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Title: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 07, 2019, 05:56:36 AM
Disclaimer: What you see isn’t perfect thread title. Would be useful if smb. English-friendly advised apt title.

This is interesting topic, looks like. You listen to songs by different people & hear many interestingly structured/ lined-up songs. F.ex., I deem it really cool when song starts with, say, melody, next hi-hats start, next bass is joined etc. till everything else simultaneously. I’d like people bring songs with such steps. To begin & to give idea,

New Zealand Trading Company ''Could Be''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgHz9MM073s

Hearts and Flowers ''Please''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A9EIXUeeFI

The Kaleidoscope, U.S. band's original "Please"; distinct steps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-b_uECsdBc

Secret Service ''L. A . Goodbye''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDD5Y4VinWI

The Gladiolas - "Little Darlin'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHsSkI81Sgk

The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band ''High Coin''
https://youtu.be/MLc_T-JQQ4I?t=24

Jan & Dean "Jennie Lee"
https://youtu.be/NEPttzBCDrA?t=1

Who's next.


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: JK on March 07, 2019, 07:00:11 AM
Nice idea, RR. The title's fine--the important thing is everyone knows what you mean. ;)

Captain Beefheart's "I'm Gonna Booglarize You, Baby" is the one I thought of first because of your mention of hi-hats.

1 - Guitar I (funky rhythm)
2 - Guitar 2 (slashes)
3 - Bass joins guitar 2
4 - Hi-hat, possibly snare
5 - Vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiJVac8bCH8


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: SBonilla on March 07, 2019, 07:12:58 AM
Disclaimer: What you see isn’t perfect thread title. Would be useful if smb. English-friendly advised apt title.

This is interesting topic, looks like. You listen to songs by different people & hear many interestingly structured/ lined-up songs. F.ex., I deem it really cool when song starts with, say, melody, next hi-hats start, next bass is joined etc. till everything else simultaneously. I’d like people bring songs with such steps. To begin & to give idea...

ISAAC HAYES' skills as a composer/arranger brought this concept to a high artistic place:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eG9nduSMWc


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 07, 2019, 03:06:27 PM
2SBonilla - cool info, will check that link when youtube's fast in the evening.


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 07, 2019, 07:07:43 PM
Perhaps "Pass the Hatchet" by Roger and the Gypsies?
This was a regional hit back in the day. Good old fashioned 60s hometown funk.


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: SMiLE-addict on March 07, 2019, 07:34:08 PM
If I understand what RangeRover is saying correctly, these are usually called layered openings.

Tons of great examples. One of my favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wZ_b_uUAdQ


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: Jay on March 08, 2019, 12:40:35 AM
A lot of the records that Norman Whitfield produced by The Temptations are like that. Probably the most well known is "Papa Was A Rolling Stone".


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: JK on March 08, 2019, 01:57:07 AM
If I understand what RangeRover is saying correctly, these are usually called layered openings.

If you mean parts that enter in succession I agree. Maybe it's my cloth ears but I don't hear that in "YATSOML"...

Here's a sterling example of what I think RR means: it's the title track from Robert Fripp's 1979 solo album Exposure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzFsDQeTUT4

The successive entries are as follows:

1) Guitar tremolo
2) Spoken text (J.G. Bennett)
3) Drums
4) Guitar loops ("Frippertronics")
5) Bass and "XPOSURE" spelled out by Fripp and Eno
6) Piano
7) Rhythm guitar
6) Title screeched by Terre Roche


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: Jay on March 08, 2019, 05:05:44 AM
If I understand what RangeRover is saying correctly, these are usually called layered openings.

Tons of great examples. One of my favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wZ_b_uUAdQ
This is off topic, but I never noticed the  similarity of the beginning to "WATSOML", and then beginning of Dennis's "You And I".


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: SMiLE-addict on March 08, 2019, 03:48:24 PM
If I understand what RangeRover is saying correctly, these are usually called layered openings.

If you mean parts that enter in succession I agree. Maybe it's my cloth ears but I don't hear that in "YATSOML"...
In YATSOML, the layering includes the vocals.

1. Keyboard and drums
2. Male vocals
3. Female vocals and background singers
3. Stevie Wonder and trumpets

One of the most well done song openings ever IMO.


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: JK on March 09, 2019, 01:53:06 AM
If I understand what RangeRover is saying correctly, these are usually called layered openings.

If you mean parts that enter in succession I agree. Maybe it's my cloth ears but I don't hear that in "YATSOML"...
In YATSOML, the layering includes the vocals.

1. Keyboard and drums
2. Male vocals
3. Female vocals and background singers
3. Stevie Wonder and trumpets

One of the most well done song openings ever IMO.

Thanks, S-a. I stand corrected. I must listen to it again--properly. ;)


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 09, 2019, 05:38:15 AM
2SBonilla - cool info, will check that link when youtube's fast in the evening.
SBonilla, checked the Isaak Hayes link, it says "Not available in your country". Could you bring different link with it? Thanks in advance.

I wouldn't catch layers in "Sunshine" either if SA didn't explain - it's difficult to do in this specific song.


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: SBonilla on March 09, 2019, 06:11:12 AM
2SBonilla - cool info, will check that link when youtube's fast in the evening.
SBonilla, checked the Isaak Hayes link, it says "Not available in your country". Could you bring different link with it? Thanks in advance.

I wouldn't catch layers in "Sunshine" either if SA didn't explain - it's difficult to do in this specific song.
I do not know what link to put here. Search for "Isaac Hayes shaft" in youtube and see works in your territory.


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: Wirestone on March 09, 2019, 08:05:47 AM
Don't forget the immortal Lost Concert version of LDC!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4yqWPVjA80


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: Rocker on March 09, 2019, 08:21:28 AM
Elvis Presley - Baby let's play house


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd_zR3dOHA


1 - Vocal & Bass
2 - Accoustic guitar
3 - Electric guitar


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 09, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
I do not know what link to put here. Search for "Isaac Hayes shaft" in youtube and see works in your territory.
I will. Thanks, SBonilla. :)


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 09, 2019, 02:28:27 PM
Don't forget the immortal Lost Concert version of LDC!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4yqWPVjA80
Haha, very cool, forgot BBs did LDC like that. :3d Thanks, Wirestone. :)


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: JK on March 10, 2019, 03:26:01 AM
If I understand what RangeRover is saying correctly, these are usually called layered openings.

If you mean parts that enter in succession I agree. Maybe it's my cloth ears but I don't hear that in "YATSOML"...
In YATSOML, the layering includes the vocals.

1. Keyboard and drums
2. Male vocals
3. Female vocals and background singers
3. Stevie Wonder and trumpets

One of the most well done song openings ever IMO.

You know, I had no idea that was another singer on those first two lines! Cloth ears, you see. And I've never looked at the wiki page. It's Jim Gilstrap of "Swing Your Daddy" fame (followed up by Lani Groves).

That's a stroke of absolute genius! There's one other song I can think of right now where the first verse is sung by someone other than the principal singer. Brian May does that on his composition "Who Wants To Live Forever". It's chill's-down-the-spinesville when Freddie takes over for verse two--my goodness. :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jtpf8N5IDE


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 13, 2019, 06:49:56 PM
Should HCTN disco be here? Does it join step by step even?


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: JK on March 15, 2019, 03:31:24 PM
Should HCTN disco be here? Does it join step by step even?

In a way, it does. :)

So does this, in a way. It's "The Intro And The Outro" by The Bonzo Dog Band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DUEAG5eO6c


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on March 23, 2019, 10:13:03 AM
"Frikadelki TV" by St. Petersburg band Soup Chic (pun at "supchik", diminutive in Russian to "sup"="soup").

Slap bass joined by piano, it joined by bass, it joined by drums, it joined by banjo, it joined by acoustic guitar, it joined by tambourine, it joined by whistles, it joined by harmonica, it joined by tube, it joined by canon singing vocs.


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: JK on March 24, 2019, 05:24:43 AM
"Frikadelki TV" by St. Petersburg band Soup Chic (pun at "supchik", diminutive in Russian to "sup"="soup").

Slap bass joined by piano, it joined by bass, it joined by drums, it joined by banjo, it joined by acoustic guitar, it joined by tambourine, it joined by whistles, it joined by harmonica, it joined by tube, it joined by canon singing vocs.

That sounds like a classic example. Pity it's not on YouTube--at least I couldn't find it, even in Russian. :(


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: B.E. on May 19, 2019, 09:10:24 AM
"Draggin' The Line" - Tommy James
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrOsr00k_MI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrOsr00k_MI)

I heard this on the radio a few days ago and immediately thought of this thread. Check it out.

1 - Bass and drums
2 - Guitar and 2nd bass (?)
3 - 1st vocal and organ
4 - 2nd vocal
5 - 3rd vocal
6 - horns
7 - 2nd guitar



Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: JK on May 19, 2019, 01:57:51 PM
"Draggin' The Line" - Tommy James
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrOsr00k_MI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrOsr00k_MI)

I heard this on the radio a few days ago and immediately thought of this thread. Check it out.

1 - Bass and drums
2 - Guitar and 2nd bass (?)
3 - 1st vocal and organ
4 - 2nd vocal
5 - 3rd vocal
6 - horns
7 - 2nd guitar

Good call there, B.E.. Tommy James was responsible for some highly original singles.  ::)

I couldn't access your link so I found this new one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLfO738Ok5Y


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 19, 2019, 05:20:32 PM
It suits this thread. Thanks. Incidentally, that band never been favorite. I find their songs really abrasive, ear-attacking, singer's voice very not my cup of tea.


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 23, 2019, 03:20:57 AM
Check this cool layered pattern by Boys Town Gang, SF band: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LE3HLTR_UXw

The girl starts singing at just 1:29. Cool Frankie Valli hit redo. Original is brilliant.


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: JK on May 23, 2019, 04:03:28 AM
Check this cool layered pattern by Boys Town Gang, SF band: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LE3HLTR_UXw

The girl starts singing at just 1:29. Cool Frankie Valli hit redo. Original is brilliant.

A perfect example! I like the way this mix freaks out about two-thirds of the way through.  Thanks, RR. :)

It reminds me of accompanying a female duo back in the late 80's, early '90s with the party band I was in. They always started their act with BTG's version. So yours truly kicked off the proceedings with piano and string patches. Good times. ::)


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on June 07, 2019, 05:15:38 AM
Classic goldie The Gladiolas "Little Darlin'".


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on June 10, 2019, 04:09:07 AM
Igor Kornelyuk "Ticket To Ballet" (orig. title = catchy rhyme "Bilet Na Balet").


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on June 13, 2019, 04:46:23 PM
George Harrison's "What's Life" classifies?


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: B.E. on June 13, 2019, 05:15:22 PM
George Harrison's "What's Life" classifies?

Absolutely.


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 23, 2024, 12:35:42 PM
"Marquee Moon" by Television: https://youtu.be/jlbunmCbTBA?si=ploQ1LR-bCxpajw8
& recently, like previous year recently, really got into this jolly cool song "505" by Arctic Monkeys, MY kinda music: https://youtu.be/MrmPDUvKyLs?si=iXr55PW75WNz5zLf

Cool stepping in each tune.

Bonus: "Psycho Killer" by Talking Heads: https://youtu.be/O52jAYa4Pm8?si=NrxSZWi-G1-_3sdT


Title: Re: Songs with step joining
Post by: spgass on January 30, 2025, 03:27:06 AM
Crooked Still (a bluegrass band with a cello) has a nice version of Ain’t No Grave that builds as the instruments come in:  https://youtu.be/py_mHp1g0Bo