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Title: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: donald on October 13, 2008, 11:57:08 AM
I have tickets to see these guys......finally decided to go see them after stubbornly refusing since the departure of Al.

A lot of good people on the boards have suggested seeing them as it is a good show and it is, after all, the music of the BeachBoys.


I'm wondering what songs to expect and who is in the current line up, what they play, and which vocal parts they are covering.

Anyone care to bring me up to date?

Edit

OK.  Just read Eric A's post on recent setlists.   Thanks.   Very thorough!!  And good to see they are mixing it up a bit.

Still, I'd like to know a little about the band, what parts they cover and so on. ;)


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Alex on October 13, 2008, 02:30:11 PM
Obviously, there's Mike and Bruce. I believe the rest of the band consists of Scott Totten, Christian Love, John Cowsill, Tim Bonhomme, Randall Kirsch, and Chris Farmer, and formerly featured David Marks, Mike Kowalski, Adrian Baker, and Mike Meros. (not to mention Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, Blondie, Ricky, Daryl Dragon, Billy Hinsche, Ron Brown, Ed Carter, Carli Munoz, Dennis Dragon, Robert Kenyatta, Bobby Figeuroa, Ron Altbach, Richie Kannatta, Joe Chemay, Jeff Foskett, and Matt Jardine)


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Eric Aniversario on October 13, 2008, 05:16:52 PM
Obviously, there's Mike and Bruce. I believe the rest of the band consists of Scott Totten, Christian Love, John Cowsill, Tim Bonhomme, Randall Kirsch, and Chris Farmer, and formerly featured David Marks, Mike Kowalski, Adrian Baker, and Mike Meros. (not to mention Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al, Blondie, Ricky, Daryl Dragon, Billy Hinsche, Ron Brown, Ed Carter, Carli Munoz, Dennis Dragon, Robert Kenyatta, Bobby Figeuroa, Ron Altbach, Richie Kannatta, Joe Chemay, Jeff Foskett, and Matt Jardine)
Chris Farmer left the band shortly after Mike Kowalski did, too.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Aegir on October 13, 2008, 10:48:40 PM
Current lineup:
Mike Love
Bruce Johnston - keyboard
Scott Totten - guitar
Christian Love - guitar
Tim Bonhomme - keyboard
Randell Kirsch - bass
John Cowsill - drums

They all sing except maybe Tim Bonhomme. Tim usually has a microphone set up in front of him but I've never seen him use it.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Bicyclerider on October 14, 2008, 12:44:16 AM
Who's doing the falsetto parts?


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Aegir on October 14, 2008, 01:47:36 AM
Randell Kirsch does most of them.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Scott on October 14, 2008, 07:08:32 AM
Eric has the current line-up correct.  Randell is the main falsettist, although I do some of it and Bruce and I cover all the extremely high parts.  Tim sings on Getcha Back and he actually knows almost all the parts so he's our utility guy in case someone is sick.

So a typical vocal stack for us is
Randell - False
Scott - Hi Tenor
Bruce - mid tenor
Christian - lower tenor/Baritone
Mike - Bass

Donald, which show are you coming to?  If it's in Dec, I am just now working out the Christmas songs.  If it's next week, I may be able to get a few rarities in there since we are doing some performing arts centers. 
Anyway, I am sure you will have a great time.

Scott


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: smile-holland on October 14, 2008, 07:36:58 AM
Donald, which show are you coming to?  If it's in Dec, I am just now working out the Christmas songs.  If it's next week, I may be able to get a few rarities in there since we are doing some performing arts centers. 
Anyway, I am sure you will have a great time.

Scott

Rarities? Darn! Sometimes I wish I was born in Californ-i-a.... chances to get a show like that in Europe are minimal unfortunately.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Dave in KC on October 16, 2008, 11:56:28 AM
Scott, my wife and I are going to your concert this Sunday here in KC. PLEASE surprise the hell out of me and do some rarities. I am a long time fan with an inordinate number of shows under my belt. Maybe Bruce could do Disney Girls? Anyway, have a safe trip to the Heartland! Until Sunday evening then.......


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: donald on October 17, 2008, 09:03:08 AM
Eric has the current line-up correct.  Randell is the main falsettist, although I do some of it and Bruce and I cover all the extremely high parts.  Tim sings on Getcha Back and he actually knows almost all the parts so he's our utility guy in case someone is sick.

So a typical vocal stack for us is
Randell - False
Scott - Hi Tenor
Bruce - mid tenor
Christian - lower tenor/Baritone
Mike - Bass

Donald, which show are you coming to?  If it's in Dec, I am just now working out the Christmas songs.  If it's next week, I may be able to get a few rarities in there since we are doing some performing arts centers. 
Anyway, I am sure you will have a great time.

Scott

Thanks Scott!   I'll be at the Paramount Performing Arts Center 10-25, Sturday evening.  Although I've been to a couple of Brian's shows,   I haven't seen the BeachBoys since Carl died.  I'm actually quite excited to see Mike, Bruce, and company again.

 


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Don't Back Down on October 17, 2008, 10:51:43 AM
I'll be at the Paramount Arts Center show as well! would love to hear some rarities :) donald - want to meet at the venue before the show?


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Scott on October 17, 2008, 11:41:45 AM
Scott, my wife and I are going to your concert this Sunday here in KC. PLEASE surprise the hell out of me and do some rarities. I am a long time fan with an inordinate number of shows under my belt. Maybe Bruce could do Disney Girls? Anyway, have a safe trip to the Heartland! Until Sunday evening then.......

Hi Dave-

The problem is that it's a casino show.  It's not practical to do "rarities" at that kind of show...I think I can promise you Betsy but beyond that I don't know.  I think you will still have a good time anyway!

Scott


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Steve Mayo on October 17, 2008, 01:22:51 PM
Eric has the current line-up correct.  Randell is the main falsettist, although I do some of it and Bruce and I cover all the extremely high parts.  Tim sings on Getcha Back and he actually knows almost all the parts so he's our utility guy in case someone is sick.

So a typical vocal stack for us is
Randell - False
Scott - Hi Tenor
Bruce - mid tenor
Christian - lower tenor/Baritone
Mike - Bass

Donald, which show are you coming to?  If it's in Dec, I am just now working out the Christmas songs.  If it's next week, I may be able to get a few rarities in there since we are doing some performing arts centers. 
Anyway, I am sure you will have a great time.

Scott

Thanks Scott!   I'll be at the Paramount Performing Arts Center 10-25, Sturday evening.  Although I've been to a couple of Brian's shows,   I haven't seen the BeachBoys since Carl died.  I'm actually quite excited to see Mike, Bruce, and company again.

 

i should be there also. i grew up in ashland, dad still lives there. i live just across the ohio river in ironton, oh now. last time i saw them was when they played summer motion in ashland back in 2003 or so.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Don't Back Down on October 17, 2008, 01:59:16 PM
Cool, Steve! We should all have a Smiley Board meet-up before the show.

I've seen the Beach Boys band in 1999 - 2005 - 2007 (Brian in 2006 and now next month 2008) and they've all been fun, and very good shows. My favorite had to be last year's because the energy was great from the band & the audience. I'm stoked for next weekend (especially with some potential rarities :))!


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Custom Machine on October 17, 2008, 10:03:40 PM
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The problem is that it's a casino show.  It's not practical to do "rarities" at that kind of show...I think I can promise you Betsy but beyond that I don't know.  I think you will still have a good time anyway!

Scott - I'm really enjoying your posts.  I generally see you guys at least once a year, most often at Humphrey's in San Diego.  Having heard lots of same songs year after year, I appreciate a fresh setlist that includes as many "rarities" as possible.

Here are a few questions I have:

(1)  What is it that makes a casino show less ideal for rarities?  Am I correct in assuming it may be the overall clientele?  But, having seen Brian Wilson at a casino concert, I can attest to the fact that there were many hardcore fans in attendance there.  What types of venues are more conducive to rarities, and which are less so?  How does Humphrey's in San Diego compare in this regard?

(2)  I have noticed a huge difference in concert length depending on the venue.  What factors account for this difference?

(3)  The BB's setlist has definitely improved with the addition of lesser known songs. Are you the main person responsible for the overall setlist and the addition of "rarities"?




Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: 49ersphil on October 18, 2008, 08:17:39 AM
I saw M & B's Boys in Manchester UK in April of this year and was very pleasantly surprised by both the performance and the setlist.

They played 53 songs to a very appreciative audience and some of the more surprising (to me) songs played were;

Don't Back Down, Good Timin', Good To My Baby, Forever (David Marks:vox), Ole Betsy, Sail On Sailor, All This Is That and 'Til I Die.

Before attending I was firmly in the "Brian" camp and take a more balanced view now.

I would very happily attend shows of either act now.
   



Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Scott on October 18, 2008, 09:55:05 AM
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The problem is that it's a casino show.  It's not practical to do "rarities" at that kind of show...I think I can promise you Betsy but beyond that I don't know.  I think you will still have a good time anyway!

Scott - I'm really enjoying your posts.  I generally see you guys at least once a year, most often at Humphrey's in San Diego.  Having heard lots of same songs year after year, I appreciate a fresh setlist that includes as many "rarities" as possible.

Here are a few questions I have:

(1)  What is it that makes a casino show less ideal for rarities?  Am I correct in assuming it may be the overall clientele?  But, having seen Brian Wilson at a casino concert, I can attest to the fact that there were many hardcore fans in attendance there.  What types of venues are more conducive to rarities, and which are less so?  How does Humphrey's in San Diego compare in this regard?

(2)  I have noticed a huge difference in concert length depending on the venue.  What factors account for this difference?

(3)  The BB's setlist has definitely improved with the addition of lesser known songs. Are you the main person responsible for the overall setlist and the addition of "rarities"?


Great post and thanks for the questions...I hope I can answer them for you all.

1) A casino show has 3 types of people in the audience.  Some go to the casino to see the Beach Boys, and they stay and gamble - or some are going to gamble, and they decide to see the Beach Boys.  Or, the casino gives BB show tickets to it's VIP players.  So not many of the attendees have even heard of a song like Betsy or even Good Timin.  To further complicate matters, the casinos nearly always ask for a short show...generally 75-90 minutes.  They don't like it if we go longer, because their goal is to get the audience back to the casino to gamble.  Now if we only get to play 75 minutes, we HAVE to play as many hits as we can squeeze into that time.  To put in a rarity would mean dropping something like Rhonda.  One of the greatest regrets of mine is that we had to drop Sloop john B in Brighton last April because we ran into a curfew.

I think the people who go to see a Brian Wilson concert are by definition, hardcore.  Believe it or not, many people who are familiar with and like the Beach Boys can't name a single member of the band!  But the people who go to see Brian know who they are going to see.  Having said that, you may have noticed that Brian is playing fewer and fewer rarities these days as well.  Bottom line is, it's not what the majority of audience members want or expect to hear.  Now my philosophy is to give them several well-known hits and then put in a lesser-known one, and tell them what album it's on, etc. 

2) The overriding factor that determines show length is what the promoter, or venue, wants.  90% of the time it's a 90 minute show.  I can tell you that we always go a little bit over what they request, not out of obstinacy but Mike hates to leave anything out.  I swear if he had his way we would do 2.5 hour shows almost all the time.

Having said that, the type of show is also a factor.  I already outlined the casino shows.  Another type of show is the county or state fair.  Again, don't expect any rarities at this type of event.  People come for the fair, and stay for the show.   Theatres, or Performing Arts Centers, are the best bet for a long show with lots of chestnuts.  The sound is good, the people have seats for the slow songs, they're not as distracted by the beer and pretzel stands, etc.   And the only reason they are there is to see the Beach Boys.

I'm gonna speak out of school here for a minute and tell you guys that Mike goes out of his way to do as long a show as possible.  For instance, many times a theatre will want to have an opening act in order to increase their concessions sales.  But if the opener goes on at 8, and we go on at 8:45, and the theatre closes at 10:00, then we are shortening our show to fit it in.  Mike actually suggests to the venue, we'd rather skip the opening act and give them an intermission for concessions.  That way we get to do 90-100 minutes and everyone is happy.  He wants to give the fans a full show.

3) One hundred percent of the credit for song selection goes to Mike.  I think that may come as a shock to some of you.  I'm sure he and Bruce put their heads together, but Mike is the one who comes to me (or Farmer before me) and says "maybe we can do All This Is That" or whatever.  And we learn them and try them out.  Sometimes, the audience just doesn't respond (Feel Flows comes to mind).  Some we worked up and never got to perform live (I'm gonna keep those to myself in case we do get a chance to do them live).  But the bottom line is, Mike is justly proud of the Beach Boys catalog and he is a big fan of the whole of it.  I know some of you think Mike's motto is Don't F With The Formula but believe me NOTHING could be further from the truth.  I was standing on the side of the stage a few years ago, waiting to go on, and I hear Mike singing 'Wonderful".  I said something like "what a great song" and he went on and on about how beautiful the melody is and he actually got a bit choked up.

Scott


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: art rush on October 18, 2008, 10:01:31 AM
very insightful! we appreciate your posts, scott  ;D
you are most welcome here.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: TdHabib on October 18, 2008, 10:11:46 AM
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The problem is that it's a casino show.  It's not practical to do "rarities" at that kind of show...I think I can promise you Betsy but beyond that I don't know.  I think you will still have a good time anyway!

Scott - I'm really enjoying your posts.  I generally see you guys at least once a year, most often at Humphrey's in San Diego.  Having heard lots of same songs year after year, I appreciate a fresh setlist that includes as many "rarities" as possible.

Here are a few questions I have:I know some of you think Mike's motto is Don't F With The Formula but believe me NOTHING could be further from the truth.  I was standing on the side of the stage a few years ago, waiting to go on, and I hear Mike singing 'Wonderful".  I said something like "what a great song" and he went on and on about how beautiful the melody is and he actually got a bit choked up.

Scott
Sound of jaw hitting floor...


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Custom Machine on October 18, 2008, 10:24:38 AM
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Quote from: Custom Machine on Today at 12:03:40 AM
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The problem is that it's a casino show.  It's not practical to do "rarities" at that kind of show...I think I can promise you Betsy but beyond that I don't know.  I think you will still have a good time anyway!

Scott - I'm really enjoying your posts.  I generally see you guys at least once a year, most often at Humphrey's in San Diego.  Having heard lots of same songs year after year, I appreciate a fresh setlist that includes as many "rarities" as possible.

Here are a few questions I have:

(1)  What is it that makes a casino show less ideal for rarities?  Am I correct in assuming it may be the overall clientele?  But, having seen Brian Wilson at a casino concert, I can attest to the fact that there were many hardcore fans in attendance there.  What types of venues are more conducive to rarities, and which are less so?  How does Humphrey's in San Diego compare in this regard?

(2)  I have noticed a huge difference in concert length depending on the venue.  What factors account for this difference?

(3)  The BB's setlist has definitely improved with the addition of lesser known songs. Are you the main person responsible for the overall setlist and the addition of "rarities"?


Great post and thanks for the questions...I hope I can answer them for you all.

1) A casino show has 3 types of people in the audience.  Some go to the casino to see the Beach Boys, and they stay and gamble - or some are going to gamble, and they decide to see the Beach Boys.  Or, the casino gives BB show tickets to it's VIP players.  So not many of the attendees have even heard of a song like Betsy or even Good Timin.  To further complicate matters, the casinos nearly always ask for a short show...generally 75-90 minutes.  They don't like it if we go longer, because their goal is to get the audience back to the casino to gamble.  Now if we only get to play 75 minutes, we HAVE to play as many hits as we can squeeze into that time.  To put in a rarity would mean dropping something like Rhonda.  One of the greatest regrets of mine is that we had to drop Sloop john B in Brighton last April because we ran into a curfew.

I think the people who go to see a Brian Wilson concert are by definition, hardcore.  Believe it or not, many people who are familiar with and like the Beach Boys can't name a single member of the band!  But the people who go to see Brian know who they are going to see.  Having said that, you may have noticed that Brian is playing fewer and fewer rarities these days as well.  Bottom line is, it's not what the majority of audience members want or expect to hear.  Now my philosophy is to give them several well-known hits and then put in a lesser-known one, and tell them what album it's on, etc.  

2) The overriding factor that determines show length is what the promoter, or venue, wants.  90% of the time it's a 90 minute show.  I can tell you that we always go a little bit over what they request, not out of obstinacy but Mike hates to leave anything out.  I swear if he had his way we would do 2.5 hour shows almost all the time.

Having said that, the type of show is also a factor.  I already outlined the casino shows.  Another type of show is the county or state fair.  Again, don't expect any rarities at this type of event.  People come for the fair, and stay for the show.   Theatres, or Performing Arts Centers, are the best bet for a long show with lots of chestnuts.  The sound is good, the people have seats for the slow songs, they're not as distracted by the beer and pretzel stands, etc.   And the only reason they are there is to see the Beach Boys.

I'm gonna speak out of school here for a minute and tell you guys that Mike goes out of his way to do as long a show as possible.  For instance, many times a theatre will want to have an opening act in order to increase their concessions sales.  But if the opener goes on at 8, and we go on at 8:45, and the theatre closes at 10:00, then we are shortening our show to fit it in.  Mike actually suggests to the venue, we'd rather skip the opening act and give them an intermission for concessions.  That way we get to do 90-100 minutes and everyone is happy.  He wants to give the fans a full show.

3) One hundred percent of the credit for song selection goes to Mike.  I think that may come as a shock to some of you.  I'm sure he and Bruce put their heads together, but Mike is the one who comes to me (or Farmer before me) and says "maybe we can do All This Is That" or whatever.  And we learn them and try them out.  Sometimes, the audience just doesn't respond (Feel Flows comes to mind).  Some we worked up and never got to perform live (I'm gonna keep those to myself in case we do get a chance to do them live).  But the bottom line is, Mike is justly proud of the Beach Boys catalog and he is a big fan of the whole of it.  I know some of you think Mike's motto is Don't F With The Formula but believe me NOTHING could be further from the truth.  I was standing on the side of the stage a few years ago, waiting to go on, and I hear Mike singing 'Wonderful".  I said something like "what a great song" and he went on and on about how beautiful the melody is and he actually got a bit choked up.

Scott

Wow, great post, Scott.  Thanks so much for the detailed info.  You answered questions I had wondered about for ages.  I hope you guys keep the lesser known stuff coming.  For those of you who have never seen Mike and Bruce's current version of The Beach Boys, all I can say is that I have always thoroughly enjoyed their shows.  Scott, do you know if David Marks will ever be touring with you in the southern California area?  Over the years I've met Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike, Al, and Bruce, but I've never even seen David in concert.  I see he did some British shows with you, so I'm wondering if he does others as well.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Cam Mott on October 18, 2008, 10:32:09 AM
Scott, please keep it comin'; much appreciate hearing this side of things Beach Boy. Thanks.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Alex on October 18, 2008, 11:12:04 AM
Maybe Mike's not as bad of a guy as people make him out to be. Maybe the whole "arrogant d*ckhead" thing is just a public face...or maybe not. Maybe VDP should've stood up for himself when Mike asked him what "over and over the crow cries..." meant. I had a boss at a job I used to work at who would purposely confront people and act "bitchy". She had this weird thing where she would give tremendous respect to the people who stood up to her when she was "bitchy". Maybe the Lovester is/was that type of a person...maybe he honestly didn't know what the words meant. His concerns probably were legitimate...unfortunately VDP took it personally. This doesn't mean I agree with Love now. I'm still a Brian-ista, and a Beach Boys reunion would probably be a disaster...too many clashing egos. And I still think consider the "actual" Beach Boys to be a "dead" group, having been slowly dying since the collapse of the SMiLE project, suffering many blows (shelving of SMiLE, Brian's descent into mental illness and substance abuse, departures of Blondie Chaplin, Ricky Fataar, and manager Jack Reiley, death of Murry, release of 15 Big Ones instead of something more in the vein of Holland, release of MIU instead of Adult Child, Brian's second descent into drugs, Dennis' and Carl's descents into substance abuse, death of Dennis, cheesy live shows and cheesy image throughout 80s and 90s, release of Still Cruisin' and Summer in Paradise, death of Carl...). Maybe Mike has come to appreciate some of the "weirder" stuff in the Beach Boys' catalog during recent years...maybe he always liked the weird stuff but just didn't think casual fans would've liked it, maybe I sound like I'm on crack.

Whatever Mike Love thinks, he isn't fooling us with his hat collection.  :) :) :) ;D :-DWe know he's been bald since the 60s, and now he's at that age where baldness is normal and people won't think twice if they see him without a hat on. :) :)


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: donald on October 20, 2008, 07:29:11 PM
Baldness normal????    HOORAY!!!!!

Are you sure?     How do they sell so much rogaine and what about that hair club for men?

Is baldness normal for girls too? 

Mike doesn't want to look like Terry Bradshaws older brother...that is why he persists with the caps!

The media would have you think it is the equivalent of a deformity.  Worse than selling tit jobs!!!


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Dancing Bear on October 20, 2008, 08:22:44 PM
Heck, at least Mike never wore a wig.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4187GWVDS4L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
Rock trivia: which one of these fine Englishmen is bald?


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 21, 2008, 01:41:16 AM
Hollies.Drummer. Bobby Elliott. Top right.

http://www.hollies.co.uk/bandprofilebobelliott.html


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: shelter on October 21, 2008, 03:33:24 AM
Scott, do you think there's a chance that we'll get to see the Beach Boys Band on the European mainland in the not too distant future?


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Dave in KC on October 21, 2008, 01:49:38 PM
Enjoyed the show in Kansas City Scott. Good job. One big plus and then a minus if I may. Wow, it has been awhile since I heard Still Cruisin' in concert. I was awestruck. Obviously the plus. But now the minus and this was as obvious as the nose on my face. The first song, California Girls, was sooo sloooww. Not good right out of the gate. Make any sense? Why the slow tempo?


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: CosmicDancer on October 21, 2008, 02:50:37 PM
Damn!  All this talk of rarities makes me really regret not being able to attend the show here in my hometown (Knoxville, TN) on Thursday night.  My finances just won't allow it right now.  The guys are playing at a very lovely theater in town.  Scott, I hope you all enjoy your time here.  Any chance you can leave me two tickets at the box office!!!  ;D  Just kidding. 


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Scott on October 21, 2008, 09:06:34 PM
Enjoyed the show in Kansas City Scott. Good job. One big plus and then a minus if I may. Wow, it has been awhile since I heard Still Cruisin' in concert. I was awestruck. Obviously the plus. But now the minus and this was as obvious as the nose on my face. The first song, California Girls, was sooo sloooww. Not good right out of the gate. Make any sense? Why the slow tempo?

Hi Dave-

Thanks for coming to the show and for your comments.  I just checked my showtape against the record and we were 3bpm too slow.  (113 vs. 116).  No reason other than we're just human.  I will give Cowsill 40 lashes!

Scott


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: carl r on October 22, 2008, 07:02:48 AM
I would also love to see the band on mainland Europe.

It's great you're here. But I imagine lots of people here would love Mike to drop by every now and then. I'm sure we'd all be on good behaviour if he did, though I only speak for myself of course, and we'd all have a lot of questions, mainly of the who-did-what type of variety. Don't know if you could pass an invite on... I also hope writing this doesn't offend anyone.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Cowsii on October 22, 2008, 07:13:57 AM
Oh Sure...throw me to the wolves...you cad...lol I'll take no more than 20 lashes


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: smile-holland on October 22, 2008, 08:35:58 AM
Oh Sure...throw me to the wolves...you cad...lol I'll take no more than 20 lashes

We get a new Beach Boys band-members here each week!  :o



Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Dave in KC on October 22, 2008, 08:58:37 AM
I must reply. John, didn't mean to get you in trouble. You were awesome Sunday night in your bubble. I really mean it. You get better every time I see you. As for the bpm aspect that I caught, is this something that decades of seeing California Girls performed live causes? Scott? I mean, the music lives in my head.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Scott on October 22, 2008, 01:05:23 PM
I must reply. John, didn't mean to get you in trouble. You were awesome Sunday night in your bubble. I really mean it. You get better every time I see you. As for the bpm aspect that I caught, is this something that decades of seeing California Girls performed live causes? Scott? I mean, the music lives in my head.

Are you saying that you were expectng the old live version, which is certainly faster than the record?

All I'm saying is that because we are human and therefore imperfect, one night a certain tempo will be one click too slow, one night right on and one night one click too fast.  It's the nature of seeing a live show. 

The music lives in my head too!

Scott


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: roll plymouth rock on October 22, 2008, 08:20:32 PM
Its really nice to see Beach Boys posting here, just as it is nice seeing Bruce posting over on the BBB board. Saw The Beach Boys last couple times they rolled through Alberta and was thoroughly impressed! Can't wait for you guys to get back up here to Calgary with John on the skins!!!


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: CosmicDancer on October 23, 2008, 06:34:48 AM
My girlfriend and I will be attending the show tonight here in Knoxville, TN despite the fact that I really shouldn't have spent the extra money on tickets.  I couldn't help myself!! 

Scott or John, is there anyway that you all could play one (or more!) of the following songs:  Forever, Good Timin', Little Honda, or Don't Back Down?  I don't know if you all have arrangements worked up for any of those at this time, so if you can't, no worries.  I just thought I would throw out a request!!  I've seen Brian, but never Mike and Bruce, so I'm looking forward to this!


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Rich Panteluk on October 23, 2008, 06:59:16 AM
Hey Love and Mercy!

Nice to see a fellow Calgarian on the board.  Are you going to the Cowsills show on Friday night here?  Should be great.  I miss Billy Cowsill (saw him live about 25- 30 times here - one of the best live singers EVER - scary good), but even if John Cowsill doesn't make it (I think he will be in Danville, KY) I hear Bob, Paul an Susan Cowsill put on a great show.  Can't Wait!

I agree, it really is great to have Scott and John posting here!  Bring the whole band by!  You guys put on such a great show.  And I love it when the setlist gets adventurous.

Cheers,
Rich Panteluk


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Wilsonista on October 23, 2008, 08:55:31 AM
At the risk of  jacking the thread, I have to say this.

"Poor Baby"  by the Cowsills rocks my world! Totally.

OK back to the regular diuscussion


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Rich Panteluk on October 23, 2008, 10:40:28 AM
Hey RobMac,

Jack away!  Poor Baby is a brilliant tune.  The accapella break is jaw-droppingly good.  Like the Beach Boys  - the Cowsills could really deliver great vocal arrangments and performances.



Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Scott on October 23, 2008, 11:17:08 AM
My girlfriend and I will be attending the show tonight here in Knoxville, TN despite the fact that I really shouldn't have spent the extra money on tickets.  I couldn't help myself!! 

Scott or John, is there anyway that you all could play one (or more!) of the following songs:  Forever, Good Timin', Little Honda, or Don't Back Down?  I don't know if you all have arrangements worked up for any of those at this time, so if you can't, no worries.  I just thought I would throw out a request!!  I've seen Brian, but never Mike and Bruce, so I'm looking forward to this!

I'll see what I can do!

Scott


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: shelter on October 23, 2008, 02:53:39 PM
So... No plans for a European tour?  :-[


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Don't Back Down on October 23, 2008, 03:12:59 PM
Scott and/or John: I can't wait to see you guys this Saturday at the Arts Center in Ashland, KY. Any chance for the following tunes to be performed: Don't Back Down/'Til I Die/Sail On Sailor/The Little Girl I Once Knew/Good To My Baby/(and maybe even Heroes and Villains?) Thanks in advance!


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: donald on October 23, 2008, 06:35:23 PM
Don't Back Down:

Ill be at the starbucks 1/2 block west of the paramount at 7:15 Saturday nite with my wife to meet up with my brother from Ohio before the show.
See you there?  I will wear a 25 anniversary BB badge on my shirt/jacket.......look for the 50 something couple looking (something) like Mike Meros and Dianne Keaton.


I know there was someone else from here that mentioned meeting at the show...who was that?   Lets all get together for a few minutes at least if we can!


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Don't Back Down on October 24, 2008, 06:07:46 AM
hey donald: I posted in your thread but I'll post here as well. but yeah I'd like to get together it all depends on when we're leaving.

Steve Mayo was the other one who said he was going so it would be cool to meet you guys!


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Steve Mayo on October 24, 2008, 06:31:06 AM
i will be there at 715pm.....
be looking for you all....
not sure what i will be wearing but i will post tomorrow.......


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: donald on October 24, 2008, 10:19:29 AM
Sounds good.  Looking forward to this more than I thought I wood.   Been a long time since I saw Bruce and the Lovester.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: CosmicDancer on October 24, 2008, 11:34:34 AM
I saw the guys last night here in Knoxville, TN.  It was a great show!!  Scott, thanks for getting two of my requests in there!!  The show had plenty of rarities and deep cuts.  This isn't the "greatest hits" show that I went in expecting.  I don't remember the complete setlist, but we were treated to:  Don't Back Down, Sail on Sailor, All This is That, Ballad of Ol' Betsy, Their Hearts Were Full of Spring, She's Not the Little Girl I Once Knew, Wendy, You're So Good to Me, Darlin', and Do It Again amongst all of the other obvious mega hits.  Very cool show!  Thanks John and Scott and any other band member that may be reading.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: Dave in KC on October 25, 2008, 11:10:06 AM
Cosmic, please desribe the venue for me. The show I saw last Sunday night was at a casino and we sure didn't get many of those songs you listed. Not happy about that! From what Scott has said here, the casino shows are different than a theatre or such. Just interested so I can post a follow up.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: CosmicDancer on October 26, 2008, 07:33:17 PM
Cosmic, please desribe the venue for me. The show I saw last Sunday night was at a casino and we sure didn't get many of those songs you listed. Not happy about that! From what Scott has said here, the casino shows are different than a theatre or such. Just interested so I can post a follow up.

The show was at the Tennessee Theater here in Knoxville, TN.  It is an absolutely gorgeous old theater that may seat about 2000 at the most, maybe less.  I'm not really sure.  The theater was renovated a few years ago and a sound team came in to make sure it would sound incredible.  I'm not sure what all they did, but it worked!!  It seems to be a favorite for most artists that visit.  When I saw Elvis Costello there, he kept going on about how great it sounded and how lovely it was.  At the Beach Boys show, Bruce mentioned a couple of times how great it was to be playing in our beautiful theater.  It's definitely a different setting than a casino would be.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: donald on October 27, 2008, 07:08:20 AM
Mike spoke favorably about the old Paramount theater in KY.   The set list was great
Saturday night, and I have to say the vocals and harmony were ........well, just about as good as the originals.......that sounds like blasphemy as I type this but listening to All This is That and Their Hearts Were of Spring, not to mention WIBN.........I was transported.....


Folks, I think I finallly get it.....Its all about the music.  The music of the BeachBoys is the star.  We all know who wrote what for the most part and credit has been given where it is due..for the most part.

I've seen Brian twice with Pet Sounds and SMiLE but it was very satisfying to see Mike and Bruce again..and to see and hear this congfiguration of the BeachBoys capture those sounds again in such a manner as to satisfy this hard core fan.

If you get a chance, go see this show.   I can't imagine you'll be disappointed.


Title: Re: Recent setlist/s of theMike/Bruce touring group
Post by: MBE on November 17, 2008, 09:00:53 AM
Scott I just wanted you to know how much I loved the show you guys did last year with the Chicagoland pops. I wrote a review you can link to here
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,3688.0.html
Anyways I think we should all thank you here for doing the Beach Boys legacy proud.