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Title: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Wirestone on July 12, 2006, 12:39:24 PM
Wow -- I'm posting a new topic. It's been years.

Anyway, anyone notice that Foster's "Beautiful Dreamer" is quoted in "Goin' On'"?

"Awaken me beautiful dreamer." It's right there. So, topics for discussion:

1.) Has this been noted before?

2.) Do you think Brian added that phrase in the song? Or Mike?

3.) "Goin' On'" is a far, far better song than I remembered. It rocks, albeit in a slick kind of way.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Aegir on July 12, 2006, 12:41:53 PM
Isn't Foster's line "Beautiful dreamer, wake unto me?"

Either way, I don't think it was intentional. Probably subconcious, if anything. Or even just a coincidence.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Wirestone on July 12, 2006, 12:45:06 PM
Erm, I can't imagine it was accidental.

People don't run around saying "awaken me, beautiful dreamer." Given the generally prosaic lyrics for "Goin On" (I love you / I miss you / Things won't be the same / Till I kiss you) this phrase seems like a quote/reworking of the Foster tune.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Smilin Ed H on July 12, 2006, 12:53:07 PM
I'm sure Brian was a big Foster fan.  Disappointed he wasn't invited to participate in the tribute album a few years back.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Roger Ryan on July 12, 2006, 01:13:03 PM
Claymcc - Always good to see you on the board! But didn't you mean to say that the Foster allusion could be found in the lyrics to "Goin' On", not "Good Timin'" in your initial post?


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Wirestone on July 12, 2006, 01:24:33 PM
Roger:

Indeed! I am an idiot. But the damn placement of those tracks on disc 4 of the box set always messes me up. You've got "Good Timin,'" then "Goin' On." Two mid-tempo songs, two "G" titles. Argh.

Anway. Thanks!


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 12, 2006, 02:53:46 PM
Probably Mike. Don't forget, "All This is That" is basically paraphrased Robert Browning, and "Beaks of Eagles" is Jeffers.

Which just goes to show that Mike and Al could be geniuses at times too.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 12, 2006, 04:18:09 PM
Probably Mike. Don't forget, "All This is That" is basically paraphrased Robert Browning, and "Beaks of Eagles" is Jeffers.

Which just goes to show that Mike and Al could be geniuses at times too.

Think you'll find that's Robert Frost, not Robert Browning. 

:woot


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 12, 2006, 04:19:57 PM
Erm, I can't imagine it was accidental.

People don't run around saying "awaken me, beautiful dreamer." Given the generally prosaic lyrics for "Goin On" (I love you / I miss you / Things won't be the same / Till I kiss you) this phrase seems like a quote/reworking of the Foster tune.

In the context of the rest of the lyric, it's kinda... inevitable.

"The midnight redeemer/Awaken me beautiful dreamer"

Sounds kinda Mike-ish to me.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 12, 2006, 04:21:35 PM
Probably Mike. Don't forget, "All This is That" is basically paraphrased Robert Browning, and "Beaks of Eagles" is Jeffers.

Which just goes to show that Mike and Al could be geniuses at times too.

Think you'll find that's Robert Frost, not Robert Browning. 

:woot

D'oh! I'm actually been discussing Browning on another website, so I got him on my mind.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Wirestone on July 12, 2006, 05:19:30 PM
Perhaps Mike / Brian likes vampire novels? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/189389617X/103-1463130-2403824?v=glance&n=283155


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 12, 2006, 05:27:00 PM
Perhaps Mike / Brian likes vampire novels? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/189389617X/103-1463130-2403824?v=glance&n=283155

That's appopriate, because the current day Beach Boys really suck .


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Jonas on July 13, 2006, 09:01:50 AM
:lol @ Billy


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Wirestone on July 13, 2006, 11:34:09 AM
On second thought, re-listening to the song and checking the lyrics, "Midnight redeemer" is not in the song. The phrase is: "Come be my redeemer / awaken me beautiful dreamer."


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: PMcC on July 13, 2006, 11:45:21 AM

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Think you'll find that's Robert Frost, not Robert Browning. 

:woot
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.....hey, folks, the Robert is right,  but I think you both are meaning the great scottish poet/lyricist Robert Burns...


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 13, 2006, 12:12:02 PM
On second thought, re-listening to the song and checking the lyrics, "Midnight redeemer" is not in the song. The phrase is: "Come be my redeemer / awaken me beautiful dreamer."

Dammit, you're right... and all these years I've been singing "The midnight...". 
:thud


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 13, 2006, 12:13:49 PM

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Think you'll find that's Robert Frost, not Robert Browning. 

:woot
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.....hey, folks, the Robert is right,  but I think you both are meaning the great scottish poet/lyricist Robert Burns...

You're seriously saying that Rabbie Burns wrote "The Road Not Taken" ??


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Wirestone on July 13, 2006, 12:22:19 PM
Although, Andrew, I have to say that "midnight redeemer" is not a bad lyric.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: PMcC on July 13, 2006, 01:47:23 PM

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Think you'll find that's Robert Frost, not Robert Browning. 

:woot
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.....hey, folks, the Robert is right,  but I think you both are meaning the great scottish poet/lyricist Robert Burns...

You're seriously saying that Rabbie Burns wrote "The Road Not Taken" ??


....My goodness, no. That's Frost. I thought we were talking about "All This Is That"...Isn't that from a Burns poem?


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: PMcC on July 13, 2006, 02:01:32 PM
...Oh, I'm sorry. I may be thinking of "a man is this for all that"...or something along those lines, ..close, but no cigar.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 13, 2006, 02:32:13 PM
"Is There For Honest Poverty", 2nd stanza:

"What though on hamely fare we dine,
Wear hoddin grey, an' a' that?
Gie fools their silks, and knaves their wine --
A man's a man for a' that.
For a' that, an' a' that,
Their tinsel show, an' a' that,
The honest man, tho' e'er sae poor,
Is king o' men for a' that. "


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Wirestone on July 13, 2006, 03:07:29 PM
I must admit, I've never seen the appeal of ATIT. Nice vocals from Carl, of course, but kind of soppy otherwise. In terms of Brian-less material, I far prefer Dennis or Carl comps.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 13, 2006, 03:10:15 PM
It's... hypnotic... beguiling... and is about the only BB-TM song that doesn't send me running from the room with my fingers in my ears.

It's also my #1 chill song, if the day's been a bitch.


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 13, 2006, 03:37:01 PM
 Me too! Especially the tag.

Who produced it? Was it Alan?


Title: Re: "Awaken me, BD"
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 14, 2006, 03:09:33 PM
Best I can recall, Alan produced the original basic track (for want of a better handle, "The Road Not Taken"), then Carl took the reins. I'd imagine Mike had a word here and there too.