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Title: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 03, 2015, 09:57:32 PM
 :'(


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: Emily on December 03, 2015, 10:02:53 PM
:'(
woah. what? googling...

googled.

It seems like a really bad time around now.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 03, 2015, 10:19:01 PM
Yeah, I found out shortly before it was made public. I'm numb as hell right now. The f***ed up part, I was JUST talking about him with my wife, and I mentioned he wasn't doing too good last I heard. No sooner did I finish my sentence , my phone blew up with texts.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: Mike's Beard on December 03, 2015, 11:37:04 PM
Very sad, was a big STP fan back in the day. Unfortunately, this has been a long time coming.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: KDS on December 04, 2015, 05:20:19 AM
I was kinda late getting into STP.  I actually preferred their mid 90s material when I felt that Scott Weiland started used his true singing voice instead of the yarling Eddie Wedder impression he did on songs like Plush. 

I've never been a big fan of 90s music, but STP had songs I really liked - Interstate Love Song, Big Bang Baby, Trippin on a Hole.., Sour Girl, etc.

I was also a big fan of Velvet Revolver.  I got to see them live about ten years ago.  Before I saw him in person, I never realized how good of a frontman Scott Weiland was. 

It's a pity he could never seen to shake his demons. 

RIP. 


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 04, 2015, 05:44:05 AM
 :'(


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ppk700 on December 04, 2015, 07:32:51 AM
RIP Scott. I've loved your music since... pretty much since I started listening to music. I was a little kid, 13 years old when "All In The Suit That You Wear" came out and STP was breaking up for the second time. That was my introduction to Scott and his music, and I've been a fan ever since.

"This fight could be the last fight, no giving and no winning"

I had the joy of seeing the then-reunited Stone Temple Pilots play in Canandaigua in 2008. I guess that was the only time I'll ever have gotten to see Scott live... him and that damn megaphone!

Sigh...


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 04, 2015, 10:49:29 AM
My all time favorite Weiland vocals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18g8McJFQbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwS_Eu-HLZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEkpZnc4dFc


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: Emily on December 04, 2015, 11:18:38 AM
My all time favorite Weiland vocals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18g8McJFQbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwS_Eu-HLZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEkpZnc4dFc
Beautiful choices. He had a really versatile voice.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: phirnis on December 04, 2015, 11:58:13 AM
The grunge era seems like such a long time ago now. I loved STP's second album Purple back in the 90s and No. 4, while it didn't have that big of an impact, became another personal favourite at the end of the decade. Only a couple of days ago I happened to wake up with Interstate Love Song playing in my head even though I hadn't heard any of their music in years. I was shocked when Layne Staley died in 2002 and it's truly sad to now hear about Scott Weiland's passing. I think rock history will be very kind to the Stone Temple Pilots. They definitely made their mark.

By the way, past the 90s I think he was sporting one of the coolest rock star looks ever.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 04, 2015, 04:44:58 PM
The bassist in Scott's band, Tommy Black, was arrested when they found his body. Cocaine possession. No idea if Scott was using or not, as I'd heard that he was, but according to those close to him, he was clean apart from being a heavy drinker. The drinking thing, though, was bad in that he was on a litany of medication (including his bipolar meds). He'd had a minor stroke back in 2009 (never made public), and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again.

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I was kinda late getting into STP.  I actually preferred their mid 90s material when I felt that Scott Weiland started used his true singing voice instead of the yarling Eddie Wedder impression he did on songs like Plush. 

Oh most definitely.



Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: Emily on December 04, 2015, 05:49:52 PM
Can't get Vasoline out of my head.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 04, 2015, 07:52:46 PM



http://observer.com/2015/12/my-friend-scott-weiland-has-died/

Brilliantly written.


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Can't get Vasoline out of my head.

Always dug Vasoline.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: feelsflow on December 04, 2015, 08:36:14 PM
I hate to see him go too.  He was an interesting cat.  He was one of the better Rock singers in the 90's. 


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 04, 2015, 10:22:59 PM
Diehards already know this, but for the casual fans..

For all the grief STP got when Core came out, saying they were rip offs of Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains...

this is the 1990 version of Wicked Garden, a full year before Pearl Jam released their first album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=952e35lDpgY

i.e. BEFORE 'grunge' became a thing.

*drops mic*


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: bluesno1fann on December 05, 2015, 06:27:32 AM
I must admit that while I am aware of him and his work with STP and Velvet Revolver, I'm not familiar with music at all. But this news is indeed tragic in any case. May he rest in peace.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ppk700 on December 05, 2015, 01:36:48 PM
My all time favorite Weiland vocals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18g8McJFQbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwS_Eu-HLZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEkpZnc4dFc

I had never even heard that first one, "About A Fool". The other 2 I am quite familiar with, those are beautiful songs. I LOVE "Shangri-La Dee Da". An extremely underrated album.

Very nice selections here.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ppk700 on December 05, 2015, 01:48:18 PM
If I were to compile my favorite songs with Scott Weiland (these are all STP and VR) onto one CD, this would be it. They're not in any particular order, just songs I'd personally consider "essential"...

Church On Sunday
Adhesive
Wonderful
Sour Girl
Mary, Mary
Crackerman
Take A Load Off
I Got You
Too Cool Queenie
Seven Caged Tigers
You Got No Right
Unglued
Cinnamon
She Builds Quick Machines
And So I Know
Dumb Love

But there are so many more great songs, too... what a legacy.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 05, 2015, 02:08:37 PM
My all time favorite Weiland vocals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18g8McJFQbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwS_Eu-HLZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEkpZnc4dFc

I had never even heard that first one, "About A Fool". The other 2 I am quite familiar with, those are beautiful songs. I LOVE "Shangri-La Dee Da". An extremely underrated album.

Very nice selections here.


About a Fool dated from the SLDD sessions...same time as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4cpDJ3ulMY  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiFzJA0_mD8     and  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgt4q_dg0Ec    .

Why they weren't released is beyond me. Same with the cover of 'In My Room' (recorded during the sessions for Purple).


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 05, 2015, 02:11:39 PM
If I were to compile my favorite songs with Scott Weiland (these are all STP and VR) onto one CD, this would be it. They're not in any particular order, just songs I'd personally consider "essential"...

Church On Sunday
Adhesive
Wonderful
Sour Girl
Mary, Mary
Crackerman
Take A Load Off
I Got You
Too Cool Queenie
Seven Caged Tigers
You Got No Right
Unglued
Cinnamon
She Builds Quick Machines
And So I Know
Dumb Love

But there are so many more great songs, too... what a legacy.

Great list! I LOVED Shangri La Di Da...some days it's my favorite STP album.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ppk700 on December 05, 2015, 04:34:09 PM
My all time favorite Weiland vocals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18g8McJFQbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwS_Eu-HLZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEkpZnc4dFc

I had never even heard that first one, "About A Fool". The other 2 I am quite familiar with, those are beautiful songs. I LOVE "Shangri-La Dee Da". An extremely underrated album.

Very nice selections here.


About a Fool dated from the SLDD sessions...same time as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4cpDJ3ulMY  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiFzJA0_mD8     and  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgt4q_dg0Ec    .

Why they weren't released is beyond me. Same with the cover of 'In My Room' (recorded during the sessions for Purple).

Wow, those are some great songs right there... the only one I'd heard before was Samba Nova, as a bonus track from the 2010 self-titled, but I thought it was another new song then.

Once some time has passed, I think a Stone Temple Pilots boxset of some type is very much called for. Gather all those rarities, B-sides, unreleased songs, maybe some live cuts... heck, I'd love a live compilation similar to Nirvana's "From The Muddy Banks..." or Alice In Chains' "Live".

Scott is leaving behind such a legacy, such a great body of work. He will be sorely missed and he certainly went too soon. I shed a few tears yesterday, but I'm going to celebrate his life and his music. He really gave us everything he had.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ppk700 on December 05, 2015, 04:49:44 PM
If I were to compile my favorite songs with Scott Weiland (these are all STP and VR) onto one CD, this would be it. They're not in any particular order, just songs I'd personally consider "essential"...

Church On Sunday
Adhesive
Wonderful
Sour Girl
Mary, Mary
Crackerman
Take A Load Off
I Got You
Too Cool Queenie
Seven Caged Tigers
You Got No Right
Unglued
Cinnamon
She Builds Quick Machines
And So I Know
Dumb Love

But there are so many more great songs, too... what a legacy.

Great list! I LOVED Shangri La Di Da...some days it's my favorite STP album.

"Shangri..." was my favorite for a long time, but lately I dig "Tiny Music..." just slightly more. Ahhh... they're all so good, though...


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 05, 2015, 05:22:57 PM
My all time favorite Weiland vocals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18g8McJFQbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwS_Eu-HLZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEkpZnc4dFc

I had never even heard that first one, "About A Fool". The other 2 I am quite familiar with, those are beautiful songs. I LOVE "Shangri-La Dee Da". An extremely underrated album.

Very nice selections here.


About a Fool dated from the SLDD sessions...same time as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4cpDJ3ulMY  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiFzJA0_mD8     and  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgt4q_dg0Ec    .

Why they weren't released is beyond me. Same with the cover of 'In My Room' (recorded during the sessions for Purple).

Wow, those are some great songs right there... the only one I'd heard before was Samba Nova, as a bonus track from the 2010 self-titled, but I thought it was another new song then.

Once some time has passed, I think a Stone Temple Pilots boxset of some type is very much called for. Gather all those rarities, B-sides, unreleased songs, maybe some live cuts... heck, I'd love a live compilation similar to Nirvana's "From The Muddy Banks..." or Alice In Chains' "Live".

Scott is leaving behind such a legacy, such a great body of work. He will be sorely missed and he certainly went too soon. I shed a few tears yesterday, but I'm going to celebrate his life and his music. He really gave us everything he had.

Heed the Water Whisperer actually was a No.4 outtake (along with Learning to Drive, which later showed up on Scott's 'Happy in Galoshes' as 'Beautiful Day'), but the rest were originally from SLDD ,which was originally supposed to be a double album.

Sadly, they have *very* few studio outtakes. Generally, if they recorded it, they released it!  One notable exception was a series of Beach Boys covers recorded around the Purple sessions. 'In My Room' was the only one that was finished, but supposedly 'I Just Wasn't Made for these Times' and a few others (no titles known) were recorded at that time. None have surfaced (nor been booted).

Also, 'Hello it's Late' was originally recorded during Purple, but re-recorded during the SLDD sessions (and with new lyrics).

Very surprised they never released a live album during their heyday. I have a feeling if a box ever came out, it would be mainly live tracks.

Not going to lie...I shed more than my fair share of tears the past couple of days. Weiland was my favorite artist save Brian Wilson, and one of my dreams was to produce him.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 05, 2015, 05:24:31 PM
If I were to compile my favorite songs with Scott Weiland (these are all STP and VR) onto one CD, this would be it. They're not in any particular order, just songs I'd personally consider "essential"...

Church On Sunday
Adhesive
Wonderful
Sour Girl
Mary, Mary
Crackerman
Take A Load Off
I Got You
Too Cool Queenie
Seven Caged Tigers
You Got No Right
Unglued
Cinnamon
She Builds Quick Machines
And So I Know
Dumb Love

But there are so many more great songs, too... what a legacy.

Great list! I LOVED Shangri La Di Da...some days it's my favorite STP album.

"Shangri..." was my favorite for a long time, but lately I dig "Tiny Music..." just slightly more. Ahhh... they're all so good, though...


I'd go...

Tiny Music
Purple
Shangri La Di Da
No. 4
Core
Self-Titled



Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 05, 2015, 05:45:01 PM
Wonderful write-up (and surprised it mentioned him being raped at 12, in that despite it being in his book, many people still aren't aware)


http://buffalo.com/2015/12/04/featured/an-open-letter-to-scott-weiland-so-this-is-where-it-ends/


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: Emily on December 05, 2015, 07:05:14 PM
Thanks for the playlist, Fear 2 Stop, I'd never taken the time to explore his catalog. Sad that it took this to prompt me. Been listening all day.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 05, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
Thanks for the playlist, Fear 2 Stop, I'd never taken the time to explore his catalog. Sad that it took this to prompt me. Been listening all day.


His catalog of work (both with bands and solo) is great to listen to. There's a reason why he was my favorite non-BB related artist!


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: Jay on December 05, 2015, 10:43:17 PM
I can't get this out of my head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhkwcu-k83w


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 05, 2015, 11:03:57 PM
Yes!!! I always thought in this and 'Song for Sleeping' he sounded a bit like young Dennis.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: SMiLE Brian on December 06, 2015, 01:15:11 PM
SIP did a cover of In my room?


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 06, 2015, 06:14:24 PM
Yeah, but it was very skeletal from what I've been told. I've never heard it.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: Alex on December 07, 2015, 01:36:36 AM
My all time favorite Weiland vocals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18g8McJFQbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwS_Eu-HLZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEkpZnc4dFc

I was never big into the early grungy stuff, but I think I'm going to check out some of STP's later stuff now thanks to hearing those tracks.


48 is way too young to go.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 09, 2015, 11:42:47 PM
My all time favorite Weiland vocals...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18g8McJFQbk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwS_Eu-HLZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEkpZnc4dFc

I was never big into the early grungy stuff, but I think I'm going to check out some of STP's later stuff now thanks to hearing those tracks.


48 is way too young to go.

It's funny...Core had much of STP's best known stuff...and it's probably their weakest album, save their 2010 album. Generally, the radio hits were the weakest material. Sounds like a certain band this board is devoted to, huh? :lol


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: Ron on December 10, 2015, 12:28:35 AM
When I was a teenager, I only listened to classic rock & roll, up until probably 12 years old or so.  I didn't listen to anything modern... then for awhile, I only listened to modern country.  So when I was about 13, I had some friends and was opening up a little bit, they listened of course to all the modern stuff. 

I used to walk to a girl's house and her mother would drive the two of us to school every morning.  So I'd always get there, and sit down, and be there for 10 minutes or so before we left... and casually watch the t.v.

One morning, it was on MTV, and they were playing the video for "Plush".  It , as you can imagine, blew my mind.  It was so out of the way from what I usually enjoyed listening to, but yet I absolutely loved it.  Thought it was the greatest thing I'd ever seen!

So a year or so goes by, and I moved.  That whole summer I was pretty isolated, playing a lot of video games.  When school started, I had a couple nerdy friends that I ate lunch with, but in general we were all loners.

And then it happened.  One of my nerdy friends was telling us about this really beautiful girl he had met in one of his classes... and like magic, there she was across the cafeteria!  Wow, he wasn't kidding, so pretty.  For two or three days we scoped her out.  She ate lunch with a big guy we later discovered wasn't her boyfriend... but her brother!

So after a few days, this pretty young lady came over to say hi to our friend that was in her class... and we discovered that she (and her brother) were also kind of outsiders, they didn't quite fit in either regardless of how pretty she was.  She had a Sony CD walkman that she carried with her everywhere she went, and her favorite music at the time was the Stone Temple Pilots!  She really liked "Wicked Garden" so of course I soon did too.  I wasn't really completely into it, but she made me want to be more into it. 




The story gets much better from there, but I've often marveled at the fact that people like Scott Weiland cannot possibly understand or even comprehend their immense contribution to the world.  His music made me and my friends very happy, it helped me fall in love once.  He didn't know that, he couldn't have known it... but what I know is that i'm not the only one.  That's just my little story, I imagine there are hundreds of thousands of similar ones. 

God bless you Scott. 


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 10, 2015, 09:11:23 PM
Was watching this earlier, and it made me cry. This was during a period where he had been clean for about a year (drugs AND drinking) and was probably at his vocal peak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk6WRG1yQpg


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: Jay on December 10, 2015, 09:15:26 PM
Was watching this earlier, and it made me cry. This was during a period where he had been clean for about a year (drugs AND drinking) and was probably at his vocal peak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk6WRG1yQpg
I remember seeing that on tv when it aired. At one point during the show he announced that he'd been sober for a certain amount of time. It looked like he'd finally straightened out.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 10, 2015, 09:34:34 PM
He went through several periods, longest probably from 2004-2007. When his brother Michael died, it triggered a relapse for a bit. He was never quite the same, and although he abstained from illegal drugs for the most part after that until some point before his death (I've heard different things, but the consensus seems to be roughly a week before),  he became a heavy alcoholic and was on so much medication (mostly legit) that he was a shell of his former self.


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: Jay on December 10, 2015, 10:28:56 PM
I know that this was taken during a really dark period in Scott's life, but there is something about this video that I find endlessly fascinating.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxB7f58vii4


Title: Re: RIP Scott Weiland
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 10, 2015, 10:39:55 PM
Fun fact...Sheryl Crow played accordian on that track.