Title: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: matt-zeus on February 10, 2007, 02:54:45 PM A new version of God only knows on some new comp which also includes the new Bacharach/Brian song- strange!:
http://www.180music.com/spotlight/features_newmusic.html Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Chris Brown on February 10, 2007, 04:24:54 PM Interesting. Brian sounds really good. The fake harpsichord bugged me but other than that it sounded very faithful to the original.
Can't wait to hear the final version of "What Love Can Do". Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 10, 2007, 04:50:18 PM I can't seem to play it. Maybe it's my crappy comp with Windows 98...
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: melissalynn on February 10, 2007, 04:54:40 PM Not bad, I'm pretty impressed with how good he sounds here.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Don't Back Down on February 10, 2007, 05:33:54 PM Hm, I'd like to hear the whole song rather than just a small clip but not bad, nowhere near as good as the original obviously. The last "God Only Knows what I'd be without you" line where it cuts off after "God Only Knows", sounds like Bruce Johnston. I know it's not, but sounds similar.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: bossaroo on February 10, 2007, 05:37:45 PM that does sound really good. nice multiple vocal tracking. and it does look/sound like Bruce in that clip... NICE.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 10, 2007, 07:10:25 PM call me fucking crazy, but im pretty sure they tracked this over the original track..leaving in bruce's old vocal tag.
because thats definitely bruce at the end... Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Chris Brown on February 10, 2007, 09:18:40 PM call me fodaing crazy, but im pretty sure they tracked this over the original track..leaving in bruce's old vocal tag. because thats definitely bruce at the end... You're right, it does sound like Bruce. The only thing though is that he couldn't possibly use the original track (or any part of the original song) without going through lots of legal red tape. I think the band just did a great job re-creating the sound of the original record. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 10, 2007, 09:39:57 PM Can somebody please convert this to an mp3? I cannot play it...
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Sheriff John Stone on February 10, 2007, 10:47:29 PM I don't know what they did to get Brian to sound like that and I don't care. If Brian can still sing like he did on that short clip, there's still hope! :police:
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Shane on February 10, 2007, 11:12:53 PM This is one weird clip of music. Brian sounds absolutey great, great to the point to where I'm doubting it a little. The last 3 seconds or so have part of the 1966 version "flown in". I am certain of it. Bruce is in there, along with the original backing track. Its only the last 3 seconds or so that have this, though, the rest is Brian's band.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: brother john on February 10, 2007, 11:34:38 PM This is one weird clip of music. Brian sounds absolutey great, great to the point to where I'm doubting it a little. The last 3 seconds or so have part of the 1966 version "flown in". I am certain of it. Bruce is in there, along with the original backing track. Its only the last 3 seconds or so that have this, though, the rest is Brian's band. I agree that the harpsichord is annoying, but don't understand how anyone can hear Bruce in there, and there's certainly none of the original version in there either... Someone who sounds like Darian is in there, and you can here (and see) Jeff, but this is all remake with the current band, no mistake. :angel: Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: bossaroo on February 10, 2007, 11:46:16 PM at the 10-second mark, they show a dude in a white ball cap from a distance who i thought might be Bruce.
upon review, i think they just threw the original tag on for the last second or two. Bruce and Hal Blaine's drumming are unmistakable. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: brother john on February 11, 2007, 12:00:15 AM at the 10-second mark, they show a dude in a white ball cap from a distance who i thought might be Bruce. upon review, i think they just threw the original tag on for the last second or two. Bruce and Hal Blaine's drumming are unmistakable. Yeah! I thought it looked like Bruce too! But no way, dude, is any of it old GOK! I know what you man about the tiny snatch of Bruce, but I bet if we heard a bit more of the track it would sound less like him... Or hell! Maybe it really does feature the current craggy B Johnston! Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: XY on February 11, 2007, 12:37:33 AM I think Brian shouldn't re-record his own Beach Boys classics. :-\
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Rocker on February 11, 2007, 04:15:55 AM I don't like him re-recording his old stuff neither, but here it's part of the concept (one old, one new).
I don't like the fake-harpsichord and Jeff Foskett is awfully out of tune at at least one note in the end. That shouldn't be in a finished master imo.... Brian sounds strong though. I am looking forward to "What love can do". Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Amy B. on February 11, 2007, 05:49:49 AM If Jeff is out of tune but Brian sounds great, well then, maybe they didn't manipulate Brian's vocal that much. I mean, wouldn't they have done the same with Jeff's?
You know, Brian has been sounding pretty great lately for his age. I think his voice is an amazing instrument that changes according to his emotional state. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 11, 2007, 08:25:49 AM What program did you guys use to play it? It won't let me play it on my comp...
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Pim_Derks on February 11, 2007, 08:58:13 AM The music sounds like a new take to me, but the last God Only Knows dóes sound very Bruce-ish..... I just wish Brian would put out some new music instead of rehashes of old stuff - but don't we all :P
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: bossaroo on February 11, 2007, 09:21:29 AM i played it in Windows media player.
it's just a 30-sec clip... kind of a tease. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Sheriff John Stone on February 11, 2007, 09:26:48 AM If ANY of The Beach Boys were on this recording, we would know about it, don't ya think...
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Leo K on February 11, 2007, 10:08:17 AM Brian's voice is problably Pro Tooled...but the timbre of his voice sounds so good I don't even care. Beautiful sound. I can't wait to hear the full version.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Don't Back Down on February 11, 2007, 10:17:51 AM What program did you guys use to play it? It won't let me play it on my comp... I used Winamp Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: yrplace on February 11, 2007, 10:20:10 AM To lay these rumours to rest, this is a 100% new recording of GOK performed by Brian and his band.
Mark Linett Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: the captain on February 11, 2007, 10:26:39 AM Ah, but Mark, rumors never die on this board. We don't take the truth from authorities--we make up our own. I suspect we'll be hearing forevermore that BW and his band used the PS version...
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Swamp Pirate on February 11, 2007, 10:28:02 AM Thanks Mark.
And thanks for the good work you've done over the years. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 11, 2007, 11:05:35 AM It crashed Winamp and Windows Media Player. I think its my crappy computer. I Get an error saying that type of file is not supported. Quicktime ain't working either.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: SloopJohnB on February 11, 2007, 12:05:21 PM It's DEFINITELY Bruce in the last two seconds of the song. Maybe not in the "final product" that'll be released, but on the soundclip featured in this video, it IS Bruce.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: SloopJohnB on February 11, 2007, 12:12:35 PM ...And I've uploaded the video on MegaUpload. Here's the link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3IYGK2V0 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3IYGK2V0) :) Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 11, 2007, 12:43:47 PM Cool~ Let me download it now, and it should work for me.
edit yeah...this time it looks like a regular wmv file. For some reason when I tried to dl it before, it was saving as some other kind of file. Thanks! Oh God...he sounds GREAT! Could that voice at the end be Nelson? Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: yrplace on February 11, 2007, 01:33:37 PM It's DEFINITELY Bruce in the last two seconds of the song. Maybe not in the "final product" that'll be released, but on the soundclip featured in this video, it IS Bruce. I knew this "discussion" woldn't die just because I posted the facts. Believe whatever you like, but that is not Bruce nor is the original recording used for any part of the track. To do so would cause all sorts of legal issues and there is no reason to use it anyway. This is meant to be a new recording by Brian of GOK. If memory serves it's Probyn who sings the answer line at the end of the song. Mark Linett Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: SloopJohnB on February 11, 2007, 01:40:00 PM yeah...this time it looks like a regular wmv file. For some reason when I tried to dl it before, it was saving as some other kind of file. Thanks! That's because you were basically downloading a link, but not a file. You are supposed not to be able to grab the video, just to be able to play it while you're online. :( To get that video, I left-clicked on the link, let it load and play, and then searched for it in my Temporary Internet Files folder. Quote Could that voice at the end be Nelson? I'm SURE that, in the last two seconds, it's Hal Blaine's drumming and Bruce's voice. I would swear to it. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: SloopJohnB on February 11, 2007, 01:46:22 PM It's DEFINITELY Bruce in the last two seconds of the song. Maybe not in the "final product" that'll be released, but on the soundclip featured in this video, it IS Bruce. I knew this "discussion" wouldn't die just because I posted the facts. Believe whatever you like, but that is not Bruce nor is the original recording used for any part of the track. To do so would cause all sorts of legal issues and there is no reason to use it anyway. This is meant to be a new recording by Brian of GOK. If memory serves it's Probyn who sings the answer line at the end of the song. Mark Linett I truly believe you, but I think you're talking about the version that will be released. But if you download the video with this link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3IYGK2V0 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3IYGK2V0)) and listen to the last 2 seconds (0:30 to 0:32) of the song featured in the video (which is obviously not the final version), I can't see how you could pretend that it's not Bruce singing and Hal at the drums. Despite our - temporary? :-D - disagreement, might I add that I respect you and your work a lot? Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Andrew G. Doe on February 11, 2007, 02:05:58 PM So... you're saying that Mark didn't engineer the few seconds used for the video ? Or that he did, but after he went home, someone overdubbed a part of the 1997 box ?
FWIW, it does sound a lot like Bruce. But it isn't. Trust me on this, or if you won't trust me (and who could blame you ?), trust the the guy who actually worked the board for the session. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: the captain on February 11, 2007, 02:30:00 PM Ah, but Mark, rumors never die on this board. We don't take the truth from authorities--we make up our own. I suspect we'll be hearing forevermore that BW and his band used the PS version... Can I call 'em or what? I love this place. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Chris Brown on February 11, 2007, 03:25:22 PM I think the thing that is really throwing every one off is that when you see the 3 guys in the studio start the tag, Brian sings the first "God only knows what I'd be with-ouuuuut", then someone else sings the second one, and Foskett does the high part (where he was flat on one note, but that's beside the point). But as the round continues, in the last few seconds, someone else is singing that second "God only knows what I'd be with-ouuuut", and it's not the same person who sang it the first time. That's why this all seems so weird. That and the drum fill before "Bruce" sings suggest that someone did some weird edit at the end there. I totally trust and believe Mark here, and like I pointed out earlier, Brian couldn't use the original song even if he wanted to due to all the legal hassles. But that IS Bruce at the end, there's no doubt about it. It's the same part he sang on the original, and nobody in Brian's band could imitate him that well. Obviously Bruce is not on the new recording, but somehow he got edited onto the last few seconds of that video, for some unknown reason.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 11, 2007, 05:00:57 PM Im gonna have to agree with the naysayers. Although its probably a new recording, the very last 'god only knows' sounds like nobody but Bruce. Ofcourse, whoever sang it might have been able to reproduce it to the T...then again perhaps (and this is the cynic joe talkin) they did infact sample the original, but they dont want anyone to know...so they'll just keep insisting that its a brand new recording. :p
Ive listened to it a few times, and the quality of the recording even sounds different at the very end, its like if they pasted the original ontop of the new one just for the videos sake. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: melissalynn on February 11, 2007, 06:26:01 PM If that isn't Bruce...somebody cloned him.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: SloopJohnB on February 12, 2007, 12:16:51 AM ...Brian sings the first "God only knows what I'd be with-ouuuuut", then someone else sings the second one, and Foskett does the high part (where he was flat on one note, but that's beside the point). But as the round continues, in the last few seconds, someone else is singing that second "God only knows what I'd be with-ouuuut", and it's not the same person who sang it the first time. That's why this all seems so weird. That and the drum fill before "Bruce" sings suggest that someone did some weird edit at the end there. I totally trust and believe Mark here, and like I pointed out earlier, Brian couldn't use the original song even if he wanted to due to all the legal hassles. But that IS Bruce at the end, there's no doubt about it. It's the same part he sang on the original, and nobody in Brian's band could imitate him that well. Obviously Bruce is not on the new recording, but somehow he got edited onto the last few seconds of that video, for some unknown reason. My thoughts exactly. And as Joe ponted out, there's a very noticeable sound quality difference at the end... I've posted a zip file containing the "2007 part" and the original 1966 part. It's only 128kb, so download it. And if anyone goes on saying that it isn't Bruce, I... I... I don't know. I'd be very disappointed to know that there are some people on this board who don't have ears anymore. :( Here's the link: http://rapidshare.com/files/16124720/GOK_-_1966-2007_comparison.zip.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/16124720/GOK_-_1966-2007_comparison.zip.html) It *IS* Bruce, dammit! ;D Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: XY on February 12, 2007, 12:36:40 AM OK, we all got the joke. It was very funny. And now back to normal please. :lol
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Rocker on February 12, 2007, 04:11:14 AM It sure sounds alot like Bruce, but it's probably Scott Benett (or Probyn Gregory as Mark pointed out). I don't see why they should put the original part in there. It's too much work for two seconds. I don't think it is Bruce...
@Mark Linett: Any chance that one part where Jeff is out of tune will be re-recorded? It's around 0:27-0:28 Oh and can you tell us who sings "What love can do"? brian or another singer like on the demo-version? Thanks Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: LostArt on February 12, 2007, 05:20:24 AM To lay these rumours to rest, this is a 100% new recording of GOK performed by Brian and his band. Mark Linett It's DEFINITELY Bruce in the last two seconds of the song. Maybe not in the "final product" that'll be released, but on the soundclip featured in this video, it IS Bruce. I knew this "discussion" woldn't die just because I posted the facts. Believe whatever you like, but that is not Bruce nor is the original recording used for any part of the track. To do so would cause all sorts of legal issues and there is no reason to use it anyway. This is meant to be a new recording by Brian of GOK. If memory serves it's Probyn who sings the answer line at the end of the song. Mark Linett I truly believe you, but I think you're talking about the version that will be released. But if you download the video with this link (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3IYGK2V0 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3IYGK2V0)) and listen to the last 2 seconds (0:30 to 0:32) of the song featured in the video (which is obviously not the final version), I can't see how you could pretend that it's not Bruce singing and Hal at the drums. Despite our - temporary? :-D - disagreement, might I add that I respect you and your work a lot? Un-frickin'-believable! That's all I can say. GOK 2007 engineer vs. unknown message board posters. Gee, I think you guys are right. Yeah, the website uses 27 seconds of the new track to showcase a new recording, but then they decide that the last 3 seconds isn't good enough, so they "secretly" (shh, let's keep this quiet, send Linett a memo to keep his mouth shut about those last 3 seconds) edit the last 3 FRICKIN' SECONDS OF THE ORIGINAL ONTO THE NEW DEMO, KNOWING THAT THAT 3 SECOND CHANGE WILL SELL MORE COPIES OF THE PRODUCT. Yeah, that's it. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: melissalynn on February 12, 2007, 05:42:13 AM Yeah, it does sound like a crazy conspiracy. I'm thinking that part of the new version just sounds insanely like the original. And I'm going to leave it at that.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: LostArt on February 12, 2007, 05:54:30 AM By the way, Mr. Linett (should you decide to ever return to this place), that new God Only Knows sounds great. Can you tell us if Brian has recorded enough songs for the new album? Will the Bacharach collaboration be a part of the album? Thanks for visiting the site and for trying to keep us all informed.
Artie Formiller Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 12, 2007, 07:12:47 AM Un-frickin'-believable! That's all I can say. GOK 2007 engineer vs. unknown message board posters. Gee, I think you guys are right. Yeah, the website uses 27 seconds of the new track to showcase a new recording, but then they decide that the last 3 seconds isn't good enough, so they "secretly" (shh, let's keep this quiet, send Linett a memo to keep his mouth shut about those last 3 seconds) edit the last 3 FRICKIN' SECONDS OF THE ORIGINAL ONTO THE NEW DEMO, KNOWING THAT THAT 3 SECOND CHANGE WILL SELL MORE COPIES OF THE PRODUCT. Yeah, that's it. settle down, beavis. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Roger Ryan on February 12, 2007, 10:01:14 AM Well, here's another CD I'll have to buy to get a new Brian Wilson song while wading through a lot of artists I have little interest in!
Again, I'm not sure why a good Brian vocal is such a surprise to people here. His performance sounds pretty close to his live take on the song for the past few years. I'm not saying it hasn't been touched up a little in the studio, but he's still capable of singing, you know? Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: STE on February 12, 2007, 11:31:58 AM ...Brian sings the first "God only knows what I'd be with-ouuuuut", then someone else sings the second one, and Foskett does the high part (where he was flat on one note, but that's beside the point). But as the round continues, in the last few seconds, someone else is singing that second "God only knows what I'd be with-ouuuut", and it's not the same person who sang it the first time. That's why this all seems so weird. That and the drum fill before "Bruce" sings suggest that someone did some weird edit at the end there. I totally trust and believe Mark here, and like I pointed out earlier, Brian couldn't use the original song even if he wanted to due to all the legal hassles. But that IS Bruce at the end, there's no doubt about it. It's the same part he sang on the original, and nobody in Brian's band could imitate him that well. Obviously Bruce is not on the new recording, but somehow he got edited onto the last few seconds of that video, for some unknown reason. My thoughts exactly. And as Joe ponted out, there's a very noticeable sound quality difference at the end... I've posted a zip file containing the "2007 part" and the original 1966 part. It's only 128kb, so download it. And if anyone goes on saying that it isn't Bruce, I... I... I don't know. I'd be very disappointed to know that there are some people on this board who don't have ears anymore. :( Here's the link: http://rapidshare.com/files/16124720/GOK_-_1966-2007_comparison.zip.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/16124720/GOK_-_1966-2007_comparison.zip.html) It *IS* Bruce, dammit! ;D Well, after having listened to the comparison clip I have to say it does sound like the original recording. I fully believe that the new recording that will be on the cd doesn't include any of the BB version but for some reason the original recording got edited on that specific promo video. So Mark is right, of course, but I believe those who hear Bruce are correct as well. STE Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 12, 2007, 11:55:27 AM It just seems whoever edited the video has mixed in a sample of the original recording. Obviously, thanks to Mark, we know that the new recording is completely new, theres no doubt to that. The video's audio seems like its been spliced. For what reason? I dont know...perhaps we can email the person who created the video.
I just listened to the comparisons posted by Sloop John B. And in all honesty, as someone already mentioned, if you cant tell that they are both similar then you have a hearing problem. Where's Josh's million dollar ear when you need it. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 12, 2007, 12:42:08 PM Here's a better question...when does the cd come out?
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Theremin on February 12, 2007, 02:06:55 PM To stir things a little bit up: I did some fiddling with the videoclip and also with the mono cd-version of "Pet Sounds" (release from 1990).
First: the audio quality of the video clip was poor: 64 kbps, 48 kHz, stereo. I had to extract the audio from the videoclip and converted it to a WAV-file, cd-quality (44 kHz, 16 bit stereo). After that I grabbed the mono track of GOK from the mono cd. Then I downconverted this track to the same poor quality as the videotrack. After that I had to convert this setting back to audio-cd quality so I could compare them. And the result can be found here: http://www.yousendit.com/download/WTNJUGhYQzN3TGg1VEE9PQ (http://www.yousendit.com/download/WTNJUGhYQzN3TGg1VEE9PQ) The first audio you hear is from the videoclip. The second part is taken from the mono cd. Now, please tell me if there's any difference? P.S.: the part on the mono cd starts at 2'12". Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Chris Brown on February 12, 2007, 02:11:57 PM Here's a better question...when does the cd come out? At the end of this month I believe, 2/28. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 12, 2007, 02:38:57 PM Awesome.I'll be getting it for that and the new song.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 12, 2007, 04:15:40 PM I emailed the company, and heres the reply..
Quote First of all thank you very much!! for your interest in the new Brian Wilson version of God Only Knows, which is part of a CD called NEW MUSIC FROM AN OLD FRIEND, Singer Songwriter Legends Brian also has a brand new song on the CD that he co-wrote with Burt bacharach called See What Love Can Do. To be perfectly clear about this new version of God Only Knows,,,, There is absolutley NO SPLICING OR EDITING, It is a completely brand new track produced by the Illustrious Phil Ramone & Brian Wilson. It was recorded from scratch at Ocean Way Studios in LA. I was there. It is 100% completely new.... I hope that clears up the question. Thanks again for your interest. It is sincerely appreciated! Though, hes talking about the actual track, he doesnt really mention the video. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: the captain on February 12, 2007, 04:20:05 PM Who was it at the company that was allowed to attend the sessions, yet personally answers emails from random strangers? Weird.
But it does answer the question. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 12, 2007, 04:25:12 PM Who was it at the company that was allowed to attend the sessions, yet personally answers emails from random strangers? Weird. But it does answer the question. Umm, I dont see how it matters...? Why isnt he allowed to answer emails from 'random strangers'? And how is someone interested in a product that they're selling be 'random'? Re-reading his reply, it seems to me that (like Mark Linett) he's talking about the actual track that was recorded by Brian and crew. He never mentions the video or anything... Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: the captain on February 12, 2007, 04:50:05 PM If you email Sony/BMG records asking a question about an upcoming release, do you get Clive Davis responding?
Anyone is allowed to answer, obviously. I just found it amusing that someone at the sessions is also the person who responds to unknown (potential) customers' questions or complaints. A person would assume that the responder is of some importance if s/he was at the sessions. In my experience, usually people of importance within a company don't answer questions unless they are from people they know. Because, interested in the service of that company or not, that person would usually be considered a random stranger. The $12 for a CD doesn't generally earn a person a direct line to an exec, for example. That may have been over-explaining my (what I thought to be) joke, but I am trying to avoid any ellipses or multiple sarcastic questions in return. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 12, 2007, 06:06:03 PM Oh, so you're just being a dick. Ok.
Anyway, he replied again and he keeps insisting on the 'song' being completely new and recorded. No mention of the audio in the video. So really, we're back at square one. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: the captain on February 12, 2007, 06:40:38 PM Actually, in the first email, I wasn't being a dick--I was showing honest surprise and amusement. It was in the latter one that I was being a dick because your response annoyed me.
But yes, I do agree with you that the response didn't actually comment on the ad, specifically, but the track. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Aegir on February 12, 2007, 09:44:02 PM It did look like Bruce was in the studio in that video.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: yrplace on February 13, 2007, 08:06:57 AM It did look like Bruce was in the studio in that video. Gee he must have been some sort of ghost that only shows up on film because I was at oceanway for the two days and Bruce was never there. Or maybe they used a bluescreen to put him in later. As to the video vs the CD, why would you imagine that someone would splice in two seconds of the original recording for a 30 second download of the new recording? Anyway both I and I guess someone from the label have given you the correct info. Some of you may continue this odd discussion, but I've done all I can do and am out of here. Mark Linett Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: LostArt on February 13, 2007, 08:22:24 AM Thanks, Mr. Linett! Any info on Brian's new album (if there indeed is a new album)?
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: JScott on February 13, 2007, 08:34:49 AM I don't hear Bruce at all. I just hear Brian f-ing with perfection like he did when he re-recorded Let Him Run Wild. Those recordings can not be improved upon and should be left alone.
It feels like Brian wants to take his best loved song and show the world that he doesn't need the BB's to sound great. We get it Bri. Don't taint the catalog with your insecurity. Move forward. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: LostArt on February 13, 2007, 08:47:45 AM What song would you propose Brian re-record for a project like this? Or should Brian not get involved in projects like this? There are some great songwriters like Carol King and Burt Bacharach also taking part.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 13, 2007, 08:55:43 AM Normally, I'd agree about Brian re-recording songs. however, if the rest of the vocal sounds like *that*, I'd buy the disc in a heartbeat.
I really wonder how good the new song on there sounds. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: LostArt on February 13, 2007, 09:08:57 AM Well the demo that I've heard sounds pretty good, but it's just a demo, and there is some unknown singer singing the lead. I don't know if Brian would do a good job singing the lead on it or not, but the album credits list Brian as the performer (of course written by Brian and Burt).
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: JScott on February 13, 2007, 09:28:56 AM Quote What song would you propose Brian re-record for a project like this? Re-record? I can't think of one that would benefit from re-recording. GOK has one of Carl's most beautiful vocal performances ever, and stands IMHO as the definitive version of all time. I welcome all live takes of old songs that Brian can sing well, and any slightly more obscure songs, but to re-record note-for-note versions of the gems is blasphemy. Why do it? Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: LostArt on February 13, 2007, 09:43:22 AM I know what you mean. I agree that GOK '66 is not only the definitive version. It is indeed perfection. And I don't believe that any of Brian's old songs would benefit from being re-recorded. But the whole point of this particular project is for each of the writers to re-record one older song, and record one new song. What if he would have done something like The Little Girl I Once Knew instead. Or should he have declined to participate in this thing altogether?
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Dancing Bear on February 13, 2007, 09:45:02 AM What I heard sounded like a carbon copy of the 1966 track. If he really wanted to take part in this project, I'd suggest a different reading of the song, like the Wally Heider minimalistic version.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 13, 2007, 09:46:42 AM I agree with Dancing Bear, the whole note for note approach is somewhat bothersome, especially when we compare it to the original.
Luther, so in the end, you're still a dick. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: LostArt on February 13, 2007, 09:57:31 AM Well, we only heard 30...er...27 seconds of the song. Maybe he changed it up on the bridge or something??
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Exapno Mapcase on February 13, 2007, 10:02:49 AM Might've been better if he hadn't contributed at all then some of you wankers might've been satisfied. You get the feeling if BW turned up and sang GOK in your living room, note for note perfection, you'd still bitch. Don't buy the CD if you don't like it. It sounds like a reasonable product and keeps our boy busy, and with the exception of Richard Marx (he was the unfunny one, right?), he's in decent company. I mean, I'd like to think he's still got a great album in him, but I doubt it, but this is by no means a disgrace.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 13, 2007, 10:06:44 AM Quote Might've been better if he hadn't contributed at all then some of you wankers might've been satisfied. You get the feeling if BW turned up and sang GOK in your living room, note for note perfection, you'd still bitch. No kidding.It's not like this is the "new Brian Wilson album" or anything. This is just a one-off. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Dancing Bear on February 13, 2007, 10:13:13 AM Quote Might've been better if he hadn't contributed at all then some of you wankers might've been satisfied. You get the feeling if BW turned up and sang GOK in your living room, note for note perfection, you'd still bitch. No kidding.It's not like this is the "new Brian Wilson album" or anything. This is just a one-off. Hey, when the "new Brian Wilson album" is released, will it be ok to offer educated opinions? I can't wait for that one! ;D Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 13, 2007, 10:18:12 AM Well certainly! I personally cannot wait.
what would suck, though, IMHO, is if Brian just releases songs like this instead of doing a proper album. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: melissalynn on February 13, 2007, 10:23:28 AM Wow...this song has turned...controversial. Hmm...
I agree, the original version is perfection. It is interesting, however, to hear different versions of it, no matter how much they may be alike. There is always something different, somewhere. I'm not going to knock it until I've heard the entire thing. It may be slightly different...I'm willing to give it more than a shot. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Exapno Mapcase on February 13, 2007, 10:27:21 AM "educated"?
Hey, discuss GIOMH again, if you want to discuss a BW album that sucks, or be negative to a project by the Boys themselves and hammer SIP, or settle on the Lovester and have a go at LBWL or all that crap he did with Adrian Baker or Dean Torrence or his fucking awful Christmas song, go ahead, but I've already done that. This isn't a new album, it's a neat recording of one of his most famous songs for a project that required just that, by the sound of it. I don't know whether BW has it in him to play with the arrangement of his classics any more, but as the guy's done so much and is pushing 65 (and I've already got the Wally Heider GOK), I'm not particularly stressed. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Dancing Bear on February 13, 2007, 10:37:00 AM Damn, just one step back here, I screwed up with English as my second language. When I wrote "educated" I meant "polite" or "considered". I see how it sounded rude in my original post so I apologize.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 13, 2007, 10:38:13 AM Don't worry dude...I know what you meant.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Exapno Mapcase on February 13, 2007, 10:41:00 AM I did too.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 13, 2007, 11:02:52 AM Im pretty sure GOK is gonna be awesome. Though lets be honest, I think what we're all are really looking forward to is that new song. If only they wouldve put a video clip of that song instead, and save us some controversy. :lol
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Sheriff John Stone on February 13, 2007, 11:10:51 AM What I heard sounded like a carbon copy of the 1966 track. If he really wanted to take part in this project, I'd suggest a different reading of the song, like the Wally Heider minimalistic version. You're assuming Brian still has the ability (I can't think of another word to use) to do the song justice with a different arrangement. Maybe the producer of the project, Phil Ramone, was in charge of the song, and wanted the original arrangement. Then they bring in Brian to say "producer" things like "nail it" and "can I hear another one". He might even throw in a "that sounds f----ing great". Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Amy B. on February 13, 2007, 11:39:58 AM Wow, and I thought I was a pessimist. You guys would find fault with anything. If he had done a new arrangement, the response would have been, "Why change perfection?" Even if he had brought in a new singer, like Burt Bacharach did (yes, I know Carl sang the original and this is Brian, but you know what I mean), you would have said, "But Carl's was so great." This was what the project was about-- one old, one new. Whoever decided on this wanted to showcase Brian's best work for what is likely to be a new audience.
And if Brian had sounded bad, people would have said, "See? He can't sing anymore. He should just retire." Since he sounds good, (some) people are calling foul and saying it's all been manipulated, as if nearly every CD on the market isn't manipulated in some way. If nothing else, Brian's music gets more exposure to people who buy the CD for the other artists. And the original is still out there on MANY different issues and reissues of Pet Sounds. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Nathan Snyder on February 13, 2007, 11:43:36 AM I visit this site a couple of times every week or so to find up to date insider Beach Boys/Brian Wilson news. Whenever I find it, though, I then find multiple pages of posts by what seems to be manic depressives hanging on individual seconds of music comparing and arguing with the engineer of the track as well as what BW should or shouldn't be doing. I know you guys are here by choice and its my choice to even flip through the pages of posts, but.....gosh....It really gets thick was some of you guys. New cd with a BW track on it, cool. Sounds neat. Maybe I'll pick it up. End of conversation.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Lola Jane on February 13, 2007, 12:00:51 PM Surely, there isn't anything wrong with Brian wanting to redo one of his own songs...? The PS GOK version is beautiful - and you should see my 5 year old son singing it, mistakes and all :) (- even more beautiful), and that's the point I'm making. It isn't the nuts and bolts finished production that makes a song (enhances maybe -sorry Mark Linnett), it's the soul, i.e. what place in your heart it is coming from.
I can't imagine this song coming from any place in Brian's heart other than the nicest, most heartfelt one... Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: shelter on February 13, 2007, 12:22:56 PM If you don't like the idea of Brian re-recording GOK, just ignore this CD. Shouldn't be too hard.
Jeez... Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 13, 2007, 12:46:39 PM Another thing is, I dont think anyone here is really complaining about the new production. A lot of these pages are just speculation that the coda sounds exactly like the original. I look forward to hearing the new version just to see if whoever sang it really nailed Bruce's timbre...(huhuh)
Also, people who come on here to just post about how they're tired of peoples complaining...youre not really adding anything to the topic of conversation, so why not just stay out of it? This is a thread of discussion of the actual music/production not what your opinion is on others peoples feelings of the matter. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: the captain on February 13, 2007, 12:54:15 PM I have to admit, I don't care one way or the other what Brian did with GOK--I'll listen to it as a curiosity and because I'll buy the disc, but that's it. The concept of the album is for him to put on a remake, so whatever it is, fine. Real harpsichords, fake harpsichords, fine. Bruce or no Bruce, fine. Decide against GOK and do Hey Little Tomboy? Fine. The odds of me liking a new BW version of a BW classic are slim to none (and I LOVE his current band), so I'm not getting too worried about that.
The new track, though, is something I really am looking forward to. I heard the demo and remain intrigued enough that I think it will be worth buying this CD (which, I must admit, I have no interest in whatsoever otherwise...no offense to Richard Marx and whoever else...). My one real hope for that track: his band on bg vox, not the wall-of-out-of-tune Brians. That's it. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Dancing Bear on February 13, 2007, 02:02:37 PM Another thing is, I dont think anyone here is really complaining about the new production. A lot of these pages are just speculation that the coda sounds exactly like the original. I look forward to hearing the new version just to see if whoever sang it really nailed Bruce's timbre...(huhuh) Also, people who come on here to just post about how they're tired of peoples complaining...youre not really adding anything to the topic of conversation, so why not just stay out of it? This is a thread of discussion of the actual music/production not what your opinion is on others peoples feelings of the matter. Agree 100%. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Exapno Mapcase on February 13, 2007, 02:53:53 PM " Another thing is, I dont think anyone here is really complaining about the new production."
"I agree with Dancing Bear, the whole note for note approach is somewhat bothersome, especially when we compare it to the original." A big ironic :-\ Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 13, 2007, 06:23:52 PM Wheres the irony? I'm not talking about the recording specifically, I'm talking about the idea of re-recording an amazing song (my favorite song ever) over again note for note. I liked the idea of rearranging it ala the Heider sessions...that was a great remake.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: RONDEMON on February 13, 2007, 07:13:46 PM Wait...what Heider sessions remake?
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Ebb and Flow on February 13, 2007, 07:42:53 PM The one on Endless Harmony.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: bossaroo on February 13, 2007, 07:46:27 PM Quote Also, people who come on here to just post about how they're tired of peoples complaining...youre not really adding anything to the topic of conversation, so why not just stay out of it? This is a thread of discussion of the actual music/production not what your opinion is on others peoples feelings of the matter. calling people dicks isn't really adding much to the conversation either... Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 13, 2007, 07:49:27 PM Right, and by you pointing that out youre adding what to this thread?
exactly. so butt out! :police: Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jason on February 13, 2007, 08:35:44 PM calling people dicks isn't really adding much to the conversation either... You fucking DICK! Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 13, 2007, 09:10:27 PM (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:IgUVNrUdRNDF_M:http://gimps.de/wettbewerb/albums/userpics/big-dick-cheney.jpg)
:lol Okay...back on topic.. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Exapno Mapcase on February 13, 2007, 11:23:34 PM "You fodaing DICK!"
I wondered how long it would take. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: peeping tom on February 14, 2007, 04:09:21 AM Geez, looks like i'm back on the Male Ego board again.................
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Dancing Bear on February 14, 2007, 04:59:17 AM Those posts remind me of ANOTHER message board. :smokin
Now where are the "that's it I'm leaving" threads? :-D Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 14, 2007, 05:41:44 AM Thankfully, this looks like it's all in fun. I'd hope so, otherwise I'd have to get out the good ol' ban hammer...
:lol I'm so full of sh*t! Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Dan Lega on February 14, 2007, 07:01:55 AM Some of you have mentioned hearing a demo of the Brian Wilson/Burt Bacharach song. Where did you hear this, if I may ask? Love and merci, Dan Lega Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: matt-zeus on February 14, 2007, 07:19:07 AM This looks like a great opportunity to bring up Brians other remakes - Let him run wild, Keep an eye on summer, the whole IJWMFTT album and another album, can't remember which one? done a few years ago, does anyone know which one I mean ;D >:D
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Lola Jane on February 14, 2007, 08:04:57 AM Another thing is, I dont think anyone here is really complaining about the new production. A lot of these pages are just speculation that the coda sounds exactly like the original. I look forward to hearing the new version just to see if whoever sang it really nailed Bruce's timbre...(huhuh) Also, people who come on here to just post about how they're tired of peoples complaining...youre not really adding anything to the topic of conversation, so why not just stay out of it? This is a thread of discussion of the actual music/production not what your opinion is on others peoples feelings of the matter. That's a bit harsh isn't it? It doesn't encourage people to want to contribute. I don't agree with the slanging that goes back and forth from time to time, but there isn't any need for that kind of reaction. Sorry to those who are trying to discuss music, folks... Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 14, 2007, 08:31:08 AM You're just repeating what I wrote. The point of that post was to tell people that if you have nothing to add to the conversation then don't bother. What are you adding to the conversation when you say 'oh wow, all you people can do is bitch and complain...' or when someone replies with negative vibes with nothing to contribute?
There was no intention to have a 'harsh' tone in that post, its just trying to set people straight. Sorry you don't read it that way. Dan Lega, Here's the original post: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=3109.0 . If I can find the BBC clip (someone uploaded an mp3) I'll try to upload it for you and send you a pm. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Lola Jane on February 14, 2007, 08:42:19 AM OK. I understand (and agree with, to a certain extent) the point you're making. :smokin
Enough of the extraneous posts, and back to the :thewilsons (I just wanted an excuse to use that emoticon...!!!) Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Roger Ryan on February 14, 2007, 10:49:21 AM This looks like a great opportunity to bring up Brians other remakes - Let him run wild, Keep an eye on summer, the whole IJWMFTT album and another album, can't remember which one? done a few years ago, does anyone know which one I mean ;D >:D Yeah, I know the one you mean and I'll say again that "Rainbow Eyes" is a big improvement over the original (arrangement-wise at least) and "Don't Let Her Know She's An Angel" is at least as good as the "Sweet Insanity" version. "Make A Wish" is not an improvement, however, but two out of three ain't bad. What these songs demonstrate, along with IJWMFTT, is that Brian is capable of creating enjoyable new arrangements for old material. The IJWMFTT version of "Let The Wind Blow" is the best version for my money. So I would agree that in doing a remake of GOK, it might have been nice to do it a different way. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: XY on February 14, 2007, 11:13:25 AM Some of you have mentioned hearing a demo of the Brian Wilson/Burt Bacharach song. Where did you hear this, if I may ask? Love and merci, Dan Lega A demo version of "What Love Can Do", sung by a unknown studio singer, was premiered on BBC Radio 2 on November 17, 2006. Check your email in about 15 minutes.... edit: Here's the link: http://download.yousendit.com/6F7DE0FD319C2EFF Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 14, 2007, 11:26:22 AM thanks jasper!
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Theremin on February 14, 2007, 11:35:36 AM Thanks Ron D. Uh... Jasper. ;)
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: peeping tom on February 14, 2007, 01:48:29 PM A demo version of "What Love Can Do", sung by a unknown studio singer, was premiered on BBC Radio 2 on November 17, 2006. Here's the link: http://download.yousendit.com/6F7DE0FD319C2EFF [/quote] I think it was sung by Scott Bennett. Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: voxnut on February 14, 2007, 02:07:54 PM "I think it was sung by Scott Bennett."
It sounds like Bruce to me. Sorry, I couldn't resist. :p Dean Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: SloopJohnB on February 14, 2007, 11:03:17 PM "I think it was sung by Scott Bennett." It sounds like Bruce to me. Sorry, I couldn't resist. :p Dean :lol Say what you want; the "BRUCE 2007" campaign supporters will WIN! ;D Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Aegir on February 14, 2007, 11:09:44 PM gosh.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: voxnut on February 15, 2007, 07:25:24 AM Wow SJB-
I can hardly wait to hear the concession speech! I'll bet it's gonna be a good 'un! ;) Dean Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: grillo on February 23, 2007, 03:16:47 PM Gee, what a nice little discussion. . I suppose I should butt out of it all together, but since I'm a dick, I won't. Listen up; just because you (the generic you) have decided on a conspiracy involving mixing in 3 seconds of old material into a new track, despite the testimony of eye-witnesses mind you, gives you no right to decide on how others react to your idea. Since the purpose of this board is to discuss BB related topics, and that is what we are doing, you might not want to try dictating the direction those discussions go. Also, how are you furthering this discussion by simply re-stating your idea over and over again? Wouldn't it be nice if you stopped calling people names and just said 'thanks for taking the time to even consider this idea'? Hey, it's just a thought
P.S. Sorry about all the horrible run-on sentences... Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: SloopJohnB on February 23, 2007, 03:49:50 PM Hmm, I guess the whole discussion and argument was done in an humorous way, wihtout any anger, hatred or lack of respect... At least this is how I perceived it. Everyone respects other people's opinions.
FYI, the discussion went on on this topic: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=3488.0 (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=3488.0). Basically, the final sentence is "wait and hear"... :) P.S. By the way, I don't think Mark Linett eye-witnessed the making of the promotional video... Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Jonas on February 23, 2007, 04:10:58 PM I mean, I could let this go, but :lol
how others react to your idea Since the purpose of this board is to discuss BB related topics so explain to me how discussing BB related topics has anything to do with people's reactions to discussing BB related topics? :p Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: MBE on February 23, 2007, 10:58:14 PM http://www.180music.com/spotlight/media/wilson_godonly.wvx
If you want to download this Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: SloopJohnB on February 24, 2007, 12:43:50 AM With this link you can just play the video... But here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3IYGK2V0 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3IYGK2V0) you can save it on your computer ;)
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: MBE on February 24, 2007, 05:22:22 AM You can save my link tooby clicking save media as on your windows media player. Your link has less steps though
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: bossaroo on February 27, 2007, 12:11:54 PM did this bad boy get released yesterday or what? :3d
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 27, 2007, 12:28:53 PM That's the word. I didn't see it at my local Target, though.
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: grillo on February 27, 2007, 05:49:17 PM Sorry, didn't realize it was a put-on... I'm gullible. (sp?)
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: humanoidboogie on March 01, 2007, 04:57:04 PM I want to hear a remake of 'Smart Girls', complete with fake harpsichord, and a spliced-in Bruce! You can't beat Bruce, especially not when he's spliced in. Spliced in, I tell you! That's where it's at!
Title: Re: New Brian version of God only knows Post by: Ron on March 31, 2007, 09:08:33 PM Brian sounds great on this, the production is a little lovey dovey though. The staccato part sounds like somebody hammering on a casio keyboard.
Vocally though it sounds really sweet, he gets the message of the lyrics across pretty good and hearing his old soul sing that line throughout the fadeout harmony is really beautiful. |