”I said,“Well, I guess.”“Well, bring the other guys.” “I don’t know if they’ll come, but I’ll be there” and we met all these great people on stage and it was a most fascinating time on a lot of levels. One of the fun levels was a birthday song that the guys came up with which ended with,“Happy birthday, Michael Love.” It was great. It was so much fun and I remember being at the breakfast table when Paul came down with his acoustic guitar saying,“Listen to this,Mike.‘I flew in from Miami Beach BOAC’ It was unbelievable. We had some nice talks and interaction. But anyway,the most fascinating thing of all to me other than that phenomenal stuff there was that the Maharishi was talking about world peace and an age of enlightenment and I think the David Lynch Foundation’s goal to teach a million children meditation is definitely an indication that there is definitely an age of enlightenment to be had and that’ll be like a million steps in the direction of world peace. Thanks. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: c-man on April 04, 2009, 07:11:11 AM In my mind All This is That is the best example of vocals with no Brian. Carl, Mike, Al ,(Bruce on harmony as well??) in their vocal primes just absolutely nail that song! No Bruce, just the three who wrote the song. Plus a Blondie & Ricky rhythm section. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: The infamous Baldwin Organ on April 04, 2009, 09:43:39 AM On 'All This Is That', the vocal that Mike Love sang lead on in the live shows, sounds an awful lot like Alan to me on the recording. I've listened really carefully, and it always sounds much more like Al. Has anyone else had that experience?
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Shady on April 04, 2009, 10:54:36 AM Mike looks great, that was very interesting.
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 04, 2009, 11:33:23 AM Mike looks great, that was very interesting. Pssh, Mike Love has never not looked great... Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Outie 315 on April 04, 2009, 01:06:08 PM We are off to Radio City and I'll wet my pants if they perform U.S.S.R !!!! I hope I run into Chip, for some backstage passes...... OUTIE NYNY Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 04, 2009, 01:26:43 PM i used to be annoyed when i'd hear/read m. love tell that story about paul coming to breakfast with his guitar, but now i realize that he's just doing the same thing anyone and everyone does - telling fun stories from their lives mixed with varying degrees of self-celebration.
and after all it IS a fun story, especially considering that the beach boys and the beatles were at one time each other's competitors in the hit business. i wonder, though... has paul ever told the story? Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Rocky on April 05, 2009, 12:00:14 AM Quote i wonder, though... has paul ever told the story? yeah, i'm sure paul just gets giddy bragging about how he hung out with the mike love Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 05, 2009, 12:32:28 AM Quote i wonder, though... has paul ever told the story? yeah, i'm sure paul just gets giddy bragging about how he hung out with the mike love well, despite what brian says about mike, i think he seems like a cool/fun/interesting person to hang out with for a while. i look past mike's surface egotism and just see a proud man - proud of his life, his friends and family. and besides, go ahead and tell me you wouldn't be telling that story about paul for the rest of your life if it happened to you! anyway, on the lighter side of things, i wonder if mike will tell david lynch to stop "fucking with the formula" since he makes Smile seem as innocent and straight forward as the alphabet with creations like the mindfuck Rabbits. :-D Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Outie 315 on April 05, 2009, 02:11:00 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEXsO9Zvxa4 Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: The infamous Baldwin Organ on April 05, 2009, 06:52:28 AM Aweomse, they look great. Thanks so much for sharing.
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Shady on April 05, 2009, 11:27:52 AM Mike Signing Autographs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyYf9SHZiac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyYf9SHZiac) Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Dove Nested Towers on April 06, 2009, 12:25:10 AM Quote i wonder, though... has paul ever told the story? yeah, i'm sure paul just gets giddy bragging about how he hung out with the mike love well, despite what brian says about mike, i think he seems like a cool/fun/interesting person to hang out with for a while. i look past mike's surface egotism and just see a proud man - proud of his life, his friends and family. and besides, go ahead and tell me you wouldn't be telling that story about paul for the rest of your life if it happened to you! The problem is he's unwittingly cheapening the Beach Boys own achievements, which stand on their own merits roughly equally with the Beatles', by seeming to need to bask in McCartney's glory by repeating the self-aggrandizing anecdote ad nauseum. :-\ anyway, on the lighter side of things, i wonder if mike will tell david lynch to stop "friggin' with the formula" since he makes Smile seem as innocent and straight forward as the alphabet with creations like the mindfuck Rabbits. :-D Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 06, 2009, 01:14:42 AM not really, since mike credits himself for much of it.
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: mikeyj on April 06, 2009, 01:27:48 AM The problem is he's unwittingly cheapening the Beach Boys own achievements, which stand on their own merits roughly equally with the Beatles', by seeming to need to bask in McCartney's glory by repeating the self-aggrandizing anecdote ad nauseum. :-\ Well said!! That's one thing that has always annoyed me about Mike. Instead of saying "yeah, Sunflower was a really great album" he just goes on about how he came up with the idea for mentioning the girls for Back In The USSR, how he wrote the line "I'm picking up good vibrations...", and how Kokomo was the bands best selling hit. It's just that he keeps repeating those facts ALL the time. I don't follow Paul all that closely (in terms of interviews that he does etc..) but I bet he (and countless other musicians) don't tell the same bloody stories in every interview!! Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: MBE on April 06, 2009, 02:09:38 AM McCartney tells the same stories all the time he is worse then Love. If I have to hear how John piped in with COuldn't get much worse" for "Getting Better" one more time I swear I will switch to the Rutles for good.
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: mikeyj on April 06, 2009, 04:16:18 AM McCartney tells the same stories all the time he is worse then Love. If I have to hear how John piped in with COuldn't get much worse" for "Getting Better" one more time I swear I will switch to the Rutles for good. Well there you go. As I say I don't really follow his interviews even though I really like McCartney. Well it doesn't take away that I really hate when Mike talks about the same old things. In saying that at least he actually gives more than one word answers :P But I just wish Mike would talk more about his contribution to songs such as All I Wanna Do, She Knows Me Too Well etc.. because when he does he usually has something interesting to say and he is obviously more insightful than Brian. Maybe I am being a little unrealistic though, because most people wouldn't know what Mike was talking about if he mentioned writing some of those hidden gems... still, I can still dream can't I? Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: c-man on April 06, 2009, 04:24:30 AM Fox News ran a story on the event last night, with some cool clips of Paul & his band doing "Drive My Car", Ringo & Paul singing "With A Little Help From My Friends", Sheryl Crow and others, and Mike up onstage singing with some other people whom I was too distracted to recognize because Mike was mis-identified as "Brian Wilson". How ironic THAT was!! >:D
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 06, 2009, 10:31:19 AM McCartney tells the same stories all the time he is worse then Love. If I have to hear how John piped in with COuldn't get much worse" for "Getting Better" one more time I swear I will switch to the Rutles for good. Exactly, although I blame that on the interviewers asking the same questions over and over again. "What was it like writing with the John Lennon?" :-D Fox News ran a story on the event last night, with some cool clips of Paul & his band doing "Drive My Car", Ringo & Paul singing "With A Little Help From My Friends", Sheryl Crow and others, and Mike up onstage singing with some other people whom I was too distracted to recognize because Mike was mis-identified as "Brian Wilson". How ironic THAT was!! >:D Ouch! Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Dove Nested Towers on April 06, 2009, 03:33:59 PM Fox News ran a story on the event last night, with some cool clips of Paul & his band doing "Drive My Car", Ringo & Paul singing "With A Little Help From My Friends", Sheryl Crow and others, and Mike up onstage singing with some other people whom I was too distracted to recognize because Mike was mis-identified as "Brian Wilson". How ironic THAT was!! >:D That is wild, wild stuff. Oh, the irony! As soon as I stop laughing it'll be time for me to meditate and then we'll have world peace, m'kay? :lol Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Sheriff John Stone on April 06, 2009, 05:23:58 PM McCartney tells the same stories all the time he is worse then Love. If I have to hear how John piped in with COuldn't get much worse" for "Getting Better" one more time I swear I will switch to the Rutles for good. Well there you go. As I say I don't really follow his interviews even though I really like McCartney. Well it doesn't take away that I really hate when Mike talks about the same old things. I know what you mean. I'm starting to think "God Only Knows" is sub-titled "Paul McCartney's Favorite Song". And, don't forget, there's a lot of love in Pet Sounds. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: MBE on April 06, 2009, 08:50:31 PM McCartney tells the same stories all the time he is worse then Love. If I have to hear how John piped in with COuldn't get much worse" for "Getting Better" one more time I swear I will switch to the Rutles for good. Well there you go. As I say I don't really follow his interviews even though I really like McCartney. Well it doesn't take away that I really hate when Mike talks about the same old things. In saying that at least he actually gives more than one word answers :P But I just wish Mike would talk more about his contribution to songs such as All I Wanna Do, She Knows Me Too Well etc.. because when he does he usually has something interesting to say and he is obviously more insightful than Brian. Maybe I am being a little unrealistic though, because most people wouldn't know what Mike was talking about if he mentioned writing some of those hidden gems... still, I can still dream can't I? Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: RickD on April 06, 2009, 11:55:36 PM Pssh, Mike Love has never not looked great... photos please! a turban would be a good place to start ... Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Thunderfingers75 on April 07, 2009, 06:46:25 AM Howard Stern talked yesterday on his show about speaking for a while with Mike at the event. He said that Mike was a stand up guy and that the two had a nice conversation. Howard said that Mike told him thanks for being vocal about TM, that it showed the world that "it wasnt just for pussies".
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 07, 2009, 11:44:55 AM Howard Stern talked yesterday on his show about speaking for a while with Mike at the event. He said that Mike was a stand up guy and that the two had a nice conversation. Howard said that Mike told him thanks for being vocal about TM, that it showed the world that "it wasnt just for pussies". Haha, that's awesome. :-D Personally I think TM is a bit of a scam. Mahesh made it big by pushing the same spirituality found on every street corner in India. "Transcendental meditation" is a marketing name for a very basic and otherwise well-known mantric-based meditation technique. It's not unique to TM or Mahesh. Having to pay to learn it is absurd - I have a manual with over 100 meditation techniques and I bought it for $20. I could make $250,000 if I re-named them with cosmic titles and sold each one to gullible Westerners with a host of "scientists" and "celebrities" backing me with the health benefits. Not to mention what I could earn selling the techniques over and over again at prices of $2500+ each... Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Alex on April 07, 2009, 11:56:24 AM What is the big deal about having a meditation summit?! And why do people need to pay thousands of dollars to basically learn how to sit and relax while chanting random mantras? To me TM seems like nothing but a farce, a scheme that the Maharishi used to make merdaloads of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And the Lovester and Lynch ate it right up! :ahh :o ::) :thud :'(
Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 07, 2009, 12:59:24 PM What is the big deal about having a meditation summit?! And why do people need to pay thousands of dollars to basically learn how to sit and relax while chanting random mantras? To me TM seems like nothing but a farce, a scheme that the Maharishi used to make merdaloads of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And the Lovester and Lynch ate it right up! :ahh :o ::) :thud :'( I think the idea itself is great - meditation is a beautiful thing that could really benefit a lot of people, and celebrating it through such things is good. It's Good Vibrations, Alex. 8) I don't know about Mike Love but David Lynch is an interesting mind. Seen his films? I find it hard to believe that for 32+ years he's been doing TM only (as in, no drugs...). And yet, in many ways, it seems perfectly obvious. His films are like shining light on the unconscious part of the mind - which is something you encounter in meditation. Not to mention that one tends to have more lucid dreams while meditating regularly. Lynch's work often seems like an exploration of the spiritual condition of being 'asleep' while in waking consciousness. Lost in the web of the mind's own spinning. Also a look into the absurdity and sometimes horror of this human condition - being trapped in this body, in this world, in these circumstances - a perspective from a distance, a sort of positive depersonalization that develops through meditation. Anyway, I really like David, and I find the fact that he (says he) hasn't used any drugs except pot a few times to be quite inspirational. A lot of people push the idea that unless you're an avid user of psychedelics you can't open a whole area of creative thought in the mind, and clearly Lynch is an exception to that 'rule'. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Pretty Funky on April 07, 2009, 02:22:56 PM ... and Mike up onstage singing with some other people whom I was too distracted to recognize because Mike was mis-identified as "Brian Wilson". How ironic THAT was!! >:D One story I read re the concert referred to Mike as 'ex Beach Boy'. Oh dear! Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Awesoman on April 07, 2009, 03:28:00 PM What is the big deal about having a meditation summit?! And why do people need to pay thousands of dollars to basically learn how to sit and relax while chanting random mantras? To me TM seems like nothing but a farce, a scheme that the Maharishi used to make merdaloads of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And the Lovester and Lynch ate it right up! :ahh :o ::) :thud :'( I think the idea itself is great - meditation is a beautiful thing that could really benefit a lot of people, and celebrating it through such things is good. It's Good Vibrations, Alex. 8) I don't know about Mike Love but David Lynch is an interesting mind. Seen his films? I find it hard to believe that for 32+ years he's been doing TM only (as in, no drugs...). And yet, in many ways, it seems perfectly obvious. His films are like shining light on the unconscious part of the mind - which is something you encounter in meditation. Not to mention that one tends to have more lucid dreams while meditating regularly. Lynch's work often seems like an exploration of the spiritual condition of being 'asleep' while in waking consciousness. Lost in the web of the mind's own spinning. Also a look into the absurdity and sometimes horror of this human condition - being trapped in this body, in this world, in these circumstances - a perspective from a distance, a sort of positive depersonalization that develops through meditation. Anyway, I really like David, and I find the fact that he (says he) hasn't used any drugs except pot a few times to be quite inspirational. A lot of people push the idea that unless you're an avid user of psychedelics you can't open a whole area of creative thought in the mind, and clearly Lynch is an exception to that 'rule'. I see nothing wrong with meditating or promoting meditation, but a benefit concert for the practice just seems a bit much. Dare I say even a little ridiculous?? It would seem our entertainers are running out of decent "causes" to get so wrapped up about. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 07, 2009, 04:14:48 PM What is the big deal about having a meditation summit?! And why do people need to pay thousands of dollars to basically learn how to sit and relax while chanting random mantras? To me TM seems like nothing but a farce, a scheme that the Maharishi used to make merdaloads of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And the Lovester and Lynch ate it right up! :ahh :o ::) :thud :'( I think the idea itself is great - meditation is a beautiful thing that could really benefit a lot of people, and celebrating it through such things is good. It's Good Vibrations, Alex. 8) I don't know about Mike Love but David Lynch is an interesting mind. Seen his films? I find it hard to believe that for 32+ years he's been doing TM only (as in, no drugs...). And yet, in many ways, it seems perfectly obvious. His films are like shining light on the unconscious part of the mind - which is something you encounter in meditation. Not to mention that one tends to have more lucid dreams while meditating regularly. Lynch's work often seems like an exploration of the spiritual condition of being 'asleep' while in waking consciousness. Lost in the web of the mind's own spinning. Also a look into the absurdity and sometimes horror of this human condition - being trapped in this body, in this world, in these circumstances - a perspective from a distance, a sort of positive depersonalization that develops through meditation. Anyway, I really like David, and I find the fact that he (says he) hasn't used any drugs except pot a few times to be quite inspirational. A lot of people push the idea that unless you're an avid user of psychedelics you can't open a whole area of creative thought in the mind, and clearly Lynch is an exception to that 'rule'. I see nothing wrong with meditating or promoting meditation, but a benefit concert for the practice just seems a bit much. Dare I say even a little ridiculous?? It would seem our entertainers are running out of decent "causes" to get so wrapped up about. It's a very decent cause. It's only ridiculous in a world like ours. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Awesoman on April 08, 2009, 04:45:28 PM It's a very decent cause. It's only ridiculous in a world like ours. Finding cures to such diseases as cancer and AIDS; that's a decent cause. Ending poverty and combating terrorism; these are also decent causes. Sitting down and meditating in your living room...not so much. And we don't need a benefit concert for that. But I'll agree to disagree with you. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Jonathan Blum on April 08, 2009, 06:34:52 PM Finding cures to such diseases as cancer and AIDS; that's a decent cause. Ending poverty and combating terrorism; these are also decent causes. Sitting down and meditating in your living room...not so much. To be fair, the more time potential terrorists spend meditating, the less likely they are to be blowing things up. :-) Cheers, Jon Blum Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: the captain on April 08, 2009, 06:44:20 PM ... a benefit concert for the practice just seems a bit much. Dare I say even a little ridiculous?? It would seem our entertainers are running out of decent "causes" to get so wrapped up about. I don't see how it's any different than the concerts religious groups have put on for, well, pretty much as long as we've had recorded history. People ask for money for what they do or believe in. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 08, 2009, 08:37:57 PM It's a very decent cause. It's only ridiculous in a world like ours. Finding cures to such diseases as cancer and AIDS; that's a decent cause. Ending poverty and combating terrorism; these are also decent causes. Sitting down and meditating in your living room...not so much. And we don't need a benefit concert for that. But I'll agree to disagree with you. I don't think you know the importance of the inner world. How do you make a unified earth? Fulfilling the needs of the inner-world so that external happenings can be dealt with more fairly and with more insight. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: c-man on April 09, 2009, 05:13:39 AM Finding cures to such diseases as cancer and AIDS; that's a decent cause. Ending poverty and combating terrorism; these are also decent causes. Sitting down and meditating in your living room...not so much. To be fair, the more time potential terrorists spend meditating, the less likely they are to be blowing things up. :-) Cheers, Jon Blum Not to mention the hoped-for outcome that a million "at risk" youths will turn from a potential destiny of drugs & gang violence to something much more benign. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Alex on April 09, 2009, 12:32:15 PM What is the big deal about having a meditation summit?! And why do people need to pay thousands of dollars to basically learn how to sit and relax while chanting random mantras? To me TM seems like nothing but a farce, a scheme that the Maharishi used to make merdaloads of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And the Lovester and Lynch ate it right up! :ahh :o ::) :thud :'( I think the idea itself is great - meditation is a beautiful thing that could really benefit a lot of people, and celebrating it through such things is good. It's Good Vibrations, Alex. 8) I don't know about Mike Love but David Lynch is an interesting mind. Seen his films? I find it hard to believe that for 32+ years he's been doing TM only (as in, no drugs...). And yet, in many ways, it seems perfectly obvious. His films are like shining light on the unconscious part of the mind - which is something you encounter in meditation. Not to mention that one tends to have more lucid dreams while meditating regularly. Lynch's work often seems like an exploration of the spiritual condition of being 'asleep' while in waking consciousness. Lost in the web of the mind's own spinning. Also a look into the absurdity and sometimes horror of this human condition - being trapped in this body, in this world, in these circumstances - a perspective from a distance, a sort of positive depersonalization that develops through meditation. Anyway, I really like David, and I find the fact that he (says he) hasn't used any drugs except pot a few times to be quite inspirational. A lot of people push the idea that unless you're an avid user of psychedelics you can't open a whole area of creative thought in the mind, and clearly Lynch is an exception to that 'rule'. I've got nothing against meditation itself. It's just that it seems so simple to do that I wouldn't need to pay $$$ out my ass to be taught how to do it by a huckster who claims to be wise and all-knowing. I'm not cynical, I'm just skeptical of cults, religions, etc. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 09, 2009, 04:04:59 PM What is the big deal about having a meditation summit?! And why do people need to pay thousands of dollars to basically learn how to sit and relax while chanting random mantras? To me TM seems like nothing but a farce, a scheme that the Maharishi used to make merdaloads of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And the Lovester and Lynch ate it right up! :ahh :o ::) :thud :'( I think the idea itself is great - meditation is a beautiful thing that could really benefit a lot of people, and celebrating it through such things is good. It's Good Vibrations, Alex. 8) I don't know about Mike Love but David Lynch is an interesting mind. Seen his films? I find it hard to believe that for 32+ years he's been doing TM only (as in, no drugs...). And yet, in many ways, it seems perfectly obvious. His films are like shining light on the unconscious part of the mind - which is something you encounter in meditation. Not to mention that one tends to have more lucid dreams while meditating regularly. Lynch's work often seems like an exploration of the spiritual condition of being 'asleep' while in waking consciousness. Lost in the web of the mind's own spinning. Also a look into the absurdity and sometimes horror of this human condition - being trapped in this body, in this world, in these circumstances - a perspective from a distance, a sort of positive depersonalization that develops through meditation. Anyway, I really like David, and I find the fact that he (says he) hasn't used any drugs except pot a few times to be quite inspirational. A lot of people push the idea that unless you're an avid user of psychedelics you can't open a whole area of creative thought in the mind, and clearly Lynch is an exception to that 'rule'. I've got nothing against meditation itself. It's just that it seems so simple to do that I wouldn't need to pay $$$ out my ass to be taught how to do it by a huckster who claims to be wise and all-knowing. I'm not cynical, I'm just skeptical of cults, religions, etc. Yeah, I agree about the money. Although... I do like the idea that in this sort of culture where worth is often calculated by monetary cost people 'out there' will pay to learn something as neat as meditation. To me it represents a change in values. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 09, 2009, 04:26:24 PM btw
I still find it so cool that Lynch is into all of this. Anyone who has seen his films would probably never guess that he was into something like meditation. Although, once you find out he is the interpretation of a lot of his films can take on a whole other meaning. Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Rocky on April 09, 2009, 05:05:35 PM Quote One story I read re the concert referred to Mike as 'ex Beach Boy'. Oh dear! if Mike finds out who it was he'll sue. I swear he will!!!Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: Alex on April 10, 2009, 11:02:21 AM Quote One story I read re the concert referred to Mike as 'ex Beach Boy'. Oh dear! if Mike finds out who it was he'll sue. I swear he will!!!...Let's get together and sue him again! Do do do ba ba ba... Title: Re: Mike at David Lynch's TM Summit Today Post by: sofonanm on April 10, 2009, 11:36:54 AM Quote One story I read re the concert referred to Mike as 'ex Beach Boy'. Oh dear! if Mike finds out who it was he'll sue. I swear he will!!!...Let's get together and sue him again! Do do do ba ba ba... :lol |