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Title: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 15, 2007, 03:19:37 AM
As you probably know, this august marks the 30th anniversary of Elvis Presley's passing.  I know, there's already a Elvis-thread here, but I thought I should start a new one, where we can "celebrate" Elvis the artist and not just, like everyone does, Elvis the myth. I hope some of you like this idea and maybe some others will learn new things about the great work of Elvis.


Anyway, I just found this on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=cristiotopeanu&p=r (http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=cristiotopeanu&p=r) (gotta scroll down a little)

To understand what this is, I should tell you that this year an independent label called Memphis Recording Service (http://www.memphisrecordingservice.com) released for the first time a professionelly filmed and recorded Elvis-concert from the 50s on DVD. The concert is the legendary '56 homecoming-concert in Tupelo (his birthplace).  All in all the DVD features around 15 min. of complete footage. For some songs only partial footage was found. Of course there's alot of other stuff on the DVD (both concerts, two were held that day, as audio, interviews, footage from the Tupelo-concert in '57, etc.)


I think this might become a great thread, hope that some people are even interested.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 15, 2007, 05:46:59 PM
Yes this is a good idea, why don't we start with his best live shows. I think as a whole my favorites are the February 1970 gigs in Vegas. He was in great shape, still doing the oldies well, and had a strong batch of new material. Let's here from anyone else who likes a particular tour, engagement, or show


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on July 15, 2007, 06:40:28 PM
I also liked the early 70's period, right through to the 1973 Aloha From Hawaii concerts.

I especially liked Elvis' band from this period, featuring the great James Burton, Ronnie Tutt, and Jerry Scheff. Being a Doors' fan, I get a kick out of watching Jerry Scheff perform with Elvis. How lucky was he, getting to play with Elvis Presley and Jim Morrison! And his son is bassist/singer Jason Scheff from Chicago.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: pixletwin on July 15, 2007, 06:41:17 PM
That video of him singing I Was The One is fabulous. I could listen to that all day long. He was such a beautiful guy. I love how he changes the lyrics and the delivery with every damn performance. Just classic.



Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 15, 2007, 08:35:22 PM
Both really good choices guys. You know even as late as December 1976 he could still do a stunning show, but I think I have to say that 85 percent of the time through the 2000 shows he held over the years he was the best.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: peerke on July 15, 2007, 11:47:02 PM
I also liked the early 70's period, right through to the 1973 Aloha From Hawaii concerts.

I especially liked Elvis' band from this period, featuring the great James Burton, Ronnie Tutt, and Jerry Scheff. Being a Doors' fan, I get a kick out of watching Jerry Scheff perform with Elvis. How lucky was he, getting to play with Elvis Presley and Jim Morrison! And his son is bassist/singer Jason Scheff from Chicago.

Don't forget that Jerry Scheff also played with Dylan, during his alimony tour in 1978. That tour was a tribute to Elvis Presley - hence the white costumes.

On topic: I agree with you about Elvis best period being the early Seventies. But I would expand the period to the last years of the Sixties - some great singles, albums and shows in 1968 and 1969.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 16, 2007, 02:04:47 AM
For live-shows my favorite time would be 1969. Being a rock'n'roll and blues-fan, this is probably the best you can get. The "In person"-album stands out for me as the best live album ever and certainly among the best ten albums ever. I love also the 1970-era, because he brought in new material, which by then wasn't of course much rock anymore. His "You've lost that loving feeling" is unbeliavable. Better than any version of that song that I've heard, including the original and Brian Wilson's cover. Over the years he still gave great shows (one of my favorites being from March '75) but imo nothing comes close to '69. I have a feeling that even the rock-songs didn't rock as hard in '70 as they did in '69. Anyway, he probably had the best band in the world back then and I think that's only fitting for Elvis.
Anyone here heard the "In person"-album? I think that one and "On stage" are the only livealbums by Elvis you ever need. Of course the others are nice and have some great moments, but these two are essential.


Not to forget his two concerts from 1961 in Hawaii and Memphis. The Memphis-one hasn't been recorded afaIk, but the Hawaii-show and it makes clear that he had a great band and was hot. I wish he'd gone on touring during the 60s, this (unfortunately poor) recording promises so much.
And I've gotta say that I love his early live-TV-appearances. Especially the "Hound dog"-version on Milton Berle. That's kinda the performance that started it all, and at the same time ended everything else if you know what I mean...


EDIT: If anyone's interested, here you can listen to an almost 1-hour longe best-of liev of Elvis from a dutch radio-station. You'll hear stuff from the 50s 'til '73 (iirc). You even hear something from the '61 Hawaii-concert

http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/radio2/nos/zomerfestival/20050816.rm
 (http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/radio2/nos/zomerfestival/20050816.rm)


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 16, 2007, 02:18:44 AM
Very insightful Rocker.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: I. Spaceman on July 17, 2007, 12:12:52 AM
It's January 28, 1956. Hmmm, what to watch on the tube after dinner. How about Your Hit Parade, that staple where Perry Como and his mild bunch sing the latest hits. Aww man, they're just singing How Much Is That Doggie In The Window for the umpteenth time.
The local station's playing another old Western, what a surprise.
Hmm, Stage Show on CBS, don't remember that show...oh I remember, that's the one Jackie Gleason produces starring those moldy hasbeen Dorsey Brothers. Every week some new version of last year's teen idol, mixed in with your parents' faves from 13 years ago. What the hell, might as well tune in for a laugh.
Hmmm, looks like they got that new guy on, Elvis Presley, the one who they have that big display on at the record store, supposed to be the next big thing. They were playing one of his records in there the other day, but it just sounded cowpoke country hayseed music, square.
Well, nothing else is on, might as well check him out. Dorseys go home! You guys are World War II and you remind me of my old man telling me to mow the lawn every day when I get home from school. If only some new sounds could come out to blast away this world of school, chores, dinner sleep, repeat. I mean, Les Paul is cool but he's so OLD!
Elvis on next, commercial for Lucky Strike on, hmm, maybe I should go check out The Searchers tomorrow, friends say it was cool, not as cool as Rebel Without A Cause was, but what could be man, ain't never be another like James Dean, the patron saint of real rebellion, telling like it is to your parents and the world, gone man, gone.
Tommy introducing some boring DJ, Bill Randle who are you, who cares, big orchestral fanfare, this should be a real drag. Man, look at that Elvis guy's outfit, I could swear in color it'd be the shade of my sister's dresses, who IS this cat? Shake, Rattle And Roll, man that's Bill Haley's tune, he's just gonna sing some other guy's tune? Hell, this guy's voice sounds better than old Haley's though. Hah, look at this guy's faces he's makin', all bug-eyed and crazy. And he's jumpin' all around the stage like he was standin' on electrical wires! The beat is loud, the beat, the beat, THE BEAT! Can't help but pound on my leg to it. Now that guy on guitar is gonna take a solo, man that Elvis guy's goin' crazy! Shakin' his legs and his hips like a movie I saw one time peekin' through the curtains at one of my dad's parties. He had a projector set up and he was playin' a movie of some old gal with big you-know-whats shakin' and gyratin' all around. And this Elvis guy reminds me of that gal, and I don't know if I like that. But the damn BEAT of that music, him singin' some lyric I don't remember from Haley, somethin' about bein' like a "One-eyed cat peepin' in a seafood store". I don't know what that means, but it sure sounds nasty. And this stuff he's singin' at the end sounds like some other song entirely, somethin' like "flip, flop and fly, don't care if I die". Wild, how'd they let this weird hick on the tube?
And he's gonna do another, man I though they'd pull him off by now. His voice is real Southern, like a farmer or somethin, funny guy, like some weird comedian. Oh yeah, I Got A Woman, this isn't his tune either, I heard this on my transistor radio late at night when I had it under the covers, I gotta make sure I don't play it too loud or my father'll come in and beat the hell out of me if he catches me. The song was by some colored guy, and I dug it real cool, it sounded dirty and like the radio was stuck between stations it was so noisy. The disc jockey was comin' in from far off in New York, some guy named Moondog or Freed or somethin'. I remember he said the tune was by some guy named Ray Charles, I think. I looked for it at the record store but they don't sell records by colored artists who ain't The Ink Spots or Mills Brothers. And if I got it home I'd have to hide it from my folks anyway, they don't like me listenin' to that stuff. Someday I'll be older too and I'll do what I want and I'll let my kids do what they want to, by God.
Man, this guy is goin' crazy again, and this tune sounds different by him but just as good, just a lot different. Now he's off, and ol' Dorsey man says he'll be back next week. I'll tune in for that, hell, that surpised me, he was good, even if he sung other guys' songs.
I wonder when his record's comin' out, I think the display at the store said it came out yeaterday or the day before. Something about a motel of broken hearts or something, I wish it was these tunes tonight that were on it. I'll stop by the store after school and buy it. That girl at school, Loretta, she was looking at a picture of Elvis in a magazine the other day and telling her friend how dreamy she thought he was. Man, I am gonna grow my hair out like that Elvis guy and look cool, no matter what my folks say. They can kick me out of the house, I don't care, I'll make my own way, I don't care about school any way.
That guitar I been lookin' at in the window of the music shop is only 15 dollars, if I saved a whole month, I could buy it. If I looked as cool as Elvis, and played a guitar, I'll bet Loretta would think I as dreamy too. Maybe I'll ask her if she wants to come home with me and study and have a soda and listen to the record, and she'll let me kiss her. Then we can go see The Searchers. Yeah, that'll be the day, she doesn't know I even exist. But I'll buy that guitar and I'll show her what I'm made of. Elvis Presley won't have nothin' on me. But, man, he was sure cool. Almost as cool as Dean. Maybe he is the next big sound, that beat really got inside me, wanted to pick everything up and break it, grab a switchblade, fight like hell, grab some girl, hell man, go crazy.
***
Loretta left me last week, after 23 years of marriage. Kids grown and gone, she says I don't pay attention to her like I used to, she wants to go off and be herself, she never had a chance to, she went from mom and dad to me, never had a life of her own.
I was good to her too, I gave her a nice living, raised our kids right. Worked hard day and night to put food on the table. And she just leaves, for some damn selfish reasons.
Ah hell, some free life will do me good. No one to answer to, do what I want, go to the bar, pick up some woman, hang out with my friends, on my own time. Free man.
Free man. Think I'll have a beer right now, that's right, 2 in the damn afternoon, you got a problem with that? Didn't think so. Call up some buddies, watch some football, think I'll call em now.
All busy on a Saturday afternoon with their wives, Freddie on vacation, Jimmy got remarried, just had another kid, hell Tom wants to just stay in with his wife, damn sap. What should I do, watch the TV, fall asleep, what the hell. Man, I like that Carol Burnett, she's damn funny, just like my wife was before she got so bitter and unhappy, what made her that way, I never cheated on her, never hit her. I mean, I know I didn't treat her quite as good as I could have, but she was always my woman, till death do us part, when did that lose meaning to that damn woman?
Another beer, another, another, hell, what's the damn point of any of this? Just watch the damn movie of the week. Aww man, it's that movie about Elvis that they played at the movie theater a couple years back, I was supposed to take my wife to that but I was away on a fishing trip. Damn, my wife loved that guy, she was so broken up when he died, I thought she'd go to the hospital. I mean, he was just a damn singer, my God. But I sure liked his music too, he went all soft after he got out of the Army, made some damn stupid movies, but he got it back rockin', I remember hearin' that Burning Love in my truck on the radio and beatin' hell out of the steering wheel like I was 15 years old again. Shame about his wife leavin' him. Know how you feel, buddy, now I do. And he ends up dead on the toilet brokenhearted.
Damn, that's gonna be me, I guess. I miss her, damnit. But hell with her if she don't want me. Just watch the damn movie and forget it. man, they have some damn punk kid playing him when he's young, it don't even look like him, don't sound like him. Better see some real King soon or I'm switchin' the channel.
Aww, there he is, the young King! Hey, I remember this, this may have been the first time I saw him, right before I got his record. yeah, man, he did Shake Rattle And Roll, the Haley tune. My God, I remember just what I was wearing, what I was feeling, this takes me back. Still in school, still at my parents, just about to get my learners permit. And I remember thinking that girl Loretta would sure be nice to hold, and maybe I'd asked her out...
Damnit, I ain't gonna cry, no woman will do that to me, I am a man, damnit, good riddance woman, I don't need you, where's the damn phone, what's the damn number, it's ringing, I won't cry, answer it please Loretta honey, I love you, I gotta tell you I want you to come back, be how you want, it'll be different, answer the phone, click she picked up!
"Hello?"
"Loretta honey?"




Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 17, 2007, 02:28:46 AM
Nicely written story Ian ! I guess many people felt that way back then, although the impact it had on many probably can't be described...

To make it, here are the two videos of Elvis' very first TV-appearance:

Shake, rattle & roll (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt6PK_eZD-Y)

(unfortunately it's a little edited)


I got a woman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7kKdnL9uks)



These early TV-appearances always make me realize that Elvis was a very good rythm-guitar player (of course the sit-down-shows do the rest). He's banging wild on that thing just like an old blues man. The whole band (Scotty Moore, Bill Black and DJ Fontana) have a great sound playing together.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 17, 2007, 05:56:44 AM
I think he stayed a pretty good guitar player. That's All Right from 76-77 is really rockin.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 17, 2007, 06:01:39 AM
Now time for a little discussion. What do you think about it? Hope my english is good enough.


1966, as you all know, was a revolutionary year of great albums that showed that pop-music was something you could actually call art. Albums like "Pet Sounds" (Beach Boys), "Revolver" (Beatles) and "Blonde on Blonde" (Bob Dylan) came out, as well as great singles like "Good Vibrations" (Beach Boys), "River deep, mountain high" (Ike&Tina Turner, produced by Phil Spector), "Sounds of silence" (Simon&Garfunkel), "Paint it black" (Rolling Stones) were released, changed the music scene and opened the door for a generation of people looking for nothing but love and peace. That an album by Elvis Presley, whose days of putting out great music seemed to have ended at this point, is one of the most impressive records of that period is unthinkable to most people. After all 1966 was the year of "Paradise Hawaiian Style", probably the worst movie with one of the worst soundtracks Elvis ever did. He wasn't relevant anymore, something that got the Beach Boys into trouble in 1967. But let's go back for a few months...
The last year, 1965, showed some hope. "Crying in the chapel", a song Elvis recorded in 1960 for his gospel-album "His hand in mine", was released as a single and became a big hit. No. 3 in the US, even no. 1 in the UK. The world wanted to hear new material from Elvis, this would be the last chance for a while for him to define himself as a great contemporary artist, whose music responds with the people and the times.But nothing else happened in 1965 (except for the Beatles visiting Elvis).
When the concept of another gospel-album was done, Elvis, getting more and more bored by all those soundtracks, was on fire and was ready to work off his ass. This would be the first projet with his new producer, Felton Jarvis ("Sheila"), who actually helped Elvis and brought in a few ideas, not like all those guys before (Steve Sholes, Chet Atkins), who were just watching Elvis produce the sessions.
The sessions began and all of a sudden Elvis was the great artist he was before he stopped to care about the material he had to cut.
Along with his usual A-quality-Nashville-band plus the Jordanaires were several new faces, including Chip Young, who was brought in by Scotty Moore, and Peter Drake. Elvis wanted the voices to sound big, almost like a choir, but instead of doubling, another gospel-group was brought in, The Imperials (featuring the great Jake Hess as bass-voice), plus three female voices, featuring Elvis-sessions-veteran Millie Kirkhma, who first sang for Elvis in '58.


As always, Elvis warmed up playing gospel-songs, and fittingly the first song they worked on was called "Run on". Starting with a beautiful acapella "hmmmm", that I could listen to for hours, the song becomes a big rocking tune, that, as some of the other uptempo numbers, reminds me a little of Spector's and Wilson's "Wall-of-sound".
BTW this song was also recorded by Johnny Cash as "God's gonna cut you down" and Brian Wilson appears in the video to that recording.


The next song they worked on was the eventually title-cut "How great thou art". Elvis instructed the singers and after rehearsing for 15 minutes, they were ready to start recording. This is one of the most impressive recordings Elvis ever did. The sheer emotion pouring out of this song is unbelievable. In '74 a live-version of this song, slightly re-arranged, won Elvis his third grammy award.


The moody "Stand by me" was recorded in total darkness, because Elvis wanted to bring up a certain feeling and "Where no one stands alone" features some great and powerful backing vocals. There's a cool unrehearsed live-version on bootleg of Elvis singing the last song in '77.

He and the musicians worked all through the night and now at 4 a.m. he couldn't stop and recorded some more contemporary material, non-gospel. The roadhouse blues "Down in the alley" and his version of Dylan's "Tomorrow is a long time". Dylan went on record saying that this is his favorite cover of any of his songs.

The first session ended.



The next day saw the next session, starting out with an old pop-song called "Love letters", which imo is the best and most emotional performance by Elvis of a melancholy ballad. You can't listen to this and not get tears in your eyes. After that, the gospel-album was focused on again. Again they started with an uptempo-song, "So high". Elvis sang in a little lower voice and played "call-and-response" with the background vocalists in the chorus.

Another soft and slow tune, "Farther along" was one of the songs Elvis played at the legendary jam-session at Sun Records in '56 with Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis and Johnny Cash. His arrangement here is a little different though.

Now it was back to rock a little. "By and by", starting with a nice piano-intro and featuring an untypical (remember this is a gospel-session !) fuzz-guitar, an expression Elvis wasn't that familiar with, so Felton explained him what it is.

The next song, "In the garden" was another soft tune with beautiful singing.
After this, Elvis and his buddies Red West and Charlie Hodge recorded a song they had often played together at home. "Beyond the reef" features Elvis playing piano and all three of them singing.

Second session ended here.



The first song recorded at the third session was "Somebody bigger than you and I" which still gives me chills when Elvis goes into the bass at the end of the song.

"Without him" features Elvis inging in a higher voice, which is quite a contrast compared to "Somebody bigger...".

Now it was back to uptempo-gospel. "If the Lord wasn't walking by my side" is probably one of the best songs Elvis recorded at these sessions. Rocking with, again, a kinda "Wall of sound" and featuring great singing by Elvis and a cool bass-part from Jake Hess. This one just makes you move.

The last gospel-song recorded was "Where could I go but to the Lord", a personal favorite of mine. Exquisitely sung and featuring vocals in the chorus that just swirl around you. He recorded a new, and some say even better, version for the '68 comeback-special.

Third session ended.



The next night saw him record "Come what may" and the Leiber&Stoller-penned "Fools fall in love", very cool performances but not the best out of these sessions.


So there it is, a total brilliant work, recorded in three nights. The "How great thou art"-album won Elvis his first grammy but didn't help him very much to get out of the corner he was already in. Still, this is one of the best albums of that time imo. The pure love that is in this record is comparable to "Pet Sounds". The sounds were and are very entertaining and fresh and the message is even of the times, because after all and in the end, christianity is about peace, love and mercy, no matter what certain powers try to make out of the actual device.



(http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/11400000/11403514.jpg)



If you are interested, you can listen to some of the sessions to this great album, and some stuff also recorded around the same time, as streams here:


How great thou art sessions vol.1 (http://jordans-elvis-world.com/audio/hgta1/hgta1.htm)

How great thou art sessions vol.2 (http://jordans-elvis-world.com/audio/hgta2/hgta2.htm)

How great thou art sessions vol.3 (http://jordans-elvis-world.com/audio/hgta3/hgta3.htm)


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: I. Spaceman on July 17, 2007, 04:47:25 PM
Written by Jeff Mason:


When Elvis returned to the studio in Nashville in May 1966, it had been two years since his last appearance in a studio for any reason besides music for a movie soundtrack. As a result, it would not have been a tremendous surprise if there had been some changes in the program to some extent. However, these sessions in some ways were a complete break with the past. First of all, for the first time in Elvis' career at RCA, he would have a hands-on producer in the studio. Steven Sholes was no longer in day-to-day handling of the artists, and Chet Atkins was not inclined to spend all night in a studio after hours. So a decision was made to pair Elvis up with someone new. Chet's new engineer, Jim Malloy, recommended a friend from ABC Records named Felton Jarvis. Felton had gotten started in the business as a result of his love for Elvis (which had started in the Sun period when Felton saw a live show where Elvis as opening blew the main act Hank Snow off the stage). He went so far as to produce a copy of "Such a Night" with a an Elvis impersonator Felton dubbed "Vince Everett", a name familiar to those following this thread (see the Jailhouse Rock section). Felton's main claim to fame to this point had been producing "Sheila" by Tommy Roe, which had been a million seller. Felton was hired despite the fear from some that Felton was a bit of a "good old boy", loose with the pranks and the women. However, that is part of why he and Elvis were such a fit, and Elvis would rarely if ever be found in the studio without Felton around for the rest of his career. Felton was hired to RCA and amazed beyond belief to find out his first assignment was to produce Elvis -- he could see no better job in life. When he went into the studio to see Elvis on May 25th, there was some bervousness on his part to be sure. But Elvis went out of his way to meet and get to know the newcomer, and once the initial awkwardness was overcome, Elvis saw someone very different from his previous A&R people -- he found a friend, a musical peer who had the same vision for how records should sound. Both of them wanted to harvest the same force that the Beatles and the beat groups were getting. Felton assured him it was a matter of correct recording and engineering -- and Elvis could get that too.

Felton was not the only new feature to this session -- first off, there were music executives all over trying to get their respective agendas met. Freddy Bienstock and Lamar Fike represented the music publishers, Tom Diskin the Colonel, and Harry Jenkins the label. Enough power there to intimidate any producer trying to do something new. Jim Malloy, the engineer that got Felton the gig, was also doing his first Elvis session. Scotty Moore brought in one of his friends, Chip Young, to play rhythm guitar. Elvis would have a pedal steel for the first time on a Nashville track from Pete Drake. There would a tremendous number of singers as well -- not just the Jordanaires this time. Millie Kirkham would be joined by June Page and Dolores Edgin, and a second gospel quartet would join in with band -- the Imperials Quartet. Elvis had wanted the bass voice of Jimmy Jones for the session but he could not be found, and Chet Atkins' secretary suggested the Imperials as an alternative. Since Jake Hess was the leader, and Hess had led Elvis' very favorite quartet (the Statesmen), it was an easy decision. This meant that, for the first time on an Elvis session, there would be a very thick vocal backing sound, and this was to become the rule not only on tape but also live (where Elvis would often have over 10 people on vocals behind him).

The session was supposed to last at least three nights, and the goal of the session was to produce another gospel album, a new pop single (by "new" it is meant a new song, not a new recording), and a Christmas single. The gospel material was the easiest to get to, as by now the pattern of Elvis loosening up with gospel music was clearly established. All that was needed for a transition was to turn on the tape and start with the first gospel number -- "Run On", a track they copied from the Golden Gate Quartet (and also a traditional number. This track is a current highlight from the latest Johnny Cash album that just came out). No Elvis gospel track had been this hard, this dense before. Even at take 1, the power was obvious. The drums were in your face, the guitars and organ full of energy.the vocals darting in and out with palpable joy. This could already have been the master had Elvis not missed a cue. Take 2 was even better, a definite candidate for release, but the band continued on. There were some instructive breakdowns on takes 3 through 5 -- for the first time, we can hear Felton and Elvis interacting in the studio. One of the most important features that Felton brought to the sessions was an encouraging nature, someone with enough genuine empathy for the feel that Elvis was trying to pull from his soul that he could patiently draw it from Elvis, even when Elvis might think he was losing his way. Take 6 again could have been a master, but they went to the even more aggressive take 7 -- a keeper of a master. This was southern Gospel with a bite, a kick it had lacked (and needed) for years. Elvis had enough vision for where the music needed to go and the clout to get the number of personnel needed to implement that vision.

This was driven home by the next song to be cut, "How Great Thou Art," the most famous cut from these sessions and one of the most important songs in Elvis' career. At the end of his career, once he was reduced to performing in cruise control and numbed by a medicine cabinet in his veins, this song never failed to grab a spine-tingling performance from Elvis, as the last live album he ever did would attest. He would perform this song with such authority that it would be lifted from a generic live album in 1974 to win a Grammy for best Gospel performance. Here, much of its live power would only be hinted at, though the majesty and beauty would be fully present. The choice of song attests to the influence of Charlie Hodge on Elvis, as he played Elvis the Sons of the Pioneers' version and worked with him at home to sculpt a vocalization (with a version by the post-Hess Statesmen used to flesh it out). Here, Elvis went through the song without any great need for retakes -- he knew the song inside and out, and only needed the vocalists behind him to get their parts down (which Elvis was hands on involved in). There were only four takes, with two being false starts, so quick was the track laid. Both Take 2 and 4 could have been masters, but take 4 is so obviously the keeper. The instrumentation is minimal, mostly piano and an emotional tympani for emphasis, and the vocals do all of the work. The tremendous force of the assembled singers completely fulfills Elvis' vision, and if you don't get chills on the ending, even if you aren't a believer, you may want to check your pulse to see if you are still alive.

The next cut toned down the intensity without sacrificing the feel. Elvis chose to do "Stand By Me", a standard of black Gospel by Charles Tindley, wanting to bring to it a gentle intimacy. To achieve this, Elvis had the studio lights lowered (which had the consequence of making it difficult to read the lyrics!). Elvis clearly is not happy with his first run-throughs, as the first 6 takes almost all break down or at least have confidence flaws. Take 7 is complete at last but Elvis is starting to struggle with his feel. Felton swoops in and keeps Elvis on task, knowing that something great will come with patience. Take 8 has a breakdown due to the lighting issue, take 9 also has lyric issues, and again Felton keeps Elvis focused. Take 10 points the way to the beautiful master on take 11, a delicate gem that is mostly held together by Elvis' voice.

The biggest challenge vocally of the day still lay ahead. Elvis senses this and asks for more power from the backing vocals before take one of "Where No One Stands Alone". Take 1 has a tape cut out, but shows the potential for greatness. Take 2 was a quick breakdown, while take 3 makes it almost to the end. The passion is apparent, but Elvis is pushing for everything he has and lost it at the climax. Take 4 was perfect save for the ending, so it was chopped for the master. What we have in this set as "take 4" is the ending as cut off. The remainder of the takes are work parts to come up with the ending, trying to minimize the strain on Elvis' voice to get as much work done as possible. The final master is take 4 with work take 7 spliced to the end. Another spine-tingling song that can lift you into the presence of God, and again proving the power of the massed vocals.

Genre distinctions can be highly artifical and useful for analysis, but can also stifle creativity that comes from blending of disparate sources. In addition, some of what we think of as indepedent genres aren't really that much different. Elvis' career is a testimony of these facts, as he constantly resists being pigeonholed into genre music and finds the similarities of what most people would think as vastly different music. Every book I have read sees the next song as a major shift in style and showing the flexibility of Elvis -- and Ian echoes that as well (in our private discussion, he called this "the second greatest musical changeup of his career." But I don't hear it that way -- the genius of Elvis is that he hears the same source producing a song like "Run On" and "Down in the Alley." If you take away the lyrics, is there THAT much difference between the two songs? I don't think so -- but only Elvis could see this in 1967 and do the two in the same session. Even Felton was more interested in the traditional "rock" of the latter than the gospel work. However, Elvis makes it all sound of one piece, a glorious exploration of pure homegrown American music.

"Funksville, take one" is how Felton announces the transition. And while I hear the sound as being in the same vein 40 years later, in that time, it was a stretch for the singers as massed. So Charlie Hodge again makes his presence felt on these sessions, this time vocally as he leads the backing groups into the proper feel. Here we have the great Charlie McCoy wailing on harp, TWO saxes (Boots and Rufus Long) grunting out a sleazy rhythm, and drums like Elvis has been dreaming about. THIS is the type of music that could keep Elvis current in the coming psychedelic blitz, if he were free to wholly commit to this type of music (but more on that in the final analysis). I am going to resist the breakdown of individual takes (though I will point out the infectious fun seen in Elvis and Charlie breaking down in joyous laughter) -- just sit back and listen to the toughest music Elvis has done since "Reconsider Baby" six years before, music that comes from starting a song at 4 AM, having played all night, and reaching down into your deepest recesses to make it happen, to revel in the process of making a record track.

The vocalist left at this point, and it was after 5 AM, but again Elvis went on for another end-of-the-night classic. And again, he demonstrates the core futility of classifying music by genre. Officially, "TOmorrow Is A Long Time" is folk music, a song written by Bob Dylan at the height of his pure folkie period. But Elvis' take on it is light years beyond the folk traditions, and frankly sounds like no other source of music I have heard. It could only come from a man whose genius consisted of amalgamating every form of music he encountered and making it all fit together in one beautiful, in this case otherworldly, package. Elvis resorts to three acoustic guitars, an electric bass, and tambourine to flesh this out. But Charlie McCoy adds his slide acoustic for the first time to an Elvis track, a style that Elvis will return to frequently in years to come, and folk blends with modern country and pop in ways no one had tried before (and which unfortunately Elvis would never repeat). It was a total break for him -- no Elvis track had ever gone over 4 minutes before, yet this one broke the five minute barrier. Elvis had to come up with a singing style he had never tried before, as he had little native feel with the classic folk styles. DYlan himself was no influence on the singing, as Elvis found this on the Odetta Sings Dylan album. What he provides is an intimate, rich, expressive voice that hypnotizes the listener as the groove settles slowly over his mind. In later years, Dylan, himself an Elvis fanatic, will claim this track as his all time favorite cover of his material, and it's hard to disagree with that assessment. Three takes, all of the same feel, produced the results Elvis wanted.

Thus ended the first night. Though the strongest tracks of the whole sessions were already in the can at this point, tomorrow night would offer some more veins of greatness to mine at length.

Run On: Take 2 was released on the Easter Special FTD release. Takes 1 and 3-5 were issued on bootleg. Take 6 was released on the So High FTD release. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP.
How Great Thou Art: Take 2 was released on the Platinum box set. Takes 1 and 3 were issued on bootleg. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP.
Stand By Me: Take 2 was released on the So High FTD release. Takes 6 and 7 were released on the Easter Special FTD release. Takes 1, 3-5, 8 and 9 were issued on bootleg. Take 10 was released on the Close Up box set. Take 11 was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP.
Where No One Stands Alone: Takes 1-3, the unused section of Take 4 and Work Part Takes 1-3 were issued on bootleg. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP.
Down In The Alley: Take 1 was released on the From Nashville To Memphis box set. Take 6 was released on the So High FTD release. Takes 2-4, 7 and 8 were issued on bootleg. The master was originally issued on the Spinout LP.
Tomorrow Is A Long Time: Take 1 was issued on bootleg. Take 2 was released on the So High FTD release. The master was originally issued on the Spinout LP.

 


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: I. Spaceman on July 17, 2007, 04:47:47 PM
080 - RCA - Nashville - 5-26-66

The second evening of these sessions opened with one of the most familiar studio stories of Elvis' career. Floyd Cramer was normally the pianist for Elvis in Nashville, but was going to be late that night by three hours. Substituting for him was David Briggs, a new and young studio musician starting out in Nashville. His nerves were high for so high profile a session, but he took comfort from the fact that Elvis always came in late and he probably wouldn't do much other than cover for a few minutes and play some organ when Floyd came. Yeah, right. Elvis showed up on time and ready to start immediately and the first thing he wanted to work on was Love Letters, a piano-based ballad. So Briggs is immediately on the firing line. Engineer Jim Mallory noticed the splotches forming on Briggs' neck but both he and Felton were totally impressed with Briggs' playing. Once they were getting into it, Floyd showed up. Briggs, relieved to have the pressure removed, moved over to the organ. Elvis wouldn't have it -- "Where's that boy? I kind of got used to the way he played." And so now Briggs is on the firing line with both Elvis AND Cramer, who was the most famous pop pianist in the country at that point. Nine takes got the song down, with several attempts to fine-tune the tempo. Briggs was off the piano after the master was taken, but he was invited to remain on organ all night. He noted that Elvis played the master multiple times before moving on, something that Elvis would do in the future when he felt he had made an all time classic.

And that is a fair assessment, because in this reviewer's opinion, "Love Letters" joins "It Hurts Me" as the two best ballads Elvis ever recorded. Briggs would later reject his playing on this record, but frankly, he is insane. The piano feel is simply perfect, he outdoes Cramer for that slip style of playing, and Elvis simply quivers with feel that oozes all over the master. The female-only backing vocals also gently push the song along, and the recording sound is the best of the whole session.

At midnight, back to the gospel album, and the most overtly black gospel feel song he has done yet on these sessions. As mentioned above, Elvis had wanted Jimmy Jones from the Harmonizing Four for this album, but if they coudln't find him, they could at least cover their songs. "So High" was one of these songs, in a pure gospel jubliee arrangement that would have felt at home in Elvis' Pentocostal churches growing up save for the drums that were up in your face. And while it would have been interesting to hear Elvis interacting with a black bass vocalist, the end results are still great, with Elvis and his singers in classic call-and-response mode. There are four takes, three complete, and all great.

Next up was "Farther Along". This song is familiar to all Byrds/Burritos fans, as both bands did their takes on the song in years to come. In this case, Elvis does the same race/genre bending for gospel that he did with country and blues at Sun. Only this time, black and southern Gospel get blended with pure country into a new hybrid, one that would get repeated often by subsequent gospel artists (in fact, this whole album would have a huge impact on religious music, but more on that on the final analysis). Take 3 was the first complete take and the master, a subsequent take being unnecessary.

For the next track, "By and By", they found that a traditional song took more work to arrange than one would expect. Listen to Felton suggest that Pete Drake add some fuzz to his pedal steel, followed by a slightly confused Elvis ("Fuzz?" "Fuzz tone, that he has on his steel") as they searched for just the right sound. And that fuzz would make the final cut, predating the sound that "Sneaky" Pete Kleinow would make famous on the first Flying Burrito Brothers album. Though it was pure gospel, it also was far more "in your face" than most "rock" songs being offered in 1966, especially in drum sound. Elvis was turning up the fire for Christian music, and the eventual impact would be far reaching (even if most Christian musicians are unaware of that impact). There are 10 takes, most false starts, with 10 being the master take. A short but sweet track.

The next song, "In the Garden," is a traditional hymn that (along with the album title track) is familiar to all good Southern Baptist children as they grew up. Unlike most of the other sacred tracks thus far, Elvis plays this straight, adding nothig out of the ordinary to the track. That doesn't mean it is weak, it is just more conventional than most of the genre-bending Elvis has been engaged in throughout the sessions. A few inital breakdowns led to a full master on take 3. Elvis mines beauty in a straightforward traditional performance.

Once again, it is almost morning, 6 AM to be precise, and most everyone has gone home. Elvis wants to unwind a bit first, though, so he gets Red West (his bodyguard who also writes songs and helps Elvis with his music at home) and Charlie Hodge to sing with him for one last track that night. Elvis is on piano, Pete Drake on pedal steel and Bob Moore on bass are still there as well for "Beyond the Reef." Elvis, Charlie and Red have been rehearsing this at home for weeks, so for them it only takes two tries to get an initial master. A gentle easy ballad with a strong Hawaiian soudn courtesy of Drake's steel guitar, it is pretty but unusable in its current form. Mostly a personal experiment, Felton would come back later to do more with it.

7 AM again, and the session breaks up. One more night is scheduled, though there would be an occasion for a fourth night. Coming soon.


Love Letters: Take 2 was released on the Today Tomorrow And Forever box set. Takes 1, 5 and 6 were issued on bootleg. Takes 3, 4 and 7 were released on the Collectors Gold CD. Take 8 was released on the So High FTD release. The master was originally issued on the A-side of a 45.
So High: Take 1 was released on the So High FTD release. Takes 2 and 3 were released on the Easter Special FTD release. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP.
Farther Along: Takes 1 and 2 were issued on bootleg. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP.
By And By: Take 4 was released on the Long Lonely Highway FTD release. Takes 1-3 and 5-8 were issued on bootleg. Take 9 was released on the So High FTD release. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP.
In The Garden: Takes 1 and 2 were issued on bootleg. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP.
Beyond The Reef: Take 1 was issued on bootleg. The undubbed master was released on the From Nashville To Memphis box set.


 080 - RCA - Nashville - 5-27/8-66

As the third (and last of the pre-scheduled) nights opened, the end of the gospel album was in sight. Four final songs would close it all off. The evening opened with yet another track by Jimmy Jones, "Somebody Bigger Than You and I". While Elvis always was known for his love for bass singers, this time he began by trying to emulate the key -- and while Elvis could sing a low baritone, he couldn't get THAT low. So by take 4, he requested that the key be raised up. This led to multiple false starts and breakdowns as they feel their way through the altered arrangement. Several of the flubs led to some humor ("Yeah, DJ, lighten up just a hair...") allowing the spirits of the session to continue along the same productive path as the previous night. By take 12, it was coming together, but Elvis' positive attitude at its best led to perfectionism, so they pushed on through 16 takes. Save the ending, 16 was perfect, so they decided to tape the ending separate and splice them together. Six more takes were done to achieve the section that they needed for the splice. All of the work yielded a quietly intense track, simple and delicate, with Elvis quavering with conviction. The backing vocals, especially by the ladies, are a highlight as well.

By this time Elvis was out of ideas, and the publishing companies didn't have anything else to contribute that Elvis liked, so the floor was thrown open for suggestions for the remaining tracks. Jake Hess responded with a fairly new gospel song, "Without Him," by a young new talent named Mylon LeFevre. A brief note is in order, as this is an important connection for these gospel sessions to the direction that Christian music would take in the future. Though only his songs would be known in 1966, LeFevre would eventually become a well-known figure in Contemporary Christian Music, but only after a stint in secular music leading to his backsliding from the faith into a typical early 70's haze of drugs and the like. Participating on a Phil Keaggy album as a background vocalist in 1976 would turn him around. But this choice would be an early indicator for the influence of newer music on Elvis as well as the influence that the new album would exert in the other direction.

As they began work on the song, Elvis was pretty much learning it from scratch. That sound you hear is NOT a rubber duck, though it sure sounds that way. Elvis had squeaky shoes, and the sound was clearly being caught on the tape. Elvis didn't catch this until after take 4, commenting that it was "the wrong kind of soul!" He caught a complete version on take 8, but he was still unsure, and his comments prove that he was suffering from this lack of confidence. More takes and practice would let him nail it on takes 12 and 14 both, but 12 was chosen as the master. Though LeFevre was Caucasian, the song is clearly a slow burner in the black tradition (though I can tell you from experience that it wasn't hard for white congregations to adapt it for their use). One other thing to note from this song is the more literal and obvious "gospel" message, in that more so than the other gospel songs throughout the sessions, it would make stronger reference to modern evangelical concepts of devotion and salvation, again making clear its modern origins.

After two slow songs, it was time to pick up the pace. The Imperials provided one of their own songs, "If the Lord Wasn't Walking By My Side," written by their piano player Henry Slaughter. Again, a modern song with modern themes and lyrics, and another new song for Elvis to learn from scratch. Keeping in mind the song's origins and Elvis' admiration for Jake Hess, Elvis began to back into the ensemble as one of the bunch, and moving Jake up (to his embarrassment) into the lead position. Each successive take (of six, with five taken as master) showed Elvis moving further back into the background, proving his humility for credit.

Finally, at 4 AM, with one last track needed, Elvis remembered "Where Could I Go But To the Lord", a song he and his dad sang a lot together. Their performance is a joy here, nailed in two takes. A swinging piano and finger snaps sound almost jazzy, a mix between jazzy and gospel (which isn't as far fetched as that might sound). The soul quotient was high, but it wasn't even in my opinion Elvis' best version. I am much more partial to the take he would bring to it for the 1968 Comeback Special, even if it is abridged there. Nice to have either way. This brought the sessions to 5 AM, and Elvis' energy was gone -- so the sessions ended without one of the gospel songs that Bienstock had brought to the table, "My Special Prayer", being touched. Needless to say, this would hurt the bottom line for Elvis, but with a full twelve tracks in the can, I doubt he was too concerned.

That was the end of the pre-scheduled sessions, and many of the principals involved had to do other things, but a fourth night was hastily arranged. While a full gospel album was done and several wonderful pop covers were now available, no new pop tunes nor any Christmas songs were yet recorded, so one more night was optimistically arranged. There would be several personnel shifts due to the hasty nature. First off, Jim Malloy couldn't engineer, and so Al Pachucki, Felton's favorite engineer, took over on his first Elvis session (of dozens, clear through until 1973). The Imperials had a tour beginning, and Bob Moore was replaced on bass by Henry Strzelecki.

The first song to be attempted this night was "Come What May", another cover (this time of a Clyde McPhatter song to be used as a B side for "Love Letters"). Jerry Lee Lewis had also done the song, and Elvis had jammed on it with him at Graceland. Elvis was clearly in a good mood, but not in a focused mood, and eight takes were required to get a good master. It would lead to a nice track, upbeat with some great sax from Boots, but still a bit of a comedown from the previous three nights.

Finally, a cover of a Lieber/Stoller song from the Drifters, "Fools Fall in Love", would be the final track of the week. It is a fairly upbeat little number, mostly notable for the unusual steel guitar that Pete Drake would add to the track -- sounds like he got an early wah-wah or something and made it "talk" away. Five takes were done, but only 4 and 5 (the master) have been heard outside of RCA. There was still work intended to be done, but more people were coming and going -- specifically, Charlie McCoy and Boots Randolph had to go. While there were replacements in line, the whole arrangement of the evening killed the momentum that had been built, and Elvis called a halt early. Asking Pachucki to make an acetate of "Love Letters" and "Come What May" for his next single, he went back to the hotel.

Somebody Bigger Than You And I: Take 11 was released on the So High FTD release. Take 12 was released on the Easter Special FTD release. Take 15 was released on the Close Up box set. Takes 1-10, 13, 14, the unused section of Take 16, Work Part Takes 1-5 and the unused section of Work Part Take 6 were issued on bootleg. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP.
Without Him: Take 1 was released on the So High FTD release. Take 8 was released on the Close Up box set. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP. Takes 2-7, 9-11, 13 and 14 were issued on bootleg.
If The Lord Wasn't Walking By My Side: Take 1 was released on the Today Tomorrow And Forever box set. Takes 2-4 were issued on bootleg. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP. Take 6 was released on the So High FTD release.
Where Could I Go But To The Lord: Take 1 was issued on bootleg. The master was originally issued on the How Great Thou Art LP.
Come What May: Take 2 was released on the So High FTD release. Takes 3 and 4 were released on the Today Tomorrow And Forever box set. Takes 1 and 5 were issued on bootleg. Take 6 was released on the Collectors Gold CD. Take 7 was originally issued on the From Nashville To Memphis box set. The master was originally issued on the B-side of the Love Letters 45.
Fools Fall In Love: Take 4 was released on the Long Lonely Highway FTD release. The master was originally issued on the B-side of the Indescribably Blue 45.

 These sessions were at once a complete triumph and high point for Elvis' career and also a complete disaster.

First, the triumph -- this would be in this reviewer's opinion the best collection of gospel music Elvis would release in his lifetime, an assessment shared by his peers. Elvis won his very first Grammy for How Great Thou Art, for Best Sacred Album. And it would be as strong a catalog item as the Golden Records albums, not burning up the charts on release but ultimately being one of Elvis' best sellers of all. Nevertheless, a Top 20 chart placement for a gospel album was still in the big picture astonishing.

More important than this, though, was its impact on the gospel world, an impact that is clear if not commonly noticed among the modern "Contemporary Christian Music" critics who tend to ignore Elvis since he was never in the Jesus music sphere. However, Jesus music was not the only stream that flowed into modern CCM -- established artists like Ralph Carmichael, Andrae Crouch, Jimmy Owens, and others all had to have heard this album. Its clear steps toward combining gospel with rock would be heard more easily by these artists rather than the pure rock and folk done by artists like Larry Norman or Randy Stonehill. And these established performers would help make CCM palatable by the church at large, through Crouch's modern gospel or through Carmichael or Owens' youth choir shows. Elvis helped open a whole new world for sacred music (though obviously not alone), even if he himself never really went down that path whole-heartedly. I have always wondered what He Touched Me would have sounded like had he just cut loose and did gospel rock.

However, the sessions were a total failure at two of the stated goals, and this would be the first overt sign of a severe problem that would hinder Elvis' recording career throughout the rest of his life. While the six pop songs are all good to astonishingly perfect, none of them were brand new songs, nor were any of them Christmas songs. While many songs in these sessions were either H&R songs or Public Domain (thus giving Elvis an "arranged by" credit), not one of the songs that Freddy Bienstock brought to the table were adequate for Elvis to sing and do as a new single. While in years past they could provide a "Little Sister" or "Devil in Disguise", the writers in the stall fell far short this time, and most of the newer writers were either singing their own songs or else unwilling to part with any of the publishing to Elvis, especially in light of his commercial slide. It would be one thing to give some money away on a song destined to sell multiple millions of copies, but Elvis singles were now selling between one and five hundred thousand at most now -- not as great a reward as before. This cost Elvis dearly over the years, as Felton would be unable to bring in songs that he had from his contacts, and as Elvis would be subjected to music increasingly out of step with his own tastes.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 17, 2007, 07:58:48 PM
Spinout and How Great Thou Art are both very good albums. Spinout is a little uneven but it's the first soundtrack for three years that has some real rock and roll on it. Of course I don't need to defend the bonus cuts. How Great is one of Elvis' most special albums, and he went out of his way to choose songs that meant a lot to him. He was very involved with the sequencing, and promotion too. It was the first album that featured a new richness in his voice. It was also the first album that gave a clue as to how Elvis would mature in the 70's. All in all a real classic. 


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 18, 2007, 02:11:40 AM
Cool stuff !

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Jerry Lee Lewis had also done the song, and Elvis had jammed on it with him at Graceland.

Anybody got more infos on that? I've never heard of Jerry Lee visiting Elvis at Graceland (except of course for the Nov. '76-thing)


I think it would be cool if we talk about some of Elvis' best albums here from time to time. Maybe someone else got other stories about concerts, etc. Could become a very interesting thread....


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 18, 2007, 03:35:31 AM
Jerry Lee came up a number of times, they were friends. Don't have any specific dates but members of the Memphis Mafia and JLL have both talked about it.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 18, 2007, 03:46:42 AM
Jerry Lee came up a number of times, they were friends. Don't have any specific dates but members of the Memphis Mafia and JLL have both talked about it.

That's very interesting. I've often heard about people saying they were friends, but never heard about actual meetings. JLL talked about how he would buy some drugs for Elvis, but you never know if he puts you on or tells the truth. 
But I remember Linda Gail having a check from Elvis, dunno what for though, and that Elvis invited JLL to his '69 opening night. But not much more, so this is really interesting for me....


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 18, 2007, 02:55:52 PM
I think he was joking about the drugs, because Elvis was not very open about them with people he wasn't extreemly tight with. I am sure you know the story about them naked on motorcycles getting chased by a cop on a horse.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 19, 2007, 02:14:43 AM
I think he was joking about the drugs, because Elvis was not very open about them with people he wasn't extreemly tight with. I am sure you know the story about them naked on motorcycles getting chased by a cop on a horse.

Not in that detail....  :-D

But anyway, let's get back to the music...
I wonder what people who don't think about Elvis as the artist he was, think about this great stuff he released. Not only the "How great thou art"-album but alot of other recordings. That must be mindblowing for them...


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: NC on July 19, 2007, 06:29:53 AM
The Chips Moman sessions in '69 get a lot of attention, and rightfully so - but it's the Nashville June 1970 sessions that really do it for me. I think Elvis was more relaxed and in command. This resulted in less commercial material, but more opportunity to hear his unique blending of styles. The band cooked as well, with Burton on lead guitar and David Briggs on keys, who was/is an incredible player. Probably my all time favorite EP studio band.

My take on the most dynamic show he ever gave would be the Bloch Arena show in Hawaii '61 from the Elvis Aron Presley box. Maybe the best stage band he ever put together, including Hank Garland, Cramer and Boots Randolph (RIP), and bar none the best set-list he ever had. If I could be at one Elvis show - this would be it. Even on the poor recording that survived, the crowd reaction is near hysterical. If he had continued performing like this throughout the early sixties, we might be saying "Beatles who?"

As far as other specific groups of shows go, I really like the Jan-Feb 1972 stand. There was more Vegas balladry kicking in, like "You Gave Me A Mountain", and "It's Over", which I personally don't mind. But also some tremendously funky stuff like the resurrected "Big Hunk Of Love" and that slow version of "Hound Dog".

   


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 19, 2007, 02:20:06 PM
I agree with you about the 69 stuff not being as good as the 70. Elvis' voice is richer and their is less Neil Diamondy stuff like A Little Bit Of Green. I like the 69 sessions but it's just doesn't tower over the catalog to me. The 61 show is good, as is the 72 Vegas. From 1954-72 almost every concert was terrific. The only ones I would say that weren't during that time are the Aug 71 Vegas engagement where he seems bored. From 73-77 it's more hit and miss but there continued to be good shows. I like the tour shows from 73, the Aug 74 Vegas, pretty much every 75 show, and the last three tours of 76 the best. As far as the tours I didn't mention there were always good shows on each of them, but they just weren't as uniformly good.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Mahalo on July 19, 2007, 09:51:58 PM
30 years after what???? I just saw Elvis a couple weeks ago playing horseshoes with Jim Morrison and Billy the Kid outside  my local bowling alley...



.................................................LONG LIVE THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rock


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 20, 2007, 02:08:23 AM
I like the 1970 the best too and I agree that the '69-sessions aren't the best of his live, although I think they are great. But imo it's not that easy to compare both sessions because the '69 stuff has mor soul stuff (I of course mean soul-music, not singing with soul as that was always the case with Elvis) and the '70-recordings are more about country and rock, something that probably was easier for Elvis to get into as it was the music he grew up on and the music he helped define. That's also why he cut such an amzing amount of tracks in just a few nights (MBE what was the number? I forgot how many tracks he recorded in how many nights, but it's pretty unbelievable).
I think the Memphis-sessions were the absolute right thing for his comeback-period. If he'd released the "Elvis Country"-album (which is a great one) in '69 instead of "From Elvis in Memphis", I don't think that it would've been such a success.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 20, 2007, 02:16:12 AM
Around35 complete songs plus 1 or 2 jams over I think four nights.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: NC on July 20, 2007, 06:04:27 AM
To give credit where credit is due, I think Moman helped give Elvis a more commercial sound, and they were encouraging him to record more contemporary sounding material. He had been working with basically the same band and backup singers since 1960, and it was starting to sound a little stale. The band at American had a hot sound, and were producing a lot of big records at the time, so it was a smart move and it got him back to the top of the charts.

He was recording some great material in 66-67, but it was not commercial. If you really look at the non-soundtrack material recorded during what might be considered as the "wilderness years", say 63-67, there are very few stinkers, and some absolute gems like "Tomorrow Is A Long Time", and "It Hurts Me".



Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 21, 2007, 02:31:37 AM
I agree that the Memphis-sessions had a more contemporary sound. But I don't think that his '66-'67 recordings were not commercial. There are some songs that very well could've been hits.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 22, 2007, 03:44:59 AM
I was just looking through the booklet of the great "Memories - The '68 Comeback special"-CD which features the version of "A little less conversation" that was remixed and became a worldwide hit in 2002. Among some other wrecking crew-members a certain Charles Britz is credited as a guitar player for that song. Is that Chuck Britz? Didn't know he played an instrument. Anybody know this ?


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 22, 2007, 04:34:25 PM
Most likely an error.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 23, 2007, 01:51:11 AM
Most likely an error.

Did he even work for Elvis at any time?
Carol Kaye claims to be on ALLC but she was not afaIk. The credits in the booklet for the "Memories"-CD are for the MGM-Track of the same song, but what we hear, and hat was used for the remix, is a new track that was recorded for the comeback. Didn't know that, but guessed it, for sure until yesterday.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on July 23, 2007, 02:45:03 AM
I think it's possible Elvis could have run into Chuck at one time or another but I don't think they did anything significant together.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 25, 2007, 02:58:28 AM
Here's something very special for all. It's a Vegas-rehearsal (as a stream, should start automatically in your realplayer) of Elvis doing "Any day now" which he never played live afaIk. His original studiorecording is on the "From Elvis in Memphis"-album.

Any day Now (http://jordans-elvis-world.com/audio/bottom2/15.ram)



EDIT: Great, Priscilla will be on Larry King and you can send questions via email. Check this out:

http://edition.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/ (http://edition.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/)  (scroll down a little)


Here's my question (I don't think she will/can answer it if it will even be used):

Hi Priscilla,
maybe you can answer my question. When will EPE/BMG start to treat Elvis' legacy with more respect? His face is on every crap you can think of and then there are already official impersonators. When will those guys finally go back to what really counts; Elvis and his art ? I mean many of his original albums aren't even avilable on the regular market and it takes independece label such as the "Memphis Recording Service" to get out something tasteful and artisticall useful, while BMG often not even uses the right mixes of songs that Elvis decided to release.

Thanks, have a great week !


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: I. Spaceman on July 25, 2007, 08:06:28 PM
Anyone else get the new FTD's?


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on July 26, 2007, 03:39:30 AM
Anyone else get the new FTD's?

I don't. I don't buy FTD's too often because it's too expensive for me, but there are some that I really need.
"Raised on rock" is one of my favorite 70s albums by Elvis, although his performances are mostly really weak. His version of Tony Joe White's "For ol' times sake" is unbelievable though (btw TJW was in the studio watching Elvis record that which got Elvis telling him that "you write about my life"). What do you think about the new release? I like these album-releases with sessions much more than the stuff like "I sing all kind" (or what it's called) with songs from different albums just being mixed together.


Oh and what about "Leave my woman alone"? I heard an acetat (at least it sounded like that) which claimed to be Elvis. The backing track might very well be the one from Elvis' session and the voice had some similarities but it was to bad quality to tell for sure. Did you hear that acetat and can say what is on the "Easy come easy go"-FTD? Is it the same backingtrack?


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on August 03, 2007, 07:55:34 AM
I thought some of you might be interested in this, it's Peter Guralnick's article about "From Elvis in Memphis" which appeared in "Rolling Stone" on august 23rd 1969. I think it's fascinating to read reviewas about albums from the same time as they were released. If anyone got more, I think it would be awesome to post them, or just a part of them:


(http://www.flamingstar.no/fapr/images/050630_151042-10/file/Album%20From%20Elvis%20in%20Memphis.jpg)


Elvis and Memphis have changed, along with everything else. Country music has beenpolysyllabized, and rhythm and blues, which was once just that, has long since dropped the blues from it's make-up. When Elvis was in high school he could have heard Muddy Water's "Long distance call" or "Honey bee" as popular new releases, and Sonny Boy Williamson's "Don't start me to talkin'" came out at just about the same time as Elvis' own first song. Sam Phillips, Elvis' discoverer, had in the course of just a few years recorded Howlin' Wolf, Bobby Bland, Little Junior Parker, Johnny Ace and BB King, all for the first time. Some records had been leased; others had appeared on hisown Sun label. There was a relaxed interplay- musical and probably social- between white and black that was the product as much of naivete as of conscious commercial exploitation.
When Elvis first redorded fifteen years ago there was no name for the kind of music he was playing. It was just the sort of thing you heard at roadhouses and country fairs all through Mississippi, Arkansas and Tennessee. Country singers like Sonny Burgess were known for raucous blues like "Red headed woman", and Harmonica Frank, the Great Medical Menagerist recorded by Phillips, was popular for his blues and novelty numbers. All of this was at Elvis' fingertips, and he could sing Arthur Crudup's "That's allright" as naturally as "Isle of broken dreams" or "My happiness" (the song he originally paid to record for his mother's birthday).
Elvis' first commercial release, Crudup's blues backed by a Bill Monroe bluegrass tune, changed everything. For one thing, it changed Sun Records. From a white-owned blues label which might have given the Chess brotehrs (to whom much of Phillips' material was leased) stiff competition Sun became first the harbinger and then the king of the new rockabilly sound. It's generally been assumed that the phenomenal commercial success of this music reflected a correspondent deteriotation in quality, but I think that in reality no such decline took place. In just three years Phillips put together a list that could rival that of any other recording company in any other field. There was room for the talents of artists as diverse as Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, Roy Orbison, Charlie Rich, Billy Riley, Warren Smith, Johnny Cash, and Elvis himself, and really the only conclusion to which we are led is that Phillips was a man of exceptional and wide-ranging musical taste who possessed extraordinary abilities as a producer.
Dewey Phillips, a popular Memphis DJ with a big rhythm and blues following, broke Elvis' song on the radio, and according to legend the station was flooded with calls demanding that the song be played over and over again. Elvis himself hid out in a movie theatre and at last appeared on Dewey Phillips' radio show to quiet the publicuproar, and, at Phillips' prodding, to give assurance (in order to authenticate his color) that it was indeed all-white Humes High School that he had attended. We listen to these accounts not with disbelief but with a kind of incomprehension, unable to recapture so revolutionary a moment. In those days Sonny Boy Williamson was on the radio broadcasting from West Helena, Arkansas with his King Biscuit Boys, who sometimes included Elmore James and BB King. Rufus "Bear cat" Thomas, the novelty blues singer, was a regular DJ on WDIA- as he remains today- and it was just a couple of years before that Howlin' Wolf left his job at KWEM and went north to Chicago after five years of spinning records and selling fertilizer. It seems in retrospect like such a fabulous time- yet many of these same singers are still around, and Elvis is still on top.
The new album is great. I think it is flatly and unequivocally the equal of anything he has ever done. If it were made up only of it's weakest elements it would still be a good record and one that would fulfill in many ways all the expectations we might have had of Elvis.
"In the ghetto", a hit big enough to substantiate Elvis' continued popularity, is for all it's lush orchestration convincingly sung and phrased with sensitivity. It substantiates as well the whole liberal complex we grafted onto Elvis in adopting him for our hero, and despite a message fuzzy enough to allow the song considerable C&W popularity it gives us a statement as explicit as any we are ever likely to get. "Only the strong survive", while a little stiff and tightly sung, is a creditable soul offering, and even "ny day now" is palatable enough in this vein. Finally "Gentle on my mind" offers us Elvis in the new mod buckskin image of country music, as he triumphs forcefully over the banality of the lyrics with a willingness to use dramatics, even at the risk of seeming melodramatic, and all this on a song that has previously been the bland property of singers like Glenn Campbell and Bobby Goldsboro.
Most striking are the powerful evocations of an earlier style with "Power of my love", a tough blues with a popular bridge, and "Afetr loving you", a stammered blues ballad very much like "One night". Both have basic rock and roll accompaniment, both are marked by the boastful sexual swagger of earlier days, and "After loving you" is highlighted by what sounds like Elvis' own lowdown guitar (with the same runs that brought cries of "Play it dirty, play it dirty" on the TV special). "True love travels on a gravel road" gives us a well-written love ballad, eerily updated with scarcely a hint of the anachronistic style of "Love me", "Love me tender" and "Loving you". It's put across in Elvis' best genteel manner, offering a glimpse of real sophistication while at the same time "It keeps right on a-hurtin'" and "Movin' on" are masterful reminders of country and western roots. "It keeps right on a-hurtin'" showcases fine Jerry Lee Lewis-styled country piano, and "Movin' on", Hank Snow's driving classic, complete with whining steel guitar, is nicely understated by Elvis' normally extravagant voice. Both cuts are marked by the same sensitive arrangements which distinguish the greater part of the album, and both are vivid, highly successful performances.
All of this is merely confirmation of what we already knew about Elvis, though. What is new, and what is obvious from the first notes of the record, is the evident passion which Elvis has invested in this music and at the same time the risk he has taken in doing so. From the hoarse shout that opens the album to the hit song that closes it, it seems clear - as indeed it was clear on the TV special - that Elvis is trying, and trying very hard, to please us. He needs our attention, and it comes as something of a shock to discover that a hero whom we had set up to feel only existential scorn, a hero who was characterized by a frozen sneer and a look of sullen discontent should need us in the end. It is his involvement after all which comes as the surprise.
Many of the songs take their inspiration from gospel stylings. "Wearin' that loved on look" is very much in the gospel idiom, for example, with it's strained hoarse vocal, ethereal female chorus, and the almost classic piano break in the middle. Both "Power of my love" and "After loving you" are sung with umistakable feeling, with "After loving you" in particular notable for it's staggered gospel-type phrasing. Even the soul ballads, "Only the strong survive" and "Any day now", present an unashamed emotionalism that few of Elvis' golden hits would admit to and achieve a kind of tension at least that is singularly absent from the earlier songs.
But it is "Long black limousine" and "I'll hold you in my heart" which mark the highpoint of the album and indeed may mark the highpoint of Elvis' carreer to date. "Long black limousine" is the almost quintessential C&W ballad, whose melody bears traces of such mournful standards as "Old shep" and "Green green grass of home". It tells the classic story of the country girl who goes to the city in search of riches, only to be corrupted by city ways:

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When you left you know you told me
that someday you'd be returning
In a fancy car for all the town to see

Well now, everyone is watching you,
you've finally had your dream
And you're riding in a long black limousine



Ordinarily a song like this will be treated as a kind of grim cautionary tale, delivered in a flat unadorned voice with simple sentimental country backing. Here the accompaniment is ornamented with bells, horns, and female choir, but it is Elvis' voice upon which the words depend for theri dramatic effect. In a departure quite uncharacteristic of most country music there is a fierce, almost shocked indignation in the voice, and the passionate intensity of Elvis' voice transforms a fairly ordinary song into a vehicle for savage social protest.
"I'll hold you in my heart ('til I can hold you in my arms)", an Eddy Arnold composition, is a simpler kind of song and a simpler kind of message. Here Elvis dispenses with words almost altogether, the arrangement is just country-gospel piano, strong supporting guitar, organ, and rythm, and the message consists only of one or two verses repeated hypnotically over and over. The effect is all-enveloping, though, and nothing could better exemplifythe absorbing character of Elvis' unique and moving style. At the same time nothing could more effectively defy description, for there is nothing to the song except a haunting, almost painful emotionalism. It goes on and on, long past the point where you would think it might logically have stopped, as Elvis himself is seemingly caught up in the mesmerizing effect of words and rythm untile he is lost in the song, using the dynamics of his voice to marvelous effect, calling up an aching vulnerability whic he has never before exposed. He doesn't let go of the song until he has wrung every last ounce of feeling from it, and listening to this performance is an absorbing, emotionally riveting experience. Elvis has never sung better.
And yet it's still not the same. There is that unavoidable tightness in his voice. For a moment we lose sight of it in "I'll hold you in my heart", but it's a function of knowledge as much as anything else. You can't rercapture the innocence ease of those first sides, you can't recall the easy innocence of adulthood, wether for listener or for singer. What is so striking about the Sun sides, even today, fifteen years after their first release, is the freshness of style, their cleanness and enthusiasm. There is a total lack of pretentiousness in Scotty Moore's crisp lead guitar and in the easy swing of the combo. The sound is without affection or clutter, and the songs - about equally divided between blues and country and mostly available on two RCA albums, A Date With Elvis (LSP 2011) and For LP Fans Only (LSP 1990) - are all of them timeless. Most of all the voice, free of the mannerisms with which it has inevitably become infected, is joyously full of confidence and youthful vitality.
The first arrangement of "That's allright", it is said, was worked out during a coffeebreak between takes of a ballad called "Without you". Really, all the early songs sound like some kind of inspired accident. It's as if some musicians got together and fooled around to make music for themselves, and the result somehow found it's way onto record. There's the unexpected falsetto and chuckle with which Little Junior Parker's "Mystery train" trails off, the bubbly beginning to "Baby let's play house", and the too-perfect,beautiful slow take of Kokomo Arnold's "Milkcow blues" when Elvis says, "Hold it, fellas. That don't move me. Let's get real, real gone for a change."
Well, he got gone. Sun sold his contract to RCA for $35,000, Elvis and Colonel Parker got rich, and Sam Phillips wrote several more chapters in musical history. Elvis may have benn a little bewildered, but he never let it show, for he withdrew from the world to make movies. He made more money, the Colonel's formulaic approach to show business continued to pay off, and he didn't go back to record in his hometown of Memphis until 1969.
His homecoming can now be accounted a triumph. But then his whole carreer can be accounted a triumph. There's no point in wasting any sympathy on Elvis or on anyone else. Because if he lost what he had he certainly got what he wanted, and that's all you can really hope for, isn't it? When he first came to our attention it would have been difficult to imagine the seriousness with which rock and roll would one day be greeted. We took Little Richard's outlandish screams for a welcome relief, and the nonsense lyrics of Chuck Berry and Carl Perkins seemed to express an implicit view of the world that each of us secretly shared. Now the secret is out, and everyone is covering up.

- Peter Guralnick


(http://www.elvis-presley-gesellschaft.de/html/images/69-Band_Elvis.jpg)

Elvis with the "American sound studio"- band.


To tell you the truth, imo it puts too much the feeling across that Elvis didn't do any great music after the Sun sessions until "From Elvis in Memphis", but there's alot of great work, some of it even better than the Sun stuff imho.
Hope you liked reading this article.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: halblaineisgood on August 03, 2007, 06:10:37 PM
I haven't had time to read everything in the elvis threads.....so excuse me if this has been covered...
Did anybody here see Elvis: The concert? I guess it might be considered tacky .....but for an Elvis fan born years too late......it's the closest thing to seeing him live.......and it still featured his great band....Ronnie tutt, James Burton and all......I normally don't like Rock Concerts, but I had a wonderful time when I saw the show several years ago.....Maybe it was tacky.......but certainly much less tacky than a stupid impersonator......


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on August 03, 2007, 09:52:50 PM
Anyone else get the new FTD's?

I don't. I don't buy FTD's too often because it's too expensive for me, but there are some that I really need.
"Raised on rock" is one of my favorite 70s albums by Elvis, although his performances are mostly really weak. His version of Tony Joe White's "For ol' times sake" is unbelievable though (btw TJW was in the studio watching Elvis record that which got Elvis telling him that "you write about my life"). What do you think about the new release? I like these album-releases with sessions much more than the stuff like "I sing all kind" (or what it's called) with songs from different albums just being mixed together.


Oh and what about "Leave my woman alone"? I heard an acetat (at least it sounded like that) which claimed to be Elvis. The backing track might very well be the one from Elvis' session and the voice had some similarities but it was to bad quality to tell for sure. Did you hear that acetat and can say what is on the "Easy come easy go"-FTD? Is it the same backingtrack?

Raised On Rock is a great album to me. Bluesy, funky, beautiful. Never understood how people wouldn't like it. I should be getting the FTD's in a trade soon so I I will let you know when I do. Email me at my personal email edermike@msn.com for info on Leave My Woman Alone.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on August 04, 2007, 02:00:55 AM
I haven't had time to read everything in the elvis threads.....so excuse me if this has been covered...
Did anybody here see Elvis: The concert? I guess it might be considered tacky .....but for an Elvis fan born years too late......it's the closest thing to seeing him live.......and it still featured his great band....Ronnie tutt, James Burton and all......I normally don't like Rock Concerts, but I had a wonderful time when I saw the show several years ago.....Maybe it was tacky.......but certainly much less tacky than a stupid impersonator......


I haven't seen it in person but saw some video-recordings and now it's also got an official DVD-release, which I haven't seen yet. On the whole I don't like those nostalgia things, but this band is one of the ebst bands in the world, alsways was and will be, with members of very high quality each, so from that point I think it's really an interesting thing. On the other hand the communication with Elvis that was so great during the concerts (I was born too late and an ocean to far to see him) is missing as it is always the same every night from Elvis (reason being of course that the videos won't change)

 EDIT: Here's a stream to a very good audience-recorded-video f the show from aug. 16th 2002. I wonder why Scotty Moore wasn't there as they even had used the enw technology for some 50s appearances, featuring DJ Fontana.
25th anniversary concert (http://jordans-elvis-world.com/video/files/25thann.ram)


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Never understood how people wouldn't like it.

I guess, and that's my downpoint with the album too, that Elvis sounds tired and like he didn't wanna be there. Only some cuts like TJW's "For ol' times sake" really stands out, and might very well be one of his best performances of the 70s.
Again, I like the album, I think it's much better than "Good times" for example, but it isn't a very strong or good performance of Elvis (of course compared to what he was capable). I wonder if this is the rock and roll-album that he mentioned in an '72 interview


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on August 04, 2007, 04:07:18 AM
Yeah it is the Rock and Roll album. I never thought he sounds tired. He doesn't attack the songs like 68-9 he just kind of finds a deeper more mellow groove. If You Don't Come Back for example is really funky, I think he was trying to just sound laid back. Nobody seems to see this though. Anyways I love For Old Times Sake, it had a lot of passion. He doesn't sound like "Elvis" on it but someone very insecure and just truly heartbroken.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on August 04, 2007, 11:10:12 AM
Yeah it is the Rock and Roll album. I never thought he sounds tired. He doesn't attack the songs like 68-9 he just kind of finds a deeper more mellow groove. If You Don't Come Back for example is really funky, I think he was trying to just sound laid back. Nobody seems to see this though. Anyways I love For Old Times Sake, it had a lot of passion. He doesn't sound like "Elvis" on it but someone very insecure and just truly heartbroken.


Well, I used to think that too but the more I listen to it the more I think he is just tired. His voice is flat on some of the songs and I don't see anything funky about him in "Just a little bit". The band is funky though but compare this to Jerry Lee's version of the song from the same year. "Girl of mine" might've been a nice filler if it wasn't for the sound of the mic he used. Sounds like speaking through a phone (from the 70s !). Personally if I want to listen to a great Elvis-album from that periode which had Elvis really doing what he felt like (I was even told that you can actually hear him being bored on the outtakes), I listen to "Promised land". But again, "Raised on rock" is for some strange reason one of my favorite albums of that era. It's charming the same way as Smiley Smile.


While we're at album discussions, here's an english article for the 30th tribute that discusses 7 of Elvis' best albums.... (well, at least that's what they say)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml;jsessionid=BYHWNNFH2HDG5QFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/arts/2007/08/04/bmelvis104.xml (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml;jsessionid=BYHWNNFH2HDG5QFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/arts/2007/08/04/bmelvis104.xml)


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on August 05, 2007, 02:34:07 AM
Jerry Lee's is a great version but he and Elvis approached the song quite differently. Elvis kind of made it sly subtle invitation to bed, Jerry Lee attacked it hard, with pure energy substituting for anything subtle. He is demanding sex. Promised Land is very good too but I still love Raised On Rock and the way Elvis sounds on everything (except Girl Of Mine that does sound bad). Glad you like it too even if for different reasons.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: NC on August 06, 2007, 06:58:22 AM
It's fairly evident to me that he was disinterested during the ROR sessions. It was an interesting experiment that failed. Consider the December Stax sessions where he sounds much more engaged. The first sessions were scheduled during a terrible time in his life, and that is evident in the performances. It's still an album I enjoy, mainly because it is so different. On a few songs, the laid back feeling adds to the feel of the track, like "Just A Little Bit" and "For Ol' Times Sake". On others, like "Raised On Rock" and "Girl Of Mine", he sounds tired and lifeless.

I also like Good Times a lot. I consider it more introspective than anything before From Elvis Presley Boulevard. The only tracks that don't fit in are "Spanish Eyes" and "I've Got a Thing About You Baby", which would have fit in better on ROR.
 




Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on August 06, 2007, 10:01:34 AM


I also like Good Times a lot. I consider it more introspective than anything before From Elvis Presley Boulevard. The only tracks that don't fit in are "Spanish Eyes" and "I've Got a Thing About You Baby", which would have fit in better on ROR.
 



Really? I always feel that "Good times" was one of his weaker albums, although there are a few great cuts on it. "Take good care of her" though is imho one of his worst performances. "I've got a thing about you baby" (inspired not by Tony Joe White's original but probably more by Billy Lee Riley's awesome '72 version) is a classic and should have been a hit. "My boy" is great and I think it reveals some of his personal feelings. I don't know why he didn't use the "pills"-line in "Good time Charlie's got the blues", probably because he didn't wanna be put in that direction. Cool performance btw, same for "Talk about the good times" and the awesome "Loving arms", one of his best songs ever. Now wait... I actually might like this album much better than I thought.... Except for "Take good care of her", there's alot of great music on it... Thanks for reminding me...


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: NC on August 06, 2007, 10:29:39 AM
I think the big problem with the three albums that came from those sessions was one of sequencning and editing. The weaker stuff brings each of the albums down.



Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: pixletwin on August 06, 2007, 06:40:06 PM
I was surprised on this anniversary that noone posted Bono's awesome tribute to Elvis: American David.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ke2Yd3IV3To

I love this poem!  8)


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on August 07, 2007, 02:32:56 AM
I think the big problem with the three albums that came from those sessions was one of sequencning and editing. The weaker stuff brings each of the albums down.




Well to me "Promised land" is probably his best album from the 70s and I can't find anything really weak on that. Some filelrs but still of high quality. They should've put the title track on "Raised on rock" though and another sad ballad on this album and it would be perfect. A great collection of sad songs, like Pet Sounds was once described.




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I was surprised on this anniversary that noone posted Bono's awesome tribute to Elvis: American David.

 


Very interesting, I never saw this. Although I usually don't care much about all this myth-things but for the only important thing, the music, it's always fascinating what he means to others and this here was done pretty intelligent.






Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on August 07, 2007, 03:08:54 AM
It's funny how much debate the Stax sessions always provoke. Kind of like the 8-74 shows which I love myself. In fact the only concerts I find consistently poor are the ones from the first nine months of 1976. While I don't really like the  Love Letters LP as a whole nor the 71 Xmas, the other studio LP's Elvis did in the 70's are very good. I really think a record like Fool, Raised On Rock, Elvis Now etc are superb albums despite them stemming from various sessions. I mean take Girl Happy Kissin Cousin's or things like that. That is the bad stuff. From 1954-1977 Elvis was usually an amazing artist. Only on some of the soundtracks do I truly dislike anything.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on August 07, 2007, 07:44:45 AM
From 1954-1977 Elvis was usually an amazing artist. Only on some of the soundtracks do I truly dislike anything.


I don't think anyone was denying this, but even a great artist like Elvis could do merda when he wasn't in a good enough mood. Anyway, thankfully most of his 70s stuff is far from being merda.


Guys, I just got the new "Viva Las Vegas"-CD. No, not the soundtrack to his movie, but a new BMG/RCA-CD of live stuff. I believe in the U.S. there will only be the one disc-edition, which is a shame, as the second includes an unreleased complete '69 concert, the first one that was recorded by RCA back then. The first one has some of the best Vegas-recordings Elvis did in great sound quality and at least "Polk salad" comes in the original mix, not the new one they used many times for CDs. Don't know about the other ones, because I hadn't had a chance to listen to everything yet. But I managed to listen to the '69 concert. It's not the best one from that time, but even an average '69-Elvis is better than most other rock-musicians. You should check it out, as it really is a fantastic release with probably the best music Elvis recorded.
There will be a TV-special on Elvis and Las Vegas and this CD should be the soundtrack to it if I understood it rightly.
If anyone wants to hear a snippet or two of this double-CD, email me at  onkelzlife@gmx.de or pm

Here's the single disc:

http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-Viva-Las-Vegas-Presley/dp/B000RIWAWQ/ref=sr_1_23/105-8601982-2757267?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1186497592&sr=1-23 (http://www.amazon.com/Elvis-Viva-Las-Vegas-Presley/dp/B000RIWAWQ/ref=sr_1_23/105-8601982-2757267?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1186497592&sr=1-23)


and this is the double disc with the unreleased '69 concert:

http://www.amazon.com/Viva-Las-Vegas-Elvis-Presley/dp/B000RZOR6G/ref=sr_1_68/105-8601982-2757267?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1186497764&sr=1-68 (http://www.amazon.com/Viva-Las-Vegas-Elvis-Presley/dp/B000RZOR6G/ref=sr_1_68/105-8601982-2757267?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1186497764&sr=1-68) (romours were that this won't be available after the TV-show, but I don't know if they changed their mind about it)


BTW did I told you that a german TV-station will play "Flaming star", "Elvis by the Presleys" plus the '68 Comeback in a row on august 15th? Word was that they also show the Aloha-concert the next day but I couldn't find it on their site.


EDIT: See this, official, site for a trailer for the "Viva Las Vegas" (single disc) and I guess infos where you can get the 2-disc-edition n the US:

http://www.elvisthemusic.com/ (http://www.elvisthemusic.com/)


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: halblaineisgood on August 10, 2007, 06:06:09 PM
Has anybody heard Arthur Alexander's original version of Burning Love?.....I have not.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on August 11, 2007, 05:09:51 AM
Yeah I have Alexander's  LP it's pretty good.  Elvis added the ending with the screaming.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on August 12, 2007, 10:22:08 AM
Elvis added the ending with the screaming.

But not the "hunka-hunka burning love", right? I heard that that was on the original too, but I haven't heard it, so I can't say.
I have to admit that I like the liveversion of that song better, he seems more into it.

While we were talking about the Memphis-albums from the early 70s (Stax), I think there was a big chance which they blew, to really make a great series out of it. Imagine three complete albums recorded in Memphis and then he presents them live with his first Memphis-show since '61, released as "Recorded live on stage in Memphis". I think that album is a very good one (in fact I wished the Aloha show would've been this good, performance wise). He's in very strong voice and sings with power, which was this way on many of the early '74-shows. Unfortunately he only played "Help me" from the Stax-sessions. Over the years "If you talk in your sleep" "My boy" "Raised on rock" "It's midnight" "Promised land" "Spanish eyes" "Good time Charlie's got the blues" were all played live and "You're love's been a long time coming" was rehearsed (which shows how much respect he had for the material that was recorded). That could've been such a fantastic show and very good promotion for his new albums. Just a little thought


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on August 12, 2007, 10:23:07 PM
The hunka hunka is there but not emphisised as much. I think the song ends with the first verse being sung at the fade. What I am getting at actually is that Elvis had to have gotten into Burning Love once he started recording it because it's hardly a paint by numbers cover version. Getting him into the mood may have been hard but I think he really made a classic once he decided to record it. That live album would have been a good idea, he probably just didn't think of it.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on August 14, 2007, 02:11:25 AM
Check this out:

http://www.smileysmile.net/index.php/news/jerry_schilling_and_elvis (http://www.smileysmile.net/index.php/news/jerry_schilling_and_elvis)

And with a little more text:

http://musicnews.virginmedia.com/news/?news_id=26196 (http://musicnews.virginmedia.com/news/?news_id=26196)

Anyone has that book? It seems not to be available in Germany, so I couldn't get it yet...


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on August 14, 2007, 09:36:21 PM
I have it and I like what I have read so far. He speaks of Elvis as a real friend no garbage in it.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on August 16, 2007, 03:27:42 AM
So yesterday was a big Elvis-event on a german TV-station, as I have posted before. they showed "Flaming star", after that "Elvis by the Presleys", which was nice but imo has no reason to exist because it's basically the same stuff that was already know, but Jerry Schilling and Michelle Beaulieu were tehre for a little Beach Boys-connection (unfortunately the don't talk about any relationship between Elvis and the boys). After that came the first big thing, a new edit, made out of the deluxe-DVD-edition, of the '68 comeback special. Very well done and changing between Stand-up and Sit-down-shows, unfortunately none of the production numbers (except "Trouble/Guitar man" and the new video of "If I can dream"). I wished they wouldn't have showed one of the stand-up "Blue suede shoes" but the one from the second sit-down-show.
After that came the Aloha-concert and fortunately they mostly used the stronger performances from that show, no boring "Hound dog" or "Blue suede shoes". the worst thing they showed was "I can't stop loving you" and that one is only bad because of the intro which Elvis totally blew. Actually you could almost think that this was a great concert, which it wasn't of course. They even used different camera-angles from the Deluxe-DVD.

All in all, a great evening of Elvis on TV and finally they showed that you can pay tribute to him by showing some of his finest hours and not "Paradise hawaiian style".
At the same time as "Elvis by the Presleys" and the Comeback was shown, another TV-station showed "It happened at the world's fair" and today they gonna bring "Viva Las Vegas" while a german-french art-TV-station is doing another Elvis-evening. Hope that I can watch enough of that as it's my mother's birthday and we all go out tonight.


Oh and the new best-of "Elvis - the King", which was advertised very much, because the TV-station, along with another one and Germany's biggest boulevard-magazine are the partners, is selling very good over here. It was top 5 yesterday on amazon.de and the awesome "Viva Las vegas" double CD was in the 60s.

Hope that they'll show "That's the way it is" and "Elvis on tour" for the next anniversary. I think this is the way to go to get Elvis back into everyone's minds as an artist


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on September 05, 2007, 02:35:43 AM
Here's something cool. It's a documentary about the making of Elvis' first album (the one with the cover that "The Clash" used for "London calling"). Sam Phillips, DJ Fontana, Scotty Moore, BB King, Keith Richards and Ernst Jorgensen are among those who where interviewed. You can hear how Sam Phillips was the producer during the Sun-years and how Elvis became his own when going to RCA (I hope those sessions you can hear little snippets of, will be released on FTD someday). I think it could've been a little deeper with more detail but at least there is a documentary that is about Elvis' work and music. It features some live-performances too. What do you guys think about it?


Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmdyB5CduJY)

Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsItN-LX5yk)

Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmvnwJWP_NM)

Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmsoe7BS2Y8)

Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyskkCKm9_M)

Part 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1dgDriRvA0)


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: MBE on September 05, 2007, 03:10:21 AM
It's ok but should have been more strictly on the album because so much of what's there is covered elsewhere. Also got tired of the celebrity talking heads. I would have rather seen a little more of the musicians who worked on it and of course more Elvis footage.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: I. Spaceman on September 06, 2007, 07:33:26 AM
There's a lot in Elvis By The Presleys that isn't covered elsewhere.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: Rocker on September 06, 2007, 09:19:19 AM
There's a lot in Elvis By The Presleys that isn't covered elsewhere.

But not too much about his work, or am I wrong? I only saw the edited version of "Elvis by the Presleys" that was shown on TV and to tell you the truth, I'm not very keen on seeing the rest if all is about this personal stuff.


Title: Re: Elvis - 30 years after
Post by: I. Spaceman on September 11, 2007, 06:42:09 AM
There's a lot in Elvis By The Presleys that isn't covered elsewhere.

But not too much about his work, or am I wrong? I only saw the edited version of "Elvis by the Presleys" that was shown on TV and to tell you the truth, I'm not very keen on seeing the rest if all is about this personal stuff.

Yep, it is not about the music. But for anyone who cares about the man himself, not just the artist, it is a great documentary.