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Is there potential for all 5 to get together?

https://esquarterly.com/2020/04/22/good-vibrations-coming-to-all-together-now-event-benefitting-the-los-angeles-emergency-covid-19-fund/

The “All Together Now” event will be a streaming online concert that is looking to raise funds to support families and small businesses in the Los Angeles area who have been impacted by the global pandemic.

In support of the event, Mike Love, along with David Marks, and many of The Beach Boys band members, including Christian Love, will be making an appearance. Although not confirmed, there is a pretty strong chance fans of the group will be greeted with a nice surprise or two!

Probably more along these lines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfVCMgQOMM

Given the fact that we're already told how many BBs related people are involved- Mike and David, plus a plethora of touring musicians and The Honeys, leaves a lot to be wondered.

I'm surprised Bruce isn't along for the ride so they could call themselves The Beach Boys. Not to say Mike couldn't go out as The BBs with Dave and without Bruce, but it's just interesting to see Mike go at it solo with his name. Maybe because of the facetime medium. But he hasn't done that in a few years.


Do I think all core members will reunite for this? Probably not. But man, given that we already know, it's hard to imagine exactly what the surprise would be.

Perhaps it's all listed BBs related members playing together? Could that, in itself, be the surprise?

Either way, I'm looking forward to watching. Cool to see them all involved with a positive cause.

Not that they asked for suggestions, but I'd love to see a rendition of "In My Room" with Brian, Mike, Al, David & Bruce performing together but each from his own home.  It'd be 2020 perfect.

That's a lot of Zoom windows, but it could work. The Rolling Stones performed that way last week.

If Mike hadn't played that despicable pro-hunting show, I'd say there would have been a much better chance for this to be a full reunion with all living members. Now I wouldn't bet on it. But who knows. Stranger things have happened.

THIS. :)

I agree. It's sort of seems like a no brainer. It would be a damn shame if Brian wasn't part of this, considering the song is so specifically his baby.

Oh, yeah, and please Zoom in Maureen Love on harp, too.   ;D

And if Matt Jardine is feeling better, we have a falsetto singer.

I feel like if something like that was happening, they'd be dropping some pretty big hints to get viewership up.  No one else is listed in the full list of performers. 

Well, CCR did something similar a couple of years ago for a documentary, so it's not impossible. I highly doubt it, though.






Maybe Mike will be joined by Trump jr. for "Surfin' Safari".

Since it's all virtual these days, maybe they can invite the spirits of Carl and Dennis to attend, too.

I would think if they truly did a "reunion", even a virtual one as many bands/celebrities have been doing in the past month, they'd do something a bit more high profile (both for potentially some sort of charity and also for their own sake).

Mike has to be crawling up walls at this point. As it's unlikely he'll be doing any shows for months, possibly for the rest of the year, when was the last time he spent this much time *off* the road? That first half of 1977 when the band didn't tour? Even after the death of Dennis and Carl, he was back out on the road within a few months. I think they only waited a little over two months after Dennis's death to go back out on the road, and a look at the schedule shows Mike was gigging a week after Carl's death in February 1998 under the "California Beach Band" name.

And if this does go to the end of the year or longer, would this be the longest Mike has gone without a live gig since like 1961?

Seems scammy and like nothing happened?

Unless you are in the future, that's probably because nothing has happened yet? It still 12 hours or so away until the broadcast starts.

Anyone trying to watch? 5pm and nothing yet...

https://player.cloud.wowza.com/hosted/bsjfv7y9/player.html (https://player.cloud.wowza.com/hosted/bsjfv7y9/player.html)

It started about 5:03 on their website. Pretty weird so far...

It sounds like this is several hours long. I'll check back in around 6pm...

I've popped in about every half hour for a few minutes and haven't actually heard any music yet. Usually the same guy droning on...

Time/days mean very little right now and I was about 7 adult beverages in and saw that my phone said it was Saturday. Whoops. :-D

I've been locked out of the stream, too many others trying to get in I guess.

Okay, at least there is music happening now. Watched at least about half a dozen so-so performances by what must be local amateur artists?

Pretty lackluster so far. Most artists I have not heard of; many of the spots appear to have been pre-recorded

Marilyn, Ginger, Rob & a pianist I didn't recognize (sorry) just sang California Feelin'.

The pianist is Jeff Alan Ross (Ex Badfinger etc..) plays keys with Al on his storyteller gigs

Damn. Bet that was great. Stepped away for about an hour.

Just watched about a half hour because the announcer was toying with "The Beach Boys" coming up...I know these are coming from a good place for a good cause, but these performances are rough. Good Gravy. These things are supposed to be uplifting.

Mike’s BBs just did good vibes with stamps. Nice but no reunion

Was Bruce there? In one of the small windows on the left in the ball cap? The windows on my phone were tiny, so it was hard to tell. At first I thought it could be him, then I decided maybe not. Now I'm not sure. You'd think after hours of watching BB footage I'd recognize Bruce for heaven's sakes!

Yeah, Bruce was there.

Elora on youtube has us covered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ianPM0emP3o

Sorry I wrote stamps but meant stamos on drums

Thanks for the YouTube link. I can see it's him now, on my tablet. Watching multiple windows popping in & out to the beat of GV on my cell phone was a bit disconcerting. Fun to see, although I will always miss Brian, Al, & Dave. I wish I had known about 2012, during the reunion tour. I feel like I missed out.

Even though they were lip syncing to an alternate version of Mike's UTL Good Vibrations, with a Christian/Ike lead replacing Foskett.

With that said, what a cool video! Very well done. Really cool to see all the guys at their homes singing. Christian sounded great on the lead.

Nice to see everyone healthy- particularly Mike and Bruce.

So, that leaves the question--- was that the surprise? Was John Stamos being the drummer our surprise? Seeing his name in the list, I already predicted he'd be the drumming for the Boys.

This definitely brought a smile to my face. Despite the over processed vocals, the track sounds great, and still sounds fresh surrounded by other songs. Those harmonies!

Cool to see everyone (except Cowsill, hope he's ok) involved in the video. I love the way Totten ends the song with that guitar riff.


Still watching to see what "surprise" might be in stake... Not keeping my hopes too high

Don Randi just played a keyboard medley that included BB songs & a Glen Campbell song. Nice to see him.

I too am holding out a glimmer of hope for a surprise. Stamos is fine, but I'd venture a guess that his appearing with the BB is no longer a surprise to anyone.

Thanks for posting this.

I'm still processing this exchange in the comments section--

Has anyone seen David Marks yet?

Lol, on comments section. My friend, who is 11 years older than I am (& therefore 11 years closer in age to the BBs themselves), thought Stamos was a member as well, based solely on the Full House episode she watched in the 80s. I can't fault her too much. Until 2 years ago, when I became obsessed & fell down the rabbit hole, I knew nothing of them individually either. Just some guys in striped shirts, before my time, singing cool harmonies. Now I say, sacrilege! Head hung in shame... humming a medley of Kiss Me Baby, Surf's Up, Caroline, No & Monkey's Uncle.

David Marks was on much later in the show doing "Food Fare" updated for our times, followed by Stevie Kalinich. (I finally got back in.)

Thanks for the YouTube link. I did like that M&B were introduced as "Mike Love and the Beach Boys Band" on the show.

Just for my own sanity I’m going to choose to believe that was tongue-in-cheek.  

You know, I can tolerate Stamos in almost any other setting. I  actually really liked him on the vastly underrated Scream Queens.  But as soon as I see him in a BB context I just want to punch him in the face.  He just looks like he thinks he’s the bomb and it drives me absolutely crazy.  It’s like, you are NOT a beach boy and you’re actually associated with the very crappiest parts of BB-dom. 

And with that out of my system, I think they sounded pretty good.  Christian Love looks so much like Mike here it’s incredible.

The Monkey's Uncle Jesse

Ah yes, Uncle Jesse, Aunt Becky... who would have guessed where life would lead them?

I can’t entirely fault anyone who is a Beach Boys fan but my biggest problem with Stamos is that he started to think of himself as a Beach Boy and as a spiritual replacement for Dennis, with his looks and playing the drums. But of course Dennis is irreplaceable. His indomitable Beach Boy spirit and his soulful, beautiful songs belong to only one man really: himself.

My favorite Stamos/Beach Boys moment is in the 1990 Hotel tape with Brian, Bruce and Jeff Foskett.  That's such a fun jam, and it's pretty funny when Brian pauses at various points to critique Stamos' vocals.

With that said, I can count my favorite Stamos/Beach Boys moments on one hand and have approximately four fingers to spare.

Did anyone make it through the end? And was there a surprise? I tried, but finally gave up at 1:40 am CT, when there seemed to be no end in sight. I heard Rob's song, nice. David Marks, nice. I heard the moderator hint about Wilson Philipps coming up, & waited through several more performances, but my eyes wouldn't stay open, despite my determination, fueled by waning hope.

Check out his follow-up comments. He wasn't kidding!  ;D

(There must be a fairly small subset of people who know the BBs well enough to namecheck Bruce Johnston, yet consider John Stamos an original member.)

The commenter who said Stamos is a Beach Boy is being sarcastic. He's a big fan, very knowledgeable guy.

Have to admit, I'm a little confused as to what our "surprise" was.

Mike, Bruce, Stamos and the gang doing Good Vibrations is exactly what I would have expected.

The Honeys singing California Feeling was gorgeous, but I don't think that was intended to be a surprise, as it was advertised that they'd be playing.

If there was no mention of a surprise, I'd probably be feeling great about last night- getting to see Mike's band, David Marks and The Honeys sing. But given that we were teased with a "surprise" specifically for BBs fans, I feel a little confused/underwhelmed.

But I know that's definitely a very small problem in the grand scheme of things. People are sick and dying, so I shouldn't be upset about something like this.

Although I'm sure I'm not the only one who watched hours upon hours of drek, waiting for our surprise. I have to admit, compared to a lot of the shaky performances before them, the Boys sounded great and the video was very well done.

Very reassuring to see Mike, Bruce and the guys are healthy.

I could complain about little details (lip syncing, no "surprise) but at the end of the day, we witnessed a very cool thing. The Beach Boys still spreading Good Vibrations, for a good cause, in 2020.

Haven’t watched any of the clips yet, but nice to hear that David Marks is back at it.

And I would like to believe that the commenter was joking because he’s posted a bunch of rarities.


Me too. Definitely feel like I missed out.

This guy was 100% tongue-in-cheek. Source: Am that guy.

Thought Don Randi was better than Mike Love's Beach Boys!

If it makes you feel any better, I made it to the 2012 tour after having seen Brian perform some years earlier. Now, I regret not seeing a show with Carl. There's always going to be a "I missed out" feeling

 :lol :thumbsup

David Marks

https://youtu.be/tM9p7lYapgk

I knew it!! You post way too many rarities to have meant it.  :lol


As someone who also missed out in 2012, this does help a tiny bit. At least I have a bunch of good Carl live recordings to listen to (I still listen to the butchered 2013 live album as it’s the closest for me to get to a C50 show.)

I also listen to the reunion tour CD quite a bit, especially in the car.  My 11 yr old always comments that it sounds different & notices when they're singing in a different key than the original, like on Sounds Of Summer. I always say, "That's Grandpa Brian or Grandpa Mike, etc. singing now." Then I have to point out Young Brian, Carl etc. Now, whenever she's hears any nasal voice in any BB song, she says, "Is that Mike?" (I did not teach her that, she recognized it herself, after hearing Mike exaggerate the "When" in Be True To Your School, in concert.) I enjoy it, such as it is. Since I wasn't there, I have nothing to compare it to. I also watch all the concert DVDs I can find. I can at least pretend I was there, although I've had to stop dancing around the living room, as it REALLY upsets the dog. Apparently, my dance moves are so alarming, that they disrupt the natural order of things, causing her great distress. Sigh, at least she doesn't mind my singing.

Well-played...

Can’t always tell on the interwebs. I therefore take back what I (wildsmiley) said in response to your comment. Nothing mean, I just pointed out all the official Beach Boys members (somehow neglecting David because I was typing so fast, in a hurry).

Since the live album was such a terrible job when it come sto mastering and mixing, maybe you'll like this even better:

https://www.npr.org/2012/06/13/154917913/the-beach-boys-in-concert

I honestly don't see that being much of a deal breaker here. 

Thanks Rocker! Had not seen this, which is why I love this place! Off to listen now...

i'm sure that as soon as Al and Brian found out about the trophy hunter show, they said "that's it, no more reunions with the guys in the hats".

Just listened, very nice! Thanks!

I thought it was interesting that they did Dance, Dance, Dance & Do You Wanna Dance on this one, which was not on the 2CD Live set that I have. Was there more than one version of the concert released, extended or something? Or did they change the set list often? (I defer to you experts for proper education, beyond what I have read. I am always amazed at how many of you have encyclopedic knowledge of every concert, recording, etc., So cool!) Anyway, Do You Wanna Dance caught my ear, because it's never really been my favorite song, but Brian was so strong on this one here, it sounded reminiscent of his younger voice to me.

Probably my favourite is this one from Japan.

https://m.mixcloud.com/sinlopez/the-beach-boys-2012-08-16-qvc-marine-field-chiba-japan/

The BBC Radio 2 is good to but doesn’t seem to be available online now. Fortunately I have it saved. They had a few weeks off prior to this one and it seemed to serve as a rehearsal for the main shows later that week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01m9vpk

I still live in hope that someone can piece together a fan-mix of reasonably unprocessed songs from 2012 someday.

I think as soon as things got as ugly as they did, with Mike sitting idly by while Don Jr publicly humiliated his cousin without saying a word to pushback, it polluted the waters in ways that can't be quantified.

Does that mean the two of them will never set foot in a room together again? Who knows. Probably not.

It might mean that some nice things that the band might have done together just for the hell of it won't happen, because it was insulting and raised the bitterness to a new level. Remember that surprise SiriusXM  interview they all did a couple years ago? Nobody saw that coming. There must've been some peace happening behind the scenes, or at least fighting and bitterness had subsided and they just did it for the hell of it. Which I think is a good thing. I think things like that just won't happen now as a direct result of what happened in February. Maybe, possibly another reunion of some sort could happen but it won't be some little off the cuff thing like that. It would be a whole big fiasco with all sorts of rules and negotiated fine print if it were to happen at all.

I mean, for anyone who thinks that I am completely off-base here, do you think there's a single thing that Mike could do or say which would cause chances for a future reunion to be further diminished? Once again, in February, Mike not wanting to back down added the whole vibe of "nobody tells Mike Love what to do", which means it was probably a power grab first and foremost, not wanting to back down. At any cost. When somebody who is a known egomaniac power-hungry person to deal with creates more extreme examples of that behavior trait, does that make it *more* likely to have people want to collaborate/reunite with them? My guess would be no.

Maybe I'm wrong. But Mike being an epic dick on the level that he was is not going to *help* matters. At best, his behavior might be overlooked or ignored by Brian and Melinda, just brushed off as another wacky, egocentric, narcissistic action by that guy whose actions we could have expected would be that way.

When did Trump the Lesser (which is saying something as Trump Sr. is —- oh, nevermind) publicly humiliate Brian? I must’ve missed that.

It was some tweet part promoting his book, part calling Brian a triggered Hollywood liberal.

This is (at least part of) it.  https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/481350-beach-boys-brian-wilson-asks-fans-to-boycott-concert-at-hunting

Again, if you really think that Mike performing a one-off show that was deemed controversial (especially at this stage in his career) is somehow a world-shattering deal-breaker for any future reunions, you must have some serious selective memory here if you're going to discard all the stupid crap and squabbling the band has been through in their near 60-year tenure.  Mike has been in lawsuits with both Brian and Al on separate occasions, and yet they still managed to get it together (mostly) for the 50th and still have a pretty memorable year.  Yes Mike did a concert that caused some controversy.  Yes both Al and Brian expressed their dismay over it.  Yes Mike did the show anyway.  And you know what?  The world didn't end.  You must not have a lot of faith in the world's most dysfunctional family of rock if you think one crummy concert is gonna take 'em out and ruin things for good.   ;)    

I hear what you're saying. I just think that this time around is a little bit different because of the way the media ran with the story. It was a huge thing. It amplified what an insult it was. And in those other cases, perhaps the old adage "Time heals all wounds" applied to that, but in 2020 these guys aren't getting any younger. It was literally several years that elapsed before they were ready to work together again.

We shall see. If anything, I think that there might have been a chance for a little reunion in 2020 during this pandemic which didn't happen as a result of the February BS. maybe there will still be some bigger reunion for the 60th. I don't know.

Brian and Al are very forgiving guys.   They've each been subject of multiple lawsuits by ML, and yet let bygones be bygones and did the 50th anniversary tour with him.

If Brian and Al held grudges, there wouldn't have been a single joint appearance with Mike in the last 25 years.

If everyone is healthy and concerts aren't canceled by covid19, I can see group getting back together for a mini tour.

You're welcome!
The live album actually features a lot of the songs they did play throughout the year. Generally, in the early shows the setlists were "save" with some rarities like "This whole world" thrown in, while the longer the tour went the more creative they became as Brian added "I just wasn't made for these times" "Marcella" "Heroes & villains" (the Smile version) to the list. There's a section on this board dedicated to concert reviews etc and there you'll find setlists and reports for each show they gave.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,12841.0.html


I believe there were three radio concerts the Boys did. Sirius, NPR and BBC2. It's possible that the Sirius show features a couple of performances from the NPR one or vice versa. I haven't checked but seem to remember something like that. The BBC show was just before the end of the tour and is really cool. IIRC there was also a japanese TV broadcast of a show. You can find more of that in the Pro Shot Concerts list (see my signature)

😂 Calling Brian a part of the “Hollywood liberal elite” is hilarious. It’s pretty hard to get more apolitical than him. Melinda maybe, not Brian. At most he probably sees a lot of Murry or Landy in Trump.

As for hopes of reunion: on one hand, you never really know with this band family, on the other hand, after all this, I sincerely doubt Brian and Al want anything to do with Mike and Bruce again, professionally.

During their 50th reunion Bruce Johnston made headlines by calling Barrack Obama an "asshole".  It even made top billing on the Drudge Report.    :lol  David Marks and his wife made headlines in 2018 for a domestic dispute.  These might be different situations but the point is none of this has ultimately derailed.  We'll agree to disagree, but I truly believe you're making this a bigger deal than it actually was. 




Exactly.  They've all been at each other's throats and things have been borderline hostile between them in the past.  After all, that's what they do best (at least second to making mostly great music).  That one-off concert that Mike did is hardly a blip in the radar when you look at all the dysfunction over the years.  Dare I say if you really think that concert did permanent damage to the group, you're probably influenced by your political leanings more than anything else.  Both Mike and Al have expressed interest in reuniting for their 60th.  If they end up not touring, there are more realistic factors to consider here (health, COVID-19, etc.) than one stupid concert. 


"Man, that Pet Sounds album was pretty good.  If only Mike hadn't performed in that icky concert--!"   :lol

Regardless of what fans think about it, I don't think the trophy hunting debacle would be a deciding factor in Al or Brian working or not working with Mike again. And I'm not judging Brian or Al on whatever they might think about it.

I found it all disgusting and had no problem with Brian and Al pointing out how awful doing the gig was. But I also never thought for one moment about boycotting the actual real Beach Boys in any way (meaning buying back catalog stuff, etc.).

Seriously, between what's been written/published and then the backroom stories that *aren't* mainstream public knowledge, I can say all of these guys have put aside far worse personal/interpersonal issues/events/slights/grudges in the past.

Read what Mike's mid-2000s "Smile" lawsuit said not just about Brian, but about *Al*. If Brian and Al were subsequently willing to work with Mike after that for C50, I don't think the trophy hunting thing would keep them from doing it now. A million other roadblocks exist. But I wouldn't be surprised if Mike was and is more pissed about Brian and Al signing that petition than Brian or Al were or are about Mike doing the gig!

^^^ This.  100%.

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