The Smiley Smile Message Board

Smiley Smile Stuff => General On Topic Discussions => Topic started by: DJ M on February 14, 2008, 03:21:43 PM



Title: Kokomo: Original version vs. Cover version
Post by: DJ M on February 14, 2008, 03:21:43 PM
http://idolator.com/356611/can-a-good-cover-rescue-a-song-from-drowning-in-its-bad-production


Title: Re: Kokomo: Original version vs. Cover version
Post by: Jonas on February 14, 2008, 05:44:24 PM
The music sounds good but their vocals are terrible.



Title: Re: Kokomo: Original version vs. Cover version
Post by: Aegir on February 14, 2008, 10:04:28 PM
I don't have time to click on that link, but I never had a problem with Kokomo from a pure musical standpoint. I thought the reason people didn't like Kokomo is because of what happened from it, and what it turned the Beach Boys into, not because of the production.

Like Endless Summer. All the songs on it are top notch, but I absolutely hate it for what it turned the Beach Boys into.


Title: Re: Kokomo: Original version vs. Cover version
Post by: DJ M on February 15, 2008, 05:09:00 PM
For the time pressed, here's what this blog post says (sans links & video):

As my family was making its annual trip down the coast of Texas to favorite Girls Gone Wild destination South Padre Island last summer, my parents called me (we were in two cars) to ask who on earth was singing the fantastic cover of the Beach Boys' song "Kokomo" they were listening to. (The track--which was by Adam Green and Ben Kweller--happened to be on one of the many peculiar mix CDs that my friends perpetually store on my car's floor.) Sure, anything involving the Moldy Peaches' Green is always going to have at least a slight twinge of merda-eating irony, but Kweller's interminably sincere presence adds gravity to the track, and the instrumentation (a definite Green strength) is beautiful. Long story short: it's a knockout cover. But is it better than the original?

First of all, let's leave all Beach Boys songs besides "Kokomo" out of this. I have enough respect for the band's body of work to not put Adam Green and Ben Kweller anywhere near the Boys' league. But "Kokomo" is a prime example of the crappy-production plague that struck so many once-great artists in the '80s (Jimmy Buffett, I am looking you square in the face). The band's harmonies are still dead-on, but the rest is a bit like watermelon Bubblicious: sweet, but somehow depressing. Maybe it's John Stamos on the drums, or the absence of Brian Wilson, or the complete lack of bass guitar (I see it in the video but I don't hear it).

Whatever it is, the Beach Boys' original version lacks heft. And if there's one thing that Green can add to a song it's luxurious production. Of course Green also sings incredibly vulgar nonsense in an affected lounge-singer style, so a solo cover probably wouldn't have come off quite as charming as a collaboration with sweet, goofy Ben Kweller. Their combined talents and sensibilities surpass the Beach Boys' pastel original.

Is anyone with me on this? Or am I justing continuing my alienation streak? Furthermore, how often, if ever is a cover superior to the original?


Title: Re: Kokomo: Original version vs. Cover version
Post by: the captain on February 15, 2008, 05:22:20 PM
The music sounds good but their vocals are terrible.



Those were my thoughts. Unlike Aegir, I do hate the original production...just despise it. There's nothing stellar about this version, either, but straight-ahead is usually preferable to overdone in my book, and so stripping the 80s out only helps. But yeah, those vocals are not good. Sometimes during the harmonies they sound all right, but for the most part, meh.

By the way, we did this sort of a topic (whether covers ever exceed the originals) in the general music thread a while back.


Title: Re: Kokomo: Original version vs. Cover version
Post by: Alex on February 16, 2008, 04:21:48 PM
Ben Kweller shoud've had the lead vocal instead of Adam Green. Kweller's voice made the harmony parts bearable.


Title: Re: Kokomo: Original version vs. Cover version
Post by: Dutchie on February 17, 2008, 02:29:04 AM
i think its been removed because i cant hear the song and it wont play ???