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Title: Get The Boot
Post by: Jay on January 01, 2008, 10:11:01 PM
Does anybody have this two CD set? There are some very cool things on it. Like the 1965(?) and 1970 versions of Back Home. I think Brian should do Rollin' Up To Heaven in concert.  ;D My favorite song on it is probably I'm Going Your Way. When I first heard it, my reaction was "Holy sh*t what a song!!!". Who on earth didn't like this enough for it not to make the cut on an album?


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: shelter on January 02, 2008, 02:58:57 AM
Who on earth didn't like this enough for it not to make the cut on an album?

Learning to live with the fact that some things just don't make any sense is an important part of being a Beach Boys fan.  ;)


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Bicyclerider on January 02, 2008, 07:24:56 AM
I suspect the reason I'm going your way didn't make it on to Sunflower is that Dennis's attentions went to Slip On Through and I'ts About Time, and then his allotment of songs for the album was up.  I'm Going Your Way was never finished.  I don't know why it wasn't put on the "Landlocked" tape reel of songs for consideration for Surf's Up, however - Dennis must not have wanted to continue to work on it for some reason.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: DJ M on January 02, 2008, 10:26:01 AM
Check these links for a full review:

DISC 1
http://uncanny1.blogspot.com/2005/04/getting-boots.html

DISC 2
http://uncanny1.blogspot.com/2005/04/get-boot-disc-two.html


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on January 02, 2008, 08:16:38 PM
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12. New England Waltz – Adult/Child outtake, ’77, poor sound, instrumental
13. FAKE
14. California Feelin’ – features former Playgirl pinup Rushton “Rocky” Pamplin on lead voc.; Rocky joined American Spring for one year (’77 – ’78); tune was written by Brian Wilson/Steve Kalinich, cut by American Spring

Fake? Which track was that supposed to be? I used to have this, but I don't anymore, so I can't remember what track that was originally.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: TonyW on January 02, 2008, 08:49:22 PM
Track 13: Unknown Istrumental

So what's the story? Was this track used as a thumb print to find the leak?


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 03, 2008, 12:02:38 AM
The famous 'tracker'.  :)


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 03, 2008, 12:08:28 AM
Check these links for a full review:

DISC 1
http://uncanny1.blogspot.com/2005/04/getting-boots.html

DISC 2
http://uncanny1.blogspot.com/2005/04/get-boot-disc-two.html


Some of the dates on these are off by a few years, plus the following are a bit inaccurate:

17. Boogie Woogie Intro – poor sound, instrumental, perhaps it's an Endless Summer Beach Band track, ca. 1981

-  instrumental track for the song "(We're The) Endless Summer Beach Band", used by Mike & Co as in introduction at thier live shows.

23. Angel Come Home – early, loose demo w/out voc.; this version is a Dennis solo recording; it was re-recorded by the Beach Boys for L.A. album; this early version can be found on the “Surfin’ Rarities Vol. 3” boot

- not a DW solo recording, but Carl's early crack at the song, circa summer 1976


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Jay on January 03, 2008, 08:41:34 PM
I have a question about "Here She Comes" and "I've Got A Friend". When, and where were they recorded? That review says that "I've Got A Friend" was recorded from a radio show. Sorry, but there is no way that this came from a radio broadcast. The sound quality is HORRIBLE.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: smile-holland on January 03, 2008, 11:21:24 PM
I have a question about "Here She Comes" and "I've Got A Friend". When, and where were they recorded? That review says that "I've Got A Friend" was recorded from a radio show. Sorry, but there is no way that this came from a radio broadcast. The sound quality is HORRIBLE.

I don't think "Here She Comes" and "I've Got A Friend" were from the same gig.

"I've Got A Friend" is from the Radio Luxembourg-broadcast; the concert was held (and broadcasted) on May 10th 1972. From what I know the weather that day/evening in Europe was terrible in most countries, causing the broadcast to be received badly on many places. Which explains that the recordings that surfaced later on were of average quality. (+ that tape-copies tend to deteriorate a bit after a 20/30+ years...).

I don't have an exact date or location for "Here She Comes", but it's definitely not the same concert as in Luxembourg (I happen to able to compare these recordings). O, and my Get The Boot-pressing mentions "late 1972" for this version.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 04, 2008, 12:37:12 AM
I have a question about "Here She Comes" and "I've Got A Friend". When, and where were they recorded? That review says that "I've Got A Friend" was recorded from a radio show. Sorry, but there is no way that this came from a radio broadcast. The sound quality is HORRIBLE.

OK, in accordance with one of my New Year's resoultions, I won't say what I usually do when someone makes such an arrogant, definitive and totally misinformed statement.  ;D

Back then, very few folk had recorders that could tape inline fron a radio, hence this is an open air (mic placed in front of speaker) recording. Additionally, the reception of Luxemburg at night was legendarily erratic at the best of times.

So, my humble apologies for contradicting you, but yes, it is a radio broadcast.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Jay on January 04, 2008, 01:11:56 AM
If I sounded like an arrogant misinformed know-it-all, I didn't mean to. It just really sounded like a terrible audience recording typical of that time period.

It is I, who is humbled. It isn't everyday that somebody gets to be corrected by Andrew G. Doe.  :)


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 04, 2008, 02:05:41 AM
It is I, who is humbled. It isn't everyday that somebody gets to be corrected by Andrew G. Doe.  :)

Stick around, you'll get used to it.  ;D

Seriously, those of us raised on listening to Luxy with a cheap tranny* under the bedclothes got used to the signal fading out at inappropriate moments.

(* not an inexpensive cross-dresser, I hasten to add)


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Loaf on January 04, 2008, 05:48:57 AM
So what was the name of the fake track?

This 'tracker' stuff sounds sneaky, and i like it!


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: the captain on January 04, 2008, 12:55:46 PM

Seriously, those of us raised on listening to Luxy with a cheap tranny* under the bedclothes got used to the signal fading out at inappropriate moments.

(* not an inexpensive cross-dresser, I hasten to add)

Damn, I was really looking forward to reading the rest of the post, but that asterisk ruined all my fun.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: DJ M on January 05, 2008, 01:20:17 PM
So what was the name of the fake track?

This 'tracker' stuff sounds sneaky, and i like it!

If I remember correctly, the "fake" track is something by Miles Davis & Gil Evans.  Also, many thanks to AGD re corrections to my original review.  When I did that review, there was not much info to go by, just what little I cld find on the internet, in books, etc.  I probably even jacked some data from AGD's site as well, sorry for not giving you explicit credit!

Getting specific info re "unofficial" tracks is a murky affair, as you can imagine.  I did my best to pin down these tracks as best I could with the info available at the time.  This is an ongoing process, that will likely go on forever; or at least as long as stray tracks leak out.  Given the abundance of unreleased/unofficial BB/BW tracks, I believe there's still a lot out there to dig into.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Mr. Wilson on January 05, 2008, 02:14:00 PM
Yea i have a copy of that broadcast.. Without gettin up to look ..I believe it had 4-6 songs only.. Actually i felt lucky to find that cdr..It was something listed in the book "Surfs Up".. And i never thought i"d find that and be able to hear it ..!!!!!


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: DonnaK on January 06, 2008, 12:33:14 PM
Does anybody have this two CD set? There are some very cool things on it. Like the 1965(?) and 1970 versions of Back Home. I think Brian should do Rollin' Up To Heaven in concert.  ;D My favorite song on it is probably I'm Going Your Way. When I first heard it, my reaction was "Holy merda what a song!!!". Who on earth didn't like this enough for it not to make the cut on an album?

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Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: 49ersphil on January 07, 2008, 04:45:46 AM
Does anybody have this two CD set? There are some very cool things on it. Like the 1965(?) and 1970 versions of Back Home. I think Brian should do Rollin' Up To Heaven in concert.  ;D My favorite song on it is probably I'm Going Your Way. When I first heard it, my reaction was "Holy merda what a song!!!". Who on earth didn't like this enough for it not to make the cut on an album?

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Hey Donna. It's Phil in UK.

Welcome to the forum  :)


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: smile-holland on January 07, 2008, 08:51:32 AM
Please note that's it's not allowed to offer bootlegs openly on this board (check the rules and guidelines).
And although the deleted message above maybe didn't have the intention to do so directly, it can be interpreted like that. Especially the combination of the link, offering the artwork and mentioning one makes copies. So therefor we removed it.

Btw, reading his message, I think Jay already has it.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: 49ersphil on January 07, 2008, 09:44:46 AM
Yeah, it's against the rules. Don't do it again, Donna!

She is, however, a great BB fan (particularly Dennis) and I'm glad to see her here  :)



Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: smile-holland on January 07, 2008, 09:52:36 AM
Yeah, it's against the rules. Don't do it again, Donna!

She is, however, a great BB fan (particularly Dennis) and I'm glad to see her here  :)

I know Phil, I don't think it was done intentionally. And I definitely look forward to see her post here more in the future.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Jay on January 08, 2008, 09:25:15 PM
Have any of the songs on Get The Boot been bootlegged NOT as mp3's?


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: smile-holland on January 09, 2008, 01:42:12 AM
Have any of the songs on Get The Boot been bootlegged NOT as mp3's?

I've seen several different copies in shops and recordfairs which looked like a "real" boot-release... but I suspect them all containing the original mp3 sourced tracks.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: The Shift on January 09, 2008, 06:28:12 AM
Hope this helps - dunno whether they're MP3 or not but sound is much improved to my ears.

On Sea of Tunes' The Garage Tapes:
Beginning of the End (Takes 1-5; Take 6; vocal overdub on Take 9a; vocal overdub on Take 9b; guitar overdub attempt)

On Sea of Tunes' All This Is That:
Won't You Tell Me
It's a New Day
Hard Time(s)
Runnin(g) Bear
Short Skirts
Shake, Rattle & Roll
Had to Phone Ya
Da Doo Ron Ron
Oh Darlin'



Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: king of anglia on January 09, 2008, 09:50:59 AM
All this stuff is mp3 sourced: Get The Boot, The Garage Tapes, All This Is That.

Damn shame.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Bicyclerider on January 09, 2008, 12:14:04 PM
All This is That and Garage Tapes are not mp3 sourced, at least not on the original CD's - if you've downloaded them from somewhere, they may be mp3sourced.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: SloopJohnB on January 09, 2008, 12:25:29 PM
All This is That and Garage Tapes are not mp3 sourced, at least not on the original CD's - if you've downloaded them from somewhere, they may be mp3sourced.

Some people have analyzed the audio spectrum of these tracks and concluded that they were mp3 sourced indeed, even on the original CDs.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Ebb and Flow on January 09, 2008, 12:44:16 PM
Which says a lot about where they were sourced from...  :-\


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: DonnaK on January 11, 2008, 06:02:53 AM
Hello all and thanks for the welcome!
I am truly sorry if I broke the rule, but I am finding it difficult to see where the line is drawn regarding the subject of what a "boot" is. Can it be freely talked about when it is in mp3 form? I didn't mean to cross the line, just wanted to share the music. It is great to hear unreleased or whatever music by the BB/BW, since we all have such a great interest in it. We all know they are out there, and most of us have some of it, but I don't understand why we can't discuss it. But, I WILL play by the rules. I just wanted to know where GTB started, the Garage Tapes as well. If there is such a demand for it I don't get why we can't share it.

Thanks,
Donna

Hey there Phil, hope all is well!!!


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on January 11, 2008, 09:55:02 PM
"I've Got A Friend" is from the Radio Luxembourg-broadcast; the concert was held (and broadcasted) on May 10th 1972. From what I know the weather that day/evening in Europe was terrible in most countries, causing the broadcast to be received badly on many places. Which explains that the recordings that surfaced later on were of average quality. (+ that tape-copies tend to deteriorate a bit after a 20/30+ years...).

LONG LOST SURF SONGS VOLUME 4 has a less muddled recording of this song compared to the one that is on GET THE BOOT.


Title: Re: Get The Boot
Post by: humanoidboogie on January 12, 2008, 03:35:35 AM
Have any of the songs on Get The Boot been bootlegged NOT as mp3's?

There's the one disc "convention" version of 'Get The Boot', and if I remember correctly a few of the tracks there ISN'T mp3 sourced. I'll have to re-check this, though.