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 The Beach Boys Present a New Career-Spanning Collection, 'The Warmth Of The Sun,' to be Released May 15 on CD and Digitally by Capitol/EMI
 

    The Beach Boys - The Warmth Of The Sun - cover art. (PRNewsFoto/Capitol/EMI)

HOLLYWOOD, CA UNITED STATES 03/06/2007
 
 


 Compiled By The Beach Boys, New Compilation's 28 Tracks Complement 2004's
     Double Platinum The Very Best Of The Beach Boys: Sounds Of Summer

    HOLLYWOOD, Calif., March 7 /PRNewswire/ -- The Beach Boys and
Capitol/EMI Music Catalog Marketing are proud to announce the May 15
release of "The Warmth Of The Sun," a new collection of 28 career-spanning
tracks, hand-selected and sequenced by The Beach Boys themselves. "The
Warmth Of The Sun" traces the iconic band's creative arc in a sunup to
sundown musical journey that goes beyond the beach, presenting a broad view
of the rich musical legacy of America's band.
    (Album cover art: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20070307/LAW010 )
    The perfect complement and companion to 2004's double-platinum
certified "Sounds Of Summer: The Very Best Of The Beach Boys," this new
collection delves deeper into The Beach Boys' musical legacy with hits like
"Sail On, Sailor" "The Little Girl I Once Knew" and "Feel Flows." Within
"The Warmth Of The Sun's" three decade-spanning tracklist, much of The
Beach Boys' most accomplished work is illuminated. Compiled and sequenced
by The Beach Boys' Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, Mike Love, and Brian Wilson,
"The Warmth Of The Sun" showcases the broad scope of the Rock and Roll Hall
of Famers' recorded canon.
    From the beauty and depth of the title track to the melody and groove
of "Break Away," the journey moves from the surf to the streets, each story
narrated with The Beach Boys' unparalleled trademark harmonies. With its
full spectrum of themes and ambiance, "The Warmth Of The Sun" is a
must-have collection for any fan of The Beach Boys' musical mythos.
    For four decades, The Beach Boys, originally comprised of the three
Wilson brothers: Brian, Carl and Dennis, their cousin Mike Love, and
Hawthorne, California neighbor Al Jardine, have recorded and performed the
music that has become the world's favorite soundtrack to summer. In 1965,
Bruce Johnston joined the band when Brian Wilson retired from touring.
Inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1988 and winners of NARAS'
Lifetime Achievement Grammy Award, The Beach Boys are an American
institution that is iconic around the world.
    In 1961, The Beach Boys began singing about America's newest craze,
surfing. What followed was a wave of hits that vividly expressed the
lifestyles, dreams and ambitions of America's youth. Their signature sound,
full of sun-drenched harmonies, golden melodies and descriptive lyrics,
delivered a taste of the free and easy California lifestyle to listeners
around the world. The music of The Beach Boys brings optimism and a beam of
Southern California sun wherever it is played.
    Last fall, Capitol/EMI Music Catalog Marketing celebrated the 40th
anniversaries of The Beach Boys' legendary 1966 album Pet Sounds and the
band's #1 smash hit single "Good Vibrations" with commemorative CD, deluxe
CD/DVD and limited edition vinyl packages.
    More than 100 domestic and international publications and journalists
have selected Pet Sounds as one of the greatest albums ever recorded. In
1995, MOJO magazine assembled a panel of leading musicians, songwriters and
producers and named "Pet Sounds" "The Greatest Album Ever Made," and in
1997, the U.K. music magazine voted "Good Vibrations" "The Greatest Single
of All Time." "Pet Sounds" was ranked second on Rolling Stone magazine's
"500 Greatest Albums of All Time" list (2003), right behind The Beatles'
"Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band." Rolling Stone has also awarded Pet
Sounds its highest five-star "Classic" rating, and in 2004, the magazine
rated "Good Vibrations" sixth in its list of "The 500 Greatest Songs of All
Time." The song has also been inducted into NARAS' Grammy Hall of Fame.
    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, OH will celebrate The
Beach Boys' enduring legacy this year with "Catch a Wave: The Beach Boys,
the Early Years," a new exhibit scheduled to run from June 22 to December
31, 2007. More than any other artistic entity, The Beach Boys created an
iconic vision of California as the Promised Land for those who would revel
in youth, surf, sand, and rock and roll. This exhibit explores their
formative years through never-before seen artifacts and tells the story of
the band's enduring legacy.
    For the latest Beach Boys news and tour dates, please visit the band's
official Website: http://www.thebeachboys.com
    "The Warmth Of The Sun" (CD and Digital Album)
    1. All Summer Long
    2. Catch A Wave
    3. Hawaii
    4. Little Honda
    5. 409
    6. It's OK
    7. You're So Good To Me
    8. Then I Kissed Her
    9. Kiss Me, Baby
    10. Please Let Me Wonder
    11. Let Him Run Wild
    12. The Little Girl I Once Knew
    13. Wendy
    14. Disney Girls (1957)
    15. Forever
    16. Friends
    17. Break Away
    18. Why Do Fools Fall In Love
    19. Surf's Up
    20. Feel Flows
    21. All This Is That
    22. 'Til I Die
    23. Sail On, Sailor
    24. Cool, Cool Water
    25. Don't Go Near The Water
    26. California Saga (On My Way To Sunny Californ-i-a)
    27. California Dreamin'
    28. The Warmth Of The Sun



SOURCE Capitol/EMI

Good selection (outside of missing Caroline No), but wish it was in order and on vinyl.

I'm kind of surprised, but very pleased, with the inclusion of "Feel Flows".  I, too, am surprised by the non-inclusion of "Caroline, No" and "Shut Down". 

I would guess that the inclusion of "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" is Mike Love's idea, as his band performs it all the time. 

I'm surprised that a full half of the "Surf's Up" was chosen, but I'm even more surprised that "Don't Go Near The Water" was chosen over "Long Promised Road".  I wonder what inspired this choice...I think a more appropriate song from that era would have been "Cottonfields".

What a terrible compilation! Why do they let artists present their own work??!!?

It's OK? Disney Girls (1957)? Why Do Fools Fall In Love? Don't Go Near The Water? California Saga (On My Way To Sunny Californ-i-a)? California Dreamin'?

Terrible choice when there's so much other good stuff, and awful sequencing.

What a greedy bunch of f*ckers they are at Capitol. Ther have been more compliations than albums were originally released. 'Career-spanning' - hardly... 

'Complement 2004's Double Platinum The Very Best Of The Beach Boys: Sounds Of Summer'...  (in other words this compo is just an advert for an ealier compo...)

Cool, Cool Water followed by Don't Go Near The Water...

God I hate this sort of thing.

Grr...

Let's see...


    1. All Summer Long  :-D
5/5 points

    2. Catch A Wave  :-D
5 points

    3. Hawaii  :-D
5 points

    4. Little Honda  :)
4 points

    5. 409  :)
3 points if it's the old mono mix
5 points for a new remix

    6. It's OK  >:(
1 - Iikes

    7. You're So Good To Me  :-D
5 - stereo?

    8. Then I Kissed Her  :)
4 - stereo?

    9. Kiss Me, Baby  :)
4

    10. Please Let Me Wonder  :-D
5

    11. Let Him Run Wild  :)
4 - stereo?

    12. The Little Girl I Once Knew  :-D
5 - stereo?!?!!!

    13. Wendy  :(
2

    14. Disney Girls (1957)  :(
2

    15. Forever  :-D
5

    16. Friends  :-\
3

    17. Break Away  :-D
5

    18. Why Do Fools Fall In Love  :(
2 - the BB wrote enough own material

    19. Surf's Up  :-D
5

    20. Feel Flows  :-\
3

    21. All This Is That  :-\
3

    22. 'Til I Die  :-D
5

    23. Sail On, Sailor  :)
4

    24. Cool, Cool Water  :(
2 - I totally adore the David Frost version, but the album version never did it for me

    25. Don't Go Near The Water  >:( :'( ::)
1

    26. California Saga (On My Way To Sunny Californ-i-a)  :-\
3

    27. California Dreamin'  :(
2

    28. The Warmth Of The Sun  :-D
5

Yay, another compilation album. Thrills. 

A few really good (and surprising) selections...some not so surprising....overall, a good compilation.

I'm happy 'Forever' made it.  ;D

Not so happy about 'Don't go Near the Water' and 'California Dreamin'...but hey, it's all a matter of personal preference. Whatever. But seriously, how many compilations do they need to release?  More rarities, less compilations. I'm pretty sure that won't happen, but it sure would be nice.

I don't want to jump the gun if there is such a gun to be jumped, but Jasper isn't too far off from being in the ballpark in terms of his stereo guesses.

Obviously it isn't perfect, but I think it's a pretty good compilation for people who only know the hits and want to look a little further.

And it's a good thing that more casual fans will get to know songs like "Forever", "Surf's Up" and "Til I Die".

I think it's very good except for the cover and "Why do fools fall in love", they could and should've put "Caroline no" instead of it. I like the water songs and "Don't go near the water" may very well be quite relevant these times. I think overall it is a great collection.

It's nice to see Brian and Al are still together making music btw.

Nothing from Pet Sounds??

f you had been in charge, what would you have put on this compilation? A few I would have considered (totally disregarding sales, which means I'm automatically fired from the project):

I think it would have been great to start an album called "Warmth of the Sun" with "Meant for You"-- just the same warm feeling
Don't Back Down
Our Car Club
Caroline, No
Cuddle Up (Forever is great, but casual fans' jaws would drop if they heard Cuddle Up)
Til I Die

I would be more interested in new live stuff.

But it's not a bad compilation. A bit strange maybe, but not bad.

Cool! I'm really excited about the new mixes, but I dont' count on a stereo version of "409"...


Well, CN was more a Brian Wilson solo song, so I'm not too surprised.


"I Just Wasn't Made For These Times" to represent the lesser known side of Pet Sounds...and maybe "You Still Believe In Me"; "Wake The World", "Country Air" (stereo mix without noises), "Little Bird", "Time To Get Alone" (Hawthorne Version), "Long Promised Road", "Marcella" (In Concert Version), "Still I Dream Of It" for the late 70's, ...

Well i'm gonna buy it, pretty good comp.

But i guess everyone and there dog owns pet sounds, so i guess there going for the more obscure stuff

I just love California from the California Saga, especially the single version. To some it may seem like a lazy rewrite of former glories and it probably is, but come on, it's great and perhaps even Alan Jardine's best ever song. Always had a thing for Don't Go Near The Water as well.
That said, it's kinda strange how Dennis Wilson always seems to have written just one decent song in the BB's entire career when it comes to compilations.

Personally, I think a few other DW songs are definitely worthy of a compilation. While maybe not a 'hits' collection (they weren't big hits, obviously), they do warrant a 'best of'. 'Celebrate the News', 'Be With Me'...'Cuddle Up'...I love those songs. And it's a crime that most people have never heard them because they don't make the compilations. I don't see a 'DW best of collection' legally making the light of day anytime soon...so it would at least be nice to see more of his stuff turn up on compilations. 'Forever' is an absolutely perfect, beautiful song...it's just not his only good song.

I'm going to go back on my opinion of 'Don't Go Near the Water' on my last post. I just re-listened to it...and for the first time in a long time, I actually really enjoyed it. Guess it depends on my frame of mind when I hear it. It is refreshing to see a lesser-known song on there, that's for sure.

This courtesy of Mark Linett via the blue board:

The new stereo mixes on "Warmth of the Sun" are........(drumroll please)

ALl SummerLong
Please Let Me Wonder
Let Him Run WIld
Then I Kissed Her
You're So Good To Me

Mark

This is the reason I am excited to pick this up.  I loved the stereo mixes given to us on Endless Harmony cd and the Hawthorne cds.  I can't wait to hear these.  Especially Let Him Run Wild.  Mark if you read this - thanks for the great work.  I love the original mono mixes but it is great to hear these songs opened up in stereo.  A new way to hear an old friend!

"Shut Down" is on SOUNDS OF SUMMER, naturally.

The weirdest transition, to me, is "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" to "Surf's Up"!!??!  ???

Apparently, they decided PET SOUNDS was covered well enuff with the special 40th anniversary releases, & all the other PS tours, etc....


Order?  You mean chronologically?  The SOUNDS OF SUMMER disc wasn't strictly chrono either, so I guess they wanted to follow that format for this one too.
 
Which track would be the most recent?  "It's OK"?  "California Dreamin"?  Those wouldn't have been much of a 'finale'...  (The SOS comp. ended w/ "Good Vibrations.")

The "Cool, Cool Water/ Don't Go Near The Water" combo is the same sequence as on the Sunflower/ Surfs- Up twofer which at the time (2000) I remember some reviewer writing how appropriate it was.

Only one compilation aside from Hawthorne in my house and that is "Made In The USA". While maybe not the most definitive of their career, I like the flow of the early songs with their basic structure progressing to the more highly produced songs later.

Of course we all have 20 songs and a order we would put them in and nowdays with home equipment we can do just that.

I'm not too psyched about another compilation, with the exception of the new stereo mixes. But I'd rather pay $8 or so for a 5-song EP of the new mixes than $15 (or whatever) for all these songs that I already have (often more than once) in the same old mix.

Take out:

1. Then I Kissed Her
2. Disney Girls
3. Friends
4. Why Do Fools Fall In Love
5. Feel Flows
6. All This Is That
7. Don't Go Near The Water

Replace with:

1. Caroline, No
2. Our Prayer
3. Cabinessence
4. This Whole World
5. Add Some Music To Your Day
6. The Night Was So Young
7. Baby Blue

That is some of the worst sequencing I've ever seen. Mike definitely had his hands in this one.

Yes it would be interesting to know the politics of the choices. I  remember during the rooftop reunion Mike said during a interview that he and Brian had been meeting to choose tracks. I would guess the record exec's and their legal teams would want their snouts in the trough as well.:angry    Wonder if Al, Bruce and Dave have a vote.

Some of the more oddball choices are...well odd, but I think there are a few songs on there that'll surprise the casual fan.

And the remixes are awesome.  It's nice to have a more steady platform for new mixes that isn't a Hawthorne type set.  Can't wait to hear Let Him Run Wild and Please Let Me Wonder.

Keep "Kissed her"...  Why deprive yourself of a sparkling stereo mix?

I'm very glad that "All This Is That" made it over "Marcella".  In all my 16 years as a fan, "God Only Knows" has been my favorite song, but I do believe that "All This Is That" claims that spot now.

:smash

youre nuts!

Only Don't Go Near The Water and California Dreaming are crap. Caroline, No and You Still Believe In Me should replace them.

I'd take Don't Go Near the Water over It's Okay any day.

Yes, yes, and no.

The sequencing was a committe job.

HERESY, I say! "Feel Flows" is one of my top ten BB songs and one of my all-time faves. Hhhmmmph!!

 :p

In my opinion, It's OK 's lyrics aren't anywhere near as embarassing as Don't Go Near The Water, and Denny's "Find A Ride" is much more palatable than Al's ridiculously oversung, jivey section on "...Water".

If "BWPS is a fraud" didn't convince me that you are crazy, then "take out 'Friends"" just did!!!!! :o

"Why Do Fools Fall In Love" (just to PLEASE Mike), "Friends" (pretty but not a classic), "Feel Flows" (overrated), "All This Is That" (nice but not great).

But LOOK at what I'm replacing them with - "Caroline, No", "Our Prayer", "Cabinessence", "This Whole World" - Brian's music, no ANY MUSIC doesn't get any better than that, including the songs on Sounds Of Summer Vol. 1.  :police:

Hey Sheriiff, where did you get my High School picture from for your avatar??

  ;D

"Don't Go Near The Water" seems a little quirky to include, but it's an interesting sample from those years and  that ending harmony does the trick.

I could definitely do without the covers: "Why Do Fools...", "Then I Kissed Her", and "California Dreamin'".  I'm sure the stereo "Kissed Her" will sound nice, but not convinced it's worth it.

One thing I question about this is the intent. It doesn't seem like an album designed for a particular "crowd" of Beach Boys fans, nor does it seem to be targeting a specific group of non-fans as an introduction. This might be a Mike Love kind of idea here, but rather than just releasing and re-releasing largely the same music people already have, it might make more sense to try to do a purposeful collection.

For example, a collection could feature the soulful, sometimes trippy sounds of the early 70s, or the pastoral sounds of the Friends kind of music, etc. And of course you can always do the best car songs, surf songs, etc., which I'm sure they've already done a hundred times (I know I've seen them, although I am not into that and don't have any). To my way of thinking, those sorts of collections would make sense, and could be marketed more specifically to people other than just uber-fans (the way things like Hawthorne are) and the general public (Sounds of Summer, BW Selects classics, etc).

Frist of all, let's face it, Sounds of Summer sold well so this compilation is about MAKING MONEY by producing a followup.  Unfortunately the song collection isn't as solid as Sounds of Summer, but perhaps the collective that put together the track list was thinking about exposing the more casual fans that bought Sounds of Summer to album tracks that could lead them to buy Sunflower/Surf's Up/Holland/15 Big Ones etc, which have never sold in the numbers the Capitol album rereleases have.  I might have chosen different tracks to represent those albums, but I bet the intent was to generate interest in the post Capitol catalogue.

Any release that features new stereo mixes from Today and Summer Days is a must buy on my list - I wish there had been more!  And more stereo remixes from Wild Honey - how come Darlin and Wild Honey (and Rhonda and When I Groy Up and Do You Wanna Dance) weren't remixed to stereo for Sounds of Summer?  How about a remixed edition of Sounds of Summer to accompany Warmth of the Sun?

The question is, will this sell?

Friends - "pretty, but not a classic"????????  What  are you on, anyway???????

yeah dude, youre nuts!

OK, Rob and Joe, you think I'm wrong in pulling "Friends" off the tracklist. That's cool. I respect your opinions. And I'm not gonna say you're "nuts" or ask you "what your on". 

But this I will ask you both: Do you think "Friends" is a better song/record/representative - put in your own word, you know what I mean - than "Caroline No", "Our Prayer", "Cabinessence", or "This Whole World"? And those were the songs I suggested to replace it. You would choose "Friends" over those?

To be honest, I think the Beach Boys' version of "Why Do Fools Fall In Love" is one of the best, if not THE best, covers of anything by anybody, anywhere.  The first time I heard it - many, many,many years ago (during the Johnson administration) that acapella break gave me chills.  It still gets me every time I hear it.

Gotta side with Boyd on this one. I like Friends a lot too, I think Caroline No is better as well as This Whole World. but Cabinessence and Our Prayer aren't the type of thing that go on comps. They are great but not really for casual fans.

I agree with others, Why Do Fools Fall In Love and California Dreamin???  I don't think the Beach Boys versions of either of these songs are gonna turn anyone onto them, especially WDFFIL Great vocals...but just not now in 2007! It should have stayed where it belonged , on  that album and the back of FFF. (Thanks Mike and Bruce for resurrecting that one)  Big Sur might have fit nice after Don't Go Near The Water?? Nothing from Love You??? Goin On, I would have liked to see? Somewhere Near Japan..one of the best later songs! Those early 60s albums have some better gems than WDFFIL!

Whoa, why is 'Why Do Fools Fall In Love'  getting the shaft by so many? That one is easily the Beach Boys' greatest cover song, with the exception of 'Sloop John B.' In fact, I argue that the BBs version of that song blows the original away (and I do LOVE the original)! Brian's vocal is just incredible, and the track is an early example of his love of Spector. Classic in every way. I naturally included WDFFIL on my own best of volume 1 compilation. One of the greatest songs on Shut Down, volume 2.

And 'Friends'? Beautiful song. Better than 'Caroline, No', 'Our Prayer', 'Cabinessence', or 'This Whole World'? No, but so what? Hits comps are really put out to draw in the neophytes. Those two SMiLE songs are better for the new listener to discover for his/herself, like I did. I didn't expect to have any SMiLE tracks to appear on Endless Summer when I first bought it as my own personal Cliff's Notes to accompany and give a wider understanding for my countless listens to Pet Sounds, when I first discovered it nearly 8 years ago. I got to discover those songs courtesy of the GV box. So, as far as presenting "just the facts, ma'am", I don't see why SMiLE tracks need apply there. Now, 'Caroline, No' and 'This Whole World' should be on that new best of comp; I always include 'em on my personal best of compilations that I made. SMiLE tracks, however, have no place on 'em (except the '67 single of H&V and '71 'Surf's Up', but that's quite different).

Whew, what a rant. Where'd that come from?

Alan, will it be the single-version we'll hear on WOTS or the album version? I think the first one isn't available anywhere legally.



EDIT: Hope the liner notes will be better this time and Blondie and Ricky will be mentioned as "Beach Boys" since they are even to be heard.

I'm shocked by how many people don't like 'WDFFIL'. I think it's a great cover, and just a good song in general. I've always loved their version...one of my favorite covers of all time.

PS: I love 'Friends'. I don't think it's necessarily out of place on the compilation. It's a good representation of what they were doing at that time in their career.

Just want to add that on my ranking I gave WDFFIL a 2/10 in context of this compilation. There is enough very good original material for such a release IMO. WDFFIL is a great song and fantastic cover, better than the original.

@Summer_Days: Great avatar!

part of me still hopes any newly released beach boy lp sells well. and i have to admit, after all the group bickering of the past decade and deaths of 2 members, another part doesn't care what it sells. there was that time though i hoped everything would sell well, and when it didn't i was very disappointed.
my gut feeling is, why would this one sell well now vs when the bulk of this cd's song lineup was originally released  they didn't sell well then? why expect it now? the public has had many chances to "discover" this music and most never did. i think the public buys the "hits" and that is it. its a shame. seems like every "vol 1" or whatever sells the most verses "vol 2". the 1st one loads up on the hits and that is what sells.
just my 2 cents worth..................... and part of me still hopes i will be proven wrong and it sells well....
and of course i will buy it.... :)

WHY wasn't "Surfin'" included?  Anyone know?  Seems to me it should have been somewhere in the first 6 tracks or so...   Maybe following "409"?

I don't get why they just don't do a definitive compilation - you can encompass the sixties in two discs [at 78 minutes apiece] and delete the other stuff. You could fit:

Disc One:

Surfin'
Surfin' Safari
409
Surfin' USA
Shut Down
Surfer Girl
Little Deuce Coupe
Catch A Wave
In My Room
Be True To Your School [45]
Little Saint Nick [45]
The Warmth Of The Sun
Fun, Fun, Fun
Don't Worry Baby
I Get Around
Little Honda
Wendy
All Summer Long
When I Grow Up [To Be A Man]
Dance, Dance, Dance
Please Let Me Wonder
Kiss Me, Baby
Do You Wanna Dance?
Help Me, Rhonda
Let Him Run Wild
California Girls
Then I Kissed Her
You're So Good To Me
Girl Don't Tell Me
The Little Girl I Once Knew
Barbara-Ann [45 edit]
Sloop John B.

Disc Two:

Wouldn't It Be Nice
You Still Believe In Me
God Only Knows
Caroline, No
Here Today
Good Vibrations
Wonderful [Smile]
Cabinessence
Surf's Up
Heroes And Villains
Wild Honey
Darlin'
Here Comes The Night
Country Air
Little Bird
Meant For You
Friends
Wake The World
Busy Doin' Nothin'
Bluebirds Over The Moutain
Time To Get Alone
Do It Again
I Can Hear Music
Forever
Break Away
Slip On Through
Cotton Fields
This Whole World
Tears In The Morning

Surely that would encompass the high points of the 1961-1969 era - sure there could be few substitutions, but that's the best mix, in my opinion of "art" versus "hits".

From a release-date standpoint, you've got some 1970 songs in there with the Sunflower songs.

This particular compilation is targeted specifically at people who bought "Sounds of Summer," in hopes of exposing them to the deeper BB catalog.   SOS has sold soooo well (almost 3 million by now) that, if even a fraction of that audience is intrigued enough to pick up this CD..... and a fraction of THAT audience is thus inspired to check out, say, "Sunflower/Surf's Up" or "Today/Summer Days," then this release will help to breathe new life into the catalog.... and hopefully that will lead to further archival releases.

I'm really hoping that there will be folks out there who will see this in a store, say to themselves, "I sure liked that Sounds of Summer CD," and they'll look at the track list and go, "409, I know that one, she's real fine, cool.... All Summer Long, that one's good.... Why Do Fools Fall In Love?  Man I loved it when they sang that at tha fair last year.... The Beach Boys did California Dreamin?  I LOVE that song....yeah, I think I'll get this!" and they'll take it home and hear "Please Let Me Wonder" and "Let Him Run Wild" and "Surf's Up"" and "Til I Die" and "Break Away" and "Warmth of The Sun" and "Sail On Sailor" for the first time.... and they'll be touched, moved, surprised (or, as Brian would say, "blown out"), and the next thing you know we'll have a bunch of newbies here on the board asking all sorts of dumb questions and driving AGD bonkers.

That's what we're all hoping for.

Alan

Yeah, but from a recording standpoint, which I always think is more pertinent, the later ones are all at least started in 1969; I think only maybe "Tears"' recording moved into 1970.

As a former extremely dumb newbie and unfortunately now sometimes too snobbish fan of only decent knowledge (nowhere near those with the most), I must say: LOL.

Welcome one and all!  I love hearing "dumb" BB questions, actually... it means they're new to the catalog and just starting to get into it.

I have to say that the biggest compliment I ever got on the ENDLESS HARMONY film was when somebody came up to me and said that the day after they saw that on VH-1 they went out and bought $100 worth of Beach Boys' CDs.  That just about made my year.

I have a dumb question or three, actually:

Ol' Man River: Aside from the gospel-esque group harmony version and the uptempo medley-with-Old-Folks-At-Home version, are there any other releaseable versions of that song?

Any chance of official live releases of Your Song, Surf's Up, Okie From Muskogee, Jumping Jack Flash or I've Got A Friend at any time ever? Do you have "officially recorded live versions of those songs in the archives?

And what can you tell us about "Telephone Backgrounds on a Clear Day" from the Surf's Up sessions? How long is it?

Thanks!

I guess, if I can read in to what Alan Boyd is saying, that if this sells well, then it bodes well for BBCentral.

If not... then... I guess we're stuck with that blue background and collage that has been torturing us for almost a year now...

That said, I'll pick up a copy for home and car, probably a few for some friends too... assuming I have a job by that point... 

Friends is every bit the equal of the song of what you have chosen.  I have no qualms with those, just a few of what you wanted to take out.  OK, just about all of them.

Take out:

1. Then I Kissed Her

I always liked this, and it was a huge UK chart hit in '67.

2. Disney Girls

Another one where I'd probably ask you "that question".  It's Bruce's best song and has gotten quite a  few covers for being a BB rarity (Art Garfunkel, Cass Eliot)

3. Friends

One of the best BB songs of the period, period! And one of my Top 5 fave BB songs. You aren't going to take that one off of a comp!!!

4. Why Do Fools Fall In Love

You might have a poinrt, but geez, listen to the a capella break!!!! A bit so good that when the Mike and Bruce BB do it live, they actually START with that bit! That should tell you something.

5. Feel Flows

I admit, it took me a while to warm to the lyrics, but   now I like it too.  Plus it did get quite a bit of exposure thanks to Almost Famous.

6. All This Is That

The greatest BB track w/o Brian. Everyone sings subimely on that one, even Mike. And Carl's falsetto tag? You wouldn't be out of line calling that his finest hour as a singer.

7. Don't Go Near The Water

OK,  I think I can agreee on this one. THIS is what you should take out and replace with a This Whole World!

Ol' Man River:  As far as I know, that's all there is on that one.  The vocal vesrion was pieced together from a couple of separate takes.

We do have good myulti-track recordings of most of those songs live, except "Okie" and "I've Got A Friend."  I do hope that we'll be releasing some more live material soon.... there are a couple of specific projects being discussed for release through the BB website, and we're still transferring, cataloguing, and preserving tapes.

I haven't heard "Telephone Backkgrounds" but I'm told it's merely sound effects - there's no song there, unfortunately.

Thanks for the replies!

I just wondered about Ol' Man River, since I believe it was one of Brian's "obsession" songs - I thought that there'd be lots of versions of it. I like the song and both versions of it.

Shame about "I've Got A Friend", that was the one I'd hoped could be placed in the "canon" the most...

Badman says "Telephone Backgrounds" was a moog collage, so that figures. I wonder if it was intended to be an intro to something.. Til I Die perhaps?

so is there gonna be anything new on this to get the hardcore fans to buy? like SOS had that dvd an a couple new extra stereo tracks...

New stereo remixes of previously mono-only cuts done by ML (not not THAT ML!) ;)

Unfortunately, judging from the tracklisting to the comp, NOBODY will be asking the "dumb" question of, "Hey, how tall was Denny???" If you sneeze, you miss him.

Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again?

funny thing...the day after I saw it I went and bought every BB cd that Best Buy had in stock...I must say, Endless Harmony impacted me in the same way. It was the first time I'd ever paid attention to the Beach Boys in more than a 'casual' listener way.


Anyway, back on track...I don't mind 'dumb questions' from 'newbies'...I've been a Beach Boys fanatic for about 9 years now and I still don't know anywhere near what I'd like to know about them (probably because I absolutely know squat about the process that goes into recording a song). Dumb questions are something that every fan shouldn't be afraid to ask. It's how you learn.

Hooray for the dumb questions

I've been a fan for 16 years and there are still times I find myself asking a dumb question.

Thankfully the world has it's share of AGDs, ABs, and others who are happy to share their knowledge

Crazy, I've been a fan for 16 years too...

I miss being able to ask dumb questions, not that I haven't asked any lately, but because dumb questions are usually answerable.  Now all of my Beach Boys questions are generally lost to time, like "what mics were used on every instrument for the recording of Wouldn't It Be Nice" or "how did the boys set up in the studio for the recording of Dance, Dance, Dance" or "Who played bass on each track of Wild Honey" etc.

okay my math skills suck...   I dunno what I was thinking when I said 16 years...  sorry Eric 

Summer of 86... to Spring of 07... that's 21 years according to my handy-dandy calculator

Man, I've been a fan longer than it took me to get thru school and have my first drink.  YIKES!!  Where do the years go?

I still remember going to the store to get a copy of "Endless Summer" after hearing "I Get Around" in the Disney movie "Flight of the Navigator" the previous evening....

...and the rest, as they say, is history

Huh...I remember hearing it (and "When I Grow Up") in Look Who's Talking. They were the only two BB songs I liked until I actually got into the group in 1995. That's another (long) story...

Gee, thanks buddy !  ;D I'll just give 'em your email addy.

It's the single version that starts with the acapella-break, which leads me to repeat my question if WOTS will have the single version on it since that one isn't available afaIk

It just hit me, why the hell has 'All I Wanna Do' not been included.

Wow. I don't have the FFF 45 so I've never heard Why Do Fools like that. 

At Alan boyd's request I just played my original picture sleeve single that I bought when the record came out (yeah I'm that old) and it does not start with the acapella break. It starts with Mike's bass vocal, going into the group ooh wah ooh wah etc......

If anyone has a version that starts with the acapella "why do fools fall in love" we'd like to know exactly where it was released, but its not on the original US Capitol single.

Mark Linett

I'm obviously still trying to figure out how this whole "quote" thing works....  ::)

My 80s reissue single has the ooooo opening.

so this would appear to be something someone did later without the group's knowledge. Can you tell us the label and color (purple Capitol label with the dome on it? ) and the release number of the disc? I assume that it is still the flip of "Fun Fun Fun". At any rate we are using the original 45 version on the Warmth CD.

Thanks.... Mark

Yes, the so-called single mix makes the rounds, on half-hearty Japanese compilations released by Capitol for example.

This is just speculation, but could it be from the European "Fun, Fun, Fun" EP, released in June 1964?

Edit:
Japanese "Beach Boys Single Collection" (Capitol TOCP-7771-73)
includes single mixes of many songs from the Capitol era like "Hushabye", "Little Bird", "Wake The World", "Bluebirds Over The Mountain", "Never Learn Not To Love", "All I Want To Do" etc...

Re: 'Why Do Fools Fall In Love' - that should be single EDIT, and not single MIX, right?

Yes it would be an edit using the middle acapella break at the top.

Anyone have the European single that can check ? It would be interesting to discover when the version with the acapella intro first appeared since it wasn't on the US 45.

I'll have to look it up but was the song released as the A side of a single anywhere?

Mark

edit: error

I thought I had found the right single, but I had not.

Man, I wish this compilation was just full of Love You...imagine being some casual fan and pickin up this CD, starting out with Wendy, or Honda, or 409 or something and then just launching into Solar System, Ding Dang, and Mona.

People just don't know how to market these days...

Sure, scare the crap out of the listener, why don't ya!
You've got to build up to these things, I think. You go from, say, 'Girls On The Beach' straight into 'Roller Skating Child' and your head might explode.

(oh and I'm not sure if it's quite evident in what I said above, but I quite adore Love You...)

Mark my copy is the purple starline x6106 51179. Yes Fun, Fun, Fun is stil the a side. Very clean pressing. I think it is on the UK Capitol Years set if I am not mistaken.

Allright, thanks.
I thought the other one was the original single. I just heard it once or twice from a friend who told me it was the single and i liked it. So sorry for all this confusion.