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Title: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 31, 2007, 12:44:24 AM
BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
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THE BEACH BOYS songwriter BRIAN WILSON has reportedly asked THE BEATLES producer SIR GEORGE MARTIN to remix some of his former band's classic songs.
Martin and his son GILES recently re-worked a number of Beatles hits for Las Vegas Cirque Du Soleil stage show LOVE.
The 81-year-old claimed it would be his final job, but Wilson was impressed and wants the veteran to collaborate with him on a similar project.
A source tells British newspaper the Daily Express, "Brian attended the American premiere of Love last year and is a big fan. He now wants to convince George and Giles to remix some of his old Beach Boys songs fir a new album.
"As far as Brian's concerned it would be a dream to work with George.
"While it's unclear if George will agree, it's known he's a big admirer if Brian Wilson as a songwriter so he might well persuaded to put off his retirement one last time."



Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: matt-zeus on January 31, 2007, 01:36:50 AM
We might get to hear Mike Love singing Kokomo over Good Vibrations  :p


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Roger Ryan on January 31, 2007, 06:39:09 AM
Personally, I think "LOVE" is a masterful accomplishment (Martin's remix of "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" far surpasses the original in my mind), and I suspect "SMiLE" might have had an influence on the concept of interchanging musical snippets and extended segues.



Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: buddhahat on January 31, 2007, 11:50:41 AM
Personally, I think "LOVE" is a masterful accomplishment (Martin's remix of "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" far surpasses the original in my mind), and I suspect "SMiLE" might have had an influence on the concept of interchanging musical snippets and extended segues.

I was surprised at how good that Love CD is. Those remixes have a purpose though, i.e. they accompany the Vegas show, and as such I think it justifies the remixing. I'm not so keen on the idea of the Martins remixing Beach Boy songs. I'm sure they'd do a good job but what is the point?


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: SG7 on January 31, 2007, 12:15:18 PM
We might get to hear Mike Love singing Kokomo over Good Vibrations  :p

Yeah in hell  ;D :lol >:D


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Daniel S. on January 31, 2007, 04:15:08 PM
Does Brian want this or is this another brilliant idea from his wife and managers?

Interviewer: So, Brian why did you want to remix all of the Beach Boys songs into a mish mash hodge podge?

Brian: My wife and managers told me the world was ready for a shitty mash up of Beach Boys songs.


I can't wait to have 'Surfin' USA' mixed with 'Student Demonstration Time' and 'TM Song' with 'How I Boogalooed It'!


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Dancing Bear on January 31, 2007, 04:19:25 PM
I can't wait to have 'Surfin' USA' mixed with 'Student Demonstration Time' and 'TM Song' with 'How I Boogalooed It'!

I'd certainly ilegally download those mash-ups!  :-D


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: the captain on January 31, 2007, 04:19:39 PM
I know a lot of people liked Love, but I am really not interested in either that album or a similar Beach Boys project. Love isn't a Beatles album, but an album of someone mixing and editing Beatles music. This would be the same. And it might sell well (particularly to people into Vegas-y circuses, I guess), but it just doesn't do it for me. I'd rather have more archival releases, good stereo remixes and remasterings of Wild Honey and Smiley Smile, and new projects by Brian and his band (if he has them in him).


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Don't Back Down on January 31, 2007, 04:36:12 PM
I don't think the Beach Boys catalog needs to be done in a Love format, it's pretty much perfect as is, IMO. Perhaps if they did "mash-ups" with original SMiLE material, that might be interesting, but I'd take a SMiLE sessions box set over that anyday. I agree with Luther's last sentence.


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: runalot on January 31, 2007, 04:45:19 PM
Dumb idea Brian.

Like someone said above, LOVE was remixed because of the show.

They should mash Frank Stallone with Pet Sounds. That would be cool.


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Bill Barnyard on January 31, 2007, 04:57:50 PM

Giles (son of George) Martin mentioned Brian's interest in this idea during promotion for the Love LP a couple of months ago. But as I recall this was specifically in relation to Pet Sounds only. Martin's view was that a remix of PS in the style of Love wouldn't work.


 8)


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Jonas on January 31, 2007, 05:21:13 PM
I'd love to see a Cirque de Soliel show using Beach Boys music (over Beatles) they cover a lot more topics and theres just so much more material to work with.


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 31, 2007, 08:22:47 PM
I can't see this taking off with Martin senior. He knows the Beatles songs in a way that only he and the Fab Four know it. A perfect swan-song for him. At 81 I doubt he wants to start the same LOVE process for music he does not know or even care for.



Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: matt-zeus on January 31, 2007, 11:42:35 PM
Maybe Brian will just give him the SMiLE tapes secretly hoping that he can finish them off..


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Daniel S. on February 01, 2007, 12:04:11 AM
Maybe Brian will just give him the SMiLE tapes secretly hoping that he can finish them off..

 ;D


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: buddhahat on February 01, 2007, 03:16:52 AM
Maybe Brian will just give him the SMiLE tapes secretly hoping that he can finish them off..

I'd be up for a DJ Dangermouse SMiLE mix, similar to what he did with the Grey Album. Don't know what he'd mash it up with though - is there a hip hop album called Frown? Then you could call the mash up INDiFFeRENT!!


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: chris.metcalfe on February 01, 2007, 07:17:14 AM
I'd love to see a Cirque de Soliel show using Beach Boys music (over Beatles) they cover a lot more topics and theres just so much more material to work with.


As long as they don't call it "Love"  ;D


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Roger Ryan on February 01, 2007, 07:45:42 AM
Love isn't a Beatles album, but an album of someone mixing and editing Beatles music.

This is true, but a big part of its appeal right now is that it presents much of the Beatles music in superior sound quality to what's available on the 20-year-old CDs. The fullness of the bass on "Come Together" is just astonishing and tracks that are pretty much left alone, just remixed and remastered, like "A Day In The Life" sound phenomenal (especially the surround-sound version). Some of this impact will be mooted when the remastered Beatles albums are released later this year, but for now...

There are a few things on "LOVE" that strike me a overly gimmicky (the "Hey Bulldog" guitar solo just doesn't fit "Lady Madonna"), but much of it is a dynamic, exciting soundscape of great music. And, as I consider George Martin to be a big part of the Beatles sound, I can appreciate this album as something new from a member of the original creative team; in a way, his tasteful new string arrangement on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" actually is new Beatles music as it holds up to the best of Martin's many arrangements done in the 60s.

All the same, Martin may have been the "fifth Beatle" but he was never a "Beach Boy". If Brian wants to experiment with "mashing-up" his old productions, he should try it himself.


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: PMcC on February 01, 2007, 09:46:08 AM
===If Brian wants to experiment with "mashing-up" his old productions, he should try it himself.===

    or, perish that thought. We may have an entire album that sounds like "Smart Girls"....46 minutes of "butt" edits.....


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Daniel S. on February 01, 2007, 10:32:00 PM


All the same, Martin may have been the "fifth Beatle" but he was never a "Beach Boy". If Brian wants to experiment with "mashing-up" his old productions, he should try it himself.

I agree with you. Brian was always the producer of his own group, so if he can't do it he should probably shut the f*** up. You know, I bet if they took him off the happy pills for a couple of days, he would stop acting like a zombie and actually do something decent in the studio.


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Daniel S. on February 03, 2007, 12:33:01 PM
Some of this impact will be mooted when the remastered Beatles albums are released later this year, but for now...

What's this? When did this happen?


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: the captain on February 03, 2007, 12:42:37 PM
I know I've seen it in various announcements over the past month or so--something about possibly being an online exclusive first, then re-released in the late spring or early summer on CD.


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Don't Back Down on February 03, 2007, 01:09:25 PM
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Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: the captain on February 03, 2007, 01:17:08 PM
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Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Daniel S. on February 04, 2007, 03:27:39 PM
then re-released in the late spring or early summer on CD.

In 2007?


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: the captain on February 04, 2007, 04:46:02 PM
yes.


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: SG7 on February 04, 2007, 06:31:54 PM
What more can be done that hasn't been? That is what I am wondering. Pet Sounds has been done in my mind to death. We've seen the sessions come out, the stereo versions, mono versions, 40th anniversary editions, and who knows what else! Why not take Smile out and use that? That at least has a setting more so then Pet Sounds. Now don't get me wrong I am a HUGE supporter of Pet Sounds. I became a fan through this album and thats why I'm here. But doesn't anyone think its becoming a tad bit overrated? Its actually annoying me now. That people ONLY see that album as the best. Why not something else that hasn't been done to death? As much as I love Pet Sounds, it needs to be put to sleep. I want something new and if not new, then something that is not heard a lot but can still be appreciated.


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Jonas on February 05, 2007, 09:44:15 AM
I agree Katie. I think its time to start beating Wild Honey, Friends, and 20/20 to death. :D



Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: phirnis on February 05, 2007, 09:51:43 AM
Agreed. A few years ago there was some talk about a Surf's Up DVD-A, which ultimately got cancelled after being postponed ad infinitum. Now that would've been a move in the right direction, as I think the album itself is many more or less casual fans' favorite.


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: melissalynn on February 05, 2007, 11:21:17 AM
I also agree...as much as I LOVE Pet Sounds, and as much as it is a terrific album...it's time to move on, and do something with the REST of the albums. I'd love to see something special done to Friends, Sunflower and Surf's Up. How many times can you re-release the same album?


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Lorenschwartz on February 05, 2007, 11:29:01 AM


All the same, Martin may have been the "fifth Beatle" but he was never a "Beach Boy". If Brian wants to experiment with "mashing-up" his old productions, he should try it himself.

I agree with you. Brian was always the producer of his own group, so if he can't do it he should probably shut the foda up. You know, I bet if they took him off the happy pills for a couple of days, he would stop acting like a zombie and actually do something decent in the studio.
NO sh*t BRO...I'M WITH YOU. "LOVE" IS PHENOMINAL & HAS A GREATER POINT. I BELIEVE BRIAN'S "PEOPLE" ARE SEEING DOLLARS AND STARS AND HE SHOULD GET OFF HIS OVERLY MEDDED ASS AN DO SOMETHING UNIQUE HIS DAMN SELF!!!!!

BRIAN IS QUICKLY BECOMING DIMINISHING RETURNS WITH ME. I'M TELLIN THE TRUTH. IM A LONGTIME BB'S AND BEATLES FAN.


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Lorenschwartz on February 05, 2007, 11:38:27 AM
lets face it. if the umpteenth reisue of PS doesn't faze you, then i feel sorry for you...what royalties does he get from the millionth pressing of "sloop fucking john b"? jut a joke, but really now...brian has not done anything really original minded since "bells of madness", lets face it!! anybody think different? prove it!

george martin, pleeze stay in bed if brian's people call...cause you sure know brians really on tour or something...pretending to still be relevant to newie PS converts!!!

mike, al, bruce!!! please do Sunflower deluxe now!!!! the beach boys are the most aggravative americans in this whole world!!!


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Jonas on February 05, 2007, 11:53:54 AM
mike, al, bruce!!! please do Sunflower deluxe now!!!! the beach boys are the most aggravative americans in this whole world!!!

pun intended, I presume? :p


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on February 05, 2007, 12:01:09 PM
:lol Good catch, Joe.

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lets face it. if the umpteenth reisue of PS doesn't faze you, then i feel sorry for you...what royalties does he get from the millionth pressing of "sloop fodaing john b"? jut a joke, but really now...brian has not done anything really original minded since "bells of madness", lets face it!! anybody think different? prove it!


And even that ended with a "Shortenin Bread" style riff. Overall good song,though, and I like that as a cut-off point for originality. I would argue the point for"Walking in the Path of Life", "Christmasey" and "What I really Want for Christmas", though. But yeah, besides those, just about everything else is a remake.

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NO merda BRO...I'M WITH YOU. "LOVE" IS PHENOMINAL & HAS A GREATER POINT. I BELIEVE BRIAN'S "PEOPLE" ARE SEEING DOLLARS AND STARS AND HE SHOULD GET OFF HIS OVERLY MEDDED ASS AN DO SOMETHING UNIQUE HIS DAMN SELF!!!!!

I don't think that't Brian's doing as much as his "people". Let's see though how this 4-part project he's unveiling later this year works out before we get too worked up. He does need to let PS rest though; it's becoming much like the oldies are for Mike & Bruce. Really sad, and strange too...never foresaw PS being done to death. Who'd have ever forseen that?!


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Lorenschwartz on February 05, 2007, 01:46:59 PM
this smacks of revisionist babyboomer P.R. campaigning!1

we should contribute to a Let PetSounds Rest fund!!!

are they really trying to screw up our memories and hate what i used to adore???
how cynical & i think Brian is as much helpless to it all as he ever was with mean(green)gene!!
after all, didnt bri meet mel while he was w/ landy? maybe she picked up more than a few good vibrations, ya'meen?


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Lorenschwartz on February 05, 2007, 01:55:34 PM
this smacks of revisionist babyboomer P.R. campaigning!1

we should contribute to a Let PetSounds Rest fund!!!

are they really trying to screw up our memories and hate what i used to adore???
how cynical & i think Brian is as much helpless to it all as he ever was with mean(green)gene!!
after all, didnt bri meet mel while he was w/ landy? maybe she picked up more than a few good vibrations, ya'meen?
she seems so odd and ghostly on the IJWMFTT Doc. '95


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Aegir on February 06, 2007, 12:44:38 AM
I also agree...as much as I LOVE Pet Sounds, and as much as it is a terrific album...it's time to move on, and do something with the REST of the albums. I'd love to see something special done to Friends, Sunflower and Surf's Up. How many times can you re-release the same album?
The day a six-disc Friends boxset sells is the day I start believing in God.

*shakes fist upwards* Hear that, old man!?


Title: Re: BEACH BOY BRIAN CALLS ON SIR GEORGE MARTIN
Post by: Jonas on February 06, 2007, 09:52:24 AM
I also agree...as much as I LOVE Pet Sounds, and as much as it is a terrific album...it's time to move on, and do something with the REST of the albums. I'd love to see something special done to Friends, Sunflower and Surf's Up. How many times can you re-release the same album?
The day a six-disc Friends boxset sells is the day I start believing in God.

*shakes fist upwards* Hear that, old man!?

Friends anything set would be oh so gloooorious!