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The two that immediately spring to mind are the Monterey Pop Festival and doing bvs for a track on The Wall. They recorded "SITS", with Jacks producing, in August/September 1970, but decided to to release it.

Reputedly, the band canned it because they thought they sounded like choirboys...

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm...  :o

I'd call that not so much "turned down" as "kinda petered out". I've read several times that The Beatles wanted the BB to do bvs on "Back In The USSR", but couldn't get in touch so did it themselves. As they were on the same label, not sure I believe that...

Is your turned down/petered out statement in reference to Run DMC or to a second C50 album?

What's the deal with Run DMC? Never heard of that. Weird pairing, but better than Fat Boys.

Just listened to Seasons in the Sun for the first time. I've never liked the Terry Jacks version but I really like the BBs. Carl Wilson's voice makes it less treacley to me.

The Run DMC thing was something I heard from someone who claimed to be in touch with Gary Usher on a regular basis, and whom Usher used to send tapes, including the original Run DMC "Wipe Out". Recently I asked Usher's executor about those claims, and was told that he'd never, ever heard the name I mentioned... which pretty much fit into what else I'd learned of this individual to paint a picture of a liar, a fantasist and a thief. All in all a right bastard of the first order.

The Run DMC thing was something I heard from someone who claimed to be in touch with Gary Usher on a regular basis, and whom Usher used to send tapes, including the original Run DMC "Wipe Out". Recently I asked Usher's executor about those claims, and was told that he'd never, ever heard the name I mentioned... which pretty much fit into what else I'd learned of this individual to paint a picture of a liar, a fantasist and a thief. All in all a right bastard of the first order.

The Run DMC thing was something I heard from someone who claimed to be in touch with Gary Usher on a regular basis, and whom Usher used to send tapes, including the original Run DMC "Wipe Out". Recently I asked Usher's executor about those claims, and was told that he'd never, ever heard the name I mentioned... which pretty much fit into what else I'd learned of this individual to paint a picture of a liar, a fantasist and a thief. All in all a right bastard of the first order.

This is surprising. I first read about Run DMC in the Wilson Project book. I think Usher is quoted as saying that. Btw, Usher used to send tapes to McParland. Is it him you're talking about? I thought you were friends.

Oh no, no, not SJMcP at all. He was the guy who told me someone was lying.

I just checked... no mention of Run DMC. However, the interesting thing is that Usher evidently recorded Brian, Mike, Alan & Bruce... yet on the released version, all I hear is a wall of Brians.

"[Paramount] wanted the Beach Boys to do 'Wipe Out' with Run DMC and to my knowledge it had all been set up with both groups. However, Mike Love had already negotiated a deal where the Beach Boys were going to record the song with The Fat Boys, but he had not told anybody about it"

Paramount was not aware of the previous commitment until Usher contacted the company querying the fact that he had just cut the same song with The Beach Boys and The Fat Boys.

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"I told her I thought that The Beach Boys were going to do the song with Run DMC and she said 'They are!' and I replied 'Well why am I putting The Beach Boys' voices on a Fat Boys' version of the song?'...Evidently Mike Love and The Beach Boys had not told her or Paramount about the commitment with The Fat Boys. Becky absolutely went bananas and then even got made at me! I had only done what I had been told to do. I thought the session had been arranged by Paramount. We'd been talking about doing 'Wipe Out' for weeks and so when I received the phone call I figured it was all systems go"

Mine's the 1991 edition...

Corrections welcome, as ever.  :)

So is mine, pink cover, bought it at Tower Records. My 1991 says the same thing about Wipeout as does Andrew Hickey's. And if you don't hear Mike, who is doing the bow, bow, Bows on the low end?

While various members were involved, Pink Floyds 'The Show Must Go On' and Chicago's 'Wishing You Were Here' could also be included.

So is mine, pink cover, bought it at Tower Records. My 1991 says the same thing about Wipeout as does Andrew Hickey's. And if you don't hear Mike, who is doing the bow, bow, Bows on the low end?

While various members were involved, Pink Floyds 'The Show Must Go On' and Chicago's 'Wishing You Were Here' could also be included.

Yeah I should have put a ? after the 'Wishing' mention. The wiki page for the song does say the The Beach Boys were present at Caribou and Carl, Al and Dennis only were involved which made me wonder if others had declined. Some other searches say only Carl, Al and Dennis were at Caribou, hence the uncertainty on my part.

Care for a third version ? The session for the bvs was on 11/13/73, give or take, and the band played Denver on the 14th. Cetera knew they were in town, called them to ask if they'd lend a hand, and Mike, Alan & Dennis duly turned up at Caribou. They certainly weren't doing any recording of their own at the ranch, having been on tour since 2/11.

One more potential: I recall seeing a TV show about Elton John, and he mentioned he wrote "Harmony" for the BB, adding "they turned it down, then ended up singing on my version !" (not exactly, but Bruce was past of the choir: caveat - I may be mistaking "Harmony" for "Chameleon", which also had Bruce on it and the bvs for which were recorded at Brother).

You're right and I'm not only wrong but also a bloody idiot. Apologies.

One that the artist passed on: David Lee Roth wanted them to do the bvs of his "Just Like Paradise" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4qh_9vH1Ww), but insisted Brian be part of the deal. That couldn't be guaranteed, so he withdrew the offer. Shame, coulda been at the worst, amusing.

The eyes have finally gone - which page ?

And no, I don't hear Mike on the low end. Because it isn't Mike.  :)

AGD--in terms of Mike's presence on the track, we have Usher's account of him at the ssseion and recording a background part assigned to him by Brian ( presumably a bass part). Why do you think the bass part is not him?  Were you told that or does it just not sound like him to your ears? If not Mike, then who is it?

WELL, I HUMBLY STAND CORRECTED--it isn't there. I could have sworn it was, probably because there is a detailed description of the Wipeout session in pages 90-92. However, there is in fact no discussion of Run DMC. I know I read that--which book is that discussion in?

Usher also states that Bruce & Alan were at the session: do you hear them on the released version any more than I do ? Can't prove it, but I have a strong feeling that Landy commandeered the master and replaced all the other BB vocals with a wall-of-Brians.

In my copy of the 2013 edition, the discussion is several pages after the discussion of the Wipeout session, the page headed Monday, March 8 1987. I'm *fairly* sure it was in the earlier edition, too -- afaik the only difference in the 2013 edition is the addition of an introduction and the "Tape #10" material -- but I don't have a copy of that, so can't check.

I can, and I have - you are correct, it is. Usher's recollection is a trifle confused.

Really!? (I mean, obviously, really: you wouldn't post that and then when I ask, "really?" say, "oh, no, I made that up for no reason.") I've never heard that before. It's timely, as I've just been revisiting various the guitarist from that band, Steve Vai, for the hard rock thread in the general music forum. (And DLR was quite a favorite of mine around that time, an excitable tween as I was, delighted by triple-necked, heart-shaped guitars and whatnot.) Is this written about somewhere, or were you told it by someone? I'm curious to hear more, if there is more.

Usher also states that Bruce & Alan were at the session: do you hear them on the released version any more than I do ? Can't prove it, but I have a strong feeling that Landy commandeered the master and replaced all the other BB vocals with a wall-of-Brians.

What about Summer of Love with Bart Simpson?

Opinion question for anyone here who follows hip hop/rap, which I have thought about a number of times over the years since I first heard the RUN DMC story...if this collaboration had actually happened with RUN DMC rather than the Fat Boys, how would history have viewed it?  RUN DMC have an awful lot of cred and if the Beach Boys had recorded with them in the mid to late 80's how would that have affected the way hip hop fans viewed the Beach Boys (would it have given them a certain amount of credibility or not)?  Would RUN DMC be looked down upon?