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Title: Saturday Morning in the City / Smile connection
Post by: Greg Parry on June 27, 2021, 05:43:55 AM
A few years back Wirestone posted this.

I have to say, I don't know of any band that has songs that literally go through generations before being released. I mean, look at the saga of Sandy / Sherry / Terri / She Says That She Needs Me. That's something like 33 years from first version to last. Smile Era improv / Thankful We Are to Little Children / Saturday Morning in the City 88 / Saturday Morning in the City 95 / Saturday Morning in the City 04 -- some 35 years from first to last. And even the band's last album has a Mike song that was 34 years old on it!

I remember reading about this connection in the Badman book, which does have some inaccuracies as we know. However, the SMITC demo does utilize that left hand melody style that Brian was fond of during the Smile period, and that melody is quite Smile-esque. I have always wondered as to the truth of this connection, and Wirestone's post re-piqued this question as to SMITC's origins

There is a similarity between it and H&V Part 1 Tag, but not close enough to warrant it being thought of as the same piece.

I would be very interested to know if there is a specific 'Smile era improv' that is circulated which was later worked into SMITC?
 


Title: Re: Saturday Morning in the City / Smile connection
Post by: WillJC on June 28, 2021, 01:45:50 AM
The notion comes from some of the progressions Brian tried out while recording All Day. Which is a reach, because none of that's the same music, but there you go.

There's evidence that SMITC's first incarnation (Grateful Are We) was written in 1968, a few years before Brian's other songwriting collaborations with Stephen Kalinich.


Title: Re: Saturday Morning in the City / Smile connection
Post by: Greg Parry on June 28, 2021, 03:33:13 AM
Thanks.

I obviously haven't given the All Day sessions a close enough listen, but will correct this.