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I've decided to start compiling a complete archive of the Beach Boys' original albums (studio and live, no compilations)... are there any missing from this list?  (I put notes next to a few titles, where I had something else to say... hopefully someone more knowledgeable can answer my queries.)

* Surfin' Safari
* Surfin' USA
* Surfer Girl
* Little Deuce Coupe
* Shut Down Vol. 2
* All Summer Long
* Beach Boys Concert
* Christmas Album
* The Beach Boys Today!
* Summer Days (And Summer Nights!)
* Beach Boys' Party
* Remember The Zoo  [I'll use my own 'reconstruction' for this.]
* Pet Sounds
* Live In Michigan  [bootlegged as "Mike Love, Not War"??]
* Smile  [Purple Chick's, of course.]
* Smiley Smile
* Lei'd In Hawaii  [bootlegged]
* Wild Honey
* Friends
* Stack-O-Tracks  [well, it was un-compilation enough to merit a 2fer...]
* 20/20
* Reverberation  [not bootlegged, but compilable]
* Live In London/Beach Boys '69
* Add Some Music  [bootlegged??]
* Sunflower
* Landlocked  [bootlegged]
* Surf's Up
* Carl And The Passions: So Tough
* Holland
* The Beach Boys In Concert
- Caribou Album  [NOT bootlegged nor compilable]
- Beachago  [NOT bootlegged nor compilable?  I'm not sure... anybody??]
* 15 Big Ones
* New Album  [bootlegged]
* The Beach Boys Love You
* Adult Child  [bootlegged]
* Merry Christmas From The Beach Boys  [bootlegged]
* California Feeling  [bootlegged]
* MIU Album
* Light Album
* Keepin' The Summer Alive
* Cousins, Friends and Brothers  [NOT bootlegged as far as I know - but is a DIY compilation possible??]
* The Beach Boys
* Still Cruisin'
* Summer In Paradise
* Stars And Stripes Vol. 1
- Stars And Stripes Vol. 2  [not bootlegged, nor anywhere near completed... thus, I can't have it]
* The Beach Boys Salute NASCAR
* Good Timin' - Live At Knebworth
* Songs From Here And Back  [well, it's kind of fresh material...]

That should be everything, unless I'm missing a rogue lost album somewhere.  I just better start saving money for the 2fers, and get them out of the way first...

Argh, take Remember the Zoo off that list! It's not a Beach Boys album!!!

I miss the Beach Boys In Concert - single album version that was compiled, but refused by Warner, 1973. There's a tracklist known of this album, and no recordings of this album were used for the double live LP that was releaased later that year. I think the only song from that unreleased live album is Heroes And Villains, but I can't remember right away on which comp. CD it was released. Anyone?

Btw, I think you can find information on this (and every other unreleased/non existing BB-album) on AGD's bellagio-site. I assume you checked that one out already?

Heroes and Villains from the first one LP concert was released on Endless Harmony.

Is that the dreadful 'Wonderbill'?

Has the original seldom-mentioned Shut Down album (i.e., Volume 1) ever been re-released?  Seems like maybe there was a Japanese CD years ago.

Musically insignificant, but you can't get to 20 for 20/20 without that one...

No "Wonderbill" is just "Wonderful" followed by "Don't Worry Bill", which is a song by the Flames.

They were really doing "Don't Worry Bill" a favour by merging it with "Wonderful". Talk about pearls before swine.

Good call. I have a vague recollection that 'Shut Down' has Robert Mitchum with 'Ballad Of Thunder Road' on it, is that true?

I thought that the incorporated "Don't Worry Bill" was a terrific live track, really rocked. A direction the band could have gone down if it hadn't been for the Endless Summer approach that took hold later.

With all due respect -
I am diametrically opposed to you, 180^o, antipodean, the lot. 'Don't Worry Bill' = 'We Got Love' = 'Here She Comes' = 'Hold On Brother' --> LAME.
(sorry).

Love all those Flame songs mention.

No, not Flame, I said, Lame! You misheard me!  >:D

Didn't hear anything, only read something to disagree with.

OK, I'll have one on your taste then (or lack thereof...)  :police:

I agree with the Heartical Don. The Flame songs are mediocre. They're crushingly average songs. Leaving This Town (which has contributions from Mike and Carl) and to a lesser extent, Hold On Dear Brother are slightly better than the rest, but otherwise, they're just blah.

Sheesh, so much hostility towards "Remember The Zoo"...  :-D

Besides, I just tossed it on that list for completeness since it's on Andrew's page.  I'm assuming you were equally upset when I included it in that .DOC discography I distributed here a while back?  :)

I don't think it should be on Andrew's page, but his logic is that he has it there to show that it's a hoax. Not so someone can think it's in the official canon of Beach Boys albums.

Sounds good to me- I know it was a bunch of car songs- haven't seen it in years.  Can't even recall if I have it!  I do have the Mitchum track on several car-song compilations (I could probably reproduce the Shut Down sequencing, if I knew what the songs were) and I also have Mitchum's immortal classic album Calypso Is Like So!

I like the Flame songs.  I think they had a cool sound.

Remember The Zoo is just not a Beach Boys album, period, released or otherwise. It's just a discarded title. Andrew was trying to dispel that hoax, not perpetuate it.

Here's a brand new Beach Boys hoax for everyone to enjoy.  I'll come up with it on the spot, and we'll see how hard it dies.  In 1968, the Beach Boys were working on an album tentatively titled Up Against The Wall, Whitey!  Songs and Stories of the Black Power Movement.  Track listing: "Shortenin' Bread"; "I Can't Stand Myself When You Touch Me, Part 1" (lead: Al); "The Lonely Goatherd" (featuring sound effects flown in from the Watts riot); "How's About Some Of Your Sweet Lovin'"; "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again"; "It's A Man's Man's Man's Man's World" (lead: Al, NOT the James Brown song of that title); "The Elusive Butterfly Of Love" (Manson vocal); "The Funky Drummer" (lead: Bruce); "Rainbow Eyes" (track from original SMiLE version, new vocal by Rocky Pamplin); Suite: "Ballad Of The Green Berets"/"Student Demonstration Time"/"Hey Little Tomboy", "I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings" (Maya Angelou poem read by Mike); "Teeter Totter Love".  The last track supposedly featured the sounds of Dennis socking it to both Frankie and Annette, which led to its eventual shelving. Evolved into the Fred Vail Country album.

Possibility of release: intriguing, but unlikely.

No the original Shut Down LP was never reissued.  The two BB trakcs, of course, were overdubbed with hot rod noises and led off each side.  The rest of the LP, besides the Mitchum track, contained gems like "Black Denim Trousers" by the Cheers, the gag track "Car Trouble" by the Eligibles, and the non-vocal "Brontosaurus Stomp" by the Piltdown Men.  No prizes for guessing if any of these other groups existed outside of this project.

The story behind this LP, I think, was that the Capitol execs thought hot rod records were the next big thing and the Beach Boys' surf music was on the way out.

If you have a copy and a working turntable, play it at 78 for the kids. They will fall about.  We did when we were kids.

Well, I guess I couldn't reconstruct that...even the BB tracks (forgot about the overdubs) and it sounds like it's screaming for an introduction to the digital age, to finally complete all of our collections. I'm writing my congressman right away.

Speaking of rarities, always great to see an all-too rare post from one of my favorite members of this board.

Thank you thank you for the kind words.  Don't get up.  Here for your dining, dancing and reminiscing pleasure is the lineup for SHUT DOWN, Capitol mono LP T 1918:
(bought for $3.99 out of the dump bin at Reckless Records Chicago)

SIDE ONE
Beach Boys - Shut Down  (zoom zoom zoom)
The Cheers - Chicken (a Lieber-Stoller screamfest - girls,boys, brass, whatever)
Super Stocks - Wide Track (Gary Usher and hot-rod maven Roger Christian! They get 4 tracks on this waffle to themselves)
The Piltdown Men - Brontosaurus Stomp (with Lincoln Mayorga, later an L.A. jazz guy, and Ed Cobb)
Super Stocks - Four On The Floor
The Cheers - Black Denim Trousers and Motorcycle Boots (More screamfest. Tell that wailing chorus and barking french horns to STFU!)

SIDE TWO
Beach Boys - 409 (with vroom vroom)
Super Stocks - Street Machine
Robert Mitchum - Ballad of Thunder Road (1954?!  This was the next big thing?)
Jimmy Dolan - Hot Rod Race (nice rockabilly, like "Hot Rod Lincoln")
The Eligibles - Car Trouble (with yuk yuk sound FX)
Super Stocks - Cheater Slicks (whatever they were)

Good luck assembling this from whatever the sources may bestow upon  you…

Right, exactly. Now, if you managed to get this in a Beach Boys newsletter, I guess that's official enough for Andrew to put on his site to decry and official enough for TheLazenby to reconstruct on youtube and put on all his official lists. Right?

wrong. I wish people would just forget the Zoo.

Hey, not Andrew's fault. He's doing a public service, and Lazenby is just having some misguided fun.  People are attracted to those titles because they're fun to think about or believe in.  It'd be great to think that there was still something major hiding from us, within reach. Legit unreleased albums, to me, are SMiLE (twelve and ten track), Lei'd In Hawai'i, Adult Child, the second Christmas album, the '95 effort...those were legit projects that died and weren't replaced by anything else. The other stuff is mostly just alternate titles of works-in-progress that found another (usually improved or more appropriate)  form.

I'm whipped before I start reconstructing Shut Down...even the Beach Boys tracks are not the same as what I have (but why do I feel like I know the overdubbed versions?  I'm pretty sure now that I never owned it. Of course I have the Mitchum track several times over, and I probably have all of the  Super Stocks tracks (there was some Dennis involvement in "Four On The Floor", right?). After that...forget about it.

Are we certain there's never been a CD release anywhere at any time?  Having thought about it, I now feel like I recall seeing not the disc itself, but a picture of it in another Japanese import.  That would explain my not owning it.  But the picture might  have been just a misleading reproduction of an old group of LP releases.

Anyway, I'd buy the heck out of that sucker.  They should release it with bonus tracks of all the tracks sped up, as suggested earlier in this thread.

Surfer Joe is right. When one's a true diehard, then 'new titles' can appear even in dreams. I recall several dreams in which I 'heard' unreleased new Beach Boys' songs in their full glory. I can't describe the disappointment that ensued when I was having my breakfast coffee... because I thought, whilst dreaming, that in my orgasmic state I just had to run to the nearest record fair to grab that stuff.

(There exists a gorgeous comic cartoon where a TinTin fan discovers an 'unpublished' book with his hero, titled: 'TinTin And The Green Emeralds'. I think that in the process of bargaining with the vendor said fan wakes up perspiring, and immediately falls into deep depression...)

Yeah, my post was a little mean... I guess that's what happen when you post after a few beers.

Me too, but about twenty times a year, either in emails or on message boards, I get asked about it, hence the entry on the webpage. In quotes, yet. (Actually, that's the whole point of 10452 - instead of explaining, I can just say "it's on my website - next").

Landlocked is even worse. It was the working title for Surf's Up for, oh, all of maybe a week. That's all. How the title got stapled to the tape labelled "2nd Brother Records album" is possibly the perfect example of an overactive imagination putting a 2 in close proximity with another 2 and emerging with something of the order of 43.

Don't think so - it was the Four Speeds.

It's on my website, y'know... ;D

Not really misguided... I mean, I was well aware from the second I heard about it that it was all a wind-up.

I'm just intrigued about things like that; I'm the same way about Rolling Stone's hoax article about the lost Beatles album "Hot As Sun".  One of my biggest projects over at Bootleg Zone is reconstructing that album for its '40th anniversary'.  :-D  I was mainly inspired by a Japanese CD that tried to do the same thing but failed miserably. 

Right, thanks...

So I'm going to correct myself on re-assembling the Shut Down album- I've apparently got everything except-get this- the Beach Boys tracks, and in one place.  Some of you will, too.

I went to check on what I had by the Four Speeds, as opposed to the Super Stocks. At a glance, I see that I have two versions of "Four On The Floor"- by the Four Speeds (Surf & Drag Vol.1), and The Super Stocks (Monster Summer Hits- Drag City)- not to be confused with "Four In The Floor" by The Shutdowns (Surf & Drag Vol.2).  The two Usher tracks have a different overall sound, but checking in at 2:26 each, they appear to be the same basic track with a slightly different Usher vocal. "Cheater Slicks" same thing; same two bands, both versions 2:00.  If the track is indeed the same, Dennis just joined a new band. So far, I can't find a Super Stocks version of either "R.P.M." or "My Sting Ray", the other two songs Dennis is said to be on (the latter also including a Brian BG vocal).

So- on to Shut Down. Amazingly, every track Dr. Tim listed above for that album turns up on the Capitol 1991 CD compilation Monster Summer Hits- Drag City; Mitchum, Piltdown Men, everything.  The sole exception is that "Chicken" is attributed to Bert Convy and The Cheers rather than just the Cheers. The Beach Boys songs are there, too, but are not the overdubbed versions with added effects.   Also, I can't seem to confirm the "yuk-yuk" sound effects that Dr. Tim mentions for some songs.  So- for completists like me-  this album is that close to containing the entire Shut Down album on CD. I'd still like to have it in it's original order, with original mixes, and in its original cover.  Yeah, I'm a geek.

Still it's remarkable that after all these years, we still all call that recording "Landlocked". Mention that name and the average fan knows what we're talking about (and the more than average fan knows the right song-order, and the real freaks know exactly where that sound-dip in Big sur can be found).
But when you think of it, it's pretty reasonable. "Landlocked" sounds much better in my ears than "2nd Brother Records album". It's a great title for aa BB-record anyway IMO.

No need to get too anal about Shut Down vol. 1.  The ONLY difference in the BB tracks, as I said, is that hot rod noises are overdubbed onto the intros, which then cross-fade into the standard mono mixes you've heard a thousand times.  Capitol did that for the LP, the BBs had no say in it and certainly did not approve of it.

The yuk-yuk "comedy" FX are on the Eligibles track "Car Trouble", a song about a guy who goes driving to lover's lane with his girl on a promise to get her home on time, but the battery goes dead and he gets yelled at when they walk home (the FX are the yelling dad, the Maxwell car start-up, a smooch and a wolf whistle).  Reading this description of the song no doubt underwhelms you, as it should.  I'm assuming that one is on that Drag City compilation too, which I'd never heard of until now.   At least those tracks saw the light of day again in another format.

Is now a good time to bring up the working title: The Fading Rock Group Revival?

I recall reading this one long ago in some magazine, don't know which any more. Might have been thought up by Jack Rieley. In the days when perhaps for the first time 'eco-awareness' became an issue. Somehow, IMHO, 'Landlocked', 'Don't Go Near The Water', 'A Day In The Life Of A Tree' all have a certain downishness about them, and 'Til I Die' and maybe also 'Surf's Up' fit into the pattern. As does 'The Fading Rock Group Revival'.
Also, Rieley made that concept LP together with Machiel Botman, 'Western Justice', about global environmental and food problems (hey, were they really that visionary? After all, 'Western Justice' got released in, I think, 1973 or thereabouts.

I think The Fading Rock Group Revival was just Bruce's joke nickname for Reverberation, which had Cottonfields, Break Away, and Celebrate the News, combined with a few tracks from Landlocked and Sunflower.

OK tks!

1975, or thereabouts. Now available on CD and actually, it's rather good.

I got "Live In Michigan" (via the "Mike Love Not War" bootleg)... I have a feeling there is a good reason that was never officially issued.  Primarily... they sound high.  Very, very high.

howdy sh..


track list for the single live in concert was
side 1: wouldn't it be nice
            leaving this town
            heroes and villians
            marcella
           you need a mess of help to stand alone
side 2: let the wind blow
            do it again
            wild honey
            fun fun fun
            jumpin' jack flash

i have a copy of this but it is warped to h.ell. paid a buttload of $$$$ for it out of goldmine magazine ages ago. next to the us test pressing of holland with the song we got love and the tracking sheet it is my next prized item in my collection. but it really is so warped you can hypnotize yourself watching it spin on the turntable. very unplayable. at least all my tapes still play!   ::) ::)

and yes...the version of heroes on endless harmony is from this single set.

btw...remodeling coming together nicely. hopefuly all will be done before to long. looks great i may add!!  :)

I like Wonderbill. Just the fact that they did Wonderful or any other SMiLE material live in any form is a miracle in itself.