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Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzqHxQ9SrvY

These things are always so fun and funny.

 ;D :lol ;D

Heh, love that shot from the C50 tour with Mr. Love in his Sunday finest and BW watching him.

Post of the month!! Thanks, SB!! :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot

A bit hurtful and very disrespectful.

Watch out.....Lovester might drop a lawsuit for that song using the same I-vi-IV-V progression that "Pisces Brothers" uses, as well as a few lyrical quotes!  :wink

Yes very disrespectful exspecially if we are all supposedy are Beach Boys fans on here. If people dont like Mike Loves voice then i dont see how they can even be beach boys fans. He is the lead vocalist of the Beach Boys. Im sure most of the people here sparked their interested with the beach boys starting off with the beach boys early car and surfing hits with Love on lead and co-lyricist. its one thing to dislike him for sueing Brian to get his credit on the song he wrote (Which he had to do insted of talking it out with Brian because Brian was not in control of his money at this point) But it is another when people spread this anti Mike Hate crap! It is not necessary and will not change any of the past. You are a hypocrite to call yourslef a huge Beach Boys fan and spread all this Mike Hate crap all over the web! I am new to here but a long time beach boys fan but I have not seen one Mike Love topic that dose not have a swarm of people hating on him! Its one thing to joke around but people here go way beyond that. Enough is enough lets just talk positive about everyone in the band we love.  :)

Yeah, it's kind of what happens when anything gets posted about Mike Love on the internet. Have you seen youtube comments or the comments underneath news articles? For SOME obscure reason he seems to rub a lot of people the wrong way. At least here he has some fanatical defenders and bass vocal enthusiasts!

YES! Its bad and its the most random anit hate saying too. totally has nothing to do with Mike love or he song. I posted this video of the correct speed of Mike Loves Alone On Christmas Day and a few pointless coments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSFn2ZU6q0 I asked nicely if you dont have nothing good to say about the band or Mike Love to please not post at all so then he slams another pointless meaningless immature. I think these people just dissapointed in Mike action but love his leads and vocals so much but are just trying to hid it by saying what they do.

Mike and Brian past problems are family issue and should not have anything to do with the music they make. We all have some sort of familly issues. Its just their lives are so publicised compaired to ours. and anyones family problems are hard for the outsiders (in this case all beach boys fan) to understand.

Im sure if the roles were switched Brian would also want to get his fair share of the royallties and credit of his songs. Im sure the same with everyone including the Mike Hate spamers would do the same if it means they get rightful credit and millions of dollars in royalties!

Mike Love is awesome, a great singer, and a fine human being. 

Coincidentally, before checking in tonight i was just listening to the PONO 24/192 master of LIVE IN LONDON (which sounds incredible) and found myself wincing yet again during his painful "mock swish" intro to "Wake the World" (and throughout the entire album actually) - and viscerally remembered suffering through variations of that same embarrassing shtick all those years in concert (remember bringing your non-fan friends to shows during these excruciating moments?)

And then, of course, they launch right into that beautiful blend like no other.

That's the Mike Love conundrum (with no hi-hat) right there.

It's actually got a nice languid, drugged out vibe. A Smiley Smile for the new millennium.

On and on, he goes dum bee doo dah
On and on, he goes dum bee doo
On and on, he goes dum bee doo dah
On and on, he goes dum bee doo.

See you...in court, he told me
See you in court (dum bee doo)
I'll see him...in court, I know I'll
See him in court, for sure he'll
Drag me... to court, I know he'll
Drag me to court, (dum bee doo) [GO]

On and on, we go dum bee doo dah
On and on, we go dum bee doo...

I'm all for making fun of anything and everything if it's actually funny but that link was about as amusing as finding you have blood in your piss.

Yeah, yeah we get it. You only lasted 20 seconds, blah blah blah. I'm sure the songwriter would've been more concerned if you liked it, really.

Mike Love is the lead vocalist on a plurality of BB songs, perhaps the majority, but there's plenty of room to be a Beach Boys fan without being fond of Mike Love's vocals or lyrics. I've been doing so lo, these many years...though of course I do appreciate his bass in the mix.

Couldn't agree more.

Couldn't agree more too.

Well, it's a shame you all "can't see how [people] can even be Beach Boys fans" without liking Mike Love's voice, but it happens.

Yeah, poor, poor pitiful myKe luHv. I mean think about it, man. The time he has to waste managing his portfolio. And then there's the endless plotting about how he can dump the br00thster or drag Brian through the courts again to spiff up the bottom line.  And all that alimony!! How can you not feel for the guy while he counts his millions every other day??  :tm :tm

Well said.  

 :woot :woot

Yeah whatever. But what's the point of hyping anti Mike Love crap like this? (Not you, others did).

The "Mike rubs people the wrong way" argument is absurd, coming from grown up fans who should know better.   

What is absurd about Mike being egotistical and rude, that's how he presents himself in interviews.

 :deadhorse

myKe luHv keeping the world well informed of Brian's drug problems and of his own massive accomplishments in the group.  ::)

It's like the worst of modern day British music with third-rate Adrian Baker imitative "innovation" on top of it. It's like Spiritualized and U2 had a baby.

"It sounds like an epitaph!" - John Densmore

Is that similar to the constant reminders on here about Mike's embarrassing speech at the RNRHOF?  Or the failure of the Summer in Paradise album? 

In his own insidious mind! ::)

Shall I reply now or wait until you've re-edited your post another half a dozen times?

Stupid.

Beard, I have no idea what you're babbling about or why I'm supposed to feel insulted. It's just a silly song about Mike Love and I've lost track of whatever dumb sh*t you're bitter about.

He is bitter Mike didn't point at him during M&B's bar band rendition of surf's up.

I'm not bitter about jack boys, sounds like you are the ones with the hang ups. Maybe you should seek some therapy time to get to the root of why you're so obsessed with Mike Love?

Tedious stuff, Beard. Matching wits with you is like swapping bon mots with empty pizza boxes, so pardon me if I take a pass on your ridiculous bait. Have a nice day!

Oooops, I think I touched a nerve.

Look who is talking since you are obsessively following Mike Love's online PR manager.

That old chestnut.

Touched a nerve? You're just trying to make this personal and get insulting so the thread gets locked. Hopefully then no one will ever make fun of Mike Love again or something. Good luck with that one!

Remember Ontor, love always wins! ::)

Welcome to the SSMB

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Days since the last out of control Mike Love thread.  

Poor Mike Love is just a "victim of circumstance" as Curly put it. Once all of his critics are in therapy, the world will realize his true genius and properly credit him for exploiting the license for decades. Admittedly this rehabilitation projection is going a lot slower than the History Rewrite Dept. anticipated, but once that Christmas single comes out EVERYTHING WILL CHANGE!

Anyway, thought it was a funny song. Loved the "even though we never wanted to go" line. Spiritualized puts on a helluva live show when they bring the choir, too. Definitely recommended. I'd pass on U2 tho. I'm allergic to The Edge.

OK, you guys win! It was a really funny video, easily within my top 43 all time Beach Boys parody songs! "Nurse, my sides!".
Happy now?  :p

I bet it already got more airplay than pisces brothers......

OK, I know I'm going to regret this post........Here it goes.........

Just in case I get banned, it's been fun fun fun...........

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I'm not going to pretend that Pisces Brother is a work of art.  But let's not sit here and pretend that Brian doesn't have more than a few clunkers in his resume. 

 :lol

Why would you get banned? Smart Girls is completely ridiculous. People mock NPP and all the JT stuff all the time on this board, they still get to regale us with their opinions. Do you feel like you are being stifled somehow?

Almost any thread criticizing Mike Love gets a "yeah well if Brian did this..." Or SJS will slither in with some weird resentment about Brian Wilson not getting enough sh*t. He's still here. So what's this bullshit about being banned? They are public figures, they've been mocked and criticized for decades. Love quite a bit more because he scores higher on standardized jerkoff tests. Painful but true. I've seen the numbers.

I mean, nobody ever put out a song called "f*** You, Brian Wilson." http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FKGjv1Y6Zsg

Just trying to lighten the mood.  I wasn't expecting to actually get banned because I dared to say that not everything with Brian Wilson's name on it is pure gold. 

Sheesh.

Hey, you really can't blame me for taking it at face value. People DO post stuff like that. Especially on threads poking fun at Mike Love.

Thou shalt not draw criticism towards the recorded works of Brian Wilson..... ever.  ;)

I didn't really think I'd get banned. 

The worst I was expecting is some of the barrage of hate that sometimes comes on here when you criticize the work of Brian Wilson.  (I've seen some ridiculous things posted over the last six months when somebody says they don't like the No Pier Pressure album). 

So you guys aren't seeing at all how you're being defensive about Mike Love, then? Not even a BIT? C'mon, squint. Hint: subject of this thread.

Soooo fun and funny!!

We should call it "Funny Fun" because it's a bunt instead of a grand slam.

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I'm a genius too, you know.

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol  :lol

yeah, Cam. We heard you the first time. You weren't funny then either.

You know how you handle stuff you don't like? You ignore it so it sinks. Not keep it pinned to the top of the page because you have to defend the Lovester's honor. He'll survive!

Mr. Pertawst,

I basically jumped on this thread because I agreed with another poster who asked why can't we be fans of both Mike Love and Brian Wilson (I'm paraphrasing.  The post was much better worded).  

I get it.   Mike can be a douche bag sometimes.  

What bothers me is when people try to diminish Mike's contribution to The Beach Boys or when people, who've never bought a ticket, unfairly criticize the current Beach Boys touring band.  

And it goes both ways.  I've seen people write things on this board, criticized Brian, or one of his albums, and that person immediately has "an agenda."  

I'm a fan of Mike Love, Brian Wilson, Carl Wilson, Dennis Wilson, Al Jardine, David Marks, Bruce Johnston, Blondie Chaplin, and Ricky Fataar.  So, I'm not taking anybody's side.  

I'm not offended by the content of this song or the comedy sketch that was posted a week or so ago, I'm offended at the poor quality and total lack of humor involved. Even the biggest fans of Mike Love must admit the guy is an easy target given the interviews and personal conduct he has exhibited over the past five decades, but these attempts at humor are equally as unfunny as the "Barbara Ann" parody we were subjected to recently.

If the Mike haters truly believe this is high comedy, I have to question their taste.

Yes, it's all about the music and all of them are equal. It's funny how this sentiment only comes up when it's people poking fun at Mike Love. You never see vicious attacks on Al Jardine's Beach Boys Family and Friends debacle greeted with "but I love all of them equally!" Nobody ever bashes Brian Wilson and gets that response. "I hate those guys from The Flame! Those albums they were on sucked!" never inspires this sort of Beach Boys Talent Equivalency drive. For some reason it's only the Mike-mocking that generates that kind of thing... why not just say, "I love Mike Love and I'm a big fan of what he does and I'm not standing for this! He's had more baseball caps than you've had hot dinners and I'm willing to fight about it!" Don't bring poor Carl and Dennis' ghosts into this.

I know it's painful for the things you love to be made fun of by strangers. But you have to admit, deep down, Mike kinda brings it all upon himself... and has time and time again. Part of the cost of doing business, I guess. I'm sure he lives with it just fine. So take a page from Mike's book, then. Maybe accuse your relatives of being on drugs too, that's always endearing.

I think Cam Mott is high comedy.

Not being defensive towards the guy at all, the clip just wasn't funny. If it was funny I would have laughed.

What Marty just said.

I know but you guys think it is soooo fun and funny too, it bears three-peating!!! Don't worry about me, I don't mind repeating it.

I know, right. I would never aspire to be as fun and funny (#4) as this thing. It is Pickle Brothers funny.  Hey! You guys probably want to petition BRI for a Pickles Brothers comedy album. This is that fun and funny! (#5)

Pickle Brothers funny fun!!!

Cam, I think the Pickle Brothers' only fan was Mike Love. You might want to try a new act. Juggling, maybe? Comedy ain't your forte.

I dont think people understand that Mike and Brian are cousins and even today they both respect each other and dont have all this hate for one another. Just recently Brian said in an interview Mike Love was the best lyricist he has ever worked with!

People are missing out so much when they will refuse to enjoy any of Mike Love related music of the beach boys or enjoy or respect Mike and Bruce doing 100s of conserts a year! They give 110% AT EACH and everyone they do! I agree it would be awesome if Brian would join them! I would love for that! but until then just enjoy the music and respect they guys! We are lucky these guys are still playing are giving us new musics both Brian and Mike & Bruce!

Right,  fair enough.

 I'm not a fan of your humor either.  Maybe we could be a juggling duo.

is there an alternate universe?
One  where Mike didn't hear "akem salem" - and he 's still waiting. Brian puts on the gravitas Hollyorb Hornrims for giving out a speech. Instead of just a simple lasik procedure that allows him the use high-resolution video monitors. Carl took the time ou tfor one last shave , one last time for all those of us who needed to know what Carl Wilson might've looked like  at all times in his life without a beard. Would David Marks have received a royalty check for his his vocal work on "Sumer Time bluesues" - thus leaving him with enough bread enough for bread and the bread to have flown in and  taken bread wih the rest of he band. joined the chorus of Shafferian Love-mockery - obligato. Would DenNis have beeen somehing something> ?

Food for thought, anyway.

Honestly, I was actually hoping to hear a new Mike Love song.  :shrug

I know it's all opinion and such but I can't understand anyone not finding that 'the special' sketch funny.

Ripped me apart.

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I know it's all opinion and such but I can't understand anyone not finding that 'the special' sketch funny.
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Double negative!



I was hoping it was a new song by Mike too! maybe his new Alone On Christmas Day single coming out!

Probably not the place to post this…

THINGS I LOVE ABOUT THE BEACH BOYS:

Brian and Mike writing songs that distil a generation and a moment in time, the crazily efficient and intense output of the early era. The story of family and relationships at the start.

Brian conceiving THAT change in cultural shift and being so open as to explore it at the forefront. Just thinking about Pet Sounds or SMiLE could blow your mind. Rejected and a failure on release (or not) only to be widely lauded as some of the greatest works of 20th century popular music and ahead of their time.

Brian saying 'f*** it' and the boys carrying on. Pulling together as a team to produce some amazing songs that stand on their own. Trying to re-work SMiLE, trying to keep it all together amongst dwindling sales

Love You, Adult/Child where Brian just wrote anything, the crazy ideas and feelings in those albums

The C50 Tour and TWGMTR - having everyone back together and cashing in on a massive tour to keep fans happy and writing some very decent tunes

Brian crazy solo stuff, Sweet Insanity et al

WHAT I DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE BEACH BOYS

Post Love You to reunion….to be honest when Mike took over, Baywatch and Still Crusin' stuff just makes me cringe and kinda embarrassed

Mike's stage image and general personality, ever.

Brian's boring MOR tracks that feel phoned in and overproduced.

Legal squabbles


 I guess what I'm saying is this:
                                                 I don't hate Mike Love. I can see his influence in the early days and the songwriting partnership from the early 60's. No Mike = No Beach Boys (literally and legally).  But I guess the high point for my enjoyment of the bands music and story seem to revolve around Brian being kind of unleashed and creative. It's like a classic story of creative vs commercial and I'm always going to fall on the side of creative, personally. Especially when pretty much everyone involved is a multi-millionaire.

 As for Mr Love. He's very easy to poke fun at and he makes it very hard to like him sometimes. I hold everyone up to ridicule and can laugh at some of Brian's creative efforts and quotes, I guess everyone is just a person at the end of the day and I hold no-one ill will.

But it's still good to take the piss sometimes….

Comedy is certainly subjective, but I did not find that improv group to be particularly good. Give the same source material to a competent improv group and you have a homerun. Again, it's all opinion, but I think I have finally found some folks that bought tickets to Dumb and Dumber To.

Makes sense. 

Hey, this song is a big phony baloney. Mike didn't say those things.

If we can't all agree on whether Mike was, for instance, the main force behind the 2012 reunion breaking up, and if we can't agree on whether Brian used autotune on NPP, then it's just a big hornet's nest to try to all agree on the hugely subjective topic of what's funny or not funny. Seriously.

Similar to how a cogent, thoughtful, respectful article delving into the intensely interesting topic of why Mike is so reviled could be written yet rarely or never is, so too could a truly biting, stinging, yet funny parody of Mike be written, yet rarely or never is. (And yes, we're talking something with a bit more bite than, say, Fallon's Beach Boys sketch; we're talking something that Mike wouldn't want to play on the video screen at his shows).

My take on this video is that it was a rather labored, largely unfunny bit. Almost unintentionally, I thought the one part with the nasal whine with no on-screen words and only a ".........." followed by simply singing "surfin'" was kind of funny and the only part that kind of correctly nailed the sort of parody that could be done.

It's probably still on YouTube somewhere, but several years ago there was some metal band that had literally recorded a song called "F*** You Mike Love" that was so ridiculously over the top that it was kind of funny. At one point the guy starts running though all the people he does like. "We likes you Carl Wilson, we likes you Dennis Wilson, we likes you Al Jardine, we even likes you Al Jarreau, but f*** you Mike Love!" I remember almost finding it more funny that it didn't appear to be a YouTube-specific song rant. It was like an actual album cut that some band had done.

People can say what they want about Goin to the Beach or Pisces Brother, but for me, the low point of the Mike & Bruce (& David) show I saw two months ago was when we were subjected to 15 seconds of the Jimmy Fallon Fun Fun Fun parody. 

Now, I don't wanna go off on a rant here...

But the next time Jimmy Fallon makes me laugh will be the first.  He jumped on board SNL when that ship started sinking, and become notorious for cracking up during sketches.  Laughing during a sketch can be funny when it happens once in a while (ie.  Phil Hartman losing it during a Tarzan, Tonto, and Frankenstein bit), but when that is your claim to fame?

Then, he parlayed being a notable on a weak SNL cast into a brief, unsuccessful movie career. 

Now, he's on late night talk, and his idea of comedy is playing beer pong with guests and doing unfunny song parodies (repeating hamburger stand over and over again is neither funny nor clever). 

Maybe it's a generational thing.  I'm a part of Generation X.  We had a Ghostbusters starring Bill Murray and Dan Aykroyd.  We had Johnny Carson, David Letterman (in his prime), and Jay Leno.  We had The Simpsons in its prime.  We had Seinfeld. 

Poor Generation Y.  They get a Ghostbusters with Melissa McCarthy.  Jimmy Fallon is the king of late night.  They have Bob's Burgers.  But, they seem to like it. 

That's just my opinion....I could be wrong. 

I thought the Fallon bit was relatively funny (Kevin Bacon was actually the most annoying anachronism; playing his bass down by his crotch like a 90s grunge band bass player).

I otherwise am not interested in Fallon. I 100% understand why he's popular. He doesn't do talk shows in the old mold (and that old mold is far from perfect and open to criticism as well; I don't romanticize Carson either), he produces sketches and bits that are intended as YouTube clips. Literally. He has gone beyond just doing fluffy, non-substantive interviews and goes straight to playing drunk party games with celebrities. I did read an interview with Fallon not too long ago, and he's at least honest in that he admits he will not do anything to challenge or confront guests (even politicians) on his show. He wants them to feel all fuzzy and warm and comfortable on his show.

Those looking for parody with a bit more bite aren't going to find it with Fallon, as evidenced by the fact that one of the main targets of his Beach Boys joke started playing the video at his concerts. (Mike wasting time at his shows playing YouTube clips is a whole other issue. As I said at the time, I'm just glad the BBs didn't use video screens on stage in the 80s and 90s, otherwise we almost surely would have gotten "Full House" clips).

Hey Jude - here is an oversimpification...When there are problems in any organization, political or otherwise, a scape goat is always sought out. And frankly, it defies logic as to why people would invest so much talent, time and energy to attack a person, which could surely be invested in doing good and being productive.  If you don't like someone, just move along and find someone you do.  If anyone doesn't like Mike, which is anyone's prerogative, who cares?  But to while away one's days and nights churning hate is a non-productive use of time. 

We have people in this world, who are hungry, homeless, kids who are parentless, people getting beheaded daily, gay people being thrown off towers, and others who must have little to do, creating videos attacking a figure in music whose career is over the 50 year mark.  This "activism" might be better harnassed to do good in the world.  Just sayin'  ;)

You seem to be overly concerned about people's use of their time. Maybe they need you to tell them exactly how to use it and thus have a much better world. If someone wants to spend time making a video about a public figure, then that's fine whether it be myKe luHv or the Pope. The point is that it drew out laughter for some and there's is nothing inherently wrong with that but I'll wager that most here watched it in full, didn't they? I'm sure the luhvster will still continue to survive despite this blip and that he and we should be ready for more of them to follow.

Mike doesn't have a problem with someone making a video poking fun at him; he played the video at his concerts.

If we exclusively pay attention to the things in your last paragraph, then this board shouldn't even exist and this conversation shouldn't be happening (and Mike should be playing a PSA at his shows instead of playing a comedy sketch video). It's a common tactic to wait until someone says something *you* don't like, and then conveniently produce the "there are people starving somewhere in the world" argument. I've seen that argument for over 20 years on the internet and thought we had moved past it, but clearly not. 99.9% of discussions on the internet shouldn't exist if we're only supposed to do productive, altruistic, meaningful things with our time.  

Separately, and this doesn't apply particularly to Mike Love, I would argue that simply "moving on" and ignoring something/someone you don't like isn't always appropriate. Parody and satire have often been effective tools in criticizing people/movements/organizations, etc.

And if we're supposed to ignore things you don't agree with and just move on and do something more productive, why post in this thread?

Well, OSD - not really.  This was not a new video - since it was posted about 5 months ago.  And this has gone on for four pages.

You must remember the days when Brian was the butt of many jokes and speculation when he left the road. And Brian wasn't there to defend himself.   I found it as unfunny hearing "rumors" of Brian's "status" as I do watching "wannabe's"  (and those who have second hand knowledge are exactly that) creating videos when much is 30 year old gossip and innuendo.  And as much as they have a right to create what I consider garbage, I have a right to opine that it is exactly that.  Garbage.  ;)

Hey Jude - yes, he played the clip, and, I saw it at some show. It wasn't all about Mike but a general parody. We (in a free society) like that and fight for that as a democratic principle. 

But, some here have a "focused" agenda that is analogous to political "party lines." It is like the retold joke.  Once, maybe twice, it is funny, then, it is old.  It becomes a nagging harangue. 

"Love is Caps"👳🏼

I would argue Fallon's clip was a parody of the lyrics of "Fun Fun Fun", which pretty directly targets Mike (whether Fallon knows or cares that Mike wrote lyrics, I don't know), and then parodies Mike's era-specific dance moves and stage persona. Beyond that, it certainly is a generic parody of the era and of that type of music in general. But every other "Beach Boy" in the clip is generic and is simply there to fill space on the stage.

Make no mistake, Fallon's bit didn't really have any bite, and as I've alluded to regarding Fallon, he seems unwilling to do anything but a purely good-natured comedy bit. For what it was, I thought it was funny. He surprisingly nailed Mike's stage persona of that era pretty well, and I think the song itself (which obviously I like) is ripe for that sort of parody. It is repetitious and infamously continually rhymes "now" with "now" over and over.

Unfortunately, your taste in comedy or your sense of humor or your sense of when comedy has an "agenda" versus being done for pure comedic value, all of those things can't be used as any sort of measuring stick. I could just as easily say your (or anybody's) distaste for a piece of comedy is fueled by bias and an agenda.

Brian has had fun poked at him, and arguably insensitively (Tim Robbins on SNL; a good impersonation, but obviously in retrospect Brian was in a pretty dicey situation at the time; so can we still laugh at that clip? Maybe, maybe not). I've heard as many "Brian is out of it" references and jokes from casual fans (and non fans) as I have heard references to Mike being an a-hole. Whether we like it or not, those are two of the non-music things the Beach Boys are most well-known for.

As always, there are truths and lies about the BBs (or anyone) everywhere. But usually, a widespread notion is not *completely* off the mark. People continually reference Brian being out of it. We as fans know the more detailed story, but I certainly see *why* some people have that perception of Brian. Similarly, is Mike misunderstood, and does understanding him require more context? Absolutely. But so many people having so much contempt for him is not 100% fabricated out of nothing. He does and says things that lead to these perceptions. If Mike cared about changing those perceptions, he wouldn't give "interviews" like the one he gave to David Beard earlier this year.

I found the Fallon sketch fairly funny but thought it outstayed it's welcome somewhat.
I've been laughing at the f*** U Mike Love song for years.
I thought the Hitler rant whilst listening to TWGMTR superb.
I find much of the Mike Love Photos thread to be very funny and have posted many myself (including the - to the best of my knowledge - only caption to be removed by the mods).

I'll laugh at anything I find funny, nothing's off limits to me. I'm a big fan of Mike but don't hold him up as a sacred cow (unlike certain people who are fans of other bandmembers).

However, this song, like the Mike and teenage girl sketch from the other week was just crap. Mike's bald! Mike sues people! Oh the hilarity! Surely unless you are one of the Gruesome Twosome it takes more than that to get a laugh?

Hey Jude - First, you have no idea what my "taste is" in comedy.  That is a judgment. You don't know me.

Second, one must achieve a certain level of status on some level, to become parodied.  Eg.  Larry David playing Bernie Sanders.  It is a certain recognition to be parodied.  Larry was funny, and reports are that Bernie was pleased that someone as esteemed in comedy would take him on for a parody.  In the late 60's and 70's when fans didn't see Brian, there were many unkind remarks made.  What I can tell you is that at any show, Mike and Carl would often tell the audience that Brian was working hard in the studio. No doubt those unkind comments had reached their ears and they were in "protection mode." There was always a reference to Brian's work. Maybe to try to shut these unkind rumors up...

Those interviews aren't falsehoods, and I say that because of some of what I've read here.  Some of those very personages have posted here about those "days." And bragged about it, treating the situation as one where the whole time frame of a dozen albums or so, never existed or that Brian had zero creative talent until he met "them."  After reading much, but not being an eyewitness, I sort of feel they treated Brian as their "experiment." And maybe Mike doesn't go "far enough" calling these people out as predators, while the group was on the road.  And maybe he takes a more reserved stance.  I found it galling to read a poster disparaging Marilyn, and admitting to conspiring to break up the marriage.

If Mike is being interviewed, someone is asking for his reflections, not yours or mine. He lived it.  And, it is nothing short of a miracle that Brian ever survived it all. Not many could. And it had to have hurt them all to see him like that. Dennis' interview conveys the exact same information, and says the same thing, with Peter Fornatale. But, Mike is treated differently. Today, if someone gave your kids a drug, you'd sue for damages. And they could end up in jail. Especially if they were vulnerable to begin with.  Was Brian vulnerable? I'm not a doc.

You could argue if your spouse was given a drug, and now wasn't the same as before, you would be damaged or harmed, because the relationship had suffered.  Tim Leary got fired for giving his students LSD at Harvard. From everything I've read, I think he was a predator. He should have gone to jail, instead of being allowed to experiment on prisoners and divinity students.  

Now, some jurisdictions are starting to go after drug dealers for murder, if their "customer" overdoses and dies.  Is a substance "recreational" if someone ends up damaged? So, I'm thinking another way...we don't agree.

Of course I don't know your taste in comedy, that's the point I'm trying to make! It's subjective to the point that you can't say one thing is "Okay" and the other is just an agenda-fueled conspiracy. The same goes for reactions to something like comedy; those reactions can be pure or agenda-fueled.

Personally, I'd say it's no coincidence that most people watched this stupid YouTube video and kind of responded "Meh" or "lame", etc., while a couple usual suspects thought it was HILARIOUS!!! and a couple usual suspects were comically overly-outraged and indignant about it.

Beyond the first line of your post, I'm can only respectfully offer that I have no idea what you're talking about. Timothy Leary?

Yup - during that horrible discussion a way back, I got to digging about that era.  Timothy Leary, was for a time, considered a celebrity.  What I learned was shocking to me.  And it was well worth the time to explore as much as I could to better understand what went on.  As people plumb the concept of quasi-medical experimentation on prisoners, or poor populations for drug companies, or students for money, they might find it as demonic as I do. 

Sorry if I was not clear. LSD has interesting multi-continental roots.

As far as the video, I found it lame.

It's a fillabuster for Mike Love's honor! ::)

Not really.  I'm just comparing a Dennis interview to the Mike one.

Although I'm flattered by your wit.  ;)

You went to college. It is just "compare and contrast."  :lol

I agree. I didn't find it funny.  I did find the "Gimme Some Doo" video hilarious but can't find it.

Give him some DUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZBQCWwAp9I

Cue pinched faces and "that's not funny" brigade.

That's the one! Cheers Ontor. :-D

Mike is an a-hole, Brian is crazy or mentally disabled, and Dennis hung out with Charles Manson-those are the big non-musical Beach Boy things you hear. Of those, Mike being called an a-hole is probably the least disturbing.

I've personally been over the "Mike Love is a Jerk" thing for quite some time. 

I've just looked for that, but couldn't find it. Even if it has no bite, does anyone have a link handy? Thank you in advance.

Here you go.  I've never been a fan of Jimmy Fallon, but I'll admit, he's got Mike's moves down pretty well. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKqgo-x780

OK, that's only mildly funny, agreed. The best thing about that clip is to see those guys enjoy themselves and to find that even in this configuration it's a great tune musically.

IMHO Fallon doesn't have Mike's moves good - if so, they would look even sillier! :-D Personally, I enjoy Mike's silly dancing. :)

Like in the Stamos thread, if somehow Fallon's bit turns some of his younger fans onto the original song and other BB material, I'm OK with it. 

I don't mind Mike's dancing that much either.  It's really no worse than Mick Jagger. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKqgo-x780 is that what you are looking for with jimmy fallon. I like the video fallon did a good job on this sketch


I also dont mind Mikes dancing. Its not great but it goofy and fun to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7IX39EKhl4 In that video he looks like good dancing around haha.

I'd rather listen to this

http://youtu.be/vfHEhuYYDM4

Until Fallon did this, I'd never really laughed out loud at his jokes.  He pretty much converted me with one clip.