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Title: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: analogdemon on January 23, 2006, 06:24:52 PM
Hey Everyone,

In 1975, Reprise put out a hits compilation of post 1966 stuff called "Good Vibrations - Best of the Beach Boys".  I have some questions for someone who has a copy:

1. Does "Do it Again" have the workshop coda at the end?
2. Does "Caroline, No" have the train and dog barking at the end?
3. Is "Wouldn't It Be Nice" the correct version as opposed to the more prominent lead vocal version that was on some of the 80s Capitol compilations?
4. Is "Heroes and Villains" the "45 version" or the regular version (not sure how to tell the difference).

Any answers would be appreciated.

Thanks!


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: I. Spaceman on January 23, 2006, 06:29:49 PM
#1 - Yes
#2 - No
#3 - Yes
#4 - Regular
Great album.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: analogdemon on January 23, 2006, 06:32:53 PM
Thanks dude.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: RobtheNobleSurfer on January 23, 2006, 06:33:28 PM
Stupid question (especially coming from me)

what's the diff between the 45 of H & V and the regular H & V? I thought they were one and the same.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: I. Spaceman on January 23, 2006, 06:35:53 PM
You know, I wonder that too. I know they're supposed to be different, but I can't figure out the difference.
GOD, HELP US WITH THIS DILEMMA!!!


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: RobtheNobleSurfer on January 23, 2006, 06:37:32 PM
I have the 45 but I'm too lazy to actually a/b it with Smiley.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 23, 2006, 10:57:31 PM
Same, as far as I know. I once read that the version of "GV" on this album was a slightly different mix, but again, can't hear it myself (and seeing as the master was mono and the vocal mutlitracks have been lost since about fall 1966, I kinda doubt it. Remastered maybe). Still, the source was of the highest caliber.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: Andreas on January 24, 2006, 01:41:50 AM
I have never heard of unique 45 mixes of Good Vibrations and Heroes & Villains.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: I. Spaceman on January 24, 2006, 01:43:40 AM
The liners on the GV box say 45 versions for GV and H&V. Check em. I think that's where that started.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: Andreas on January 24, 2006, 03:32:54 AM
The liners on the GV box say 45 versions for GV and H&V. Check em. I think that's where that started.
The versions on the GV box are the same versions and mixes as on the Smiley Smile album. The term "45 version" is technically correct, since these two songs appeared on 45 singles before they appeared on an album.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: Roger Ryan on January 24, 2006, 09:37:16 AM
2. Does "Caroline, No" have the train and dog barking at the end?


Actually, I'm pretty sure the train and dog barking are retained in the "Good Vibrations - Best Of The Beach Boys" release.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: I. Spaceman on January 24, 2006, 10:51:48 AM
The liners on the GV box say 45 versions for GV and H&V. Check em. I think that's where that started.
The versions on the GV box are the same versions and mixes as on the Smiley Smile album. The term "45 version" is technically correct, since these two songs appeared on 45 singles before they appeared on an album.

Yes, but it IMPLIES there's a difference.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: al on January 24, 2006, 11:09:43 AM
I always assumed they were differentiating the 45 (and Smiley Smile) version from the SMiLE outtakes that had preceeded it on the previous CD on the box-set. I didn't assume from that they meant anything else. I've got the 45 and it sounds exactly the same to me as the version on Smiley Smile.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: I. Spaceman on January 24, 2006, 11:11:32 AM
BUT all the other singles on the box were noted as being FROM such-and-such album, and those two tracks were not listed as FROM Smiley. They simply said 45 Version.


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: RobtheNobleSurfer on January 24, 2006, 04:08:10 PM
You know, I wonder that too. I know they're supposed to be different, but I can't figure out the difference.
GOD, HELP US WITH THIS DILEMMA!!!

God or AGD, one and the same, you know.  ;)


Title: Re: 1975 Hits Compilation
Post by: cta on January 24, 2006, 07:20:54 PM
Probably used "45 Version" to make it look like you were getting something you didn't have in the marketing of the box set.   

Especially with a Smile era track since there really weren't any compilations that had Smile-era material on it in such an amount as the box set, so they had to milk anything associated with Smile as much as possible - even by spinning the truth on already released tracks on an album.

Saying "Smiley Smile version" to differentiate H&V Pt. 2 or whatever on the set would have just been too honest.