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Title: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: XY on August 03, 2008, 01:02:45 AM
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World of Peace Must Come
Stephen John Kalinich


A World Of Peace Must Come was recorded at Brian's house in Bel-Air in 1969. The tapes were promptly lost, not to be heard again until now. For the first time this truly timeless snapshot of an era and an ethos will be available nationally, and we can only hope that his prophecy is fulfilled.


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Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Aegir on August 03, 2008, 01:03:02 AM
Sweet!


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: phirnis on August 03, 2008, 01:11:07 AM
This still comes as quite a (pleasant) surprise. Thought it was going to be released as Kalinich/Wilson, however.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: mikeyj on August 03, 2008, 01:52:16 AM
Wow this is really cool. Another release to look forward to :) I wonder though if as a bonus it will have just the instrumental tracks?


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: elnombre on August 03, 2008, 05:23:22 AM
This still comes as quite a (pleasant) surprise. Thought it was going to be released as Kalinich/Wilson, however.

Apparently, so did whoever wrote the item description, since it makes mention of it being recorded 'at Brian's house', but no mention anywhere on the rest of the page of who Brian is.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: XY on August 03, 2008, 05:51:06 AM
A WORLD OF PEACE MUST COME (INTRO)
CANDY FACE LANE
I AM WAITING/THE BIRTH OF GOD
THE DEER, THE ELK, THE RAVEN
THE MAGIC HAND
LONELY MAN
BE STILL
WALK ALONG WITH LOVE
A WORLD OF PEACE MUST COME
IF YOU KNEW
AMERICA, I KNOW YOU
A WORLD OF PEACE MUST COME (OUTRO)
LEAVES OF GRASS (BONUS TRACK)

http://www.cargo-records.de/de/p3208/id/35308/katalog.html



Unreleased Brian Wilson album due for release

Written by Mark Thompson


Dating back to 1969 a "lost" album by Beach Boy Brian Wilson has been unearthed and is set for release on October 6th.
Entitled A World of Peace Must Come, the album was recorded at Wilson's home in August 1969 and is described as a collection of "music and psych-poetry".

The album was recorded by Stephen John Kalinich and features typical Wilson harmonies alongside his wife of the time, Marilyn. The set also includes two songs co-written with Dennis Wilson.

http://www.twistedear.com/index.php/News/Unreleased-Brian-Wilson-album-due-for-release.html


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Fun Is In on August 03, 2008, 05:57:33 AM
How accurate (or disingenuous) is it for this to be called "a Brian Wilson album"?


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 03, 2008, 06:00:02 AM
Bonus track is by Zarathurstra And Thelibus, Steve's band who were signed by Brother, and produced by Carl.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 03, 2008, 06:02:09 AM
How accurate (or disingenuous) is it for this to be called "a Brian Wilson album"?

Well... he produced and contributed vocal & instrumental backing. Compare with Mark Ronson's Versions album. Does he sing on it ?  :)


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: mikeyj on August 03, 2008, 06:44:41 AM
Bonus track is by Zarathurstra And Thelibus, Steve's band who were signed by Brother, and produced by Carl.

Andrew (or anyone for that matter) have you heard Leaves of Grass? If so, is it any good? I just remember reading that they wouldn't put it out as a single cause they thought it was about marijuana or something even though Kalinich said it isn't.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Rocker on August 03, 2008, 07:40:55 AM
Great year to be a Beach Boys-fan


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 03, 2008, 08:08:12 AM
Bonus track is by Zarathurstra And Thelibus, Steve's band who were signed by Brother, and produced by Carl.

Andrew (or anyone for that matter) have you heard Leaves of Grass? If so, is it any good? I just remember reading that they wouldn't put it out as a single cause they thought it was about marijuana or something even though Kalinich said it isn't.

It's based on the Whitman poem but yeah, can see why someone might think it's about 'erb.  :smokin


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: XY on August 03, 2008, 09:36:50 AM
I'm really curious about this. Having only heard "America I Know You" from SOT, my expectations are limited though.



Lost 1969 Brian Wilson To Be Released

by Paul Cashmere - August 3 2008


`A World of Peace Must Come`, an album recorded by Brian Wilson in 1969 based on the poetry of Stephen John Kalinich, will finally have an official release in October.

The album was intended to bring together Stevie’s words and Brian’s music. Stevie had signed to the Beach Boys Brother Records label just a year earlier.

“It was done like a home recording,” Stevie tells Undercover News. “Brian co-produced it with me. We started it around ‘69 after talking about it in ’68”.

The album was Stevie’s idea. “I had it as a concept and recorded some of it myself and then I brought it to Brian. He did ‘America I Love You’ with me first”.

Stevie has fond memories of the recording sessions. “I loved making it,” he tells Undercover. “”We had a blast and fun. We recorded most of it at Brian’s house but we went to other studios like Wally Heider and Sunset Sound to work on parts of it. I have fond memories and it was as important today as the day we recorded it”.

So why has it remained unreleased for all these years' “Partially getting someone really interested and deciding in myself to get it out there,” he says.

A World Of Peace Must Come will feature:

Candy face Lane
Birth of God
Deer, Elk, Raven
The Magic Hand (Fury Palm)
Lonely Man
Be Still
Walk Alone With Love
A World Of Peace Must Come
If You Knew
America I Know You

http://www.undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=5848


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Fun Is In on August 03, 2008, 10:07:51 AM
How accurate (or disingenuous) is it for this to be called "a Brian Wilson album"?

Well... he produced and contributed vocal & instrumental backing. Compare with Mark Ronson's Versions album. Does he sing on it ?  :)

Cool. Thanks.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: TdHabib on August 03, 2008, 12:19:46 PM
Can't wait to hear "Lonely Man," which apparantley is still a favorite of Brian's and a very well done track...


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: roll plymouth rock on August 03, 2008, 12:40:13 PM
This is really exciting news! First POB/Bambu, then TLOS and now this!!! If things are truly miraculous, maybe even Al's album will be released!  :lol


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Jason on August 03, 2008, 07:26:54 PM
This is an interesting LP.....very strange. Psychedelic, indeed. It'll be nice to add to the collection, as a look into what Brian was doing in 1969.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: SloopJohnB on August 04, 2008, 01:29:57 PM
Does anybody know why this isn't a Brother Records release? It might be a stupid question, but a Brother release would have seemed more logical to me. Instead, it's released by Light In The Attic.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Jason on August 04, 2008, 07:45:38 PM
I believe Steve Kalinich owns the recordings, but I'm not 100% sure. He's been trying to get the album released for years.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Bean Bag on August 05, 2008, 12:20:24 PM
Wow.  Never heard of this, I think.  Has anyone heard the music?

Is it good?


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Aegir on August 05, 2008, 01:44:33 PM
The only one I've heard is America I Know You. It's pretty cheesy. The guy reading the poem (who I guess is Steve K, but other sources attribute it to Desper) is really passionate. Very much a product of its time.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 05, 2008, 02:26:33 PM
The only one I've heard is America I Know You. It's pretty cheesy. The guy reading the poem (who I guess is Steve K, but other sources attribute it to Desper) is really passionate. Very much a product of its time.

Other sources would be wrong.  :)


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: brianc on August 05, 2008, 04:17:59 PM
It's good.

You gotta like poetry with music, which, admittedly, many do not. But Steve reads with a lot of passion. A few of the tracks border on being over-the-top ("America, I Know You"), but Steve's words are always heartfelt and insightful. Brian's music lies underneath 75% of the poems. It ranges from full-on productions with the Wrecking Crew to Brian simply playing the organ. Brian sings backup falsetto vocals on a few tracks, and American Spring sing on one track that is awesome.

If you like the late '60s/early '70s Beach Boys music, and the outgrowths, like Charles Lloyd, "Lady Love" by Dino, Desi & Billy, American Spring and stuff like that... this will be right up your alley. On a "Five Summer Stories" level... you can smell the sand, sea, yardley purfume and sun-tan lotion, all mixed with potent pot whiff.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on August 05, 2008, 04:49:06 PM
How accurate (or disingenuous) is it for this to be called "a Brian Wilson album"?

Well... he produced and contributed vocal & instrumental backing. Compare with Mark Ronson's Versions album. Does he sing on it ?  :)

AGD - what's your overall review?  Is it worth buying from a Brian Wilson musical point of view?


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 06, 2008, 01:22:16 PM
How accurate (or disingenuous) is it for this to be called "a Brian Wilson album"?

Well... he produced and contributed vocal & instrumental backing. Compare with Mark Ronson's Versions album. Does he sing on it ?  :)

AGD - what's your overall review?  Is it worth buying from a Brian Wilson musical point of view?

It's a slice of time and place, not to everyone's taste. If you're expecting anything close to what Brian was doing with the BB at the time, think again. But it is a missing artifact from Brian, and thus of some interest - who knows, we might get the Fred Vail country album sessions yet.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on August 06, 2008, 01:38:07 PM
You gotta like poetry with music, which, admittedly, many do not.

Is everybody in, the ceremony is about to begin.:smokin


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on August 06, 2008, 04:35:45 PM
How accurate (or disingenuous) is it for this to be called "a Brian Wilson album"?

Well... he produced and contributed vocal & instrumental backing. Compare with Mark Ronson's Versions album. Does he sing on it ?  :)

AGD - what's your overall review?  Is it worth buying from a Brian Wilson musical point of view?

It's a slice of time and place, not to everyone's taste. If you're expecting anything close to what Brian was doing with the BB at the time, think again. But it is a missing artifact from Brian, and thus of some interest - who knows, we might get the Fred Vail country album sessions yet.

Mahalo AGD!


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: MBE on August 08, 2008, 12:42:46 AM
Just emailed the company and it looks like there will be vinyl! ;D


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Bill Tobelman on August 10, 2008, 11:40:54 AM
So does this mean that Brian was in tune with the times? Seems so.

Maybe that's why he abandoned that pro Americana LP (SMiLE) & deemed it inappropriate. He must be a traitor. Makes sense.





Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: carl r on August 11, 2008, 01:07:51 PM
I wouldn't worry too much. Brian must have got bored of waiting for a World of Peace by now. Haven't we all? Though "Love and Mercy" touches on a few pacific strings.

So does this mean that Brian was in tune with the times? Seems so.

Maybe that's why he abandoned that pro Americana LP (SMiLE) & deemed it inappropriate. He must be a traitor. Makes sense.






Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Aegir on August 11, 2008, 01:27:37 PM
Though "Love and Mercy" touches on a few pacific strings.
I think a lot of songs written by Brian touch on Pacific strings...


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: exposedbrain on August 12, 2008, 10:30:06 AM
on Amazon you can listen to short clips of the songs


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Bicyclerider on August 12, 2008, 04:25:40 PM
Which other song (besides Be Still) was cowritten with Dennis?

I also wish instruental versions of some of the songs had been included - but I guess I'm just being greedy!


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Fun Is In on August 12, 2008, 04:50:47 PM
maybe someone can OOPs them to separate the vocals from the instruments.....but I'm tech-ignorant and possibly entirely wrong about that possibility.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: brianc on August 12, 2008, 04:58:01 PM
Just emailed the company and it looks like there will be vinyl!

Awesome news.

I heard the album at Steve Kalinich's house a few years back and loved it. After he played the CD, Steve pulled out an original vinyl pressing that was made in the early '70s. It wasn't an acetate. It had a label and all the songs typed out on it. Looked more like a promo copy to my eyes. But I could be wrong. He didn't have the set-up to play it, and probably wouldn't have wanted to, considering it may have been the only copy and all. But having this album on vinyl is gonna be awesome.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Aegir on August 12, 2008, 08:07:24 PM
on Amazon you can listen to short clips of the songs
Where? I don't see any.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: TdHabib on August 12, 2008, 09:20:34 PM
on Amazon you can listen to short clips of the songs
Where? I don't see any.
Select the MP3 Downloads version of the album and from there you can preview all of the tracks.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Aegir on August 12, 2008, 10:04:13 PM
Ah thanks, I see now. I may just download the versions of the title track with singing, Lonely Man, Be Still, Walk Along with Love, and maybe Leaves of Grass. That's five of six dollars instead of 15.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: MBE on August 14, 2008, 04:23:13 AM
Just emailed the company and it looks like there will be vinyl!

Awesome news.

I heard the album at Steve Kalinich's house a few years back and loved it. After he played the CD, Steve pulled out an original vinyl pressing that was made in the early '70s. It wasn't an acetate. It had a label and all the songs typed out on it. Looked more like a promo copy to my eyes. But I could be wrong. He didn't have the set-up to play it, and probably wouldn't have wanted to, considering it may have been the only copy and all. But having this album on vinyl is gonna be awesome.

It is cool, that company does a lot of records, of course every request helps so more emails to them won't hurt.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: brianc on August 14, 2008, 10:34:45 AM
Is the vinyl product still in the lobbying stages?


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Dove Nested Towers on August 15, 2008, 04:44:33 PM
This is very exciting news! Sounds like it was conceived and recorded under inspired and spontaneous circumstances in the idealistic and utopian spirit
of the era and may be imbued with that unmistakable and palpable enthusiasm and innocent feel heard in "Little Bird" and "Be Still" (at least as far as the two Dennis tracks are concerned).

This kind of "vibe" is needed more than ever today, and if one of Brian's favorite songs is on it that alone is enough to generate GREAT anticipation!


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Mr. Cohen on August 15, 2008, 05:06:31 PM
I heard the "America I Know You" track and while it's not a lost classic, it is an interesting production and much different than anything else Brian was doing around that time. It is both orchestral and pastoral, a very relaxed song that has a little bit of an ethereal feel. Actually, it kind of reminds me of something Van Dyke Parks could have done. It is not really pop in any way, though. It will be really interesting to hear what other styles are explored on the whole album.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: MBE on August 15, 2008, 05:22:40 PM
Is the vinyl product still in the lobbying stages?
Yes here is the email including his address so anyone who wants to encourage it can.
From: matt@lightintheattic.net
To: edermike@msn.com
Subject: Re: A World of Peace Must Come

Hi Mike,
Thank you for the email.
We're still planning it out. Hopefully there will be vinyl, as I'd love to make it happen.
All the best,
Matt.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: bsten on August 23, 2008, 04:38:40 AM
Funny it hasn't turned up on any boots (except "America I know you")...!!!???
BS


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: TheLazenby on August 25, 2008, 01:26:52 PM
Wow, does this mean there's a chance we'll also see a release of Brian and Fred Vail's supposedly awful country album "Cows In The Pasture"?  :P


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: brianc on August 25, 2008, 01:37:16 PM
Who said it was awful? I've never heard a note from it.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: The Shift on August 26, 2008, 10:27:43 AM
AGD has implied on more than one occasion that it doesn't really bare listening to.  I don't know how much of it he has heard.  Care to illuminate us Andrew please?


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 26, 2008, 10:43:22 AM
Fred only recorded five or so vocals for the project. Let's just say, he's more a Jasper Daily than a Brian Wilson. It's possible that hearing Fred sing was one reason why Brian bailed on the project.  :)


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: brianc on August 26, 2008, 11:06:48 AM
Yeah, but musically, is it any good? Wasn't there a whole album's worth of backing tracks cut?


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on August 26, 2008, 12:13:35 PM
Yup, and with some cool dudes too - Glen D. Hardin, Buddy Emmons, Red Rhodes, James Burton to name but four.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: The Shift on August 26, 2008, 01:34:20 PM
Do we envisage a double CD of Jasper Daily and Fred Vail's Brian Wilson productions, along the lines of a delux package like POB/Bambu?

Yes?

Well I'd buy it...


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: brianc on August 26, 2008, 01:38:19 PM
For some reason, I imagine this album, even with half backing tracks and half vocal song, would sound good. Here's hoping it gets released someday. With so much good lo-fi country and Americana being put out these days, it seems like the perfect time.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Mark A. Moore on August 26, 2008, 01:53:40 PM
Steve Kalinich did a new poem for the Jan Berry tribute album.

We backed it with a melody Jan was working on in the late '60s, called "Song No. 2" . . . with additional orchestrations by Cameron Parkes.

The poem is about overcoming limitations, and is delivered wonderfully by Steve.

M.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Bicyclerider on August 27, 2008, 01:33:22 PM
For some reason, I imagine this album, even with half backing tracks and half vocal song, would sound good. Here's hoping it gets released someday. With so much good lo-fi country and Americana being put out these days, it seems like the perfect time.

But it's hard to believe that it could be better than Country Love! ::)


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: brother john on August 28, 2008, 03:25:09 AM
Stephen J. Kalinich also did a track with ex-Smile Shopper Paul Steel (T.A. injasonbow) who's making his own records now and still pops by here from time to time I think. The track was called Ocean, and is great, SJK's narration being particularly effective. It was on Paul Steel's myspace page for a while, though I don't know if its still there.

There are also some videos on PS's blog of the two of them recording it.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on September 07, 2008, 12:44:03 PM
eh..listening to the samples of this on amazon, not much brian on it from the clips anyway.


Title: Re: 'A World Of Peace Must Come' - it does! In September
Post by: Bean Bag on September 18, 2008, 09:57:46 AM
Allmusic has a write-up on this on the homepage...http://www.allmusic.com/ (http://www.allmusic.com/)

Here's the direct entry

http://blog.allmusic.com/2008/9/18/new-music-from-the-beach-boys-vaults/ (http://blog.allmusic.com/2008/9/18/new-music-from-the-beach-boys-vaults/)