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Title: Updates at bellagio
Post by: Ian on May 17, 2016, 09:53:23 AM
Just thought I'd mention that our absent friend AGD and I continue to update the gigs/sessions section of bellagio 10452 website hosted by ESQ. As more concerts and session info is found we add it. So if you copied info about 1974 three years ago it's possible a lot has been changed. A number of recent changes are thanks to research by Bgaswoodie, Jim Murphy, C-Man and Julio Pelayo.  For example bgas spotted a ticket stub for sale for an October 29 1975 show at Illinois state university in Normal Illinois that I was unaware of. He also spotted a ticket for the taping of the mini concert seen in the 1980 documentary about keeping the summer alive so we now know that show was taped at KTTV on January 30 1980.


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: JK on May 17, 2016, 10:43:33 AM
Thanks for the heads up, Ian. I'd be lost without that site.

Can't beat bgas. And all the best to Andrew. 


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: Rocker on May 17, 2016, 11:03:17 AM
Thanks Ian! Updated the Pro Shot Concerts list with the KTTV info!


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: Jim Murphy on May 17, 2016, 02:00:25 PM
I consulted bellagio nearly every day while I was researching and writing Becoming the Beach Boys, 1961-1963

It is, without question, the finest resource in the world for anyone interested in learning more about the band and the breadth of their incredible career. 

That Ian and Andrew continue to fine-tune and improve it, is truly a gift -- to everyone who loves the band, and to the Beach Boys and their unparalleled musical legacy.   


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: Cool Cool Water on May 17, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
Great to read it's being updated.

Such a great prolific website which would be a shame to lose. 


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: feelsflow on May 17, 2016, 02:36:56 PM
Just thought I'd mention that our absent friend AGD and I continue to update the gigs/sessions section of bellagio 10452 website hosted by ESQ. As more concerts and session info is found we add it. So if you copied info about 1974 three years ago it's possible a lot has been changed. A number of recent changes are thanks to research by Bgaswoodie, Jim Murphy, C-Man and Julio Pelayo.  For example bgas spotted a ticket stub for sale for an October 29 1975 show at Illinois state university in Normal Illinois that I was unaware of. He also spotted a ticket for the taping of the mini concert seen in the 1980 documentary about keeping the summer alive so we now know that show was taped at KTTV on January 30 1980.

Thank You, Ian.  We will continue to read and watch for updates.

bgas, get your butt back over here!

And I echo john k's words, give our best to Andrew.


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: HeyJude on May 17, 2016, 02:41:38 PM
One small change to the old tour dates pages: I've mentioned this a few times in passing in BW tour threads, but admittedly haven't e-mailed anyone. Two BW tour dates on the Bellagio site from September 2000 can be corrected. They currently read:

BW 19 - Mountain Winery, Saratoga CA [no orchestra]
BW 20 - Villa Montalvo Winery Saratoga CA [no orchestra]

In actuality, the show on the 19th was scheduled for the Garden Theatre at Villa Montalvo, and the show on the 20th was scheduled for The Mountain Winery. City and state are correct. Additionally, the show on the 19th was canceled months ahead of time, so only the show at The Mountain Winery in Saratoga, CA on 9/20 actually took place. And it did indeed not feature an orchestra.


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: HeyJude on May 17, 2016, 02:49:48 PM
Another question on the Bellagio timeline, this time from 1999: It mentions October 1 as a Brian overdub session for "You're Still a Mystery" and "Soul Searchin'." For the former, this is the lead used on the MIC set. (Not sure about "Soul Searchin'"; did they use '99 Brian vocals on GIOMH in 2004?). The studio listed is Your Place or Mine, Mark Linett's studio. But I recall reading that Linett wasn't aware of the Brian lead vocal overdub until compiling the MIC set. Are we sure the session was at Linett's studio? I suppose it could have been done without Linett present. Just a little curiosity.


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: Ian on May 17, 2016, 04:18:29 PM
Thanks for the correction and I'll ask AGD about your question.


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: wantsomecorn on May 17, 2016, 04:55:54 PM
Just a small mistake I noticed:

On the gigs page for 1984, it lists a gig as

July 6 - Riverside-Brookfield High School Stadium, Chicago IL [w/Three Dog Night]

The high school is actually in Brookfield, IL, not Chicago. It's still really cool to see they played a gig in my hometown, though!

And thank you both for keeping the page up to date. It's one of the best resources made by fans of any band ever, period.


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: Ian on May 17, 2016, 05:00:01 PM
A lot of small errors like that crop up because if you're not from an area you may be unaware of exact locations.  For example the bbs played at pine knob many many times. This was the venue to see shows for folks in Detroit in the 70s and 80s but of course it's actually in nearby clarkston Michigan.


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: jeffh on May 17, 2016, 06:55:28 PM
So, where is Andrew ? What happened ?


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on May 17, 2016, 06:57:40 PM
So, where is Andrew ? What happened ?

Banned a month ago, go to the sandbox for more


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: Ian on May 18, 2016, 03:20:11 AM
As far as the recording session info we stand by our info


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: Cool Cool Water on May 18, 2016, 09:44:00 AM
So, where is Andrew ? What happened ?


He received a lifetime ban. As BachelorsDegreeInBullets said, visit the sandbox for more information.


Title: Re: Updates at bellagio
Post by: HeyJude on May 18, 2016, 10:17:09 AM
As far as the recording session info we stand by our info

Oh, I definitely wasn't questioning it. I was more curious to know if maybe someone other than Linett engineered the session, since he apparently wasn't aware of it until circa 2012, or of its possible someone else could have engineered a session at his studio. Who knows, maybe he had just sort of forgotten about the overdub session in the intervening 13 or so years, or had always known about it.