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Title: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: HeyJude on October 26, 2015, 09:23:10 AM
The "Revolver Records" channel on YouTube have posted (complete with ugly watermark) a 1969 "promo film" for "I Can Hear Music" that I don't think we've seen in full before (other than presumably when it aired). I'm not up on every scrap of video/film that floats around, so I can't say how rare this is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bXb-F8ivLQ

This channel has somehow come up with some pretty rare Beatles stuff lately, so I figured this BB item might also actually be relatively rare. It's certainly not the "studio" promo film that floats around (repurposed for the "Time to Get Alone" segment in "An American Band", which was the actual song apparently being recorded), nor is it the Beat Club or other in-studio European TV show type of things they were doing on that tour.

I think bits and pieces of this are seen in "Endless Harmony" among possibly other places.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 26, 2015, 10:03:32 AM
Wow!  I've never seen that.  One of my favorite BB songs.  Thanks for posting!

Lee


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: chaki on October 26, 2015, 10:12:25 AM
whoa this footage! does anyone know where this was filmed?


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: SMiLE Brian on October 26, 2015, 10:13:06 AM
Great find Jude!


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Emdeeh on October 26, 2015, 10:14:15 AM
Gobsmacked! What a find!


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Doo Dah on October 26, 2015, 10:58:44 AM
Fantastic stuff! Never seen it before.

Bellagio mentions an Oct 2nd '68 session which was used for the 'I Can Hear Music' promo. Perhaps they just stepped outside for a quick romp through the park?


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: LeeDempsey on October 26, 2015, 11:24:14 AM
Fantastic stuff! Never seen it before.

Bellagio mentions an Oct 2nd '68 session which was used for the 'I Can Hear Music' promo. Perhaps they just stepped outside for a quick romp through the park?

I have it on good word that there are shots of the guys in these same outfits in the raw footage shot by Vic Kettle from the 1969 European tour.  More to come...

Lee


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: phirnis on October 26, 2015, 11:36:13 AM
Going to copy some of their dance moves.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: HeyJude on October 26, 2015, 11:38:26 AM
I can’t pull out “Endless Harmony” and watch right now, but was this footage/shoot also used for that little bit of footage seen near the end of “Endless Harmony” with Carl and Dennis getting up off the grass and leaving?

The “Revolver” channel on YouTube somehow has some pretty rare stuff. It got pulled down, but they had up some actual John Lennon 1980 studio footage (which seemed to be used in an unreleased version of the 1998 “I’m Losing You” promo video). They also posted clips from Furmanek’s unreleased 1992 “Let It Be” restoration, outtakes from the “Rain”, “Hello Goodbye”, and “Strawberry Fields Forever” promo films, and “Let It Be” outtake footage in color, different from the black and white stuff that has circulated for years.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Custom Machine on October 26, 2015, 11:49:54 AM
Really cool find. Thanks for posting the link. Wish Revolver TV used a much smaller logo.

Can anyone identify the exact filming location?

What is Al holding in his hand in the middle of the film? Looks like an alcoholic drink, like a screwdriver, with a plastic swizzle stick.



Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Custom Machine on October 26, 2015, 11:53:18 AM
Fantastic stuff! Never seen it before.

Bellagio mentions an Oct 2nd '68 session which was used for the 'I Can Hear Music' promo. Perhaps they just stepped outside for a quick romp through the park?

I have it on good word that there are shots of the guys in these same outfits in the raw footage shot by Vic Kettle from the 1969 European tour.  More to come...

Lee

Carl is wearing the same shirt in Dezo Hoffman's June 18, 1969 photo of the guys standing next to the Danube in Bratislava, Czechoslovakia.



Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: HeyJude on October 26, 2015, 12:16:14 PM
Really cool find. Thanks for posting the link. Wish Revolver TV used a much smaller logo.

Can anyone identify the exact filming location?

What is Al holding in his hand in the middle of the film? Looks like an alcoholic drink, like a screwdriver, with a plastic swizzle stick.



Unfortunately, “Revolver” is just watermarking something that they don’t own in the first place. It’s definitely a watermark sort of a thing, not just a “bug” in the corner of the screen like TV channels use. There was a big debate about the watermarks over on the Steve Hoffman board. If you think the watermark on this BB clip is bad, check out a few of the Beatles clips. In a number of them, the “Revolver” watermark stretches across the entire screen!


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: TonyW on October 26, 2015, 12:19:39 PM
Mike looks like he's on the magic mushrooms  :hat


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 26, 2015, 12:30:24 PM
I can’t pull out “Endless Harmony” and watch right now, but was this footage/shoot also used for that little bit of footage seen near the end of “Endless Harmony” with Carl and Dennis getting up off the grass and leaving?

The “Revolver” channel on YouTube somehow has some pretty rare stuff. It got pulled down, but they had up some actual John Lennon 1980 studio footage (which seemed to be used in an unreleased version of the 1998 “I’m Losing You” promo video). They also posted clips from Furmanek’s unreleased 1992 “Let It Be” restoration, outtakes from the “Rain”, “Hello Goodbye”, and “Strawberry Fields Forever” promo films, and “Let It Be” outtake footage in color, different from the black and white stuff that has circulated for years.

Was thinking of the EH doco myself. Like you its out of reach but isn't there a scene from another angle (side on) of the group jumping off a low wall? Can't recall if they are wearing summer or winter clothing.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Rentatris on October 26, 2015, 12:33:06 PM
I have to say, what a great find, really interesting.

 I find it really interesting to see how rudimentary the editing and camera work was. The evolution of filming music promos is absolutely fascinating to me....


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: CenturyDeprived on October 26, 2015, 12:34:44 PM
Super cool.

From a technical standpoint, I wonder how the band lip synced to the studio version for this. Was there a sound system blasting the record which they could hear the background and sing along to, in an attempt to time the singing to the recording?


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: HeyJude on October 26, 2015, 12:39:40 PM
I have to say, what a great find, really interesting.

 I find it really interesting to see how rudimentary the editing and camera work was. The evolution of filming music promos is absolutely fascinating to me....

It would be interesting to know if this film ever even aired, in this particular iteration anyway. It may be a rough cut or something. Certainly, the Beatles stuff they post is unreleased and unaired. On the other hand, a lot of their other stuff seems to be vintage TV shows (Sullivan, Shindig, etc.).

Non-studio films like this tend to be record label-funded/produced affairs, but it isn't impossible that TV station commissioned it.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 26, 2015, 12:40:07 PM
It is so basic its likely they were at a hotel and got the call to go into the grounds and film the promo ASAP.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on October 26, 2015, 12:41:51 PM
Footage like this to me justifies why there should be a Beach Boys equivalent to the upcoming Beatles 1 collection.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 26, 2015, 12:50:16 PM
I can’t pull out “Endless Harmony” and watch right now, but was this footage/shoot also used for that little bit of footage seen near the end of “Endless Harmony” with Carl and Dennis getting up off the grass and leaving?

The “Revolver” channel on YouTube somehow has some pretty rare stuff. It got pulled down, but they had up some actual John Lennon 1980 studio footage (which seemed to be used in an unreleased version of the 1998 “I’m Losing You” promo video). They also posted clips from Furmanek’s unreleased 1992 “Let It Be” restoration, outtakes from the “Rain”, “Hello Goodbye”, and “Strawberry Fields Forever” promo films, and “Let It Be” outtake footage in color, different from the black and white stuff that has circulated for years.

Was thinking of the EH doco myself. Like you its out of reach but isn't there a scene from another angle (side on) of the group jumping off a low wall? Can't recall if they are wearing summer or winter clothing.

Yes! Same shoot about 5 seconds in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P2rNmox86Q


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on October 26, 2015, 01:06:26 PM
Fantastic stuff! Never seen it before.

Bellagio mentions an Oct 2nd '68 session which was used for the 'I Can Hear Music' promo. Perhaps they just stepped outside for a quick romp through the park?

Nope - I meant that the footage of that recording session was used for the "ICHM" promo.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Custom Machine on October 26, 2015, 01:58:35 PM

I have it on good word that there are shots of the guys in these same outfits in the raw footage shot by Vic Kettle from the 1969 European tour.  More to come...

Lee

OK, as Lee says, this must be from the Vic Kettle unfinished/unreleased European Tour documentary that Jon Stebbins also mentions here:

That's all from the late '68 to '69 European tour documentary filmed by Vic Kettle...which was unreleased/unfinished...but snuck out for a minute via gray market a couple of years ago. The soundtrack is dubbed on top of the silent footage in a sometimes random and amateurish way...but that footage is gold. The doc. ran about 60 minutes...but there's another 60 to 90 minutes of unedited footage that exists.

Exactly what all is known about this documentary, and who has official access to it? How much has seen release, in one form or another, thus far?


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: STE on October 26, 2015, 02:52:43 PM

"Unfortunately, this video is not available in your country because it could contain music from UMG, for which we could not agree on conditions of use with GEMA. "

God forbid some European ears would hear a tiny bit of UMG music! What a disaster that would be!





Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Cool Cool Water on October 27, 2015, 03:09:29 AM
Excellent footage!


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: 37!ws on October 27, 2015, 07:22:19 AM
I'm pretty sure in the Dennis montage in An American Band there's footage fo Dennis roller skating in the same outfit he's got on in this promo.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 27, 2015, 08:37:09 AM
Outstanding!


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Mike's Beard on October 27, 2015, 08:52:07 AM
Did I dream it or wasn't this video posted here a short while ago? Great snapshot of the band in '69 all the same.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on October 27, 2015, 09:13:29 AM
Did I dream it or wasn't this video posted here a short while ago? Great snapshot of the band in '69 all the same.

It was, in the media section.  That one was deleted.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Mike's Beard on October 27, 2015, 09:15:28 AM
Thanks.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 27, 2015, 12:04:13 PM
I'm pretty sure in the Dennis montage in An American Band there's footage fo Dennis roller skating in the same outfit he's got on in this promo.

Same clip as yesterday. 35 seconds in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P2rNmox86Q


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: bonnie bella on October 27, 2015, 08:47:46 PM
Oh wow!  That made my day!!

Can I just say Carl looks cute here trippin' over stuff, Mike should put those legs away, and Bruce looks a lot like my aunty in the 70s.

Thanks very much.  Going back to watch that again...


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Sound of Free on October 27, 2015, 09:03:49 PM
Wow, it's great seeing footage you've never seen before. Thanks for posting!


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on October 27, 2015, 11:59:28 PM
Going to copy some of their dance moves.
Save the whole vid. You never know if it's going to be deleted again like the last time the link in the Media subforum (which I assume had another uploader?).

 Thanks for posting, Mr. Jude. Very much appreciated. Don't care for the Beatles stuff, though.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: rogerlancelot on October 29, 2015, 11:16:20 PM
Don't care for the Beatles stuff, though.

I don't really care much for Michael Jackson. For some reason or another, I never have understood him and found his music too "plastic" and "lightweight". I wonder what the Beatles thought about Black Sabbath. That has never come up before that I know of. Does God have a favorite Ozzy Osbourne or KISS song? This will be bugging me for at least another few seconds.


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: The Cool One on August 05, 2016, 02:21:44 PM
In an american Band you can see a shot of Dennis in the grass of that day.

There two documentaries of Vic Kettle of Beach Boys in European Tour: One of 1968 and 1969

1968 was completed and bootleged but 1969 was unreleased and snippets appeared on documentary

scenes of 1968 includes the boat scene that appears on An American Band with background sound of Sloop John B or Beat Club Colour Footage.

Scenes of 1969 includes Rock and Roll Woman in Brigthon or Dinner Talking


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Banana on August 07, 2016, 01:02:14 PM
Mike looks like he's on the magic mushrooms  :hat


He was high on apple juice!


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on August 07, 2016, 01:14:38 PM
Carl is sporting a Way Cool look there, from one guy to another, he's pretty even for me hehe
maybe I'm ?ing my orientation!


Title: Re: Rare (?) 1969 I Can Hear Music Promo Film
Post by: Ian on August 17, 2016, 09:39:38 AM
It is indeed from the June 1969 European tour-my guess is Bratislava on June 18.