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Does anyone know if this will be acknowledged/celebrated by the Beach Boys?

Backing tracks??? Please?! I would do a number of ethically questionable things for an opportunity to listen to those sweet sweet synth tones.

And dare I ask....any remote chance of a Love You tour from Brian?!?!?!  :3d :3d :3d

I think it's almost certainly out of the question - but I'd kill for a clean version of Lazy Lizzie and a few other tracks from the sessions. It's such a precious, underrated gem.

I too sadly don't think this will happen. Then again, The Who toured Quadrophenia, Yes is touring selections from Tales From Topographic Oceans this year (along with another album I can't remember off the top of my head), and The Rolling Stones did that Sticky Fingers tour last year. None of those are the bands' most popular albums, so a Love You tour wouldn't be *impossible*, but Brian would probably tour albums like Sunflower, Friends, or some solo selections before Love You. As for a release, you never know! The Party set last year was kind of unexpected, at least to me. I don't think it was entirely due to that 50-year copyright thing, either, but more to do with the anniversary and it being a cool type of project to do.

Think about an ultra-limited edition of a late-70s Beach Boys box set with a hand-woven cross-stitched replica of the Love You album cover; 15 Big Ones, Group Therapy, Love You, New Album, Adult Child, MIU, and Merry Christmas From The Beach Boys LPs; CDs of backing tracks and vocals-only tracks; an entire "early mix" alternate 15 Big Ones; the lyrical versions of "We Gotta Groove" and "Short Skirts" and other Brother Rarities tracks; the debut of the apparently awful late-70s mix of "Child of Winter;" and who knows what else! What a treat that would be. Even if it only spanned 15 Big Ones to Love You, I'd be fine with it. They definitely have the material and manpower to do such a thing, and it's really only commercial viability in my mind that would limit such a project.

I think the difference between Love You and the albums you mentioned from The Who, Yes, and The Rolling Stones is that those LPs are still considered to be classics outside of those bands' circles of fans.  I just saw Quadrophenia listed in the top ten of a Top 100 albums of the 70s list in Classic Rock Magazine.   

Whereas Love You seems to be a cult favorite that divides even the most loyal BB/BW fans. 

It's kinda like Pink Floyd with The Final Cut.  The Final Cut is highly thought of by many Floyd / Roger Waters fans, but when Roger took Floyd albums on the road, he chose more universal crowd pleasers Dark Side of the Moon and The Wall.

I disagree that those other albums are more likely...Brian loves Love You and his involvement in it was greater than those others you mentioned. I don't think it will happen though.

I will continue to pray for backing tracks however. It seems more reasonable.

Very true.  I can't quite imagine him feeling the need to do an album that Bruce has called his favourite as it was such a group effort.  Friends would be a bit more plausible.

Next year is also the anniversary of SMiLE.  If Brian is still touring maybe he'll do both or something along the 2002 Summer UK set lists where the first set was mini SMiLE and Love You!

In a not-too-unrecent online Q&A session, Brian (or someone representing him!) said that a Love You tour is *not* out of the question.

Good point, good point. I have heard great praise about the albums, and now that I think about it, I remember seeing a Quadrophenia documentary on TV a few years back.
I'd personally love to see Atom Heart Mother performed live, but Waters and Gilmour dislike the album, and Waters had some things to say about the sheer never-going-to-happen-ness of touring that album. At least Brian likes Love You.


I see where you're both coming from. I suppose I was going off of commercial viability, although Friends and Sunflower both did worse than Love You on the charts, so that line of thinking is flawed. I do remember Brian stating at one time Friends being his favorite of their albums, as well as Love You (and 15 Big Ones and a few others!!). Sunflower has not had such a mention to my recollection. The thought of a Smile and Love You co-billing in 2017 is super tantalizing. That would be such a showcase for Brian's eccentric side, and his band could make songs like "Let Us Go On This Way" and "Roller Skating Child" rock out fantastically! Just imagine Brian belting "Let Us Go On;" it'd be great!!


Now that you mention that, I do remember that answer from Brian being discussed here. My hopes have significantly risen for some sort of Love You-related event. The louder we cheer for "Honkin' Down the Highway" at his concerts this year, the greater our message will be!

SMiLE/love you tour! :3d

I dig “Love You”, but I don’t need to hear “Mona” or “Love is a Woman” live. If they tour next year, a mini set of “Love You” stuff would be cool. I don’t see them finding enough marketability in doing the entire “Love You” album for an entire tour. Maybe they could do like they did with PS in 2013 and spring the entire "Love You" album at one or a few random gigs or something.

Also worth keeping in mind is that there has already been talk of booking more “Pet Sounds” shows into next year, covering markets that weren’t hit (e.g. most of non-UK Europe) and markets where they could have added additional dates but had no room left in the schedule.

The one thing that makes a “Love You” tour surprisingly more likely than a “Sunflower” tour (or name some other fan favorite) is that “Love You” is very Brian-centric. Brian *rarely* does non-covers that he didn’t write or co-write. Even Al’s and Blondie’s songs are *usually* Brian-penned or co-penned (there are a few exceptions of course). So I would tend to doubt we’ll ever see Brian doing “Tears in the Morning” in concert, even with a backing guy singing it. “Love You” is perhaps the only post-Smile (or “Smiley Smile”) album Brian could do (outside of solo albums of course) that would be so Brian-centric.

I've said this before, but I'll say it again.  Imagine "Love You" performed or even re-recorded without all the dated synths.  Instead bring in Brian's band and a more complete production.  If I remember correctly, even Carl Wilson once remarked that the album was "unfinished" or something along those lines.

Yep, the Quadrophenia doc was done around the time The Who toured it again in 2012.  In recent years, I'd say that album rivals Tommy in popularity, and there have been more Quadrophenia than Tommy tracks in most of the Who Hit 50 setlists. 

Waters or Gilmour will never do AHM because it's not a cohesive project.  Basically, you have two long songs (the amazing title track and the time waster Alan's Pyschadelic Breakfast), and in the middle one track each from Roger, Rick, and David respectively.  Roger and David have performed their songs on solo tours (If and Fat Old Sun). 

Roger is very fond of The Final Cut, and except for The Wall tour, always did a song or two from it in concert. 

I agree with the idea of a mini-Love You set as part of a larger set list:

Let Us Go On This Way
Roller Skating Child
Honkin' Down the Highway
The Night Was So Young
I'll Bet He's Nice

Totally, that seems reasonable. Having the entirety of Love You *and* Smile and attempting to throw in some greatest hits would be a lengthy concert. I do quite like "Mona," though.


I wasn't aware! I suppose it wouldn't be fair to the rest of the world to skip over them for this tour and then go ahead with another tour that they can't go to. Pet Sounds is a much more lucrative album to tour with, and they've bled beyond year anniversaries for anniversary celebrations anyway (such as the 90s Pet Sounds boxset), so that would make a lot of sense for them to do.


You have a solid point. David breaking out "Little Bird" in 2013 was a pretty cool surprise, but even then, Brian had a hand in the track's creation (some say a very significant hand). Something I very well think could happen is a Mike and Bruce tour of Sunflower, or heavy integration of those songs into their setlist at least. Especially with the three Bruce-sung songs and the singers of their band being suited for basically all of those songs. It could happen!


I think it'd be just as cool if they purposefully broke out the dated synth sounds for a performance. That being said, it would be interesting and probably more plausible to hear it with Brian's current band configuration. I wonder what instruments would take the parts of all the synths bouncing around in "I'll Bet He's Nice."


It's cool that Quadrophenia is getting recognition; it's a great album! I think I like Tommy a bit more, but it's very played out in the concert space.

It definitely isn't cohesive. That being said, I'm personally a huge fan of "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast" (my three favorites are the title track, that, and "Summer of 68"). The concept is very funny to me, and the fact that it was recorded at Nick's house with a roadie delivering the monologue is cool to me. There's something about the way that Alan describes his breakfast journey and the way they edited it up (the multiple striking matches across the stereoscape, for example) that gets me. Plus the overall audacity of putting an avant-garde piece about breakfast on a *Pink Floyd* album in general; considering how the cow on the cover was supposed to be a counter statement to claims that they were space rock, I would extend that rebellion against their image to the track.  The musical accompaniment is nice, too. Then again, I still think "'Cassius' Love vs 'Sonny' Wilson" is funny after hearing it many times, so that speaks to how easily I can be satisfied by a track with humor elements.

I need to listen to The Final Cut sometime; I haven't gotten around to it yet.


I like the looks of that list! However, of any time and place in his entire life (besides QVC, of course), a Love You tour would be the ultimate venue for a "Ding Dang" jam! Blondie or David or Al or whoever would be playing the guitar could be given a chance to shine, and the groove that the band can get in in general would be wonderfully showcased. Seeing as how he's reused "Ding Dang"/"Shortnin' Bread" so much over his career, he would definitely enjoy performing it.

I want a smile tour as well in the near future!

Me too, for sure! I do have a little apprehension after hearing that Brian doesn't like performing "Surf's Up" due to the complicated lyrics, although perhaps the lead could be handed to Al (who sings the tag lyrics anyway)? Now here's an interesting idea: If they were to only do a mini-set of Smile rather than the full album (for whatever reason), what songs do you think they'd bust out? I would assume they would stick to BWPS-type arrangements for songs that weren't first released by The Beach Boys ("Holidays," "Blue Hawaii," etc).

I saw BW sing Surf's up twice last year and it brought me to tears. He can belt if he wants to! Al's take would be interesting as well.

You're very lucky to have seen that! I remember reading that he had broke it out just before I went and saw him last November, but he sadly didn't perform it at the venue I was at (it was a casino, so I can understand why not; different fan bases and all that). It's at the top of my wish list of songs I want to see him perform (though if we're being honest, a "Ding Dang" jam would probably be number two!!!).

I want a 20 minute ding dang encore jam! ;D

Interspersed with numerous "Let's Go, Mother F'ers!"  :lol

Let's be real: A "Ding Dang Through The Years" tour simply must happen in 2017. They'll start off with "I'm the Pied Piper" and flow into "Ding Dang," "Rollin' Up To Heaven," "Shortnin Bread," "Drip Drop," "Shortnin Bread" again, "Too Much Sugar," probably "Shortnin Bread" again, "Proud Mary," and finish off with "Goin' Home." The more intimate venues could add such choice rarities as "Bells of Madness" and "Clangin." Each piece extended so as to make the performance fit a standard concert length. It'd give Jerry Lee Lewis's "Live at the Starr Club" a run for it's money!

I have a feeling Brian would be game for that!!!!


No way! I love the moog!! Unlike the 80s stuff, Brian had complete control in deciding which synths to use...it was entirely his vision!

I think a full orchestra/band version of these songs would sound more like No Pier Pressure...which I like but is not in the same creative production realm as Love You!!!

I really hope Bruce Johnston isn't reading this, he would turn the idea into a 12" Disco single  :lol

M&B need to do the full HCTN disco song! >:D

The girlfriend pointed out recently to me that "Lazy Lizzie" might actually be even creepier than "Hey Little Tomboy." Nobody but BB archivists and scholarly fans need to hear those songs anymore.  :lol

It's a badge of honor! :smokin

I want him to teach Al the vocal line for Do You Like Worms we heard on the Smile box with all the lyrics (Having returned / Once upon / Waving etc.) and do Heroes with Great Shape and Barnyard. Actually, a final Smile tour with Al and the songs presented as separate tracks would be great. As it is, I'm seriously looking forward to Colston Hall in just over a week.

Last summer at the show I went to, before they did "Surf's Up" Brian said he didn't care much for the song. Al said, "Brian, it's from Smile! It's one of the greatest pieces of music ever written!" And I wiish I could put into words how Brian sang it...he definitely had a very eye-roll expression on his face during the song....I guess the way he sang the song kind of exuded a "Yeah, whatever" attitude...

I think when Brian says "it's not a very good song" or things along those lines, it might sometimes be his way of saying "I don't want to do this song right now."

Brian said a very similar thing at a gig he did with Al that I saw back in 2007, prefacing "Sail on Sailor" with something like "this isn't a very good song, but we're gonna do it anyway", and Al did the same thing, trying to convince Brian that it was in fact actually a great song.

The dropping last year of "Surf's Up" and "Busy Doin' Nothin'" (last performed in September in San Francisco) were possibly explained by one of the backing band members who said Brian finds them too verbose to sing. I wouldn't mind it if they just gave "Surf's Up" to Matt to sing.

I also wonder if sometimes Brian still does attach bad or acrimonious memories with certain songs, even if he doesn't actually dislike the song musically. I remember all the way back around 2000 or so, Brian did a Yahoo chat and I asked him if he would ever do "Sail on Sailor" live, and he *emphatically* stated no.

Given Al & Matt are hangin' with B-Dub, maybe they should do a "Love MIU" tour - with Matt doing a 40 years on sequel to Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree.

C'mon, the logical thing to follow up the PS tour is a SS/WH tour. Blondie's in the band, right? Who sings Wild Honey better than Blondie? Deborah Harry? I can't see much interest in a LY tour, half the BW fans love it, the rest hate it. How about a combo 15BO/BBLY tour? Maybe throw in a little MIU? I'm sure Mike and Bruce will tour SIP someday.

Honestly, if they did either of those things, they would be crazy additions to their live set! I think it'd be hilarious for them to break something like that out. What if there were to be some sort of crazed disco revival next year for the 40th anniversary of Saturday Night Fever? Mike and Bruce could whip out some disco no problem.


I think that would be a fantastic idea! Al's a fantastic vocalist, and to use him on something like that would be so cool. Even if they did a Spotify session of the album with the live band in the manner you suggest, that would be cool for the archives. The fan mixers would go crazy with the new Al lead. Maybe, if someone had the money, they could just contract Al to sing those lines for them? His voice is still similar enough to the 60s that it wouldn't feel out of place couched in the original backing tracks.


A late 70s song package would be sweet too, I agree. Breaking out songs like "Palisades Park," "Just Once in My Life," "Wontcha Come Out Tonight," and "Pitter Patter" would be alright in my book, and they could do them well. And, now that the cat has been let out of the bag to the public about how excellent their version of "Rock and Roll Music" was (or could've been), they could totally showcase that too. Maybe the band could start arguing onstage, leading into Al's famous "Phew! It's time for me to meditate."
I think a Smiley Smile and Wild Honey tour would be excellent too. Blondie, with or without Deborah (haha), does indeed do a fantastic rendition of the latter's titular song.

Some ideas for Mike & Bruce...

The Wonderful Tour
The Vegetables Tour
The Gettin' Hungry Tour


The Aren't You Glad Tour
The Wild Honey Tour


The Roller Skating Child Tour
The Night Was So Young Tour

That would turn it from an album that is half loved and half hated by the fanbase into an album that's hated by the entire fanbase. The songs just wouldn't work with a mid-60's style backing band. The lyrics are childlike and silly, and the synths add to that feeling. Adding Brian's backing band would make the ridiculous lyrics stick out like a sore thumb.

 :lol

But if they really are going to do LY live, then I think all of the band members should get as strung out, stoned, loaded, as the the guys were when it was recorded - to insure that they faithfully replicate those off-key, gravelly vocals.

Smells like heaven.

Good, then maybe they'll be able to put the whole thing to bed then....

It would be awesome if something was done in light of the 40th regarding Love You. Maybe a box set, new remastered tracks and even a tour (highly doubtful mind). 

I would substitute fan base for hardcore fan base. The average BB fan that was in the audience at say a C50 venue has no idea the album Love You even exists. It pretty much went straight to the discount bin when it was released. Performing this entire album live would not delight too many people so it won't happen.

Ok so people not really feeling the tour (i disagree) but understandable but how about BACKING TRACKS?!?!

The problem with a Love You Tour is marketability.  Bands/artists tend to tour on albums regarded as classics, not albums that are cult favorites that tend to divide the most loyal members of the fanbase.  

A deluxe reissue?  More realistic.  

Maybe if any of these suggestions come to pass the live music industry as a whole will realize this "playing whole albums in order" thing has got way out of hand and the craze will finally end.

Though I'm not one to speak: I reckon for our album launch show next week we're just gonna play our new album in order. Saves on valuable thinking time.

I don't think the album tours have gotten out of hand.  I think they offer fans a chance to see classic albums performed from start to finish.  Plus, it offers a rare chance to hear the album tracks from said albums in a live setting. 

The only possible negative I see is this it makes a portion of the set predictable. 

No, i'm a fan of the tours! :)

I don't get why people rave over the glorifed demo that is Love You; if I want to hear latter day BW at his best, I put on BW88. A tour for that album I would love!

Yeah, I actually don't mind it. Your possible negative is more of an actual negative for me though.

Another plus might be it forces a band to confront the fact that maybe their fans have a point in preferring "the earlier stuff". Having played the hits so much they don't mean anything any more, it might be a shock to play an old album track with fresh ears and think, "oh, we really were better back then". And then try harder to do better on the next album instead of moaning that the fans "won't move on".  However, I still prefer more wide-ranging setlists that contain a mix of hits and surprise deep cuts, something for everyone.


The songs are better on Love You. Try playing them on the piano, or instrument of your choice.
In fact, by maligning the production as you are doing here, you are actually strengthening the case for a live or re-recorded Love You.

My problem with oldsters doin' the "play an album" deal, is that they shouldn't wait so long to do it.  It is a good idea for someone like you, to promote the album, doin' so.  And good luck, friend.  The new stuff sounds great.  Self-promote, the new easy media showcase works.  Youtube, bandcamp, SoundCloud - I am spending lots of time there.  I think working musicians like My Brother Woody are as great as the artists selling millions of records.  Throw in a link to the album on the main board.  They won't move this thread to the General Music Section.  Try It.  I was saying the same thing to Zach last night.  There are so many great artists waiting to be found right here at Smiley... If only folks would go over and check them out.  Something I have promoted since I got here.

Saying that, I snapped up all of the Todd Rundgren DVD/Cd releases, he did three, so far.  His voice has held up fairly well, but nothing like if he had done them in even the 90's.  He is now playing sets full of tracks he either never, or rarely, performed since the early 70's, lots of them.  When I got the chance to speak with Todd in the 80's and 90's, I always brought up, "Why won't you play the old Nazz songs, or the two Runt albums?"  He wanted to push the new stuff, which is fine music too.  He only played one now and then, sometimes a deep cut like "Drunken Blue Rooster" - alone at a grand piano.  He would play many of the tracks from the Todd album, even "Lord Chancellor's Nightmare Song" back in the late 70's, I think he must have loved the album, and still does, he did all of it in 2010.  Now that my concert days are pretty much over, he does it all the time.  Blows me away when he pulls up something like "Kiddie Boy."  He is doin' it, not for the old fans as much as for the new fans.  Those old records are still selling well, and need to be promoted.  So much about music is old catalogue.  Way it is.  Most of our old favorites are not going to learn from, or create something better than the past.  As great as I found Brian's new album to be - I don't see much agreement here at Smiley.  And that's the best shot he has at getting compliments.  My dream would be for Brian to get together with Van Dyke to play Orange Crate Art, and put it out on film/Blu-ray.  They never did much to promote that album in it's day.  Again, if only they had done it in the mid-90's.  But it is not too late.  Brian is still a great singer live.  I'm sure Van Dyke could still sit at a piano and do it one more time.  If he could not play the piano, he could let the young guys do it, with him and Brian arranging and singing.  Parks live versions of those songs, the few he has done, are fantastic.  They could bring in Danny Hutton, Flo and Eddie, and a few others from the old gang and fans - do it like the old Black and White Night.  Who wouldn't jump at a chance to share a stage with them.

I have a bit more trouble when, say Cheap Trick, do Magical Mystery Tour - but they did quite a few of their own albums before that.  Like with Brian, a crack band helps.  Others fill in gaps, and away we go.  btw, I think Love You is way better than BW88.  I think Adult/Child is better.  LA (Light Album) is better.  I love it much more than most folks around here.  Opinions, opinions.  And when you say that Blondie sings/plays "Wild Honey" better than anyone ever, please note, not better than Carl.  I have seen Blondie do it, in 1973.

I really don't see Brian focusing on the 70's music in concert.  Not a whole album.  Would love to hear "Solar System," or some of the ones he sang, maybe not "Love is a Woman" tho.  I'm not in agreement as much with replacing Carl, Dennis, and Mike.  Hey, we got "Honkin' Down the Highway" - a big big favorite from Al's small bunch of tunes.  I would like him to tackle "At My Window" next, he would sound good.  Bruce doesn't seem to want to give it a try.  I am surprised Brian plays so many Beach Boys 60's cuts.  Especially if he is reading all the suggestions from us.  

Feels,

Pink Floyd used to play their albums in their entirety when they were new. 

In fact, they'd been playing Dark Side for a full year before it was even released on record. 

They continued to play Dark Side from 1972-75, and revived it in 1994.  So, I think they were the first band to play a classic album for nostalgia.

They also played Wish You Were Here, Animals (not in the same song order), and The Wall when they were released.

When I saw Iron Maiden in 2006, they played their entire new album, A Matter of Life and Death album.  A bold choice. 

I'm with you on bands doing other peoples' albums.  If I'm paying to see Cheap Trick, I don't want to hear them do a Beatles record in concert.

So true. I've studied many a brian songs and the love you compositions are complex and beautiful. More so than BW88 (which I also like)

KDS,  That makes sense, since they were mostly concept albums.  I had many chances, but never went to a Pink Floyd show.  Those arena shows were too big. I never saw a Stones show for that very reason, I regret that more now.  There were just so many choices.  So David Crosby 25+ shows, many others zero.  Of course the Beach Boys always got my bucks, and I would travel to see them.  I had a group of artists, like Poco, Fleetwood Mac, Laura Nyro, Paul and Artie, Chris Hillman, Boz Scaggs, The Kinks, Costello, Neil Young, some others, that I would make time to see over and over, even if it was on a week night - work next day.  I saw some artists only once or twice.  That list would be very long.  Folks that didn't tour the US very often, like John Martyn, or McCartney, only twice.

If I could have seen just one, it would not really be a Floyd show.  I don't care for any of Rogers albums.  He went full fail as a solo artist.  What happened?  I love many Floyd albums, where let's face it, Roger was Pink Floyd.  The rest were his helpers.  Hope that doesn't send you fans into fits.  He wrote most every song, and sang most of them.  David had his moments, some good ones.  Roger is doing the same thing Mike and Brian are doin', more or less.  Playing the records that made them famous.  But, Roger did one that I listen to/watch often, to this day.  It isn't my favorite Pink Floyd album.  The Wall  21 July 1990 in Berlin.  It was so powerful.  Seen it so many times, I can close my eyes and picture some of the great guests he brought along to play.  He was great in his part too.  The guests made it seem much more real, than just Roger and Co. doing the songs.  Better than the movie too.  -Will     I don't think anybody has addressed me as feels before, gave me a chuckle.  However for many years, my father-in-law insisted on calling me Wils, signed cards like that as well.

Will

I have to disagree about Roger's solo career, as I really enjoyed Pros and Cons and Amused to Death.  I think there's some good stuff on Radio KAOS even if it's weighed down by the uber late 80s production.

Roger was the captain steering the ship, but pre Animals, Gilmour and Wright contributed a ton musically.  And I think The Divison Bell, without Roger, is a fantastic album (although David needed outside help for most of the lyrics). 

I like the Berlin version of The Wall.  Have you heard his latest version?  He recently released a film from his 2010-2012 Wall Tour.  I actually prefer that as I wasn't really into Sinead O Connor singing Mother or Cyndi Lauper doing Another Brick Part 2. 

Ok I found these 'backing tracks' recently....does anyone know if there is a better fan-made version out there??

This is such a tease!!

Night Was So Young: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-AD_wTUeXw

More:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22love+you%22+instrumental+beach+boys+youtube

If he does a "Love You" tour maybe he can update some of the lyrics for today...
"he sits behind his microphone...
Jimmy Fallon!"

Does anyone know if below is true? Trying to find Love You instrumentals/backing tracks. 

"There are a handful of Brian's original "finished" Love You tracks floating around as well, though what I've heard are just like his early mixes for the previous 15 Big Ones - not that different... well, apart from Honking Down The Highway featuring an alternate lead vocal from Billy Hinsche and Ding Dang being slightly longer."

source:
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/cabin-essence-your-thoughts.345065/page-6

The longer Ding Dang and alternate Honkin' are true, you can find them on YouTube, not sure about the backing tracks.

Cool thanks! I found them and liked the longer ding dang.

Still dying to hear the album instrumentals though

That particular "backing track" sounds like simply the standard mixed "OOPSED", which simply cancels the common information in the two channels of the stereo mix, or this may be some other sort of digital extraction. You can usually pick out some aural artifacts in these cases (extra echo/reverb, swirly digital artifacts, etc.)

However, there are some genuine stripped down mixes out there. Ironically, it sounds like the "vocals only" mix of "The Night Was So Young" on YouTube is legit, it sounds too clean to be a digital extraction.

How about a Wild Honey (50th)/Love You (40th) tour?!! Do both albums back to back!! Than in 2018 he could cover Friends, BW 88 and Imaginations! Ha ha! Far fetched, but I would love it!

On another note, a Mt Vernon and Fairway tour which would be a mix of his songs from 67-77! Or a solo career tour inwhich he does a set of solo tacks coinciding with a cd release of Best of BW solo!

Definitely should do a Wild Honey tour - but I'd say make it Wild Honey/Smiley Smile. Would be a trip to see the band replicate those stripped down songs onstage. And BW88 definitely needs to be played live, so many great songs there that the band would play just brilliantly. A live Melt Away, Walkin' the Line, There's So Many, Rio Grande....I'm there!

Realistically, I think the only way Brian includes more solo songs would be for him to do longer sets, or play much smaller venues. 

From a fiscal standpoint, the majority of ticket buyers are there to hear the Beach Boys classics performed by the genius who composed them. 

What I wonder is if the 50th anniversary commemorations would continue for their 70's releases..... Or attention would be focused on the 60th anniversaries for their 60's stuff

mistake!

It's going to be 60's forever, because, as noted above, the general public only wants to hear the greatest hits. And for Joe Public, the Beach Boys (apart from a few fluke hits like Kokomo and Getcha Back) ended with the end of the 60's.

 Well, that's a tour that I would pay a lot of money that I don't have to see!!

How would a Summer Days (and Summer Nights!) set go down?

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/summer-2016s-30-hottest-tours-20160524

Not long ago, Wilson, 73, was considering retirement. Not anymore: After the success of his 2015 biopic, Love & Mercy, Wilson decided to hit the road to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Pet Sounds by performing the 1966 classic in its entirety. "I'm really having a lot of fun," he says. Wilson has seen lots of younger faces in the audience, and he's finding new meaning in classics like "Wouldn't It Be Nice" and "God Only Knows," with a band that includes longtime Beach Boys guitarist Al Jardine. "It's a nostalgic feeling," Wilson says of performing the material. "I go back to when I was 23 years old, producing that album. It makes me proud." Now, he's even thinking about his next tour: "I'd love to do Summer Days (and Summer Nights!!) in its entirety. Those are some great songs!"

If he ever did, I wonder if he'd do Summer Means New Love or Somewhere Quiet, preferably the former because Somewhere Quiet sucks.

In a perfect world Somewhere Quiet would never exist. Summer Means New Love was fine the way it was. It's like colorizing Citizen Kane.

Fixed that.

I still love you Brian

I cannot say I disagree.

Especially since Brian is not an artist whom I anticipate new and exciting music from, I'd be perfectly content with That Lucky Old Sun being his last album of new material, and then have the Gershwin and Disney albums after that. He's not Radiohead, I'm not eagerly waiting for the new BW song, especially since he hasn't written anything truly great since 1977. (With the possible exception of Summer's Gone)

You must really hate Brian. You jerk. Mr. Jerkface. You want to end up on the Naughty List?*


*The self-titled album is Brian's best solo record

I've secretly been on Murry's payroll this entire time!


Okay, I lied Rio Grande is pretty great, and you are correct, cheesy 80's production and all

You must be one of the mind gangsters!*

*The 80s production values make it work

Of course! I'm a genius too ya know!

I am so glad that I am not alone in thinking this

Syncopate it a little more! Get angry!*

*Murry was a meaniehead

back to the OP, I think we would all love to see this acknowledged, but will it?
No. Why? Because it's Capitol Records, and they are too heavily drilling the behind out of the Pet Sounds stuff right now.
The Beach Boys have never been represented to their full potential post 66/67.  There is so much in their cannon they could use to dare I say, 'exploit' the band that it is disheartening when you consider what 'Columbia/Sony' have done over the years to the Bob Dylan archives, or FTD with the 'Elvis' tapes,
and look at all of the stuff the 'Stones' have had available over the years.  We still only have a couple of live DVD's of The Beach Boys available.
They still have not even released a 'complete' Capitol albums boxset.  Like Seriously?  This is one of the biggest American bands of all time.
BMG have finally done Elvis, Apple have done 'the beatles', Columbia has done 'Cash' etc etc
Damn, even the 2012 releases were incomplete and scattered.  Frustrated Fan here  >:(

I'd love to see the backing tracks released in one form or another. I'll Bet He's Nice in particular! It sounds so Switched-On Bach even with the boys singing.

Agreed! I think it's amazing and often-overlooked how innovative Brian's use of moog synthesizers was in 77.

And even earlier than that!

But yeah, in 1977, here they were doing a proto-new wave album with a very punk DIY ethos.

I  hope the album will one day get the recognition it deserves. Kanye West has been heralded for his albums 808s and Heartbreak and Yeezus, in which he isolated himself and used different instruments to develop a new sound to his music. I believe Brian was doing exactly that with these tracks...almost 50 years earlier.

I like to compare the song 'On Sight' to 'Let Us Go On This Way'...they're protest songs against the artists' former formulas and they use synths to create a familiar-but-innovative new sound to accomplish this.

On Sight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMdUsEtaS-c

Let Us Go On This Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7u_ZkA7GUY