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Title: Brief Anecdote Re "Barbara Ann" ca. '65 From Ken Mansfield
Post by: DJ M on November 19, 2007, 10:24:30 AM
According to a review of a new book, "The White Book: The Beatles, the Bands, the Biz: An Insider's Look at an Era" by Ken Mansfield:

http://newsblaze.com/story/20070601073604tsop.np/topstory.html

"Being snubbed for life by Beach Boys leader Brian Wilson in 1965, when [Ken]Mansfield, then the National Promotion Manager at Capitol Records, tried to discourage Brian from releasing the band's loose, party jam, "Barbara Ann" as a single - Brian gave him a furious glare and ignored his advice, and the record eventually became a worldwide smash."

It's hard to imagine Brian giving anyone a "furious" glare.

I have not yet read this book; but a copy is supposedly in the mail on its way to me.  It's mostly about the Beatles, but maybe there are a few more BB/BW tidbits thrown-in.


Title: Re: Brief Anecdote Re \
Post by: Howie Edelson on November 19, 2007, 10:53:00 AM
That's it for the BB's in the book, and the incident actually got him pulled from working with the Beach Boys. I just interviewed Ken extensively, and reminded him that there was a reason for his doubts as to hit-potential of "Barbara Ann" -- namely the failure "The Little Girl I Once Knew." He agreed but said he had forgotten to mention it in the book. Highly, highly recomended read. A really sweet guy too.


Title: Re: Brief Anecdote Re \
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on November 19, 2007, 05:14:14 PM
"Being snubbed for life by Beach Boys leader Brian Wilson in 1965, when [Ken]Mansfield, then the National Promotion Manager at Capitol Records, tried to discourage Brian from releasing the band's loose, party jam, "Barbara Ann" as a single - Brian gave him a furious glare and ignored his advice, and the record eventually became a worldwide smash."

That's interesting, because, for years, I read that the story was the other way around. I thought it was Capitol Records' idea to release "Barbara Ann" and actually caught the group off guard. I thought I heard an interview somewhere (with Mike?) that they didn't know "Barbara Ann" was a single until he/they heard it on the radio.


Title: Re: Brief Anecdote Re \
Post by: XY on November 19, 2007, 09:28:16 PM
That's interesting, because, for years, I read that the story was the other way around. I thought it was Capitol Records' idea to release "Barbara Ann" and actually caught the group off guard. I thought I heard an interview somewhere (with Mike?) that they didn't know "Barbara Ann" was a single until he/they heard it on the radio.

That's the story the BB told over the years. But on the other hand, the boys knew that "Barbara Ann" had potential, because they performed it on the Jack Benny Show on October 22, 1965 to promote the upcoming Party-album.


Title: Re: Brief Anecdote Re \
Post by: c-man on November 20, 2007, 04:57:24 AM
In a similar way, Brad Elliott claims to have uncovered a Capitol Records memo to the effect that Brian insisted "Sloop John B." be included on "Pet Sounds", which debunks another long-established myth.  Maybe someone here has seen that memo, and maybe there's more to that story...


Title: Re: Brief Anecdote Re \
Post by: Bicyclerider on November 20, 2007, 10:04:19 AM
The story I remember is that Brad uncovered an early Pet sounds track list by Brian that had Sloop John B on it - showing that he intended it to be on the album all along.


Title: Re: Brief Anecdote Re \
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 20, 2007, 11:56:34 AM
It's in the booklet for the 1st mono/stereo reissue of Pet Sounds in 1999. Memo dates from circa 23 February 1966.


Title: Re: Brief Anecdote Re \
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on November 20, 2007, 01:43:21 PM
But on the other hand, the boys knew that "Barbara Ann" had potential, because they performed it on the Jack Benny Show on October 22, 1965 to promote the upcoming Party-album.

And that might be my favorite version of the song. It really rocks. It's short, but rocks.