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Someone else posted this in a Facebook group: looks legit to me.

 CD 1

Pet Sounds (Mono)

Wouldn’t It Be Nice
You Still Believe In Me
That’s Not Me
Don’t Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
I’m Waiting For The Day
Let’s Go Away For Awhile
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
I Know There’s An Answer
Here Today
I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times
Pet Sounds
Caroline No

Pet Sounds (Stereo)

Wouldn’t It Be Nice
You Still Believe In Me
That’s Not Me
Don’t Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
I’m Waiting For The Day
Let’s Go Away For Awhile
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
I Know There’s An Answer
Here Today
I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times
Pet Sounds
Caroline No

Additional Material

Caroline No (Promotional Spot #2)
Don’t Talk. . . (Unused Background Vocals)
Hang On To Your Ego (Alternate Mix)
Caroline No (Promotional Spot #1)

CD 2

The Pet Sounds Sessions

Sloop John B (Highlights from Tracking Date)
Sloop John B (Stereo Backing Track)
Trombone Dixie (Highlights from Tracking Date)
Trombone Dixie (Stereo Backing Track)
Pet Sounds (Highlights from Tracking Date)
Pet Sounds (Stereo Track Without Guitar Overdub)
Let's Go Away For Awhile (Highlights from Tracking Date)
Let's Go Away For Awhile (Stereo Track Without String Overdub)
Wouldn't It Be Nice (Highlights from Tracking Date)
Wouldn't It Be Nice (Stereo Backing Track)
Wouldn't It Be Nice (Stereo Track with Background Vocals)
You Still Believe In Me (Intro - Session)
You Still Believe In Me (Intro - Master Take)
You Still Believe In Me (Highlights from Tracking Date)
You Still Believe In Me (Stereo Backing Track)
Caroline No (Highlights from Tracking Date)
Caroline No (Stereo Backing Track)
Hang On To Your Ego (Highlights from Tracking Date)
Hang On To Your Ego (Stereo Backing Track)
I Know There's An Answer (Vocal Session) [previously unreleased]
Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder) (Brian's Instrumental Demo)
Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder) (Stereo Backing Track)
Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder) (String Overdub)
I Just Wasn't Made For These Times (Highlights from Tracking Date)
I Just Wasn't Made For These Times (Stereo Backing Track)
That's Not Me (Highlights from Tracking Date)
That's Not Me (Stereo Backing Track)

CD 3

The Pet Sounds Sessions (continued)

Good Vibrations (Highlights from First Tracking Date)
Good Vibrations (Stereo Backing Track)
I'm Waiting For The Day (Highlights from Tracking Date)
I'm Waiting For The Day (Stereo Backing Track)
God Only Knows (Highlights from Tracking Date)
God Only Knows (Stereo Backing Track)
Here Today (Highlights from Tracking Date)
Here Today (Stereo Backing Track)

Alternate Versions

Wouldn't It Be Nice (Mono Alternate Mix 1)
You Still Believe In Me (Mono Alternate Mix)
I'm Waiting For The Day (Mono Alternate Mix, Mike sings lead)
Sloop John B (Mono Alternate Mix, Carl sings first verse)
God Only Knows (Mono Alternate Mix, with sax solo)
I Know There's An Answer (Alternate Mix) [previously unreleased]
Here Today (Mono Alternate Mix, Brian sings lead)
I Just Wasn't Made For These Times (Mono Alternate Mix)
Banana & Louie
Caroline No (Original Speed, Stereo Mix)
Dog Barking Session
God Only Knows (With A Cappella Tag)
Wouldn't It Be Nice (Mono Alternate Mix 2)
Sloop John B (Mono Alternate Mix, Brian sings lead throughout)
God Only Knows (Mono Alternate Mix, Brian sings lead)
Caroline No (Original Speed, Mono Mix)

CD 4

Live Recordings [all previously unreleased]

1. Wouldn’t It Be Nice
2. Sloop John B
3. God Only Knows

Michigan State University, October 22, 1966

4. Good Vibrations
5. God Only Knows
6. Wouldn’t It Be Nice

Daughters of the American Revolution Constitution Hall, Washington DC, November 19, 1967

7. God Only Knows

Carnegie Hall, New York, November 23, 1972 (2nd Show)

8. God Only Knows

Jamaican World Music Festival, Montego Bay, Jamaica, November, 26, 1982

9. Sloop John B

Universal Studios, Universal City, California, May, 23, 1989

10. Caroline No
11. You Still Believe In Me

Paramount Theater, New York City, November 26, 1993

Stack-O-Vocals

12. Wouldn’t It Be Nice
13. You Still Believe In Me
14. That’s Not Me
15. Don’t Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
16. I’m Waiting For The Day
17. Sloop John B
18. God Only Knows
19. I Know There’s An Answer
20. Here Today
21. I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times
22. Caroline No

Bonus Track

23. Good Vibrations (Master Track with Partial Vocal) (previously unreleased)

Blu-ray Pure Audio Disc

Pet Sounds:

5.1 Surround Sound: 96kHz/24-bit

Mono; Stereo; Stereo Instrumental (new to hi res): 192kHz/24-bit

1. Wouldn’t It Be Nice
2. You Still Believe In Me
3. That’s Not Me
4. Don’t Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
5. I’m Waiting For The Day
6. Let’s Go Away For Awhile
7. Sloop John B
8. God Only Knows
9. I Know There’s An Answer
10. Here Today
11. I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times
12. Pet Sounds
13. Caroline No

Additional Material in 5.1 Surround and Stereo

14. Unreleased Backgrounds (Unused Intro for “Don’t Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)”)
15. Wouldn’t It Be Nice (Session Highlights)
16. Wouldn’t It Be Nice (Alternative Mix without Lead Vocal)
17. God Only Knows (Session Highlights)
18. God Only Knows (Master Track Mix with A Cappella Tag)
19. Summer Means New Love

Essentially, an upgraded 1997 box. Trying to convince myself there's enough new material to spring fro the whole thing...

Hrmmm, the live stuff is intriguing. But I selfishly kind of wish they had picked some different live takes. While those live tracks are technically "previously unreleased", they've literally all been booted in one form or another (with the possible exception of the '89 track; but I presume that take might have been heard in the '89 "Endless Summer" TV show). Four live versions of "God Only Knows" and they couldn't find at least one that hadn't been booted?

I figured a Billy Hinsche '75 lead on "I'm Waiting for the Day" was unlikely, and they probably don't have a soundboard on that one anyway. I would presume there's no soundboard recording of Carl's "Don't Talk" from the '74 tour either.

A tiny bit surprised they didn't pull IJWMFTT or "Pet Sounds" from the 2012 tour, but maybe C50 is *that* much of a political minefield at this stage.

I know BB fans (or any fans) can sometimes be impossible to please, but I guess we really do have to just look at this as a reissue of the PS Sessions box. We all knew something like this was going to happen when the 50th hit.

That all being said, the Carnegie Hall '72 live version of GOK (heard very briefly during the montage in the "Endless Harmony" doc) is probably my favorite live version ever. I like the prominent piano on that one.

I suppose I might spring for this if it has really nice packaging or something.

great tracklist.  but for someone who has basically has all except the live stuff on their, it's a typical Capitol release.
'give what they already have with a few new things to suck them all into buying again'.
I was excited about this, but now it's just a 'meh'.  Great for the new beginner though exploring for the first time.

Thanks for posting, AGD.

I have to say, this might be the first thing since my real fandom began--greatest hits comp/reissues notwithstanding--that I'm not going to buy. It looks great for someone who doesn't have the vast majority of it. If I didn't have the previous PS box I'd be all over it. But the new stuff just doesn't warrant the (presumably) substantial cost.

So great to finally have the partial vocal good vibes master. Been waiting forever for that to see official release

On one hand I really want it for the live tracks and other unreleased stuff, but one the other hand, I'm not sure if I really need yet another version of Pet Sounds. All the new stuff will probably be up on that #TheBeachBoys YouTube channel anyway at some point.

Wait, so this 'unreleased' GV master is actually a partial master containing isolated vocal tracks? Is this what I'm getting at? That would be a holy grail release if true!

The backing vocals for "Don't Talk" are the most spine tingling beach boy moment for me. It's like hearing God in a multitude of Brian's voices

Pre-orders are up on Amazon.com for the various iterations of the release. June 10, 2016 is the expected release date.

Wouldn't it be nice if they released it on May 16, 2016?

No stereo version of "Hang On To Your Ego"?

If there's anything worth justifying archival release regarding the Pet Sounds album, this must be it. That song's a gem, and arguably superior in lyrics and meaning to "IKTAA".

Amazon page is saying $80 (http://www.amazon.com/Sounds-Anniversary-Deluxe-Blu-ray-Audio/dp/B01DB0EB7S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458696994&sr=8-1&keywords=pet+sounds+50th+anniversary).

I can buy the Pet Sounds Session box set for less than half of what this new piece of product costs. If they thought they were going to hook fans in like me with 10 new, already available, live tracks, they are sorely mistaken. I'm disappointed we're not getting something along the lines of an entire Michigan show on this release, but I'm assuming we're going to be seeing both Michigan performances as part of the copyright series at the end of this year...

Not all vocals are lost from the single master tape. There's partial verse verse vocals and some other vocals that still exist. If you search out the 1988 rough mix smile set that's from the tape Mark assembled you can hear what vocals still exist on the master tape. Hopefully this can result in a true stereo mix with the partial vocal.

It's still listing the "Brian sings lead" version of God Only Knows.  There's been much debate on this board over whether that is actually Brian singing or if it's just an alternate take of Carl.  Does this settle it or will we continue to argue this?

We'll do what we do best...which is argue...

They really couldn't put the mono mix of "Trombone Dixie" on?

Well, provided it's in stereo, I'm very excited for that partial vocal Good Vibrations. Ought to make for some smashing fan mixes. Otherwise, this does look like a bit of a redundant release with Pet Sounds Sessions already out.

Does your amp have a mono button?  Try pushing it

Highly unlikely. It would have been mentioned by now.

The live selections are intriguing! Hopefully those full shows will all be released eventually.

Being a completist when It comes to official releases, I'll be buying this for sure!

Could it be related to this?:

My bad. I misread that as the Columbia vocal 8-track master having been discovered.

Not gonna buy it. I don't have any interest in owning 100 versions of Pet Sounds and it songs. Plus the live section makes it kind of stupid listening experience (same songs multiple times). Bums me out they take time and "effort" to release this but no Holland, Sunflower or Love You boxsets, which I'd be drooling over. Mainstream doesn't care if it's Beach Boys Pet Sounds box or Beach Boys Love You box - they're not buing it. So why not please the fans?

You know, I'd completely forgotten there was a 40th anniversary release.  :o

A reminder: as with The Smile Sessions, there will be multiple formats.

4CD/Blu-ray Audio collector’s edition presented in a hardbound book, featuring the remastered original album in stereo and mono, plus new hi res instrumental and 5.1 surround mixes, as well as session outtakes, alternate mixes, previously unreleased live recordings and hi res stereo and mono mixes...

2CD and digital deluxe edition pairing the remastered album in stereo and mono with highlights from the collectors edition’s additional tracks...

remastered, 180-gram LP editions of the album in mono and stereo with faithfully replicated original artwork.

I may well cherry-pick the digital release.

I agree with Hey Jude. 

I would've thought a live version of I Just Wasn't Made for These Times would've been an obvious choice.  I'm sure they have plenty of good soundboard versions from which to choose. 

Also, other than the live disc, is there anything to differentiate this from the Pet Sounds Sessions released in 1997? 

I'll probably just listen to it on Spotify unless I end up getting a surround sound system.

My old PS box set is somewhere in Nicaragua, so I'll be one purchaser of this.

I'd really only be willing to purchase this if I could get it on the cheap.  But, I'm thinking that'll be unlikely.

Same here. There is not enough "NEW" to make this a worthwhile purchase for me.

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The high-rez disc is new (though we did get a different high-rez standalone release with the DVD-Audio circa 2003), though no new material is on it (though this is the first high-rez release of the instrumental album).

I think the "Good Vibrations" partial vocal tape is new (though of course previously booted), and likely included due to interest stirred up by the partial isolated GV vocals heard in the "Love and Mercy" film.

I would assume the "stereo" mix on this box will be the latest iteration of it as opposed to the original 1996 version (meaning the few tweaks such as Mike's bridge vocal on WIBN).

But yeah, I think there's literally nothing new and previously unheard/unbooted on the set. I'd have to think Capitol/UME allotted a relatively small budget to this thing, as it's cobbled together mostly from old releases and a small amount of mostly known and easily at-hand live shows.

As for the packaging, I do think it's a nice sleek design for a five-disc set. Certainly how I normally prefer multi-disc sets as opposed to pretty but giant and unwieldy packaging.

However, I'm going to be the "impossible to please" fan for another moment and say I was actually kind of hoping for something more elaborate and filled with goodies to make me want to buy it. As it is now, I have even less motivation to get this, especially for $80.

I'm getting it not just to be a completist, but also....let's face it: The Pet Sounds Sessions was done in 1996. There most certainly is a sonic upgrade over the past 20 years -- especially since a great deal of the original PSS was *analog*. I'd love to hear a nice digital upgrade.

Here's another question.   

If I were to purchase this box (not for $80, but if I found a bargain), would there be a need to get the previous Pet Sounds Box?

Ie.  Is there anything on that box that isn't on this one?

Or is this another case of Good Vibrations v Made in California where both have different rarities? 

The 1996/97 set sounds wonderful, and apart from actual upgrades on tape sources (say, for the alternate takes/rough mixes), I doubt this new set will sound better (with the exception of the BD of course). It'll just be mastered louder. Apart from some alternate masterings of the mono mix (Audio Fidelity), I don't think any post-1997 mastering of PS material has sounded better than the PS box.

I think we're, for better and worse, long past the days where any "newer" release and remastering is going to sound better by default.

Nobody can even still really decide which mastering of the mono mix sounds the best. I'd say the DCC and later the Audio Fidelity releases are the best. A lot of people don't like the mono disc on the '97 boxed set. The new DAT source for the 40th anniversary "Fuzzy" digipak sounded better to some, but some thought it sounded too sterile and lifeless.

Meanwhile, we've already had third-party audiophile remasterings of the freaking stereo remix. I guess the MFSL SACD of the stereo mix from a few years back sounds marginally better than the '97 boxed set, but not by much.

I think the original "Pet Sounds Sessions" box is pretty much perfection (ignoring the mono CD). It's still the version of the stereo mix I go to, and that core 3-disc set of the stereo mix/vocals-only/sessions material is mastered expertly.

I think either the '97 box or the short-lived 1999 mono/stereo two-fer are the only way to get Brian's bridge vocal on the stereo WIBN. That might be all.

Not at my computer but I think that's on iTunes. If not, it's a very good point.

Thanks for the info HJ,

This is one that I might keep an eye on to see if the asking price comes down. 

If not, I'll likely pass. 

Yeah, I couldn't even begin to guess *which* version(s) of PS are used for iTunes and other digital or streaming services.

I think for a variety of reasons they've tried to kind of erase the "Brian bridge" version of WIBN in favor of the rejiggered version with Mike. I like the idea of having Mike on it to correctly reference the mono mix.

My preference for the "Brian bridge" version has less to do with it being Brian singing instead of Mike, and more to do with the funky stuff that happens to the sound stage of the stereo mix when Mike's bridge comes in. It kind of collapses down to pseudo-mono/half-way stereo. Perhaps they've continued to refine this with extractions and whatnot compared to the first attempt to "extract" Mike's vocal for the first time in 2001.

Yeah, it's definitely one of those things where I couldn't really say someone should get the '97 box set *instead* of this new set. If you collect live boots and don't care about high-rez, then a cheapie used copy of the old boxed set is probably fine, though.

I'm a fan of rare tracks and live stuff more so than studio sessions, alternative takes/mixs.  That's why I got the 2 CD Smile Sessions as opposed to the deluxe one.  That's also why I, reluctantly, paid $90 for the 6 disc MIC. 

Agreed.  I always clamored for a live version of "Wouldn't It Be Nice" with Carl on the lead vocals.   He gave a more soulful reading of the song than Al did.  

Seems like a lot of stuff from the old box set was carried over to this one.  Not sure if that warrants another purchase of this album.  Pet Sounds is sure great and all, but how many times are they going to repackage this damn thing???  When's that 10-disc box set of Summer In Paradise gonna come out?

Still, I will probably pick this up one more time for the new features.    The only thing missing are new remixes courtesy of will.i.am.  :-)

Agreed.  Can understand why people dig the sessions stuff, but I can't really get that much out of it myself.  It's interesting to hear once or twice,  but serves no other purpose for me otherwise.

Same here.  It's pretty cool to hear how a song evolves and takes shape, it doesn't really lend itself to repeat listening. 

If I had a wish list for Pet Sounds related releases, I'd love a deluxe DVD or BluRay from this tour with a full unabridged concert, along with some extra goodies like tour rehearsals, interviews, etc etc. 

I'd rather just buy Disc 4 by itself, just to hear all those live versions of GOK. I've already got two PS box sets, don't really need another one.

Maybe one day, we'll get a really live live anthology with full concerts from all the different eras. 

But, I'm really not holding my breath with the recent digital only releases (ie Chicago 1965).

will we ever get the version of "Here Today" from the "American Band" documentary?

The live tracks are also on the 2CD version.

Count me in as a huge advocate of the Brian-sung bridge. Huge. Even if it's not the version that was released in 1966, I first fell in love with PS from this 1997 stereo mix with Brian singing the bridge, and I don't think Mike's vocals in that section hold a candle to Brian's. The emotion is greatly lost, IMO. The way Brian sings the word "if", just for one, has so much longing, and Mike's just sounds nasal and whiney to my ears (and I say that being a fan of many other Mike vocals).

Absolutely no contest here. I think that many people who prefer Mike's bridge may feel that way because they fell in love with the mono version, and heard it for decades, and anything else doesn't sound "right". Maybe my opinion is just as colored, but I really don't think so.

Since there was so much flip-flopping by Brian of who would sing this section, I wonder if Brian was persuaded/talked into putting Mike on the released version, possibly as a way to make up to Mike for Mike's small amount of lead vocal parts on the album. It's clearly a very big deal to Mike that his vocals be in that section.

It matters to Mike and to a lot of us, because that is the way it was originally released. Of course you opinion is colored, as is everyone's. You like what you like and the rest of like what we like. I also don't prefer Brian singing lead on Surf's Up either. I've heard Carl's lead for 40 years before hearing Brian and I prefer Carl's vocal. There is no underlying conspiracy or like/hate thing going on, just a preference to what I am used to hearing.

I don't think anyone doubts it would matter to Mike. I'd be stunned if it didn't.

Supposedly/allegedly, Carl took issue with the mix differences upon hearing of the project in 1996. Presumably, it was explained that they were using all extant multitracks, and of course eventually everybody signed off on it.

They surely would have used Mike's vocal from the outset if it was on the multitracks. We first heard Brian's bridge lead in "An American Band", and both cases were basically just flukes based on extant tapes.

Now both Brian and Mike versions are available, in multiple mixes, and the dropped-in Mike version is included on all releases. So what's to argue about?

Mike nor anyone else can be mad about the initial 1996 stereo mix; they didn't have the resources to drop Mike's vocal in. Five years later they did, with mixed success, and ever since that has been the norm.

While I would love that mix, that was a mix made specifically for that documentary for odd reasons.

Apologies if everybody knows this story, but Alan Boyd (I believe) explained a long time back that the producers of "An American Band" had permission to use the multitracks, but not to use any finished, final Capitol mixes. So they had to go out of their way to make sure the mixes in the documentary were demonstrably different. It's also probably why they had to resort to live versions of things like "409" and "Shut Down", because there was no way to remix those and make them sound notably different.

This info explained why all the songs in that documentary sound so screwy sonically. The fringe benefit was sometimes a neat-sounding alternate mix.

By sheer chance the original version of Wouldn't Be Nice is the version with Brian on the bridge for me.  Back before I started buying music (I was 12/13), the version I downloaded had Brian singing the bridge.  I wasn't even aware of Mike singing the bridge until I bought 50 Big Ones.  I definitely like Brian on the bridge much more.  

thank you I didn't know that,,, ;D

I'm a bit underwhelmed by this release.  I have just about every Pet Sounds release and will probably buy this for completist sake (the book might be nice!).

It's also a little annoying to hear them talk about the mono and stereo vinyl versions as if it's they will be something to get excited about.  Maybe someone should remind Capitol/UMe that the AP vinyl and SACDs are out there!  Can they improve on those?

A poster would have been nice, some preprinted and signed sheet music, the Brian doll etc.

All of the above.

Some promo blurbs have teased "other merchandise", so there may be other posters and shirts and things of that nature, as well as of course Brian merch (the doll perhaps) and Brian tour merch.

I'm willing to concede that everyone (including me) can have their opinions colored by falling in love with the version they heard first. But I truly don't have some automatic aversion to Mike's vocals over Brian's (Mike's "Here Today" vocal trumps Brian's IMO, just as I think Brian's original speed "Caroline, No" trumps the released version... I can easily make those statements  :)).

For the WIBN bridge, the delivery of the vocal between Brian and Mike is quite a difference in terms of mood and tone for the song as a whole... Mike delivers those WIBN bridge lines in a bit of a chipper and happy-sounding way, compared to Brian's bridge vocals which sound more aching. Brian's "if" sounds like it comes from a similar emotional place as his overall vocal delivery on IJWMFTT, while Mike delivers the word "then" not too dissimilarly to how he sings "whennnn" on the comparatively lightweight "Be True to Your School"... and it's just inferior by comparison... IMHO.

We're lucky to have had the problem with the missing multi track, in the era before vocal extraction was possible, if only because it resulted in hear a glorious stereo version with Brian in place. I think that if the tables were turned, and that Brian's vocals were in place all along in all released versions from 1966 on, and then that bridge lead went missing, and they released Mike's vocal in that section for the stereo remix in 1997, people would not largely think Mike's vocal was better than Brian's part.  Think about it. And truly, I think that's the case irrespective of any band politics, or what people think of those two gentlemen on a personal level.

It's all opinion, of course. Yet I think my theory would be proven if people new to the band, or people unaware of the band's members or any political BS would listen to the two versions back-to-back. I think Brian's bridge easily would pass the Pepsi challenge!

Also, Mike explained that radio started playing the stereo mix instead of the mono and wanted a stereo mix to match the mono mix. By 2001 they had the technology to do so, and they did.

During the time of Pet Sounds Session box set's assembly, I would not have wanted to be the guy whose job it was to tell Mike that they couldn't find a multi-track for his vocal, and that Brian's was then the only option.

I wonder what circumstances came about in BB land that the improved technology (allowing for vocal extraction) led to another new version. I wonder if Mike or an assistant was asking around for several years when that technology could be developed, or if the producers involved knew from 1997 how important it was to Mike, and they just gave him a head's up in 2001 that they could now make a flown-in vocal version.

All things considered, I guess we're quite lucky that only a small handful of elements were missing from the Pet Sounds stereo mix.

I don't need a Love You box, but Holland or Sunflower? Yeah, I'd buy those. How many times are they going to reissue Pet Sounds, as if it was the only thing the band ever did?

I'm not at all angered or surprised about this new PS release. It was an obvious release that was sure to happen.

I'm a bit surprised that they've gone to such lengths to do a big 5-disc boxed set with so little new content.

It has been nearly 20 years since the PS Sessions box. Just as there are younger fans going to Brian shows who weren't around to see the 2000 PS tour and whatnot, there are probably people who will buy the new PS box and be unaware that it's largely a reissue of a nearly 20-year-old boxed set.

Just like PS has allowed a re-branding of Brian's tour to the point that he's selling multiple venues out and booking 80+ shows even though it's the same band and a lot of the same songs that people could have seen last year, so too does this new set re-brand what has already mostly been there the whole time.

My problem isn't with sets like this. I just wish they'd also open the vaults up for download releases. Live shows if nothing else would be easy; they own the tapes; they don't even have to go through a major label.

I'd love nothing more than a release of vault shows like you've suggested. But with an example of the vintage Knebworth 1980 concert containing some vocals drenched in autotune (ie. the lead on California Girls), that makes me think that maybe some band members are way too nitpicky and self-concious to just allow a full show to be released in raw form, without porting over every last song, and all the associated politics and signoffs that this would entail. Maybe that's why it hasn't happened yet? Very frustrating.

Post-1960s stuff has in general been a sensitive topic over the years with the band, or at least some members. It's why stuff like "Hawthorne, CA" probably had few post-1969 tracks.

I've never detected strong autotune on Knebworth 1980 (Mike's voice is the only possible candidate, and I know during the 1980 tour he was using a bit of a vocal effect on his mic, a sort of phasey/flange effect; you can hear it during the 1980 DC show as well). I've been listening to Knebworth tracks since they included a number of the songs from the show on the "20th Anniversary" TV special in 1981, and I don't hear anything egregious on that one. Subsequently I haven't heard them apply autotune to other vintage live tracks.

Same here.

The BBs are still my favourite group of all time, and i'd definitely buy any kind of Hawthorne, CA type release, or Bedroom Tapes box set, but i think i've reached saturation with this kind of stuff. Maybe it's my age, maybe my lack of time to listen to the mounds of music i already own, maybe i resent being so frequently milked, but i'll pass.

I've got a ticket to see Brian on tour in May and i have:

original US vinyl
Carl & The Passions & Pet Sounds original vinyl
2xLP mono stereo yellow/green vinyl reissue
DVD-A
1997 Box Set
the 1999 remaster CD

That's plenty good enough for me.

Not sure about how Mike reacted as the box set was being prepared, but the request of adding his vocal to the bridge had to have been a few years later if the radio explanation is correct. Mike probably had no idea that they would start playing the stereo mix as much as they did.

I don't know about you, but whenever I hear WIBN on the radio, or played somewhere in public, and it's obvious that it's a stereo version (which it often is), I to listen to it through with eager anticipation to hear if it's gonna be Mike's flown-in original bridge vocal, or the Brian bridge vocal. I would not be surprised if Mike does the same thing to this day.

I'm not sure what the ratio is these days (of which version gets played), but it's a bit like watching the Dick Van Dyke show and seeing if he's gonna trip over the ottoman or not.

I don't give it much thought, but it has been a very long time since I last heard the Brian bridge on the radio. I'd say Mike got his wish.

I'm going to assume for now that the inclusion of four Good Vibes-related/actual tracks implies there's unlikely to be a GVs 50th anniversary release later this year. Between the multi-version CD single, the TSS box and this set, that particular well must surely be home dry by now?

Same

All of those excerpted concerts should just be released in full. WHERE'S THAT NOVEMBER 1967 TOUR BOX SET?!

Waiting to be released on November 2017.

yonder comes the merch. open your wallets again, again.
https://store.udiscovermusic.com/*/Pet-Sounds-50th-Anniversary/

First the Smile surfboard now a Pet Sounds beach ball? Can they make more misguided merch?

I wonder If these will be real Brian sigs or more forgeries?

Just pre-ordered the Yorkshire-exclusive string vest, knotted hanky, bottle of Factor 60+, stripey deck chair and knee-length Speedos bundle, which comes with a 23p-off voucher for a 99 cornet from Luigi's van on Scarborough seafront.

Frankly, I'd rather they did a version that came wih a plastic goat.

I'll get a version that comes with the best music ever made.

I wonder if, to mark the tenth anniversary of the 30th anniversary, there'll be a traditional 12-month delay while Mike rewrites the liner notes? :lol

 :lol :lol :lol

That would be the 20th anniversary of the 30th, actually, but your basic premise holds true (although the answer is "no").  ;D

Mr. Doe sometimes you remind me of the gondola driver at the Venician hotel in Vegas.  Such a good ride!

It wasn't until after I'd chosen my email address as bellagio@... that I realised there even was a Bellagio hotel in Vegas (that's the link: tenuous, innit ?), because for about 18 months thereafter I used to get room enquiries and bookings on a weekly basis. Amusing... for maybe a month.

You must excuse young Manning. He's from the northern territories, where the art of accurate temporal calculation is, as yet, undeveloped.

For them as is interested, the 2CD lineup is:

Disc 1: Mono/stereo
  1. Wouldn't It Be Nice
  2. You Still Believe In Me
  3. That's Not Me
  4. Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
  5. I'm Waiting For The Day
  6. Let's Go Away For Awhile
  7. Sloop John B
  8. God Only Knows
  9. I Know There's An Answer
  10. Here Today
  11. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
  12. Pet Sounds
  13. Caroline No
  14. Wouldn't It Be Nice
  15. You Still Believe In Me
  16. That's Not Me
  17. Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
  18. I'm Waiting For The Day
  19. Let's Go Away For Awhile
  20. Sloop John B
  21. God Only Knows
  22. I Know There's An Answer
  23. Here Today
  24. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
  25. Pet Sounds
  26. Caroline No

Disc: 2: highlights from the 4CD/BluRay box
Michigan State University, October 22, 1966
  1. Wouldn't It Be Nice
  2. Sloop John B
  3. God Only Knows
Daughters of the American Revolution Constitution Hall, Washington DC, November 19, 1967
  4. Good Vibrations
  5. God Only Knows
  6. Wouldn't It Be Nice
Carnegie Hall, New York, November 23, 1972 (2nd Show)
  7. God Only Knows
Jamaican World Music Festival, Montego Bay, Jamaica, November, 26, 1982
  8. God Only Knows
Universal Studios, Universal City, California, May, 23, 1989
  9. Sloop John B
Paramount Theater, New York City, November 26, 1993
  10. Caroline No
  11. You Still Believe In Me 

Instrumentals
  12. Wouldn't It Be Nice
  13. You Still Believe In Me
  14. That's Not Me
  15. Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
  16. I'm Waiting For The Day
  17. Let's Go Away For A While
  18. Sloop John B
  19. God Only Knows
  20. I Know There's An Answer
  21. Here Today
  22. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
  23. Pet Sounds
  24. Caroline, No

well that changes things a bit, nice set.  sorta fits in better to us die hards who want the new stuff.

That's also the digital release, so one can cherry-pick.

Next to the DCC and AF mono versions, the PS box set mono is the best sounding version IMO - the DAT 40th anniversary sounds bad probably due to technical limitations of equipment at the time and actual degeneration of the DAT source.  It is the best version of the "New York tape" certainly (DCC and AF were from the now lost master, as was the original 1990 Capitol cd and the DAT copy).

And despite the MFSL release of the stereo remix, I still prefer the box set to all subsequent stereo releases, although I've heard the Acoustic Sounds SACD of the stereo mix is as good or better than the box set - I'll reserve judgment until I hear it.

If the 2 CD version had the Good  Vibrations partial vocal track from the box set, I would definitely be in.  But of course that would be too easy for fans who want the unreleased stuff and don't want to repurchase four CDs of tracks we already have.

Temporal calculation? Everyone knows that lots of planets have a north… erm…

I'd originally typed anniversary of the 40th anniversary reissue, realised my error and half-corrected it >:( Eeh, I am vexed!


So anyway, the two CD edition will include identical copies of the tracks Pet Sounds and Let's Go Away For a While? (Or will the instrumental version be sure to omit the backing vocal on LGAFaW?)

I SEE your Chris Eccleston reference, John... and I salute you!   ;)

I'm guessing the 2-CD versh will do what the old box did: instead of 'instrumentals', we'll get the basic track minus one overdub for Pet Sounds (the track) and Let's Go... or maybe a headphone-only mix revealing the ghost remnants of the erased vocal on the latter. Or perhaps the set will come with a free alto flute and viola, with an authentic Brian signature: "THIS is what it was, tha cloth-eared numpties! Now go and learn to play them! ...love and mercy, Brian"

Regarding the set... well, tragically (as I have ZERO interest in old 70s and 80s versions of Pet Sounds tracks - the studio originals simply cannot be improved upon, in my view), I'm going to have to spring for the big version, for the GV partial vocal thingy. And I know that's playing EXACTLY into what Capitol hoped for, but I cannot resist the pull of that track.

Plus, I never bought any of the hi-res DVD-Audio stuff, so I can scoop that and all the good stuff on there now by buying this as well. I actually only have two versions of Pet Sounds (1990 CD and 97 box), so the overkill isn't too bad for me.

Plus, we're not talking MiC levels of expense here. £54.99 actually seems pretty reasonable to me for what's in the big set...

...oh - I give up. I admit it. I am in eternal thrall to this album, a hopeless addict; there is no escape...   ;)

I have the DVD Audio version and have tried it on a couple of systems.  I have never found it anything of an 'improvement' over the mono or stereo
remix.  Although, I only experienced the listening on normal people's surrounds systems which were probably not set up appropriately, just plugged
in and played. maybe on an audiophile setup, it could be completely different. but on normal and average listening, this disc really has no point.
so for a joe blow like me. mono or stereo will always be the listening field for me.
hell, I even have 'Brian Wilson Live 2000' and 'Imagination' in these formats. There is no advantage for me as a punter. only as a collector.

I'll probably spring for the lot, but over time to ease the impact on the wage packet.

As these cannot be deemed essential purchases on any humanitarian level whatsoever, I'll also be donating a similar sum to a Syrian refugee fund. Hell knows, they need it more than I really need another copy of Pet Sounds.

I regard my Pet Sounds addiction as an illness. I have a dream of a Paradise in which I have time to listen to and compare all this incarnations of my favourite album, while being served pints of Theakstons Peculiar Barista Stout by 72 blonde California virgins.

Do we have any UK prices for this yet?

4CD £55, 2CD £18. Ish.

It seems to me that this set would have been a perfect opportunity to include live versions of "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times", and "Pet Sounds" from the 2012 tour, or maybe even a mini DVD of performances of said songs. It would have really brought Pet Sounds "full circle".

That's a nice idea (what's a "mini DVD" though?)

Thanks!

I'd feel guilty if I didn't buy the  4CD set but bearing in mind I have the original box, I may get by on the with the 2CD version

I didn't know what to call it. :lol I don't know...DVD ep?

I think that should be part of the VIP package. 

Sad to see no Trombone Dixie or Unreleased Backgrounds in the 2 CD release because those tracks were revelations for the casual fan in the original CD that was released just before the Two Fors. I took my copy over to a friends house to listen to since I didn't own a cd player at that time. We were in his living room listening to Unreleased Backgrounds when his mom walked in and when the overdub part played we stood silent with awe.

I sincerely hope we at least get a digital release of the complete Michigan afternoon and evening shows and the DAR show.

Yeah, I had thought they had taken care of us previous box set owners, but then saw Good Vibrations was missing. Sigh.

This is wrong on so many levels: a reissue of the 2008 vinyl reissue, due April:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001B0G5WA

Where do I get my plastic lop-eared goat?

Yes, it's still freely available online and in some stores.  Maybe it's a stock photo but I didn't imagine it would be any different from the Vaults release of 2010. Money grab! Stick to the AP.

Lest we forget
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Gotta assume this track listing for the 2Cd set is wrong:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01DB0EADI

Each CD just has the album tracks. Or is it just a mono album disc and a stereo album disc?

Yours,

Confused of the North

**koff**

 ;D ;D ;D

There's a pre-order bundle which includes a Pet Sounds slipmat over at uDiscover. I already have too many copies of Pet Sounds on vinyl but I would love the slipmat -- here's hoping they offer it separately in the US, however unlikely that may be.

http://store.udiscovermusic.com/*/Pet-Sounds-50th-Anniversary/Pet-Sounds-Mono-Vinyl-Exclusive-50th-Anniversary-Slip-Mat/54Z50B51000

Pricing: why are Amazon UK's prices for the box and vinyl editions almost twice those being asked by the official preorder site? Is this a case of price fixing to bolster the preorder site's trade? SpinCDs has better prices but they're so unreliable when it comes to stocking what they advertise…

Best prices I've found are the official UK preorder site for the vinyl, Spin for the box and the 2cd. But, for an extra £10/£15 above what the pre-order's asking, you can go to CDjapan and get the SHM box for plenty less than Amazon UK's asking.

Why no official pre-order for the 2CD?

Anyone care to share what they've found, UK-wise?

Just as a matter of interest, has anyone here ever put together some kind of 'Beach Boys present Pet Sounds Live' or would it be possible? Obvious songs have been done over the years, then Dave did the song 'Pet Sounds' during the C50. Did the group ever do LGAFA live? I guess gaps would have to be filled with Brians band version.

We sort of came to a consensus in this thread.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23435.msg561226.html#msg561226

Ahhh got it. Thanks.

JB HiFi listings for AU punters:
https://www.jbhifi.com.au/Search/results/?keywords=Pet%20Sounds&p=1&s=rel&sd=1&fc=brand%3A%3AUMA&mf=brand&fm=false

For NZers its great value at JB. NZ$139 compared to Aust$165. The vinyl is also much better value this side of the ditch (NZ$39 to Aust$47) 

https://shop.jbhifi.co.nz/music/pop-rock/pet-sounds-50th-anniversary-superdeluxe-edition-4cd-blu-ray/97225

They are good prices! The boat must stop down your way first.

I rarely buy from JB over here, I get better deals from the indie stores, particularly Greville Records in Prahan.

However, JB do the best job spruking what's available on the local market (for those that forgo the import route); purely due to the bread they've pumped into their promo-machine and typing monkeys.

Apologies if this is old news, I may have missed this in another thread, but in the blurb I noticed this...

50th Anniversary of The Beach Boys’ “Good Vibrations” Single to be Celebrated with Commemorative Release This Fall

and

This year also marks the 50th anniversary of one of popular music’s most iconic singles of all time, The Beach Boys’ “Good Vibrations.” The Beach Boys and Capitol/UMe will celebrate “Good Vibrations” with a global commemorative release.

Has this been mentioned?

Maybe a re release of the EP?

That blurb's a lift from the PS 50 box news update on BB homepage, way down the bottom.

Start a thread!

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Hmmm… spot the difference. Both from Spin CD website - one's illustrating the Japanese version, the other's the UK version. One of 'em's gotta be wrong…

I'm going to have to skip this one, hope I don't have to turn in my fan card.  I can afford it, but I can't 'justify' it since it's so similar to the 30th anniversary box set that I've already got... and to be completely honest I didn't buy it new, I bought it at a flea market for $10 ! 

I get it though, some people are really into the collectible aspect of it but generally I just ride around with the CD's in a case in my car.  The rest of the stuff I look at one time and put it on the shelf. 

The Pet Sounds Sessions boxset was so well done I just don't feel this is a huge improvement on it, enough to justify spending that kind of money to mildly update what I've already got...

Preach it brother.  Brothers.  I'd buy any of those three! 

The 2 disc version covers most of the unreleased stuff, and is a fraction of the full set. Just thought I'd mention.

The bottom version is the correct one...it matches their position in the final album cover.

God Only Knows (Live 1966) released as a teaser...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc9kMktodNs

I think it sounds better than the boot...

EDIT: Definitely sounds better. It has a lot more "fuller" sound.

bloody hell, I'm gonna end up buying this. errrrrh!  GOK 66' sounds wonderful.

It's on the 2 CD version.  No need to go hogwild on the whole box set.

but I still 'need' that beautiful expensive box and book to stare at for a bunch of months before I file it with the rest of the 'crap' I've collected.  :'(  Poor me. Everyone go 'awwwwwww'

Uncut gives the new box 10/10 and identifies one of the highlights as being the '72 CATP two-fer mono master. If I had known that was included, I'd forgotten! :)

Is this review online?

Not sure Eric, my subscription copy was on the doormat when I got home yesterday.

ETA: nothing visible yet on their website. Unfortunately someone's breathing over my shoulder so I can't type it in, short as it is!  ;)

That's possibly incorrect (the master used was the '66 master, subsequently maimed (WIBN, CN fade) & MIA) or "they"'re presenting a needle drop of the '72 vinyl.

Unless an intact first gen reel has just appeared in the magical dumpster of lost classic rock tapes.

Good thinking Alan: I'm currently 60 miles away from my mag and wondering of the choice if the word "master" was my own and not the reviewers, as I thought when I read the review that it might actually be a needle drop. Time - and Amazon and the postman - may tell!

It is indeed from the master used for the 72 Brother/ Reprise release which was originally supervised by Carl. We used it for both the CD and BluRay on the box as well as the new vinyl release.

Mark

Technically speaking, what are the sonic characteristics to listen for which make the '72 master source a better choice than any other available sources?

Many thanks Mark, damned intriguing! Is the master a recent discovery or was it neatly filed all along, and only recently referenced?

Is the next move a fresh vinyl pressing from it? . Actually scratch that; I have one pressing from that master, and one's as many as I think I need, given that I'll have bought around 10 different incarnations of that album in the last 12 months! :lol I might even have bought at Knebworth in 1980, now I think about it…

Was that 4 out of 5? Why/how on earth would they dock a point?

Was this mentioned previously and if so where did I read about it?  ;D

Sincere apologies… I've corrected my post - it was a perfect 10.

Not at all sure what happened there… autocorrect? More like dementia creeping in (creeping further in!). Andrew used to call me on my typos all the time ;)

Mark, wow, thanks for the above. Some questions if you are able/inclined to answer:
- how was this master made (dubbed 2nd gen?)
- does it have compression or other specific EQ adjustments added as some listeners (at various sites) have suggested/assumed
- was Stephen D involved with this master; ie assisted Carl
- was the '66 master version of WIBN spliced onto this tape thus missing from the now missing '66 master (apols if I have my notes wrong here)
- where did this tape go for the last 44 or so years
- did A/P use this twofer tape for their reissue

Cheers - A

From UnCut:


The Beach Boys
Pet Sounds: 50th Anniversary Edition
Capitol

Another generous box chronicling one of pop's greatest achievements

10/10 — Wouldn't it be nice if we could get a definitive edition of The Beach Boys' magnum opus? Pet Sounds still rewards with every listen, retaining the vibrancy of Brian Wilson's intricate arrangements and the bittersweet romanticism of Tony Asher's lyrics. A flop upon its 1966 release, the LP has grown in stature to become a true American rhapsody, which Wilson himself deconstructed on its 30th anniversary. A highly influential '90s CD, The Pet Sounds Sessions, set the template for every subsequent anniversary reissue, collecting the first stereo version as well as instrumentals, vocal tracks and studio puzzle-pieces. Subsequent repackagings simply revisit that idea, turning listeners into armchair producers but failing to replicate the sense of discovery. This new 50th anniversary edition does add a new twist: a handful of live tracks chronicle the band's history and take the studio-bound album onto the stage and, ultimately, out of Wilson's hands, showing how these songs took on a life of their own.
EXTRAS 6/10 — Previously available studio outtakes make up the bulk of the set, complemented by 11 new live tracks and a Blu-ray audio disc, but the real draw is the mono version of the album taken from the '72 Brother/Reprise vinyl reissue.
STEPHEN DEUSNER

 :thumbsup Cheers, John - A

*Jaw drops* Whoa! Would that be on a CD or another disc format?

It should be on both the CD disc and the Blu-Ray disc.

Okay, now pardon my ignorance but before the 1972 twofer master being used on this reissue, what mono master was being used for the prior reissues? Is the original 1966 master not around anymore? Anybody feel like giving me a run through of what's been what?

Well, I thought the original master was what was used for the mono AP re-issue. Maybe, Steve Desper knows the full story as to how the Carl Wilson supervised master of 1972 came to be.

If I remember correctly the master being used before this one was the safety copy that was found in (I think) Capitol's New York office which did have Wouldn't It Be Nice on it.

For the AP reissue?

As far as I'm aware, yeah. This box set is the first I've heard of the '72 Carl/Desper-prepared master being used since the CATP twofer.

Don't joke about that, John, though I'm not sure there's much else you can do!

The '66 master has been missing since '92.  This was discovered when Mark L went to source the master for use in the GV Box.

Prior to this Mark had used the '66 master for the 87 CD, when he made at least 2 digital transfer copies:
- 1 with No Noise & EQ adjustments to address tape hiss.  Used on the 87 and '90 CDs.
- 1 without No Noise & a flat transfer (no EQ adjustments) which was lost and gone but found and used for the 40th CD in '06 and subsequent Capitol releases.  

For all mono releases post the '88 & '90 CD's & up until the '06 40th anniversary release, a safety copy (2nd gen) made in '66 from the original was used; this safety was also used for the DVD-A.

There is some contention what was used for the DCC & Audio Fidelity Hoffman jobbies in the '90's/naughties (ie, the original or the safety).

I am also led to believe the original master had a duophonic mix of WIBN tacked on, the mono from the master thought to have been cut off and put on a comp reel & the dogs of Caroline No excised, these atrocities have meant that the safety copy has been sourced at various times to augment gaps.

I do not know what was used for the AP reissue - I can only speculate, but from listener comments I've read, I'm guessing the 2nd gen safety was used.

The news of the '72 master is a nice surprise - again, speculating wildly, but I assume Carl and engineer X (not Mr Desper) took a copy of the original master and applied some specific "sonic" signatures or eq adjustments - some listeners have commented the '72 vinyl sounds a little compressed, and a little less boomy on the bass - perhaps these adjustments, IF they happened, were to update/align PS to the sound of the times.

As to where this master has been hiding for the last 44 years, dunno - A

*all of the above re the original tape comes from posts by either Mark L, Bicyclerider or petsite's posts of old: apologies for any gleaning or other errors.


 

Cheers for bringing it together in one post Alan!  ;D. I've read about the different copies over the years, mostly regarding WIBN but couldn't find where!

Has anyone seen this one??

http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Sounds-Stereo-Beach-Boys/dp/B01DB0EBMS/ref=sr_1_sc_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1464611047&sr=1-2-spell&keywords=PET+SOUNSD+VINYL

a flop upon its 1966 release....yup, a flop that hit #10 in Billboard, and produced 3 hit singles. What did it chart in Cashbox, 99?

Always loved Mike's "brrrr". I wonder if that's where Brian wanted to put the horse.



The Beach Boys premiere alternative mix of “I Know There’s an Answer” — listen
 Taken from the forthcoming Pet Sounds (50th Anniversary Edition) release

http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/05/the-beach-boys-premiere-alternative-mix-of-i-know-theres-an-answer-listen/

So let me get this straight...

A flat transfer of the original master was used for the 2006 40th anniversary release and also for the 2012 remaster?

And now for this 50th anniversary release they are using the 1972 twofer master? That sounds cool. However, if they are trying to be true to the original release of Pet Sounds, wouldn't using the '72 version but kinda revisionist?

 ;D

Remember the 40th anniversary's original master digital copy from the 80's had the edited intros to several songs which are noticeable when compared to the NY copy. 

Wow, Brian looks and sounds great in this video:

http://www.npr.org/event/music/480296417/pet-sounds-at-50-it-never-gets-old

Thanks for that link! Nice. But I have the feeling that I've seen different parts of at least Mike's interview from other documentaries (or some kind of promo video). Could it be that it was filmed for the Smile webisodes or maybe even for the "Warmth of the sun"-promo?

Cool to see footage from Brian and Al's in studio performance of Pet Sounds. Also Pet Sounds sessions-pictures that I've never seen before plus different footage of the GV sessions than was used before.

Sloop John B (Live At Michigan State University/1966)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sMRBkheQno

Looks like the live “Sloop” was pulled. Does anyone know which site debuted it? I saw a link to it on Facebook earlier but now can’t find it.

Try the link again; it just worked for me.

Pet Sounds 50th – Mini Documentary

https://youtu.be/s-2-KLAcIAU (https://youtu.be/s-2-KLAcIAU)

New link for  Sloop John B (Live 1966)


https://youtu.be/2mQyJd4gNJw (https://youtu.be/2mQyJd4gNJw)

Sure wish they didn't make it seem like the guy who isn't Chuck Britz IS Chuck Britz. I mean, Chuck's there in the Western footage, but I'd like to know for sure who the engineer in the Columbia footage is. Jerry Hockman? Ralph Valentin? The fact that this footage is from the "Good Vibrations" sessions (and filmed months after Pet Sounds' release) doesn't bother me nearly as much as not knowing for sure who that guy is.

He's in some of the pics in this thread but isn't identified:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,11262.0.html

Couldn't find anything substantial on the net about either men...

Best Buy-exclusive version of the Pet Sounds 50th anniversary edition will include a bonus “God Only Knows” / “Wouldn’t It Be Nice” 7″ single:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pet-sounds-50th-anniversary-2-cd-7-deluxe-cd/5224101.p?id=3574080&skuId=5224101

Looks like it’s on yellow vinyl? Also looks like it might be an offer for the single instead of an actual single on-package.

50 years wasn't enough time to get this ready-- Capitol needed that extra month.

That's what they did with Wings' Venus and Mars/At the Speed of Sound releases. You pay for the shipping, so it's not really "free".

Probably the same pressing HmV is offering as a stand-alone exclusive in the UK.

  This is a seriously flawed mix - is this really the mix that's on the box set?  At two points (just before the chorus) a split second of a deleted backing vocal part can be heard which immediately cuts out.  Very sloppy.

It may be a vintage mix...

Foskett on Pet Sounds:

http://www.examiner.com/article/jeffrey-foskett-remembers-pet-sounds-at-50

Not a bad interview, though folks like Jim Hines, Todd Sucherman, and Mike D'Amico might take exception to one of the interview comments.

Just noticed the delux is up on NZ itunes, but not live until the 10th (tomorrow here). The 3 live released tracks can be sampled and purchased.

It's going to be a Pet Sounds-a-palooza in the coming weeks within my household.

I've pre-ordered the Super Deluxe Edition off of Amazon and the Stereo Vinyl (with bonus slipmat!) from UDiscover.

Along with that, I snagged the Reprise re-issue off of eBay for $25 earlier!

So I'm a happy camper! :woot

Up now on NZ itunes and spotify. Australia probably as well.

Personal notes:

1) I received the 2-disc digital edition as my Amazon Auto-Rip companion. Weird...

2) The first difference I hear? "You Still Believe in Me" in stereo has the double tracked (mono?) Brian vocal over the remaining backing track and vocals.

3) The new stereo WIBN instrumental track isn't as full sounding as 1997 was.

4) Washington DC, 1967 aren't the greatest live recordings I've heard from the band. It gets better in song order.

5) I want Carnegie Hall officially released. GOK sounds amazing, and from what I've seen from the boot, it was a great show.

5a) I had to laugh at Dennis (?) doing backing vocals on GOK at the end.

6) Sloop John B with 1989 Brian sounds great too! I didn't know it was made-for-TV...

7) Overall, I think they could have done a better job with the live tracks, selection-wise. WIBN (x2), SJB (x2), GOK (x4), YSBIM, GV and Caroline (x1).

8.) The mono sounds better than I can remember.

Surprised that only the two disc version seems to be on Spotify

I'm still mulling over the decision to purchase this new set.  I am probably in the minority, but live tracks do nothing for me.  I have never been interested in hearing live stuff from any artist.  It appears that that the live tracks make up the bulk of previously unreleased material in this new set, and I have every other version of Pet Sounds released in the past.

I might wind up buying the set just for the booklet/pictures/text.

Holy Christ, those stereo mixes are a million times cleaner, going to grab this asap.

Edit: Okay, as a guy who spends unhealthy, and downright insane amounts of time mixing his own sh*t... these new mixes are INSANELY good. The new stereo mixes are literally so good I'm getting in the car now to buy it.

Am I just crazy? These really seem like new, clean as sh*t mixes. Putting most of the instruments new one side is *pretty* genius, it allows the original mono genius to come through without the vocals intruding, then lets the vocals blend with the instruments with no clips.... JESUS CHRIST THE FIRST WIBN bridge... "We could be married" listen to the backing vocals....

I was under the impression that, with the possible exceptions of tweaking little bits (Brian's doubled lead on YSBIM, Mike's bridge on WIBN, etc.), the stereo mix of the album proper on this new set is the 1996 stereo mix.

Indeed, I assumed the stuff on this set pulled from the PS Sessions set was mostly all the same mixes done in 1996, just remastered again.

It very well could be, but something *SOMETHING* really clicks with me hard about this. I have no clue, as I said I'm likely just crazy :P

Edit: Man, I have no clue what it is, it just seems so much smoother and warmer.

Just bought it on Amazon.  Was going to go to the store, but of course not a single store in the area has it, so I'll have to wait until Thursday for the physical stuff.

If you're not into high-rez or live tracks and already have the PS Sessions set, I can't imagine the new set would be a needed purchase.

Ironically, while I'm usually not big on extra swag and books and packaging added to things just to bloat the price, this was one of those times I actually wish they had made the set more lavish with more swag, as that might have made it easier to decide to purchase it.

I do like the somewhat shelf-friendly packaging on this new set.

It's probably something I'll pick up eventually. But it's hard to buy an expensive set that is mostly a double-dip (or triple, quadruple, etc.), especially when for some reason they used almost entirely all previously booted live tracks.

Interesting read, many thanks for the link HOWEVER (as quoted)

"I am humbled and honored to sing one of my favorite songs (“Caroline, No”) on the current Beach Boys’ tour. I loved performing this in the 1980’s with Carl Wilson and then decades later with his brother Brian"

Sorry but I don't recall Caroline No being performed much at all in the 80's (if at all) UNLESS of course i am losing my marbles

It was in the setlist circa 1988 for a bit I believe, and perhaps now and then at other times in the late 80s. The only 80s performances on the admittedly very incomplete setlist.fm website are two 1988 performances. It appears that, pre-Kokomo in 1988, the BBs VERY briefly got more adventurous with the setlist, as 1988 saw brief runs of doing "This Whole World", "Forever", and "Caroline, No."

One of the funny bits in the 1990 "Hotel Tape" with Brian, Foskett, and Bruce is when Bruce keeps trying to show Brian a new piano arrangement bit he has done for "Caroline, No" and Brian keeps ignoring him.

But yeah, the song was definitely not a regular in the setlist in the 80s.

So the big questions I have to ask is for those bought the Super Deluxe Set. 1st are the session highlights extended at all or are the same ones from the 97 boxset? 2nd is the Good Vibrations track with partial vocal worth hearing?

I like all of the live tracks except for that 1982 version of God Only Knows.  What were they thinking with that synthesizer???

The 1993 version of Caroline No might be one of my favorite Carl vocals ever.  I think I almost cried hearing that.

It's interesting (or not, I suppose) that the "Beach Boys" Facebook page is heavily promoting the PS 50th set, including posting links to the Brian/Al in-studio videos, and Brian and Al are cross-posting/re-posting stuff from the "Beach Boys" Facebook page, but Mike hasn't posted any promotion of the PS 50th set on his Facebook page (as far as I can tell; I haven't scavenged the whole thing; he certainly hasn't promoted it in recent weeks).

He made one post on the PS anniversary a few weeks ago, and posted a link to a YouTube video that promoted his "50 Years of Good Vibrations" tour, and he has mentioned the anniversary in the context of playing songs from the album in his shows.

Another example of bad individual and group management; to not even be able to cross-promote an archival group project.

Somewhat related, but I thought it was interesting that the live songs with Brian, Al and company are being labeled as a performance by the Beach Boys.

Official or not, this is well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mFlwi8tc

Little disappointed with the book, it looks great but there's not much information in there (kind of like with the Made in California set).  The booklets that came with the Pet Sounds Sessions box were much more comprehensive.

2) Oh god yes. The Good Vibrations (Master Take with Partial Vocal) is probably the stand-out track on the set. There's even a hidden surprise at the end for the die-hard of the die-hards...  8)

I smell a lawsuit.

Can someone please post this GV track, so we can see is this the one that was used in L&M movie during the GV scenes??
Also I seem to remember that this track was already (if it really is one with partial Carl vocal) released in some bootleg, I think :-\
Maybe someone can clarify??

I would love for someone to post it to Youtube, then I wouldn't have to buy the huge Deluxe set, btw I am buying the 2 Disc though.

I'll have the box soon enough, but I'd love to hear that....

I'd also love to hear this version of Good Vibrations, anybody here wanna step up to the plate?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq13oqz06Z0&feature=youtu.be

sounds great and really incomplete.  Enjoyable and then frustrating not having the rest of the parts there.

Maybe they are going to release a 100% true-stereo version in October for the 50th anniversary of GV...

Here's my go at it

http://puu.sh/ppL0j/c254bbbeeb.mp3

That sounds really great!

ehm, not well done? this promo video stinks  ;D


GV vocal fragments are great, especially the chorus part where the blend is split into their individual components. Surely using this mix and vocal extraction techniques a pretty solid stereo mix could be made!


terrei's mix is really good!

terrei, did you use all of those partial vocals to make this mix?

btw, you mind pm'in or emailing me your mix? i think it sounds spectacular.

All I did was use kn0ck0ut plugin to crudely extract the vocals and then laid that on top of what was missing.

So... I got my set on Friday, played the GV Partial Vocal track through, enjoyed that, let the disc play to the end, and thought 'ho hum, no extra content'. Just everything that was on the 1997 set seemed to still be there.

This morning, I caught up on posts here, and saw this. Thought "Oh! Perhaps I missed something after all!". Played the track again, but... I still can't hear anything extra.

I mean... the isolated vocals from the Here Today bridge, of Brian (?) chatting with a photographer about his flash, are there positioned right at the end of the disc, and so are the isolated vocals from the IJWMFTT chorus, so you can hear what those words are clearly... but they were on the 1997 set. I was thinking there was something new to 2016...?

Or did I STILL manage to miss something??

How's the CATP mono version?

Am I right to assume (before I go purchasing) the CATP mono version comes on the 2CD set?

1. It's clear that the CATP master is in poor condition
2. Besides spots of tape distortion and numerous pops/clicks, the only audible difference is the presence of much more low-end, like somebody turned an EQ knob as far as it could go

For everyone who understands german, here's an article about the release:


Fünfzig Jahre Glitzern

So weltfremd und funkelnd wie je: „Pet Sounds“, die Beach-Boys-Platte, die Paul McCartney zum Weinen brachte, erscheint zum fünfzigsten Jubiläum in einer reich mit Boni versehenen Ausgabe.

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/pop/album-der-woche/beach-boys-album-pet-sounds-erscheint-mit-bonus-material-14284540.html

That's what I was talking about, only that I did not know that it was on the 1997 set. I thought it was new to 2016 and freaked out when I heard it in the car.

Another official clip. Location for the PS Shoot.

http://vevo.ly/JYn4kc

I like the part where they superimpose the 1966 BBs over the current footage of the photo shoot location.

Very nice. Thanks for the link!





Yeah, I love these kind of now-and-then photos. Anybody got the picture (maybe a screenshot)?

Forget the screen shot.

http://www.popspotsnyc.com/beach_boys_pet_sounds/

Thank you!

Great job terrei on that GV stereo mix.  I love when Mike comes in with the backing track in glorious stereo behind him.  My only issue is the single Carl vocal in places from this new mix on the box which makes it a little uneven when the double tracked ones comes back.  But it's very impressive.  Great job!

The live tracks do a great job showcasing Carl and Al over the years. Not a great Mike representation unfortunately . He makes a complete ass of himself on the 60s intro clips and he's too much in the 82 vocal mix.

I think the live stuff was a bit of a missed opportunity.  I love "God Only Knows" but I think just two live versions rather than four would have been enough and of all the versions they had to pick from, I don't know why they thought to include that '82 version.  "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" was played on the 2012 tour and was not on the official live album so that would have been a nice inclusion.  I've heard live audience recorded versions of "Don't Talk" and "I'm Waiting for the Day" from the 70s too but then again, there might not be any professional recordings of those performances in existence.  Also, the two versions of "Wouldn't It Be Nice" included are the abbreviated versions from the 60s without the "You know it seems the more we talk about it..." part.  They could have included one of the versions from the 80s and 90s when Carl sang lead so that the full version was represented.

Ta.  I guess I'll pick up a copy.

My guess is that they were simply given a *very small* budget for this new PS set. It's mostly rehash from the PS Sessions set, and the live tracks are, with one probable exception, all previously booted.

I'm guessing they didn't have a huge budget for a lot more searching and vetting of live tracks.

I'm wondering if even some of the Blu-ray audio mastering work had already been done for the apparently canceled standalone Blu-ray audio disc release that was on release scheduled in the last year or two or so.

Got my set today. The 1989 “Sloop” is amazing. We don’t get enough ’80s Brian in archival releases.

Agreed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rckEKuIV8T0

Let's hope so. In the meantime, I'm throwing an old mix of mine from a few years ago out there: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a93nh01df7xdh7z/The%20Beach%20Boys%20-%20Good%20Vibrations.mp3?dl=0

To me, it's the closest to true stereo out there (better than the Derry Fitzgerald mix from the remaster, which was very impressive). Terrei's mix is very good too though. I should re-do mine with the new GV track, though I don't know if it'll make it any better because of the fake stereo doubling added to most of the vocals.

Wow Tom, I'm impressed! Vocal Isolations?

Two great mixes there, terrei and TW. :=)

Hi everyone,
I just went through the Box Set and I love the package. It makes me want to start a collection of books/music. Imagine the same kind of box set for Friends, Sunflower, Surf's Up, Holland or Love You (with 5 discs of content (highlights from sessions, live, backing tracks, a capella, alternates mixes...) for each album, I'm sure there is enough material) ! It would look so great on a shelf !

'Good Vibrations (Partial Vocal) is a little disappointing: they omitted the 'hum-dee-daa' section. Still a track worth having, I'd say.

Those vocals are not on the original single mix, nor the 1st stage vocal overdub reel that that new mix uses.

Could they not have inserted it?

Wasn't the whole point of including that "Partial Vocal" tape to essentially just plop down into the set the in-progress "working version" of the song up to that point?

I think inserting something else into it that wasn't there would have defeated the whole purpose of including the track. It's a tape with only partial lead vocals that I assume is being included mainly because interest in that partial vocal tape was piqued when it was used in the "Love & Mercy" film; it's not supposed to be a top-tier "finished" presentation.

The "Hum-be-dum" stuff is available elsewhere, I don't see why they would have or should have shoehorned it into this particular tape.

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I don't get your point. The version of "Good Vibrations" is not the "hum-be-da" version. If you like it, awesome, but obviously they are focusing on the the original classic single version (albeit in stereo), not an alternate version.

There's also the GV anniversary release to come later this year. Why throw all their eggs away in one premature basket? Patience is a virtue!

Ah yes, I heard about the commemorative GV release. I know this seems unlikely, but the GV material should be part of a 50th Anniversary Smile reissue (Disk 1) in true stereo.