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Title: in defence of "somewhere near japan"
Post by: art rush on October 01, 2008, 04:02:53 PM
i really like this song, i think it's an overlooked gem in the catalogue.
vocally the boys are sounding top, the lyrics are interesting and it's not the usual formula.
does anyone know what it's about?
there's a video on youtube where mike explains it, but i can't make out a word he's saying.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: GLarson432 on October 01, 2008, 04:34:35 PM
Others can embellish on this but the quick version is that John Phillips wrote the bulk of the song and it was about his daughter MacKenzie.  As you may or may not know she had a drug problem at the time (and was recently arrested on a cocaine charge I believe).  She married her drug dealer in '79 or '80 and honeymooned in the South Pacific.  When the money and drugs ran out she phoned home asking for help.  When asked where she was she replied something like..."somewhere near Japan".

Really. 

Undoubtedly I have something wrong in there but that's the story I've always heard.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: TonyW on October 01, 2008, 05:59:21 PM
There's no need to defend Somewhere Near Japan - it pretty much stands alone as the last quality Beach Boys recording (BW/Paley sessions material not withstanding).


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: GLarson432 on October 01, 2008, 06:34:43 PM
I agree with what you say, Tony.  I wasn't trying to defend the song...it's great.  I was just explaining its rather off-the-wall origins.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on October 01, 2008, 06:44:30 PM
Love "Somewhere Near Japan". I  remember reading where some fans thought it should've/could've been represented on Side 4 of the boxed set. I agree.

 


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: DonnaK on October 01, 2008, 08:43:56 PM
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Beach+Boys/+videos/+1-1LE3dpoTOvA


Hope this post works. Great song!!!!


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Loaf on October 01, 2008, 11:31:10 PM
One of my favourite BB songs in terms of sheer listening fun. The production is also quite tasteful, considering it was the 80s, and it sitting on the same record as the thuddingly awkward (but just as fun) Make It Big.

When he wanted to, John Phillips had an excellent way with a tune.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: art rush on October 02, 2008, 06:25:01 AM
Others can embellish on this but the quick version is that John Phillips wrote the bulk of the song and it was about his daughter MacKenzie.  As you may or may not know she had a drug problem at the time (and was recently arrested on a cocaine charge I believe).  She married her drug dealer in '79 or '80 and honeymooned in the South Pacific.  When the money and drugs ran out she phoned home asking for help.  When asked where she was she replied something like..."somewhere near Japan".

Really. 

Undoubtedly I have something wrong in there but that's the story I've always heard.

hey thanks! i've been curious about that for ages.
i always thought it was about world war II for some reason.


Title: Re: in defence of
Post by: John on October 02, 2008, 06:33:02 AM
Love "Somewhere Near Japan". I  remember reading where some fans thought it should've/could've been represented on Side 4 of the boxed set. I agree.

Absolutely. The last great song.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Shady on October 02, 2008, 04:53:17 PM
Heard this song for the first time on VH1 today, strange to see Brian in the video.

Pretty nice song, and Carl sounds great on it.

Might just invest in the Still Cruisin' album afterall


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 02, 2008, 09:58:11 PM
The version in the video is not the mix on the album.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: c-man on October 03, 2008, 05:39:38 AM
There's no need to defend Somewhere Near Japan - it pretty much stands alone as the last quality Beach Boys recording (BW/Paley sessions material not withstanding).

What about "Strange Things Happen"?


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: art rush on October 03, 2008, 08:09:30 AM
The version in the video is not the mix on the album.

7"/video mix vs. album version -- who wins?
i reckon album version. keeps a lot more of the colour.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: TonyW on October 03, 2008, 12:56:01 PM
There's no need to defend Somewhere Near Japan - it pretty much stands alone as the last quality Beach Boys recording (BW/Paley sessions material not withstanding).

What about "Strange Things Happen"?

I read that and thought I don't know that song, so I did a search and found a clip of it and realised its on SIP - which I only heard once and vowed never, never, never to own.

So I listened and now I want that 3 min 18 sec of my life back! You owe me man! You owe me!

That was cruel!


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Alex on October 03, 2008, 01:03:26 PM
There's no need to defend Somewhere Near Japan - it pretty much stands alone as the last quality Beach Boys recording (BW/Paley sessions material not withstanding).

What about "Strange Things Happen"?

I read that and thought I don't know that song, so I did a search and found a clip of it and realised its on SIP - which I only heard once and vowed never, never, never to own.

So I listened and now I want that 3 min 18 sec of my life back! You owe me man! You owe me!

That was cruel!

"Lahiana Aloha" (only because of Carl's vocal) and the oldies covers (except for "Surfin'" and Stamos' "Forever") are really the only somewhat tolerable songs on SIP.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: tpesky on October 03, 2008, 02:53:36 PM
Somewhere Near Japan to me represents the last "new" song with that magic of vocals.  SIP has a few moments (short as they may be) but never gets that entire group magic. That tag sung by Al still sends chills down my spine every time I hear it


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: MBE on October 04, 2008, 02:34:49 AM
It is a great song. The 45 is not as good. It's somewhat tinny and a bit too glossy. The LP sounds natural. It's really one of the only post 1980 songs worth hearing.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: c-man on October 04, 2008, 10:12:31 AM
There's no need to defend Somewhere Near Japan - it pretty much stands alone as the last quality Beach Boys recording (BW/Paley sessions material not withstanding).

What about "Strange Things Happen"?

I read that and thought I don't know that song, so I did a search and found a clip of it and realised its on SIP - which I only heard once and vowed never, never, never to own.

So I listened and now I want that 3 min 18 sec of my life back! You owe me man! You owe me!

That was cruel!

Aw, c'mon...it's not THAT bad!   :-D


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Beach Boy on October 04, 2008, 12:05:53 PM
I love that song!  :)  The live versions are great too, it proves that Ed Carter was really, really top!


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Dancing Bear on October 04, 2008, 01:14:03 PM
There's no need to defend Somewhere Near Japan - it pretty much stands alone as the last quality Beach Boys recording (BW/Paley sessions material not withstanding).

What about "Strange Things Happen"?

I read that and thought I don't know that song, so I did a search and found a clip of it and realised its on SIP - which I only heard once and vowed never, never, never to own.

So I listened and now I want that 3 min 18 sec of my life back! You owe me man! You owe me!

That was cruel!

Aw, c'mon...it's not THAT bad!   :-D

It's not BAD, but it really doesn't do anything for me. Very bland power ballad in a Starship / Cetera style. The tune could have worked better with a less generic production, even Joe Thomas '98 would do. And Mike still had some voice left, he could do without all the echo and trickery added to it.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Aegir on October 05, 2008, 12:43:36 PM
Strange Things Happen reminds me, lyrically, of Marcella, which is really weird.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 07, 2008, 08:37:52 AM
I think this is one of the few post-LA songs that doesn't need defending.

Know what you mean about the effects on Strange Things Happen - they're an annoying feature of so much of the last BB stuff.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 07, 2008, 11:05:29 AM
Agreed - the last worthwhile track the band recorded. No excuses required.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Alex on October 07, 2008, 11:37:27 AM
I think this is one of the few post-LA songs that doesn't need defending.

Know what you mean about the effects on Strange Things Happen - they're an annoying feature of so much of the last BB stuff.

One of the most annoying things (not counting "Summer of Love", "Surfin'", or John Stamos) on SIP was the high pitched "remember" on "Remember (Walking In The Sand)".


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Mr. Wilson on October 09, 2008, 10:50:48 AM
BB did a fine job playin Japan live also...Not quite as long as the record..Guitar solos shorter


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Wilsonista on October 10, 2008, 01:16:14 PM
Agreed - the last worthwhile track the band recorded. No excuses required.

*Better than Soul Searchin' and Still A Mystery?




*I expect AGD to disagree with this, but  the two Paley songs were the last worthwhile tracks the band recorded.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 10, 2008, 09:49:11 PM
No argument here.  :)


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Wilsonista on October 10, 2008, 10:46:09 PM
If you're saying  "... Japan" was the last good released (non-box set/comp) BB track, then I will agree with that.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 11, 2008, 10:20:39 AM
Yup.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Jay on October 12, 2008, 01:39:19 AM
I just watched the video of Somewhere Near Japan provided  by the link on the previous page. I had forgotten how much I liked the song. I actually like the echo in this song. To me it adds to the "mysterious" vibe in the lyrics. I know what Smilin Ed H means though. I've always HATED the weird echo effect on Mike vocal on "Getcha Back". A simple double tracked vocal, or a vocal "doubled" with Al or Carl would have sufficed.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: art rush on October 15, 2008, 06:30:56 AM
If you're saying  "... Japan" was the last good released (non-box set/comp) BB track, then I will agree with that.

i'm trying to think of a way in which i could disagree with this but it's pretty much impossible XD


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: donald on October 22, 2008, 11:36:33 AM
I can't get the video to play.  I regesitered and got HMR but no SNJ.  What is the trick?


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: southbay on October 22, 2008, 12:37:03 PM
While I think that Jardine's vocal on Strange Things is superb and that alone makes the song listenable, I also agree that Japan was their last really good one.  In terms of the 4th CD of Good Vibes, for completeness sake I think you could have added Where I Belong, Somewhere Near Japan and maybe the live version of SIP


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: donald on October 27, 2008, 07:16:50 AM
I got out the Still Cruisin disc and blew off the dust, played  SNJ and read the lyrics as I listened.

Struck me first of all as a metaphor of the last days of the Beach Boys.  Very touching when you hear it that way.

My engine's all burned out
My crew has all bailed out
I don't know where I am
But it's somewhere near Japan

And she said
"Rescue me"
I'm somewhere in the
China Sea
I think I'm sinkin' fast
This call is probably my last
I'm throwin' out a life line
And I'm doin' it for old time's sake
Though I know you're gonna break my heart
One more time


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: donald on November 05, 2008, 10:21:34 AM
Listened again today.  Three times.  I love Carl's part especially.   Are there any as of yet unreleased songs with Carl vocals of this quality?   I thnk there must be some .......other than Soul Searching.

This album in general was so disappointing that I never really payed much attention to this little gem of a song.  Glad I finally found it.


Title: Re: in defence of
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on November 05, 2008, 11:08:02 AM
I like your viewpoint of this song as posted above.

Although the album itself was sh*t, I kinda hold a softspot for it, as the day I bought it (for $1 clearance!) my wife & I, um, "hooked up" for the first time.


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: donald on November 05, 2008, 07:45:45 PM
I still have a soft spot for Framptom Comes Alive for the same reason :-[

ooooohhhh bebbie I luv yer waaayyyy!!!  (evereyday)


Title: Re: in defence of \
Post by: Alex on November 10, 2008, 11:48:21 AM
I still have a soft spot for Framptom Comes Alive for the same reason :-[

ooooohhhh bebbie I luv yer waaayyyy!!!  (evereyday)

"Do You Feel Like I Feel" was recorded at my university!