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Title: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Charles LePage @ ComicList on November 17, 2007, 08:22:55 AM
I'll start.

I like his book.  Both editions.

I like his beard, too.

I like the fact he is ten years older than me.

Thanks, Andrew.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: SloopJohnB on November 17, 2007, 08:36:15 AM
Andrew fucking rocks. One of the people I admire and respect the most in the BB world, even if his ears aren't what they used to be (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,3569.0.html)... But that's age I guess  ;D

(and I voted no, by the way)


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jon Stebbins on November 17, 2007, 09:03:18 AM
I like the way he gets under people's skin when he points out to them they posted something stupid.

I like the way he helps me when I'm working my ass off on a book and I email him with some odd question at 2 a.m. UK time and he answers it in like 30 seconds.

I hate the way he gets under my skin when he points out to me that I posted something stupid.

Humor aside...he's an excellent historian, and we could use a few more with his attention to detail.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Loaf on November 17, 2007, 09:06:47 AM
we're lucky to have so many knowledgable people hanging around this board.

For some reason i have always pictured AGD to look like the guy from the Monkees' Head CD. Probably because i used to mix up Andrew G Doe and Andrew Sandoval, who wrote the liners for the Monkees reissues.

i think the guy was some random guy who worked for the design company.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: SG7 on November 17, 2007, 09:42:41 AM
He has a cool hat

He is a nice guy too

He is very funny also  :)


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: c-man on November 17, 2007, 10:10:53 AM
Andrew Doe was one of my main sources of BBs knowledge back in the '80s, when there was no internet and not that many books available on the topic of our Boys.  Every so often a copy of STOMP! would arrive in the mail, and I always sought out his writings first, because I knew they'd always provide some worthwhile news or knowledge.  He did things us average fans could only dream about, such as fly to L.A., interview Bruce and hang with the Boys at a studio mixdown session for their new album, actually meet Brian and get to watch while he played "Rhapsody" on the piano, and also meet and interview some of the other great players in their history (Britz, Desper, Parks,  Jasper Daily, etc.).

Later, when I launched my beachboysarchives website, he was one of my primary influences, both research-wise and writing style-wise.

These days (internet days), he's a quick and reliable source to pose quick questions that require a reliable answer.

Three cheers, Andrew!


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bubba Ho-Tep on November 17, 2007, 10:12:52 AM
I  like  him. 


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on November 17, 2007, 12:49:43 PM
He is kind enough to answer my question(s) even though he has answered the same question 40 times before.  And his taste and judgement in BB music is spot on (in my opinion)!


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: RONDEMON on November 17, 2007, 02:02:06 PM
I like him as well.
Though I wish he would describe his personal run-ins with the boys more often..
There is probably some comic gold in there somewhere.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 17, 2007, 02:17:40 PM
Not just the Boys... ;) ::)

Many thanks for the kind words, people. Much appreciated.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jonas on November 17, 2007, 02:21:43 PM
:lol :lol :lol


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Alan Boyd on November 17, 2007, 02:21:57 PM
Yes - I like AGD, too.   I'm proud to call him a friend.  He offered some much-needed and welcome support and encouragement during a difficult time (that had nothing to do with the BBs, by the way) and I'll always be grateful for that.

And we both like a lot of the same music....

Alan


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: the captain on November 17, 2007, 02:42:43 PM
Andrew seeks out, posts and sticks to facts and evidence when it's often much more interesting or romantic to go with legends.

And he usually writes in complete, grammatically correct sentences filled with properly spelled words.

It's hard for me to decide which of those two things about him I like more.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: matt-zeus on November 17, 2007, 04:22:32 PM
A fine fellow!  :)

His original 'Complete guide..' book is one of my favourite books ever!


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Dancing Bear on November 17, 2007, 04:58:57 PM
Andrew's website is great and it's free. what more can you ask? Atractive webdesign?  ;)


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mahalo on November 17, 2007, 05:37:54 PM
I liked AGD singing Soul Searchin' at the last convention...... :rock


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: mikeyj on November 17, 2007, 05:56:22 PM
He is kind enough to answer my question(s) even though he has answered the same question 40 times before.  And his taste and judgement in BB music is spot on (in my opinion)!

I agree with that. Except he likes LBWL, but I'll let him off for that :P

In all seriousness though, AGD is what makes this board (and every other Beach Boys message board that he posts on) so great. Luther summed it up when he said that he "sticks to facts and evidence when it's often much more interesting or romantic to go with legends"... I couldn't agree more. For example he was the one who first pointed out to me that Brians autobiography was anything but and I suppose if he hadn't done so then I would still be believing that every word was Brian's.

I also like AGD because he admits when he's wrong as well (which isn't very often mind you) which I suppose is what any great historian does (ie: keeps searching and learning the facts as they become available). But as has been said, the fact that he gives us so much of his time to answer a question that he's probably answered about 1000 times before is what makes him such a special asset to the message boards around the internet.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: busy doin nothin on November 17, 2007, 06:03:23 PM
As far as knowledge of the BBs (and related topics) is concerned, AGD is a God.  John Updike once wrote (about Ted Williams) that Gods do not answer letters.  But Andrew comes on here and answers our BB letters all the time.  This board would not be the same without him.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on November 17, 2007, 07:06:28 PM
I consider Andrew a friend, and I respect the fact that he's a straight shooter. He'll tell you how it is, and that's that, no BS.

Quote
Andrew seeks out, posts and sticks to facts and evidence when it's often much more interesting or romantic to go with legends.

And he usually writes in complete, grammatically correct sentences filled with properly spelled words.

It's hard for me to decide which of those two things about him I like more.

Agreed 100x. When dealing with the BB, there's so many myths, half-truths, and deception, someone like Andrew is sorely needed.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Ian on November 17, 2007, 07:30:55 PM
I agree with all that was said. When I first began to get involved in actually researching BB history- I found AGD's site to always be the most factual and reliable of all that was out there and I like his book very much.  He always answers questions put to him and continues to be interested in getting the facts right.  On a personal note- AGD graciously offered to give me a home for all the research into the BB's concert history that I had done-which turned out great. AGD put alot of time into the Sessions aspect and got alot of correct session info from people in the know-so that our Gigs/Sessions site is the real deal- almost all correct facts (and if anyone knows of any that are wrong we are ready to correct it).  AGD has been great about all the emails I send him with changes and corrections and additions to the concert info- so a great fellow-even though I have never met him or even talked to him outside of email I feel that I know him


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: c-man on November 17, 2007, 09:14:58 PM
With everything Andrew does for everybody, I have to wonder...does he ever sleep?
:)


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on November 17, 2007, 10:08:23 PM
Very carefully.

:lol


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Smilin Ed H on November 18, 2007, 03:05:48 AM
I've always loved the BB's music, but while I'm considerably better read on the topic (and have heard and/or acquired many more bootlegs) since I first started visiting related websites (primarily the old Cab board and the current Shut Down), the source of most of my knowledge on the band is AGD, a man remarkably generous with his time and patience.

Thanks. 


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Val on November 18, 2007, 05:59:35 AM
We love him just the way he is.

BBB just wouldn't be the same without his input and his Bellagio site is one of the very best BB resources there is.

I've known him for a long time now (scary, when I think back to early Stomp days...) and I think that the way some of our mutual friends describe him, just about sums him up, very nicely:

A Cuddly Old Bear covered by a Toad's outfit. 

Yeah!

Said with much love and appreciation x



Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Beach Boy on November 18, 2007, 07:09:49 AM
Andrew rules! It's not just his (great) infos, he is a funny and very nice guy!  :)


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: 8o8o on November 18, 2007, 07:17:57 AM
He's the one who adds to the "Good Vibes" (sound familiar?  ::)) on this board!

Cheers Andrew for all your contributions over the years!

Where would we be without you?


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: XY on November 18, 2007, 07:37:56 AM
Great knowledge. Always answers mails within 10 minutes anytime a day. The beard looks OK. Don't ban him from the board.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Robav63 on November 18, 2007, 07:58:50 AM
AGD was very helpful back in the 80's for supplying me with cassettes of unreleased BB's stuff that was to give me aural orgasms.

I still have those old cassettes hanging around somewhere so cheers again Andrew.

Oh, and beards rule  ;)


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Val on November 18, 2007, 08:20:22 AM
Oh, and beards rule  ;)

OH YES

Hats, too?
 :hat
(but no smoking..well, not figurately speaking anyway...) ;)


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on November 18, 2007, 02:08:34 PM
A+++ for trivia. I mean that in a good way. ;D

If anyone wanted to start a BB pop-quiz thread. He would get my vote for quiz-master.



Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jonas on November 18, 2007, 03:40:22 PM
If anyone wanted to start a BB pop-quiz thread. He would get my vote for quiz-master.

Have you seen the Smiley Smile quiz that smile-holland put together? He would get my vote!


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on November 18, 2007, 04:04:06 PM
No!
Where's it at?


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: melissalynn on November 18, 2007, 04:35:23 PM
Wow, I'm late at finding this thread...

but AGD is an awesome fellow.

His website is one of my most frequent stops online. He is a vast human-book of knowledge.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jonas on November 18, 2007, 04:47:23 PM
No!
Where's it at?

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,4384.msg72461.html#msg72461


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on November 19, 2007, 12:30:18 AM
Excellent quiz. The guy should do some more like that... maybe make it a regualr feature.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: smile-holland on November 19, 2007, 02:12:11 AM
I thought this was the AGD-appreciation thread  ::)

Andrew might not be totally objective on this one as he was one of the winners of the contest....  ;D

But seriously: if it's appreciated I might try another quiz in the future. But mind you, don't think I'm the Beach Boys guru overhere. It took quite some effort to think of a few tough ones. Then again, a quiz with a larger amount of "easier" questions would certainly help getting more members to join in. Maybe a "joint venture" with another member / honoured guest is a possibility.



O, and I admit voting in favor of shaving the beard...just out of curiousity...


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on November 19, 2007, 06:25:15 PM
If Andrew shaves his beard (and posts a picture to prove it) I'll get my hair cut. Haven't cut it in about a year, so...

:lol


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Pretty Funky on November 19, 2007, 06:32:10 PM
Can we have a few answers on the quiz now thats its over? Mind if  I reprint on a new thread? Delete if not.


Edit

Found thread.  


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Susan on November 19, 2007, 07:25:19 PM
Ah, Andrew...a good friend who has also been a fine traveling companion and a double-fine convention guest.  And i agree that he's very funny, but as i've told him more than once, looks aren't everything...
;-)

You are appreciated for many reasons, Andrew, not least of which was your quiet, but quite vehement, support when i was trying to quit smoking.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: chris.metcalfe on November 20, 2007, 03:25:48 AM
I feel hono(u)r-bound to join the chorus of appreciation (though I'm not sure why at this particular point in time...did I miss something?). I too was one of the early BB Stomp subscribers who got to know AGD through the now almost forgotten medium of pen and paper - I'd write a few daft questions and he'd reply with several detailed sheets of ochre-coloured A4, sometimes with a tape to keep me happy for the rest of the year. Keeping my interest going during the dark days of the early 1980s was a great achievement, and he was on great form at the Smile gig I saw in London 3 years ago. Keep the beard!


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Alex on November 20, 2007, 03:52:25 AM
I'm a fairly recent arrival to this board, and all I really have to say about AGD is...fodaing amazing when it comes to BB-related stuff. He's helped me out a couple of times. KEEP THE BEARD!!!! >:D 8) :pirate


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: 49ersphil on November 20, 2007, 05:11:39 AM
I always enjoy Andrew's contributions and find his site extremely valuable.

Does Andrew have another career? Is he a general author or is everything BB related.

If it's all BB he has a dream job (well deserved) travelling the world researching the topic and attending concerts and conventions.



Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Bicyclerider on November 20, 2007, 10:06:27 AM
I would love to see a definitive, comprehensive biography of the Beach Boys (not just Brian, as that has been done or at least attempted) in two volumes done by Andrew.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on November 20, 2007, 10:09:38 AM
That'd freakin' rule.


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Val on November 21, 2007, 05:23:46 AM
Ah, Andrew...a good friend who has also been a fine traveling companion


Are you remembering Mousehole, Suze?  ;)

Ahh yes, we've (Suze, Andrew and I - aka the Three Mouseketeers!) had some good times, out and about, as it were. Travelling around Cornwall (summer 2002), finding our way through Bristol...and spending that very first SMiLE, Feb 2004 evening, together, in London.  Happy Days!

And all the better for their special company.  *Hugs*


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Val on November 21, 2007, 05:27:52 AM
I would love to see a definitive, comprehensive biography of the Beach Boys (not just Brian, as that has been done or at least attempted) in two volumes done by Andrew.

You have my vote, too. With a little help from his very good friends, of course  :)


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mr. Wilson on November 23, 2007, 12:19:26 AM
AHH.. AGD.. SEEMS to be a fine fellow.. With insight + Insiders view....With LOTS of connections....BUT.. He goes off on people sometimes with too much VINEGAR..!!!!!!!...Still enjoy his posts.. But  be careffull.. I say this with ..ALL do respect
And what is up with this board puttin in SMILLEY faces.. WHERE.. I did NOT.. Insert them..??????????????????????...........
I used to post on this board.. 99-02..Off line..02-06.. Lurked here 07.. TILL NOW.. Please explain..????.. This is where the BIG BOYS are... Bide my time till now.... Im an OLD fart that grew up same time as BB..California..I dont know didley.. Not connected..BUT.. I was THERE when it ALL happened...........SURFS UP.........!!


Title: Re: Andrew Doe (Beach Boys Author and Historian) Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mr. Wilson on November 27, 2007, 08:32:53 AM
ACTUALLY.. Id like to see a NEW Book from AGD... Whatever he has to offer is welcomed..!!!!!Really...!!!!