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Title: 50 years exactly
Post by: Peter Reum on November 28, 2016, 09:21:55 AM
Thought a few folks here would enjoy knowing that Brian held the Mrs. O'Leary's Cow (Fire) today exactly 50 years ago...


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on November 28, 2016, 10:48:21 AM
in the LOVE & MERCY movie we see this recording session and Brian's running around the musicians with lighted smoke flares

in the past it was printed that Brian had the studio janitor set afire a brazier of coals among the musicians

Brian couldn't record Mrs. O'Leary's Cow today because of smoke detectors


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: JK on November 28, 2016, 12:06:56 PM
Thought a few folks here would enjoy knowing that Brian held the Mrs. O'Leary's Cow (Fire) today exactly 50 years ago...

Thank you, sir. A spot of warmth would come in very handy right now. ;=)

Who would have thought that Brian's lone Grammy (so far) would be for a largely atonal assault on the senses...

Thank you, Brian, for this extraordinary piece of work!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31pCY1uDRzY




 


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: Scaroline No on November 28, 2016, 01:09:40 PM
Thought a few folks here would enjoy knowing that Brian held the Mrs. O'Leary's Cow (Fire) today exactly 50 years ago...

Thank you, sir. A spot of warmth would come in very handy right now. ;=)

Who would have thought that Brian's lone Grammy (so far) would be for a largely atonal assault on the senses...

Thank you, Brian, for this extraordinary piece of work!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31pCY1uDRzY



I'm sure I'm not the first person to say this, but I think of Mrs. O'Leary's Cow as Brian's heavy metal song.


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: Willy Wilson on November 28, 2016, 01:53:55 PM
Top notch!

I remember maybe 18 years back listening to 'Mrs O'Leary's Cow' on SOT16 and the wife of the time said "Is this that horrible new King Crimson stuff?" Well.


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: hideyotsuburaya on November 28, 2016, 02:00:30 PM
it was first in Malcolm Leo's 1985 movie BEACH BOYS: AN AMERICAN BAND we heard various SMiLE pieces like MrsO'LC


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: CenturyDeprived on November 28, 2016, 02:08:23 PM
What would have happened if the fire that apparently broke out (at a nearby studio?) actually broke out at the studio where Brian recorded the song? I wonder if Brian would have ever been able to have gotten over it.


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: SurfRapGrungeFiend on November 28, 2016, 03:26:41 PM
one of my top 5 beach boys favorite songs

I like the heavy metal comparison and we hear what the effects of _______ did to brian in the song, just pure madness and the way brian claimed to destroy it believing it had evil powers or however he worded it..
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Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 28, 2016, 04:15:27 PM
I don't hear heavy metal in "Mrs O'Leary's Cow". Cool track, as is "Fall Breaks".


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: thorgil on November 29, 2016, 01:11:29 AM
Thanks Peter for this reminder of Brian's (almost) atonal masterpiece. Still as intense and emotional to listen now as 50 years ago.


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: Nile on November 29, 2016, 03:00:16 AM
One question, maybe dumb one :-\ :
When were overdubs to MOCW recorded, fire crackling noises? And,
is there any true that there was another MOCW session on December 5th 1966, vocal one with BB??


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: leetwall97 on November 29, 2016, 07:27:22 PM
One question, maybe dumb one :-\ :
When were overdubs to MOCW recorded, fire crackling noises? And,
is there any true that there was another MOCW session on December 5th 1966, vocal one with BB??

Only appropriate that you ask a dumb question about dumb angel!

And yes that IS correct! Vocals were originally recorded by the Beach Boys back when the track was first recorded. On December 5th, further vocals for Fire as well as Surf's Up were recorded!

I wouldn't find it surprising if Mrs. O'Leary's Cow had lyrics. Once you get all the background vocals onto the track, it all-of-a-sudden contains a stable structure for melody which amazes me and only proves Brian's genius.

Then again, maybe Brian just had a small but important new vocal idea. Like the Yodeling overdubs on Wonderful in December. Basically from December-January the tracks for the Album were either finished or being touched up.


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: Nile on November 30, 2016, 05:38:45 AM
One question, maybe dumb one :-\ :
When were overdubs to MOCW recorded, fire crackling noises? And,
is there any true that there was another MOCW session on December 5th 1966, vocal one with BB??

Only appropriate that you ask a dumb question about dumb angel!

And yes that IS correct! Vocals were originally recorded by the Beach Boys back when the track was first recorded. On December 5th, further vocals for Fire as well as Surf's Up were recorded!

I wouldn't find it surprising if Mrs. O'Leary's Cow had lyrics. Once you get all the background vocals onto the track, it all-of-a-sudden contains a stable structure for melody which amazes me and only proves Brian's genius.

Then again, maybe Brian just had a small but important new vocal idea. Like the Yodeling overdubs on Wonderful in December. Basically from December-January the tracks for the Album were either finished or being touched up.

I remembered this from Badman's book, I think.
Some guys in this board questioned his sessiongraphy so I'm not sure did the session really happened! ???


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: jiggy22 on November 30, 2016, 06:30:27 AM
I'd be more trusting of AGD's sessionography, and no December 5th session is logged on his site. I also doubt that Brian would be willing to work even further on the track after the whole building-burning fiasco. I also can't imagine the track having anything other than just wordless vocals. Any sung lyrics would've just muddied up the already busy arrangement.


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: pixletwin on November 30, 2016, 06:33:37 AM
I don't hear heavy metal in "Mrs O'Leary's Cow"..

Same here. I hear Stravinsky.


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: Scaroline No on November 30, 2016, 06:43:59 AM
I don't hear heavy metal in "Mrs O'Leary's Cow"..

Same here. I hear Stravinsky.

I'm not familiar with Stravinsky (though I will go and have a listen now...) -- but for me, it's that dirty, angry, smokey "burning-hot-coals" guitar riff and that heavy drum that remind me of heavy metal music.


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: JK on November 30, 2016, 07:18:07 AM
I don't hear heavy metal in "Mrs O'Leary's Cow"..

Same here. I hear Stravinsky.

Interesting. I myself hear more Debussy or Ravel in the whole-tone scale of the vocals.

I'm also reminded (rightly or wrongly) of the opening bars of Paul Dukas' Sorcerer's Apprentice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wneUNq_Ndbw   


Title: Re: 50 years exactly
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on November 30, 2016, 07:22:51 AM
I myself hear more Debussy or Ravel in the whole-tone scale of the vocals.
Good catch.