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Title: Vegetables
Post by: roll plymouth rock on March 29, 2008, 11:52:11 AM
So I am just trying to figure out how many different versions of this song there are. So far, I can think of 4:
-The Smile version
-The Smiley Smile version
-The Laughing Gravy version
-The Jan & Dean 70's version
Is this the case?


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Chris Brown on March 29, 2008, 11:56:23 AM
Technically speaking, there were 2 Smile versions...the "cornucopia" version (which almost sounds like a demo) that was done in late '66 I believe, then the version we all know from the box set that was done in April '67.

Other than that, your list looks good to me!


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Fun Is In on March 29, 2008, 03:42:30 PM
BWPS?


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: XY on March 30, 2008, 12:42:10 AM
You forgot my favorite complete BB version:

the extended SmileySmile mix in Stereo on 'Hawthorne, CA'


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: roll plymouth rock on March 30, 2008, 12:09:17 PM
Does anyone have dates for the Vegetables sessions?


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: c-man on March 30, 2008, 01:20:35 PM
Does anyone have dates for the Vegetables sessions?

SMiLE:
Apr. 4, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 5, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 6, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (Insert) (track & vocals)
Apr. 7, 1967 - Columbia: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 10, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 11, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 12, 1967 - Gold Star: VEGETABLES (track)
Apr. 12, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 13, 1967 - Western Recorders: no title, session cancelled (probably intended for VEGETABLES)
Apr. 13, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals - Brian only)
Apr. 14, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals - Brian only)

Smiley Smile:
Jun. 3, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (probably vocals)
Jun. 5, 1967 - Western Recorders: VEGETABLES (You're With Me Tonight)
Jun. 6, 1967 - Western Recorders: VEGETABLES (Insert)
Jun. 7, 1967 - Western Recorders: VEGETABLES (You're With Me Tonight) Insert
Jun 15, 1967 - Brian Wilson's Home Studio: VEGETABLES (track & vocals)


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Aegir on March 30, 2008, 02:49:36 PM
They started recording the vocals before the track?


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Bicyclerider on March 30, 2008, 03:54:40 PM
The initial track was just Brian's piano, so they were singing to that.


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: c-man on March 30, 2008, 03:58:25 PM
The initial track was just Brian's piano, so they were singing to that.

Yep.  And I think the Gold Star track is pretty obvious on the 1993 "Good Vibrations" box set mix.  Great job on that by Mark Linett, BTW.


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: c-man on March 30, 2008, 04:02:39 PM
Does anyone have dates for the Vegetables sessions?

SMiLE:
Apr. 4, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 5, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 6, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (Insert) (track & vocals)
Apr. 7, 1967 - Columbia: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 10, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 11, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 12, 1967 - Gold Star: VEGETABLES (track)
Apr. 12, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals)
Apr. 13, 1967 - Western Recorders: no title, session cancelled (probably intended for VEGETABLES)
Apr. 13, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals - Brian only)
Apr. 14, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (vocals - Brian only)

Smiley Smile:
Jun. 3, 1967 - Sound Recorders: VEGETABLES (probably vocals)
Jun. 5, 1967 - Western Recorders: VEGETABLES (You're With Me Tonight)
Jun. 6, 1967 - Western Recorders: VEGETABLES (Insert)
Jun. 7, 1967 - Western Recorders: VEGETABLES (You're With Me Tonight) Insert
Jun 15, 1967 - Brian Wilson's Home Studio: VEGETABLES (track & vocals)


Oh, and I should add:

Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE:
Apr. 14, 2004 - Sunset Sound - VEGETABLES (track)
Jun, 2004 - Your Place Or Mine - VEGETABLES (vocals)


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on March 30, 2008, 04:36:39 PM
And, of course, there's the 1968 TV appearance on The Mike Douglas Show, when they performed an audience participating, hand clapping version of "Vegetables".

I always thought it was an unusual, but ambitious choice. They were two albums and a couple of singles removed from Smiley Smile/"Vegetables" by then, but it was an excellent performance nevertheless.



Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: c-man on March 30, 2008, 06:07:04 PM
And, of course, there's the 1968 TV appearance on The Mike Douglas Show, when they performed an audience participating, hand clapping version of "Vegetables".

I always thought it was an unusual, but ambitious choice. They were two albums and a couple of singles removed from Smiley Smile/"Vegetables" by then, but it was an excellent performance nevertheless.



You've seen and/or heard it?  YouTube (I hope)?


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on March 30, 2008, 06:54:53 PM
And, of course, there's the 1968 TV appearance on The Mike Douglas Show, when they performed an audience participating, hand clapping version of "Vegetables".

I always thought it was an unusual, but ambitious choice. They were two albums and a couple of singles removed from Smiley Smile/"Vegetables" by then, but it was an excellent performance nevertheless.

You've seen and/or heard it?  YouTube (I hope)?

Unfortunately, no YouTube. I have it on an old Maxell audio cassette somewhere....

EDIT: I apologize, it was David Frost, not Mike Douglas. Sorry...


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: c-man on March 30, 2008, 08:01:20 PM
If it was David Frost, then it was 1971, with the acoustic "Lady" and "Forever", right?


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on March 31, 2008, 05:11:44 PM
If it was David Frost, then it was 1971, with the acoustic "Lady" and "Forever", right?

Yes, and a wonderful version of "Lady" it was BTW...


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Mahalo on March 31, 2008, 05:26:33 PM
On the Vegatables demo, can anyone figure out the backgroung vox after Brian sings, "I'm gonna cornucopia, strip the stalk green and I hope ya like me most of all, my favorite Vegetable..."?


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Ian on March 31, 2008, 06:22:47 PM
I wrote to the David Frost show owners and they tell me that that show is no more-destroyed to save space years ago.  It exists on audio-some fan taped it (it appeared on some boots), but the video seems to be lost forever


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Chris Brown on March 31, 2008, 06:38:13 PM
On the Vegatables demo, can anyone figure out the backgroung vox after Brian sings, "I'm gonna cornucopia, strip the stalk green and I hope ya like me most of all, my favorite Vegetable..."?

I've never been able to totally decipher it...at the end it sounds like they sing something like "made my body shook" but I really don't know.


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Amazing Larry on July 14, 2009, 04:14:57 PM
I could make out "Round And Round and Round Dig A Hole In The Ground"


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Mahalo on July 14, 2009, 08:05:16 PM
...wow, that sounds prttey good....


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Alex on July 14, 2009, 08:19:57 PM
On the Vegatables demo, can anyone figure out the backgroung vox after Brian sings, "I'm gonna cornucopia, strip the stalk green and I hope ya like me most of all, my favorite Vegetable..."?
To me it always sounded like "tripped on a cornucopia, squished the stalk green...".


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Amazing Larry on July 14, 2009, 09:04:53 PM
Its's "tripped on a cornucopia, strip the stalk green"


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Mr. Cohen on July 14, 2009, 09:13:54 PM
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Its's "tripped on a cornucopia, strip the stalk green"

Yes, a clever little reference to smoking weed, which I is why I think this is the right lyric. He "tripped" on an endless supply of weed, stripping the stalks of their bud to smoke.


Title: Re: Vegetables
Post by: Amazing Larry on July 15, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
Hmmm... i never noticed that! :P