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Getting bored with the 'HMV' thread so I thought I'd start this one.

The POB disc sounds extraordinary - possibly the best CD remaster of a 1970s analogue tape I've heard. The baritone sax in Dreamer comes out and grabs you by the delicate bits.

The Taylor Hawkins vocal on Holy Man is so effective the first time thru I didn't consciously think it wasn't Dennis. Favourite of the moment - It's Not Too LAte for the sublime fade with Carl & Dennis together, and Love Remember Me.

Fab packaging too. And you don't have to read the David Leaf essay!

I wanna get this when i get the money im happy they released it rather than spend 100 or more for the record

now if only the 2 carl wilsons solo albums will get the same treatment with some bonus tracks any word on that?

I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt it.

Bonus tracks ? Jeez, the ones they released were bad enough...

Some of us would disagree with that assessment, Andrew!  ;D

Seriously, I would like to see Carl get the deluxe reissue treatment, even though he's not the heavyweight songwriter his brothers are. I do listen to his solo work on a regular basis, and I'd love to hear what else he left behind. I'm secretly hoping there's an extended version of Carl singing the L.A. phonebook out there.  :rock

You can make a pretty solid CD with select tracks on each cd, imo.

(Referring to Carl's releases...)

Mine came in the post today, it's very nice, they're very differnet sounding albums, i'm liking the cold druggy sort of sound of the Bambu stuff. I've seen a lot of these deluxe/legacy CDs and some of them are real poor but this is the real deal - a rare album (thats good) packaged with tons of unreleased tracks!
I'm hoping for one of Sweet Insanity and all the outtakes.... ::)

Please, if anyone at BRI is considering re-issuing Carl Wilson's album's and monitoring this board to gauge levels of enthusiasm, don't take Andrew's comment as being representative of everyone here.

Myself, Emdeeh, and I'm sure many many others, would personally love to have these albums given the POB treatment.

Carl Wilson's albums might not have attained the same cult status as POB but it's a great shame that a body of work built around Carl Wilson's voice isn't currently available.

Andrew, once we've got Carl's albums given the Legacy treatment, then we can start pleading for Looking Back With Love, the Celebration album and others to be re-issued too!   >:D

but before the 'Looking Back With Love' Legacy Edition, can we please have a 2 CD Set with all the Honeys/Spring material? From "Pray For Surf" to "Tonight You Belong To Me", the Spring album, "Shyin' Away" to "It's Like Heaven" etc. with unreleased bonus cuts like "Shortenin' Bread" for AGD and "Silly Walls"...

Now if only that Looking Back With Love legacy edition would come with a cap and fake beard: all would be well in the world.

I have a Captain Sensible Christmas record which came with a fluffy white beard and Santa hat so maybe that would suffice. Great record too!

Anyone looked at the David Leaf pdf file on POB yet?

Am I allowed to post it here?




PACIFIC OCEAN BLUES
by David Leaf
It doesn’t seem possible that it’s been thirty years since Dennis Wilson became the first of the Beach Boys to release a solo album…

There's nothing really Earth-shatteringly vital in the piece, other than David's summary of how he got to meet Dennis and sing on "He's a Bum" with a bunch of other journalists.

I know Dennis' album is doing and will continue to do very well sales-wise, so hopefully we can see more of Dennis' music released, as well as 70s-era Beach Boys.  This is what the market wants ... keep it coming on vinyl too.  audiences are smarter and hipper than ever before, we don't need endless greatest hits packages anymore, we know the good stuff and we want more of it.  Pacific Ocean/Bambu sales will prove this

Well said

At least get it on iTunes until you can buy the "physical" cd. Bought it this morning as I couldn't wait until the Amazon shipment arrived later this week. Had to hear it NOW!!!! FANTASTIC DENNIS!!!! :)

Did I say Tug of Love sounds stunning? :smokin

Wow!! What a wait...collectively we all waited with anxiety for this day to come. Whether old or young we looked with such great anticipation for June 17th to arrive, and lo and behold the day is now. My local Barnes and Noble didn't get the memo about the release of POB/Bambu, it's their loss. I had to go to another store to get it. All I can say is that this CD set totally surpasses anything I ever would've imagined being released by Dennis; it is now the official soundtrack of summer 2008.

Thank You to everyone who pushed to have this released, I am in total awe of this amazing music. Beats the crap out of 99% of all the musical output being relased today. I hope we can get more unreleased Beach Boys related music out into the market; I have no doubt any new stuff will be successful.

Thank You Dennis, God Bless You....

 :rock :drum

Carl's music deserves a thread of it's own.

There are those of us who PREFER to listen to Carl's music over that of  Dennis.   I have POB and a bootof Bamboo on vinyl.  Same as the Carl solo albums, both on vinyl.  I bring out the Carl more often.  And I listent o Bamboo more often than  POB.

I can't believe Andrew.......seems to prefer Mike Love solo albums over Carl's?  Truly one mans' meat is anothers poison.

Wow.  Got it at school today - WAY TO GO AMAZON!! - and i have it on the BOSE speakers at home right now...and...

LISTEN TO THIS THING!!!!!!!!  Everything i've always heard is there, but clearer - in spades - and i'm hearing things that i can't even identify...and JESUS this is as special as anything i've heard in a long time.

It seems like a minute ago we thought this day would never come...POB be re-released? Fat Chance....Bambu to be released?- What are you smoking?...

Summer started a few days early this year, I will always remember how awesome this day was...(except for the Willie Randolph fiasco, but I digress)

Holy Man is unreal....

You know, i'll always remember this, too.  Willie and Dennis in juxtaposition...Dennis winning. 

My only initial comment is that POB should have stood alone.  It's weird to have other songs there.  They don't belong.  Maybe a small quibble...but a quibble nevertheless.

I'd love to see that happen too.

"You and I" cleaned up is a freakin' GEM.  It's so amazing hearing all of this, taking it all in. I'm so happy Denny is finally getting the credit he deserves after all these years! I hope he is smiling somewhere...

I'm still taking it all in...I jumped to BAMBU first.  There's some really remarkable stuff on there, and it has a certain mystery for being unfinished, like the SMiLE outtakes were.

That said, I was really moved by "Mexico."  Not sure why, it just grabs me.  I don't really want words on that one.  It's just beautiful.

My Amazon copy hasn't arrived yet, buy I bought it from iTunes early this morning. Love the whole album. Especially Love Remember Me.  Only With You is absolutely fantastic cleaned up!!! I bet it will be played at alot of weddings now!!! Thank you Dennis and all of the people who actually got this together to give it to us!!!!

Is there a twinge of Chicago's Color My World in the middle of Common???? Too much time with Robert Lamm?

I can't fathom why anyone would prefer Carl's albums over POB.....

Listen to this on headphones...you'll really hear the little things that can make one appreciate the small miracle that has happened today...I still can't believe I'm hearing what I'm hearing...Only With You is outtasight...what a day...what a year...TLOS is next....

"Holy Man" and "Tug Of Love" are OUTSTANDING. I can't tell you how moved I am by those two. Just amazing. As noname said, the music on these 2 cds "beats the crap out of 99% of all the musical output being relased today".

 :rock

Me too. What a gorgeous track!

Can't find any weak spots on the whole set, except maybe the short pauses between the tunes.

For me it's "Love Remember Me"... leaves me utterly speechless. It's where I start disc 2 every time. Not just a Bambu favourite, but an all-time favourite of any thing, by any one.

I do miss the "nah nah nah noo nahs" on Wild Situation though, and the "Thank you for the love that I found" at 2:02 seems out of place, compared to what we're used to. Do you know if it was it flown in, Jon?

With Karen Lamm around at the time, I would doubt that....  ;D

I was very surprised by how much I enjoyed the instrumentals...especially the beautiful, moving "Piano Variations on Thoughts of You". (Like another post I recently read, I wonder how this ended up on Bambu, as opposed to the POB disc as a bonus track.)

By the way, I'd just like to share this image (at the top of the Blue Bambu Board) of possibly the NEWEST Dennis Wilson fan - at least in our house...his name is Aedric, 4 months old.

http://pub21.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1801480168

There's some "Morning Christmas" in there too!

Carl's songrwiting record is pretty spotless, but of course he wasn't Brian or Dennis. However, being the greatest singer of all-time isn't too shabby, so... yeah, Carl's stuff deserves respect. Anything he lent his voice to does...

At the risk of derailing a Denny thread, the big problem with Carl's solo work was that it fell short of expectations by a good country mile. Granted his portfolio prior to 1980 wasn't extensive, but coming from a man who'd composed "The Trader", "Feel Flows", "Long Promised Road" and "Angel Come Home", the likes of "The Right Lane", "Bright Lights" and "Hold Me" were a severe disappointment in this neck of the woods, and the reviews tended to agree. The 2nd LP was better, but still patchy. I feel that if there was a genuine groundswell for the reissue of these albums outside of these fora, they'd be out there by now. No legalistics to hold anything up.

Exactly what I thought when I heard it

I also don't want to derail; maybe we could start a Carl Wilson solo thread, but anyway....

Andrew, while I agree with your assessment(s) of Carl's solo albums, I don't agree with your (not quite) prediction that they won't be re-released. I remember reading several posts of yours regarding the possibility of POB being reissued, and you were pretty adamant that it wasn't going to happen for quite a while longer, due to a number of reasons.

You are right, there aren't many "legalistics" holding up a Carl Wilson solo release. All it would take is a "fan" executive with some drive, creativity, and guts, and it could happen sooner than you think. Does anybody know if both Carl solo albums fit on a single CD? I guess the best scenario would be a double CD release with any kind of bonus tracks/live stuff/rarities tacked on like POB. I'm not ruling it out.

Both LPs do fit on one disc with a little extra room.  I made my own 2-fer for the car.  ;D

Thanks, hart325. Then I think I'd opt for a single CD package. Add a couple bonus tracks, some nice liner notes, and a budget price - and there you go! :police:

True, but I was saying that up to five years ago ! Plus, situations change... plus, sometimes one has to be discrete.

I'm sure both Carl's albums will be reissued (after all, wasn't Bruce's solo effort ?) outside of Japan, most likely both on one CD. Which is not the same as saying they warrant reissuing on artistic grounds. The first album charted at, what, the middle 180s, and the second, superior album didn't chart at all.

I would prefer to see a proper DW Anthology before any CW solo albums got the royal treatment.  >:D

Am I the only here who loved Farewell My Friend, but now gets shivers from it. I never noticed the pad of voices. Not sure if thats because the fidelity of the recording is better or I just never noticed, but I love it.

Hmmm, my POB (disc 1) won't play on my PC.

It opens up like a powerpoint type of thing, with the liner notes, but I can't see any music on there. It'll play in the car, but that's no good as the sounds rubbish, plus I want to listen to it on my PC right now, and put it on my MP3 player

Anyone any idea what's happened? Have I got a duff CD, or is my PC misbehaving? Any help would really be appreciated

When the .pdf file with the liner notes appears, close it out by hitting the 'X' in the corner or by pressing the 'Esc' key on your keyboard.  If Media Player (or whatever player you use) isn't on your screen, try clicking on 'My Computer', and then click on 'CD Drive (D:)' to see if the tracks appear.  If the tracks appear, click on one to see if Media Player (or whatever player you use) opens it up.  The tracks may be listed as 'Unknown Song 1', etc. if you haven't got your player set up to grab album info off of the internet.

OR

Open up your player, then select 'File', 'Open', 'CD Drive (D:)' from the pull down menus at the top.

Right I hope the a triple LP and double CD comes out on all of Dennis' earlier stuff from 67-74. I love his voice then and I personally find that to be his real prime. Don't get me wrong, he was still great through the 70s.

I am SOOOOOOOO in love with Bambu!

I've had a crappy sounding boot for years and it never really grabbed me other than as a "fly on the wall" curiosity. But man, have they made it shine!!! With the insturmentals, it's kinda like Dennis' Pet Sounds.

I love, love, love the whole packaging! One thing, though: I strongly advise taking the discs out of the package and storing them in a CD case or something. Those tight disc pockets on the cardboard package are trouble. All it takes is for one little granule of something to get in there and you'll scratch the hell out of the discs when you take em out. Trust me, I've already gouged Bambu pretty badly!

Two questions after reading the liner notes and reviewing

http://danaddington.com/denny/releasedmusic.html

1) Is there a song on the above web site that corresponds with "Love Remembers Me," or is it a previously unknown DW song?

2) I know why "Baby Blue Eyes" wasn't included, but why wasn't "10,000 Years" and "New Orleans" included?

Love Remember Me is a composite of two songs - I Don't Know and My Love's Comin' Down.


10,000 Years was most likely not included because it might not have been found......New Orleans is the backing track for Time For Bed.

I'm copying my CDs to my Ipod.  That should save some wear and tear.

I assume "not found" means, since it's unofficially available, a copy that could be cleaned up could not be found.

Thank you for the info!

I don't see "Are You Real" on the "dreamer" web site either... is that  a previously unknown entry?

The liner notes say that "Tug Of Love" was pulled when "End Of The Show" was added. Damn. Why couldn't they have just added it. And "Only With You".

There were 12 songs on POB; what's wrong (no pun intended) with 14? Well, I'm taking the liberty to put "Tug Of Love" right after "River Song" and "Only With You" right after "Time" - on my personal POB. I'm also using "Piano Variations On Thoughts Of You" as a hidden track after "End Of The Show".

Funny amazon.co.uk sales rank:

#1 in   Music > Country
#2 in   Music > Adult Contemporary > Pop Rock
#3 in   Music > Pop
#4 in   Music > Bestsellers in Music

BTW, the Legacy Edition peaked at #67 in Holland.  :)

Just noticed that SMiLE stayed in the Top 100 there for 16 weeks!

I can't say what a great re-release this is ! Thank you to all who made it possibl. It's sooooooo great ! Hope it will sell very good so we can hope for a DW-Boxset.
Is this commercial enough, Mike ?  ;D ;)

Mike wrote the lyrics for the title track, and for "Only With You". ;D ;)

He should release his album then with Dennis' 10,000 years. Maybe it would sell as much  ;)

There's way more Mike in this release than Brian. How ironic.  ;)

Dennis phoned Mike and played him the track down the wires. A few hours later, Mike called back with the lyrics, which I think are pretty good. "POB" was Dennis' submission for 15BO but was not included on the grounds that it rather stood out.

Mike wrote some good songs in the mid seventies. A lot of them on were to be on First Love, which actually would have been one of the better Beach Boys solo albums if not anywhere near Dennis' work. It's hell of a lot better then Carl's  and half of Brian's

to show how i feel, i will quote what Carl Wilson said on An American Family: "when you listen to it, how could you not want to be apart of this?" i know Carl was on Bambu, but seriously, this album blows pretty much anything the beach boys ever put out post Holland. possibly best solo album.

Just listening to POB for the very first time in three years or probably even more. I have to admit that I had more or less lost interest in the album some time ago, while right now it just sounds so fresh and beautiful again I can't see how that could possibly happen. Haven't checked out the whole of the Bambu tracks yet and it will probably take some time for me to really get into the music as it seems much more rock-oriented to me (but then it also sounds quite experimental, which is something I can identify with). Always loved School Girl and He's A Bum.

Great packaging, by the way. Karen Lamm looks fucking hot in some of the pictures.