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Can't see a thread for tonight's globes, unless I'm blind..

Good luck Brian, Scott and Paul..

Hope all are attending.

Scotty is, although his FB post indicates the day hasn't exactly started well.

Paul Dano said, in his LA Times "live chat," that he's going and he'll be sitting with Brian Wilson.

Fantastic that all will be there, sorry to hear about Scott's woes  :(

I'll be watching.. for L&M related news

What kind of woes?

Hi all,

I do hope that Brian, Scott and Paul win!!!

I think I just spotted Brian and Melinda behind Matt Damon.

it already feels like the show's too long. This is the first negative aspect of Love and Mercy for me: I'm watching an awards show.

I missed that, at least they got good seats

These award shows are so pretentious and self-important, especially the Oscars. Best moments at one of these stupid things? When Marlon Brando sent Littlefeather to accept his award, and when Trey and Matt from South Park showed up tripping acid in dresses.

Seems weird that they are doing so many actress categories consecutively right at the beginning.

Of course Brian's seat is facing away from the stage lol.

Christ this is boring and tough to watch

Whats your favorite story ever told?

I've never seen so many people who all dressed up just to sit around and look bored.

King Lear. Why?

The never ending story  :p

ah! ha!
Go Alan Cumming!

I love Alan Cumming, shame he lost.

Like Christian Slater, though.

Go watch that instead. Youll find out the winners online soon enough without sitting thru such a self-indulgent bore

Yeah. Me too. I didn't even know he was nominated for something. Good for him.

I'm half watching it, turning my eye to my laptop now and then ..

Watching a bunch of Donald Trump interviews at the same time..for a good laugh  ;D

Kind of an interesting read considering a recent thread on band member pay...

aww. Kurt Russell and Kate Hudson are cute.

Paul Dano just lost to Sylvester Stallone.  I wish I was joking.  You can all go home now.

Paul didn't win, I figured Stallone would get the votes.

Ugh.

Brian is still to come  ;D

eh Stallone's underappreciated. He deserves it

Ugh. I wasn't even paying attention. Boo!

Golden Globes is more Stallone's crowd..

award shows are a joke anyway. Its all politics, popularity contests, possibly bribes and back room blow jobs too. Citizen Kane didnt win best picture, Al Pacino didnt win for any of his 70s roles, and Peter O'Toole who gave the greatest on screen performance ever, never won in his life. Look at whats happening to Leo right now too. Say what you will about him, but he deserves at least one Oscar. Dont take any of these schamltzy "look how awesome we are!" Hollywood circle jerks seriously

Leo should have one possibly two at least.

One Kind of Love lost Best Original Song, just wasted two hours of my life watching that crap for nothing...

OK, we can all quit watching now. It's a shut out.  :P

Ugh, lame.

I'm out.

Glad I didn't waste my time watching that garbage.

whatever foreign press people.

Don't forget Alfred Hitchcock.

I stopped watching that shyte back when Winchester Cathedral knocked off Good Vibrations.  Awards shows aren't real.  Don't watch 'em.  You'll never get those hours back. :3d

I am a fan of Denzel.

Add Some, you bring up a good point. I was so surprised when I learned that there were popular music categories when Pet Sounds and Good Vibrations, etc. came out and the BB were hardly ever nominated and never won! What's up with that?

Found these pictures on twitter.

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Stallone was fantastic in Creed. Totally deserving. The crowd reaction said it all.

that top one's really nice

Award shows are always awful. I wouldn't tune in even if Brian was confirmed to win five awards. If Brian had been performing, I'd have DVR'ed it and watched the five minutes and skipped everything else.

And separately, if one hadn't seen most out all of the movies in question, it's kind of hard to call Brian's shut out a travesty or anything.

Nominations are impressive enough. I don't particularly think "One Kind of Love" is among his best work, so a nomination was a pleasant surprise.

When Katy Perry came out to present Best Original Song, I practically prayed it was in the bag for Brian...if only to see him reach the stage and mistake Perry for Zooey Deschanel.

Became fascinated with BriMelspotting once I realized they were right behind Matt Damon's table. Melinda was frequently visible in her red dress in that sea of formal wear. I also noticed at the last commercial break they'd disappeared - I don't think they were in their seats for the last brace of awards. Probably a long night for Brian...but part of me thinks it's marvellous he's out on the town with the glitterati.

Glad to see Ennio Morricone win for best score - that made me happy, as he's long been one of my favorite composers.

At first I was disappointed that Paul Dano, Brian, and Scott didn't win a Golden Globe.

Then, I just found out that Lady GaGa took home an award for best actress in a mini-series for her role in American Horror Story - Hotel.  I'm a fan of the show, and this season has been better than I expected.  But her performance is really not very good.  I guess playing an emotionless half-naked (and sometimes all the way naked) vampire is award worthy these days.  Wow. 

The older I get, the more I appreciate the simple pleasures that abound with the music that Brain has given us. In Minnesota its time for slowing down and enjoying the path  taken.  Pay homage to souls that  have brought you enjoyment.  Go explore the wonders of the winter season (did you watch the Vikings game and the hardy souls)  Sometimes we  attempt to separate fact from fantasy as it may pertain to Brian.  The awards seem to be circumstances beyond our control.  Our horse lost in the race, but I love this horse so much.  I've won over this cancer mess and I hope to hear and see many more songs and concerts.  In a few more month it will be summer and  Brian will be back in his element.  Long may we all run1

This will sound cliche I think but anymore I think the Golden Globes and Oscars are a flavor of the month and popularity contest.

I didn't see "Creed" so I cannot make any judgement on Stallone's performance. What I can say is that he has been playing roughly the same character for many, many years and that award last night felt like the culmination of events rather than something more genuine. Paul Dano disappeared into his role in L&M.

Also, Sam Smith over Brian Wilson? YHGTBFKM.

Hopefully Paul Dano will be nominated for an Oscar, it's really hard to tell from award ceremony results what might it might portend.

Another way to look at it, as far as Brian's nomination, is that if he *had* won, it kind of would have been more on the merits of his entire career than that particular song, which is probably how the nomination happened in the first place. Same reason McCartney, outside of arguably his album of the year nominations, has usually received token Grammy gestures based on his back catalog and name recognition.

I think Bruce Johnston is capable of making some really d**khead comments online (and elsewhere), and while he was not the most credible source to be making such a comment, that comment he made however many years back about how Brian won the Grammy for "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" was kind of true. That was kind of an ass-backwards token gesture more representative of acknowledging Brian's entire career (and lack of a Grammy win prior) and an acknowledgment of the status of the "Smile" album than for that particular song, which is an amazing piece within the context of the "Smile" project but isn't, in my opinion, exactly an opus of a composition all on its own.

I hate to say it, but I think releasing the movie in June may have killed the film's chances at getting some serious awards.

I agree 100%.  I didn't understand why it wasn't released last December after the buzz it generated at the Toronto FF. 

I think had that happened, One Kind of Love would've been eligible for an Oscar.

I don't know all the cutoff dates and whatnot, but I don't think the timing of the release would impact being eligible for an Oscar. It may be that it would have to be held over for the next Oscar ceremony, which would indeed perhaps impact how much it's in the minds of voters.

As for the film's release, it's very common for a film to play a festival (or several festivals) well in advance of release. In fact, I believe it was played at the Toronto Film Festival in order to gain a distributor. It didn't have a distributor at that point, and it was through the festival dog and pony show that it gained its distributor. As is also the standard for the industry, a distributor usually doesn't pick up a film and stick it right into the theaters. Both due to perhaps the need to do further edits on the film, and to fit in to the distributor's release schedule, it takes months and months at the very least usually to get the film actually released.

If the idea is that a late year (e.g. December) release helps a movie's award chances, they would have had to wait until the end of 2015 to put the thing out.

Stallone is deserving and Gaga too; I have to back the 2 Italians, of course. But the Martian?  The entire show was an embarrassment--I could tell from the news reports and clips--drunken, Anglophile idiocy--H-wood at its most classless and intellectually low. Nothing about aesthetics or dignity. I wish BW win win, but you can't be disappointed in that sick environment.

Not a bit surprised that L&M got shut out.  As the Globes are often a fairly accurate predictor of Oscar winners, it doesn't look bright for our hero (heroes?).  Guess we will have to settle with the Mojo designation of best picture....Brits have better taste anyway!

Hi all,

If Love & Mercy had come out in the fall of 2014 it would have won.  Yet since it is a movie about Brian/BB it will come out in the summer.  Talk about stereotyping!!!  I wish that Brian had won. 

Since it is awards season, maybe the board should give out some. Call them the Wind Chime Awards, or the "Chimeys"...best performance in a Dramatic Thread,  most comedic post, Beat Supporting Troll.... ;D

We'll have to agree to disagree on GaGa.  

It seems like the Golden Globes had a set nomination for Jessica Lange each year for AHS.  So, they probably just swapped out names.  I think Kathy Bates or Sarah Paulson would've made a lot more sense for AHS Hotel.  

I don't think Lady Gaga was a good choice at all for The Countess.  I think that character should be a little more menacing.  

Brian posted this picture on twitter.

"Thank you everyone for all the well wishes. I had a great time at the Golden Globes!"

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Thanks for that photo -

Brian rocks the tux!

And, always the winner!  ;)

Black can be slimming, but it looks like Brian's dropped some weight. He looks great.

I was thinking the same thing. 

Brian looks really sharp there.

 :hat

Which would have been better than sending it out to be murdered by the blockbusters with no prestige cred to make up for it.

That's the best picture of Brian Wilson I've seen in a long time. He looks great.

It's also fun to see the shabby plastic stuff right by the red carpet. Show biz.

December 2015 saw the release of probably the most highly-anticipated film of all time, so L&M would have been lost in the shuffle even more later in the year. One could at least argue anyway.

I also believe they may not have even expected L&M to screen in as many theaters as it did. I could have easily seen this go the route of playing festivals and having an extremely limited run followed pretty quickly by a "rent it while it's in theaters!" $6.99 deal on Amazon.

"Love & Mercy" pulled in more than $12 million in the US, which is pretty good for a movie that never went beyond 791 theaters (for a comparison, big blockbuster movies usually hit 3500 to 4000 theaters), and only spent a single week at a full 791 theaters.

The film has also pulled in at least over $16 million from non-US markets. So a worldwide total of $28 million-plus is pretty good for such a low-key, somewhat niche film. It has surely brought in additional revenue on the home video and rental market, surely numerous additional millions.

This film has easily turned a profit, got numerous TV appearances, two golden globe nominations, scattered other film festival/film critics awards, probably would have been nominated for some film score awards were it eligible, has made "Top Films" lists, etc. By any fair measure, this thing has been pretty successful. It was *never* going to hit any sort of critical mass of hitting #1 at the box office or breaking records. And we're better for it; the filmmakers and actors seem to have done "their thing" and not undercut it to make it a more standard "biopic" with a standard arc, filled with an hour of pre-1965 Beach Boys hits.

It's also interesting to note that L&M is #18 *all-time* on the list of what Box Office Mojo categorizes as music biopics, and was #2 for 2015 in this category. I think that speaks both to the film's success and to the fact that music biopics apparently and clearly are *not* usually huge box office draws, with obvious scattered exceptions. Only two have hit over $100M, and only six have hit over $50M.

I hope thats not a reference to Star Wars. If it is, Id say its a stretch at best. Episode 1 was way more built up and anticipated because it was the first in over 15 years and the only movies were all beloved. Episode 7 was hyped up, sure, but Id argue it all happened so fast it wasnt quite the same. Episode 1 had years of good press and cover stories and intrigue. Episode 7 was also more tentative. I, and Im sure many others, saw it not expecting a whole lot--it was more just curiosity to see how someone else might handle the franchise and if it could be better.

Off topic, I realize. My bad; feel free to ignore.

It certainly was a reference to Star Wars. I guess "most anticipated" could be replaced with something else to describe a movie as big as that one, which became the highest grossing film in three weeks or however long it has been.

I've of course lived through both the 1999 and 2015 iterations of the hype and hysteria, and I wouldn't say one was hugely more anticipated than the other. There was a bigger gap between 1983 and 1999, so there was more built up hopes I suppose. But 2015 forms of media have inundated us with the new film in a way not possible in 1999, so it's kind of a wash.

The general point, though, was simply that if the idea was to release "Love & Mercy" in a timeframe where it wouldn't be as overshadowed, I can't think of a *worse* time than December of 2015, during which the highest grossing film (in the US, not adjusting for inflation) of all time was released.

I don't even think L&M would have gotten the seemingly partly apocryphal stories of "overflow" box office traffic had it been released around the same time, as that void was filled with other comedies, animated films, etc.

Perhaps many others had noted it in the past, but I was surprised to see how few music-themed "biopics" have been monster hits at the box office. I think studios know they usually don't do HUGE business. Even one of the top films on the list is "Amadeus", which certainly some folks might put more in the "historical biography" category than the other films on the list which are largely 20th century music stories.

Ol' BW has really slimmed down!  He'd make a better window than a door at this point.  Hope the weight loss was intentional.

Oscar nominations are out, and Love & Mercy got shut out.

The fact that 50 Shades of Grey has an Oscar Nomination for Best Original Song while One Kind of Love was snubbed honestly kinda hurt me.

50 Shades is also the proud recipient of one or several Razzie awards so I wouldn't worry too much.  And was anyone really expecting "One Kind of Love" to be nominated for an Oscar?  It's really not that impressive a song and hardly the best song on BW's solo album.

Not terribly surprised Love & Mercy was shut out although I thought it at least had a chance to be nominated for something.

Sympathetic article:   http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oscar-snubs-the-force-is-not-with-star-wars/

Paul Dano not getting a nomination was a surprise to me, but there's always plenty of surprises when Oscar noms come down. I'll be rooting for The Martian now. The Revenant was excellent too, so beautifully crafted, but Spotlight is sooooo over-rated.

Well said, sir.  This is what it's all about, not a charade like the Golden Globes.