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Really don't know what to think of this. There's nothing new and I don't know what this article should tell us about the situation. Maybe that Brian and Al still like each other?


Found the link on the blueboard:

http://www.dailynews.com/ci_8615654?source=rss (http://www.dailynews.com/ci_8615654?source=rss)

I don't know that Brian "rarely" tours, in that he does more touring than recording these days...

I'd be interested in seeing/hearing Brian's reaction to Al claiming he hated Spector's 'Wall Of Sound" production!

 :police: Being that Mike was late to show up it only shows how unimportant this is for him. Too bad it isn't still about the musci and pleasing the fans. Except of course in Al's and brian's eyes.... and hearts.

It hard to get a take on what Mike thinks, but it's nice that Al and Brian are getting along.

Most desirable BB's related boot yet?  :)

Sounds like Al was trying to reassure Brian that he was as great or greater than Spector - wonder what Brian said to Al to get him on that subject?

It doesn't surprize me that Al the folkie wasn't a big fan of the spector wall of sound - way too avant garde for his taste.  And I don't agree that the beat was lost - sometimes that's all that can be discerned in the wash of echo, the pianos/basses/drums/guitars/percusion keeping the beat!

Yeah, but isn't "beaks of eagles" pretty avant garde? 

"Mr. Love and Mr. Jardine are looking forward to bringing more Beach Boys music around the world as the group approaches its 50th anniversary," DiMare said.



...In what form I wonder?

That's easy: greatest hits reissues.

OK, naive question of the year....What does that judge's comment mean? Does it mean that Mike and Al reached a truce and Al is free to rejoin the Beach Boys?

I think it means that they can now continue to tour separately with no lawsuits hanging over their heads.  I don't think they'll be back together any time soon.

Considering the various Greatest Hits type compilations of the last 5 years, how did Al using the BB name 'in concert' effect things?

Him using the name didn't prevent all of them from issuing bb's greatest hits cd's... the comment above from them is what's called "b.s.", it's when people are expected to say something so they just think up something that sounds nice and say that, then everybody goes "Oh, O.K!".

So basically it'll be business as usual, the good thing though is that at least Al doesn't have a lawsuit against him at the present.  Actually I think this is the last lawsuit that's still current, right? 

This trial is getting a lot of press coverage, just worsening Mike Love's name

I agree it's more negative coverage for Mike and the group. The words "Mike Love" and "lawsuit" in the same sentence are starting to become commonplace in the press.

However, I also think Al Jardine appears as a sad figure, with those silly band names he had/has to come up with just to sell tickets. And when he sees how many (or lack of) solo albums he's about to sell as simply Al Jardine...

Why does Al have to include "The Beach Boys" name anyway? It was Dennis Wilson, solo artist - separate from The Beach Boys . Carl Wilson toured solo. Brian of course. And, at least Mike fought for The Beach Boys' name because he knew he couldn't continue a career simply as Mike Love (I'm giving him credit there!).

In these recent articles/interviews, Al tries to make these profound statements. He's embarrassing himself. 

After Carl's passing and the contracted gigs were fulfilled, Mike & Bruce went out as America's Band. Couldn't get arrested, so they asked BRI for permission to use the franchise name, and that's where the license scheme originated.

"However, I also think Al Jardine appears as a sad figure, with those silly band names he had/has to come up with just to sell tickets. And when he sees how many (or lack of) solo albums he's about to sell as simply Al Jardine..."

Let me guess: you were a butterfly in your past life and Al pulled your wings off. What have you got against him?  Jeez, you're a bilious motherfucker, aren't you? ;)

Take two and call me in the morning.

Maybe the delay on TLOS is because the BB are going to record it.....


 :lol

I just got some "inside information" on the terms of the settlement. The judge considered any new solo albums from any of the Beach Boys to be cruel and unusual punishment. So he is ruling the following:

Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks (aka The Beach Boys) must report to Al Jardine's barn in January 2009. A steady supply of food and beverages will be provided. At that time, Rick Rubin will be introduced to the group as co-producer (with Brian Wilson) for a new album, titled Seasons In The Sun, to be recorded and released as part of The Beach Boys' 50th Anniversary celebration. An accompanying DVD, directed by Martin Scorsese, will feature the recording of the album and a special 50th Anniversary concert. The details are as follows:

The Beach Boys - Seasons In The Sun (the album) - produced by Brian Wilson & Rick Rubin

1. Brian Wilson composed song
2. "
3. "
4. "
5. "
6. Mike Love composed song
7. "
8. Al Jardine composed song
9. "
10. Bruce Johnston composed song
11. "
12. David marks composed song
13. "
14. Sea Cruise - vocal by Dennis Wilson, remixed & remastered
15. Seasons In The Sun - vocal by Carl Wilson, remixed & remastered

The Beach Boys - Seasons In The Sun (the concert) - directed by Martin Scorsese

Highlights:

"Concert Introduction" by Fred Vail
"Be True To Your School" featuring The Honeys
"Dance Dance Dance"/"Do You Wanna Dance" - featuring Glen Campbell & Hal Blaine
"Sail On Sailor" featuring Blondie Chaplin and Ricki Fataar
"Barbara Ann" featuring Dean Torrence
"Help Me Rhonda" featuring Ed Carter, Billy Hinsche, Mike Kowalski, Bobby Figueroa, Jeff Foskett, Richie Cannata, and Charles Lloyd
"Good Vibrations" featuring The Beach Boys' children
"Fun, Fun, Fun" featuring the entire cast

I have to go now, Jim Morrison's at the door, Bob Dylan's on the phone, and I'm meeting Paul McCartney for some English tea... :police:

Beach Boys End Their Legal Dispute


By THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: March 22, 2008
A long legal dispute over the rights to the Beach Boys’ name has been settled. After a two-day conference in Superior Court in Los Angeles, two original members of the group, Al Jardine and Mike Love, reached an agreement over use of the name on Wednesday, The Associated Press reported. The Beach Boys were founded in 1961 by Carl, Dennis and Brian Wilson, above; Mr. Love, their cousin; and a friend, Mr. Jardine. Dennis Wilson died in 1983, and Carl Wilson died in 1998. Mr. Love had sued Mr. Jardine, claiming Mr. Jardine improperly used versions of the name while fronting his own band. A federal judge ruled in 2000 that Mr. Jardine was engaging in trademark infringement for touring under names including Beach Boys Family & Friends, and that Mr. Love, a co-founder and one of the original lead singers, was sole licensee of the name. A federal appeals court upheld that ruling in 2003. Mr. Love and Carl Wilson’s estate sued Mr. Jardine again in 2004 for $2.2 million in legal fees spent in the original litigation against him. It was that case, set for trial in April, that was settled this week. Details of the settlement were not disclosed, but lawyers suggested it could pave the way for a reunion of the band’s three surviving founders.

C'mon people, one big lawsuit regarding this topic is enough at the moment...  ::)

e'll kiss and make up and join the others at the barn   :)

Ironically, I hear there are plans for yet another Beach Boys "greatest hits" compilation...

http://www.musictap.net/Archives/Posts/Posts08/ArchivalPosts2008Mar0915.html#031408  (scroll down to March 12th)

I copied the paragraph, so that one gets easier to read it.

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080327/FEATURES/803270704/1006/SPORTS

Vibes good again for Love
 
By Gerry Galipault
Published Thursday, March 27, 2008 at 4:30 a.m.

Mike Love is in an exceptionally good mood, and not just because his nephew, UCLA freshman center Keith Love, is in the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Division I basketball playoffs.


Love is relieved that he and former Beach Boys member Al Jardine have settled their long-standing legal dispute over the use of the band's name, avoiding what could have been a lengthy trial.

In his first interview after the deal was announced Friday, Love says the Beach Boys -- who will play Sunday night at Sarasota's Van Wezel Performing Arts Hall -- can finally focus entirely on music and not courtrooms.

"That is such good news, to finally resolve a case that's been going on for five years and has cost jillions of dollars," he said over the phone. "Time heals all wounds, as they say, so now we can start thinking about being creative again, whether it's individually or collectively. When that psychic drain has been lifted from your lives, you can get more creative."

Details of the settlement were not disclosed, but Jardine's lawyer said his client was pleased with the result.

Love says he even had a nice chat with Jardine after the two-day mediation session in Los Angeles Superior Court.

"On the way out of the courtroom, Al and I were talking about music and what he's doing with Stephen Stills and that he's recording 'Help Me Rhonda' with Steve Miller," Love said. "He also sang this song to me that he's been working on, and I said, 'That's great.' We were talking about creative things for a change, rather than being at odds."

Love sued Jardine, claiming that he fronted a group that used various versions of the Beach Boys name. Love is the sole licensee to perform under the name.

The band was founded in 1961 by Love; brothers Brian, Carl and Dennis Wilson; and Jardine, Brian's childhood friend. (Dennis drowned in 1983; Carl died of cancer in 1998.)

Love says he and longtime Beach Boy Bruce Johnston are looking forward to returning to the Van Wezel, which he calls "the purple cow."

"I've always liked personal appearances better than recording," he said.

Recording has "always been Brian's thing. He always preferred the studio and didn't like touring. But now, he's told me, as recently as last Tuesday, that he likes going out, seeing the crowds and playing his music. I said, 'It's great. You get to be Brian Wilson again.' "

Could there be a "Kokomo" in the Beach Boys' future?

"That's a distinct possibility," Love said, referring to their 1988 hit, which was used in the Tom Cruise film "Cocktail." It was the group's first No. 1 single since "Good Vibrations" in 1966.

"There's a lot to talk about us being creative again, because in a few years it'll be the 50th anniversary of the Beach Boys, which is nuts," he said.

"Right now, I'm totally into writing. In fact, I've stockpiled about 20 songs and Al's in about the same category, and Brian told me just a few days ago that 'My head is full of music. That's all I think about. I get depressed sometimes, but mainly I just think about music.' "Love says the group, which performs 170 shows a year, would like to do a live disc, an album with a symphony orchestra and an album of new material.
"Also, Barry Manilow and Rod Stewart shouldn't be the only ones to rerecord old songs and sell a million records," Love said, with a laugh. "There's lots of songs we could do, but we've just been so dysfunctional for the last 10 years."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this story.

Some interesting quotes in there, right?  8)