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The two songs that Brian wrote and recorded for Jasper Dailey in 1967, "Crack the Whip" and "When I Get Mad I Just Play My Drums", have they been booted? Has anyone heard them? What do they sound like? Smile-ish?

There's also a song called "Teeter Totter Love," somewhere in those vaults. Highly doubt any of the Jasper stuff will see the light of day.

Jasper, bless his memory, was a sweet man... and possibly the least talented singer I've ever heard.

Teeter Totter love goes up
Teeter Totter love goes down
When I went up my Baby went up
Then she came down and I went flyin' off

Brilliant lyrics, dontyathink?  ;D

I swear back in the early days of the SMiLE shop, someone posted on there talking about how they had heard the acetate of that. Then again, I remember a post from someone claiming to have heard the entire 'Barnyard Suite' featuring 'Barnyard Billy' himself.

Teeter Totter love was on Youtube a while back.. not sure if it's still up there?

Pretty sure that particular recording was an old doo-wop song, not anything to do with BW.

Ah righteo... I wasn't really sure if it was legit

I remember getting in an argument with the guy that posted those Remember the Zoo videos, specifically with Teeter Totter Love, saying that he's just confusing people. And this all leads back to AGD having it in the Unreleased Album section on his website, which is what inspired the guy to post those videos in the first place. It was never a Beach Boys album and people continuously referring to it "just for history" end up doing more damage and spreading more rumors. Any reference to it on the net, even THIS ONE, just serves to confuse people.

If you're reading this, Andrew, no offense, but we share a common goal - to stop people from thinking Remember the Zoo is real. We just have different ideas of how that should be done and I respect your way of doing so.

Does that mean that you've heard Crack the Whip and When I Get Mad? Was the music better than the singing?

'Course, if he'd bothered to read the whole thing, he'd know it's a hoax.  ;D

For future reference, I'm contemplating a BB "mthys & legends" section, and will definitely relocate Remember The Zoo there.

And then we'll have world peace...

The tracks were laid down by The Crew... but even they couldn't cover for Jasper's voice. He was a lovely man, generous to a fault... but couldn't carry a tune iffn you sewed handles on it. I'm minded of Florence Foster Jenkins.

Teeter Totter Love is a chant, not unlike You're Welcome, with the vocal being pretty much unlistenable. Jasper played it for me a few times back in the day. It has the chimes in it that You're Welcome has.

I would LOVE to hear it. You're Welcome is beautiful, and i'm a fan of people singing who can't sing "well". Like Dylan. And BW2008.

I think that there are a couple of different types of 'not singing well'. The first is somebody like Dylan, who doesn't sound all that great, yet has a certain charm. The second type ( I imagine) is like Jasper, where it sounds horrible and no amount of great music or studio trickery can make it sound halfway decent.

Those songs really sound interesting! But here is the crucial question: Is his voice even worse than that of Dick "Stella By Starlight" Reynolds?  :)

Oh yes.

 :o

Well, guess what? We've finally got Teeter-Totter Love!

"Teeter Totter Love" is a milestone from the SMiLE sessions!

Why?

It has vocals and it's finished!

I did laugh hysterically for quite some time at it, but my god. It's TERRIBLE  :lol

I love the fact that this thread was found instead of starting a new one. I remember reading this one and I was thinking, man I bet these guys are just being harsh (especially AGD, we all know how HE is! ;))

But, my lord. I've gone through Discs 1-4 over and over and over all week...and to this day I dont think Ive gone through Teeter through the whole way...maybe once, but I was probably influenced...

I made a CD for the car and put Teeter Totter Love on 4 times in a row.

I don't think anything can bring me down so long as I've got that song playing in the background.

wow thosee vocals are pretty bad (no offence to the guy singing) :o :o

I think it' better than Battle Hymn of the Republic.  Kind of a Spike Jones thing going on.

Say what you want, but I love Brian's kooky arrangement for the song.

It shows how, at this point, Brian could do anything that he felt like musically. I forget that, because all the Smile music is psychedelic/esoteric/mystical/classical. But if Brian wanted, he could've successfully been making cheesy '60s teeny pop tunes that would've charted.  That said, "Teeter Totter Love" could've used a bridge or something to make it seem more like a real song. It's basically that same 20 second section repeating over and over. Like "Fall Breaks", but cheerily mad instead of hauntingly mad.

I like this song. It sounds like an early 60s bubblegum novelty hit, sung by a punk rock singer.

I heard it online, though I don't have the boxed set yet.  It creeped me out a little because Jasper's voice reminds me of Murry.

The track is awesome and groovy, and obviously the singing is awful but in a humorous way.  Those lyrics are just horrendous though!  I doubt Brian took more than 30 seconds to think of those.

Too bad an acetate was the only source they had, I would have loved to hear that track sans vocals.

That being said they still have some of that sardonic SMiLE wit to them.  I mean the images of someone flying off a teeter totter isn't too far removed from the image of someone eating a candy bar wrapper. 

In a way, Teeter Totter Love has been one of the highlights for me because it is one of those long lost tracks I thought I would never ever hear. And it was recorded at a key time for Smile, when the album was starting to fall apart and deadlines were being missed. I think I heard someplace that Brian took the 3 songs to a record company and the suits were less than amused.

Agreed, it's great to finally hear it. My first thought on hearing the vocals was that it sounded like a parody of Jim Ford (whose voice I really like)!

Im thinking Brian got his "Faraway Land Of Night / Child of Winter" voice from Jasper.

Yes!  I thought it was hysterical.  One of my favorite tracks on the box set.

Can't recall where I read it, but did Mike maybe come up with those lyrics? I could swear that, at the least, the idea of "teeter totter love" was his idea.

The overall sound, to me, is like late 50s/early 60s Disney version of rock and roll--like something you'd see in one of those cheap comedies (no, I'm not referring to "The Monkey's Uncle" in this case): goofy instrumentation, nothing especially hard-hitting...

"Lyrics & music by Brian Wilson", according to the Smile Sessions book.

Anyone know if "Crack The Whip," and "When I Get Mad I Just Play My Drums," are still in existence?  I would love to hear those too, but probably would never get released.

Then she came down, and I went flyin' OFF

Jasper didn't have them in 1985 - just "T-TL".

Not sure it sounds like Murry, but I think it sounds like the kind of thing that Murry might have enjoyed listening to, and perhaps the kind of thing he might have aspired to composing.

And I can't help but think that Brian has a very soft spot for that kinda music - I mean, the music his father would have liked. The big band stuff of Life is For the Living, right through to the recent Gershwin thing.  Do we all have this tendency to adopt our parents' likes/ Will I be buying Shirley Bassey records in a decade or two???

Are the backing tracks still available, at least?

Nope - even "Teeter Totter Love" was sourced from an acetate.  None of the multis are known to exist.

Well, he uses a pied piper-like voice in the original Little St. Nick
He probably got that in childhood

I thought Jasper's wife had a tape. Is that another thing that did not pan out?

Do you think, now that this song is available, that whoever thought up the faux "Remember The Zoo?" tracklist regrets including it? :-P

Damn... if that album did exist, side 2 would've been NUTS.  "Tones", a 1966 version of "He Couldn't Get His Poor Old Body To Move", "Teeter Totter Love", a Tomorrow Never Knows-type track with animal noises over it.... and people questioned Smile?!

I finally received my box set on xmas and i got around to listening to Teeter Totter Love lastnight. Personally, i love it. I played it for my girlfriend today in the car and she too loved it. She said it reminded her of Sesame Street.

Yeah, I really like it too for that same reason!

Apparently, the "Teeter Totter Love" acetate was obtained from Marylin Rovell's present-day husband.

That would make sense, because the tape copy of the acetate appears on page x of "The Smile File" with the caption "One that got away", by that patronizing author of children's books who also apparently regularly crosses the line, Dwight Cavanagh.

Check out your parent's likes; it might not be a bad thing.  Two great albums that Shirley did with the amazing arranger Johnny Harris are: SOMETHING & SOMETING ELSE.

LOL funniest post of the year!

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All 3 of Jasper's tunes were humorous  chants . Brian took  them to A&M  and as a put on tried to sell Jasper as a recording artist. The 3 tunes were humorous cyclical chants...vocals almost ulistenable!