Title: Imaginary albums: The Golden State (1974), California Feeling (1975)... Post by: shangaijoeBB on September 26, 2015, 06:38:39 AM Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975)
In the tradition of soniclovenoize's blog, this is my first entry in my revamp of the mid-70s Beach Boys albums "that never were". Imagine if you will that, after Holland, Dennis took over the production role from Carl and became the forefront songwriter with Brian through the end of the 70s. And while we're at it, let's just say that Blondie and Ricky stayed with the band just a bit more before quitting in late 1974. I used all the best possible sources available and bossaro's mix of We're Together Again (alternate version). Enjoy! (and sorry about my bad english) (http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/ab/e5/abe5ec850fa565e11232d6c8392c0a48.jpg?itok=Spx2e2N4) The Beach Boys - California Slide (1974) http://www98.zippyshare.com/v/EGXtwFFA/file.html 1. California Slide 2. Hard Times 3. Out In The Country 4. Big Sur 5. Carry Me Home 6. It's A New Day 7. We're Together Again 8. We Got Love 9. Awake 10. Holy Man After the mass success of the compilation Endless Summer, the world is eager to hear new material from the Boys. Using outtakes from the band's past material, Dennis quickly assemble in late summer 1974 California Slide, named after his unreleased song from 1969. Most songs are outtakes heralding from the Surf's Up/Carl & The Passions/Holland era. Mike's beautiful alternate version of the Holland song Big Sur is finally heard (in a tactic that reminds the back to back albums versions of Help Me Ronda/Rhonda) A brand new Brian song, Awake, a 1972 demo for Spring, is one of the last bit of showcase of his beautiful falsetto voice. The only other Brian song on the record is a country reworking of the 1969 outtake We're Together Again. The record ends up with the beautiful Dennis composition, Holy Man, featuring an exceptional lead by Carl (yeah, you'll have to use your imagination on that one, sorry). Released in late summer 1974, California Slide is a critical success but sales are low and on par with the previous records. Newer fans who were reintroduced to the band with Endless Summer are disappointed when expected to hear ''fun in the sun''-style songs that were on the double LP compilation. By the end of the year, after exhausting and exhaustive touring, both Blondie Chaplin and Ricky Fataar quit the band and Jack Rieley is sacked as the band manager. The boys are starting to leave their more progressive sound and are headed back into oldies territory that the industry and record-buying public demands... The Beach Boys - Good Timin' (1975) http://www98.zippyshare.com/v/EMGPmfea/file.html 1. Good Timin' 2. Susie Cincinnati 3. Had To Phone Ya 4. San Miguel 5. Rainbows 6. Rollin' Up To Heaven 7. It's Ok 8. Barnyard Blues 9. H.E.L.P Is On The Way 10. Back Home 11. Pacific Ocean Blues 12. River Song 13. California Feelin' Move forward to 1975, both brother Carl and Dennis try to coax Brian into writing new songs for their next LP. His new compositions (Good Timin', It's OK, Had To Phone Ya, Rollin' Up To Heaven, California Feelin') are really back in line with the fun-in-the-sun image that the band deserted the past few years. On the other side of the Wilson clan, Dennis' songs grows more progressive and rock-oriented (Rainbows, Barnyard Blues, Pacific Ocean Blues, River Song). Rounding up the record are 4 outtakes from the Sunflower-Landlocked era (Susie Cincinatti, San Miguel, H.E.L.P Is On The Way, Back Home) that fits the overall happy country-sounding mood of the record. The album is released summer 1975 and is both an instant smash hit and a critical success! Yah! Next up, in the tradition of The Band's Moondog Matinee and John Lennon's Rock 'N' Roll, the band tackles their favorite 50s and 60s rock n roll songs in the 1976 cover album 15 BIG ONES... Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Magic Transistor Radio on September 26, 2015, 08:27:46 AM Nice! I will give this a listen when I have a chance.
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Gerry on September 26, 2015, 09:18:46 AM For the life of me I don't get why fans create these "what if" situations. Then again ,I don't understand fantasy football either.
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: bgas on September 26, 2015, 09:20:48 AM For the life of me I don't get why fans create these "what if" situations. Then again ,I don't understand fantasy football either. Fantasy football is otherwise known as Soccer, right? Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 26, 2015, 09:55:26 AM Given that "Holy Man" first saw tape June 24th 1974, it'd have to be a very late summer release... and I think DW would have included "(WIBNT)LA" over pretty much every track you've listed. ;D
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: MikestheGreatest!! on September 26, 2015, 02:24:00 PM The release of these two theoretical albums may have theoretically ended their career!
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Moon Dawg on September 26, 2015, 02:30:33 PM GOOD TIMIN' plus "Holy Man" would be a viable LP. Leave CALIFORNIA SLIDE on the shelf.
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Gerry on September 26, 2015, 02:54:25 PM You are correct bgas and for you that is....GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Lonely Summer on September 26, 2015, 08:42:33 PM GOOD TIMIN' plus "Holy Man" would be a viable LP. Leave CALIFORNIA SLIDE on the shelf. Agreed.Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Smilin Ed H on September 27, 2015, 01:47:51 AM California Slide's pretty good, but yeah, if you're going to add tracks that were lying around, WIBNTLA needs to be on there, though We're Together Again is completely the wrong period and Awake isn't good enough - replace it with Barnyard Blues or San Miguel. Good Timin' doesn't work for me because there are too many songs that were released shortly afterwards.
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: shangaijoeBB on September 27, 2015, 04:48:20 AM WIBNTLA would have been on Landlocked/Surf's Up that's why it isn't here. You know what, let's see you guys try something interesting and creative around what most people consider the worst of the Beach Boys albums so I can just leave a negative feedback later. That's the internet for ya!
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Smilin Ed H on September 27, 2015, 07:08:31 AM An unrealistic 14 song set
I haven't worked out the order, but... It's a New Day We Got Love Barnyard Blues Out in the Country Big Sur Fourth of July Carry Me Home San Miguel Hard Times California Slide Mt Vernon and Fairway track Barbara Wishing You Were Here (and why not?) WIBNTLA And yes, WIBNTLA, Born on the 4th and Big Sur are all on my extended Surf's Up, but what the hell. Now I need some cover art... Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Smilin Ed H on September 27, 2015, 09:52:16 AM (http://i59.tinypic.com/21n02ef.jpg)
I thought if I was recycling songs, I might as well recycle some other stuff... Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Phoenix on September 27, 2015, 12:12:12 PM I think DW would have included "(WIBNT)LA" over pretty much every track you've listed. ;D I concur. And am I the only one who prefers "Sweet And Bitter" to several of these songs? Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Andrew G. Doe on September 27, 2015, 10:45:03 PM WIBNTLA would have been on Landlocked/Surf's Up that's why it isn't here. You know what, let's see you guys try something interesting and creative around what most people consider the worst of the Beach Boys albums so I can just leave a negative feedback later. That's the internet for ya! "Most songs are outtakes heralding from the Surf's Up/Carl & The Passions/Holland era. " You were saying ? Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Smilin Ed H on September 27, 2015, 11:59:46 PM For me, it's a bit of fun. It's not the final thing. California Slide won't make my final cut. Too early and, to be honest, I don't like it that much.
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Smilin Ed H on September 28, 2015, 12:00:22 PM I've just re-read the Sweet and Bitter thread? Anyone ever find out more about this?
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: yonderhillside on September 28, 2015, 04:03:57 PM I dig it man. Don't let the haters bother ya. Did you mix these or just compile them? Just curious.
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Sheriff John Stone on September 28, 2015, 04:35:41 PM ShangaijoeBB, I love threads like these. I love the "what if's" - just for the fun of it. You did some nice work in compiling those albums "that never were". This is my take...
I don't think it was absolutely necessary to release a Beach Boys album in early 1974. Endless Summer was only released in late June 1974 and went to No. 1 in October of that year. So, maybe at the earliest a Christmas 1974 release would've been good, but maybe an early spring 1975 release would've been better. I'm not sure why you included some songs that were already released including "Big Sur" and "We Got Love", and the sound of "We're Together Again" would've sounded out of place; maybe they could've re-recorded it. Frankly, of all the songs you listed, I can only come up with a side full of songs that I would've liked recorded/released, but what a side it would've been! 01 Back Home 02 Had To Phone Ya 03 It's OK 04 Susie Cincinnati 05 Good Timin' 06 River Song 07 California Feelin' Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: shangaijoeBB on October 01, 2015, 04:19:15 PM Smilin Ed H: Actually, before I had ''Sweet and Bitter'' on my playlist instead of ''We're Together Again''. I might just revert to that.
yonderhillside and Sheriff: thanks for your positive feedback. Much appreciated around here it's not something you find often! ::) I though about switching ''River Song'' instead of ''California Slide'' but I just love that Neil Young-esque bad-ass guitar finale. So yes, screw the haters! ;) Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 01, 2015, 11:33:14 PM Just wish we had some kind of confirmation about Sweet and Bitter... Did Stephen Desper really record it?
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: coco1997 on October 04, 2015, 11:15:38 AM Smilin Ed H: Actually, before I had ''Sweet and Bitter'' on my playlist instead of ''We're Together Again''. I might just revert to that. Did you have any other different songs in the "rough draft" of your "California Slide" tracklist before you settled on your final version? I'm going to listen to it with "Sweet & Bitter" replacing "We're Together Again" when I get home tonight. Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Cool Cool Water on October 04, 2015, 11:41:06 AM Interesting----will give a listen now. :hat
Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 18, 2015, 11:15:18 AM The whole thing's a cheat, I know, but at the moment, I've settled on this:
(http://i61.tinypic.com/29ljpxh.jpg) (http://i57.tinypic.com/21cs3nq.jpg) Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: shangaijoeBB on October 29, 2015, 08:20:43 AM Sorry to rebump this but I wanted to share my newest compilations here with other fans:
This is what I roll by these days: 1-If the band would have let go of their urge to record oldies and continued into the same musical direction after Holland and 2-Treated Dennis Wilson as its main songwriter after Brian. 3-Blondie and Ricky stayed on board for one more album. (There is still an "oldies" record but they're all on one record instead of severals) Golden State (1974) produced by The Beach Boys 01 River Song 02 Hard Times 03 Out In The Country 04 Iv'e Got A Friend 05 Carry Me Home 06 It's A New Day 07 Sweet And Bitter 08 We Got Love 09 Sweet Mountain 10 Holy Man Good Timin' (1975) produced by The Beach Boys 01 Good Timin' 02 Susie Cincinnati 03 Had To Phone Ya 04 Rainbows 05 H.E.L.P Is On The Way 06 Rollin' Up To Heaven 07 It's Ok 08 San Miguel 09 Barnyard Blues 10 Back Home 11 Pacific Ocean Blues 12 California Feelin' (demo) Rock N' Roll Music (1976) produced by Brian Wilson 01 Rock N' Roll Music 02 Come Go With Me 03 Chapel Of Love 04 Running Bear 05 Talk To Me 06 Sea Cruise 07 Mony, Mony 08 Palisades Park 09 Peggy Sue 10 A Casual Look 11 Blueberry Hill 12 Shake, Rattle And Roll 13 In The Still Of The Night 14 Just Once In My Life Brian Wilson - Brian Loves You & Adult/Child (1977) (Couldn't tackle M.I.U into a coherent, more "progressive" sounding record. They are a few great songs here and there, but not enough to compile into a full LP) L.A. (1979) produced by The Beach Boys 01 California Feeling (L.A. version) 02 Lady Lynda 03 Full Sail 04 Angel Come Home 05 Love Surrounds Me 06 Sumahama 07 Constant Companion 08 Baby Blue 09 Looking Down The Coast 10 Santa Ana Winds (1978 version) 11 Goin' South 12 Mexico Endless Harmony (1982) produced by The Beach Boys 01 Goin' On 02 Oh Darlin' (alternate) 03 School Girl 04 Livin' With A Heartache 05 It's Not Too Late 06 It's Like Heaven 07 Stevie 08 Love Remembers Me 09 Heaven 10 Cocktails 11 Oh Lord 12 Endless Harmony Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: Smilin Ed H on October 29, 2015, 10:23:02 AM I did a 15 Big Rock and Roll Ones; can't remember the exact tracklist, but all your choices were there plus On Broadway. Don't think I have the cover for this, or I would post it.
My LA - again, playing fast and loose with the truth, is currently this: (http://i68.tinypic.com/ofytf.jpg) (http://i68.tinypic.com/a57xoi.jpg) Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: shangaijoeBB on November 18, 2015, 07:22:04 PM Wow really like that cover Ed! Nice work! Actually, my version of L.A. is really similar to the track list you've made.
I re-uploaded my first imaginary album on vimeo (now with brand spanking new cover art!), for those interested :hat https://vimeo.com/146143110 Title: Re: Albums that never were: California Slide (1974) and Good Timin' (1975) Post by: shangaijoeBB on November 19, 2015, 09:07:46 PM California Feeling (1975) is up next!
https://vimeo.com/146354218 Title: Re: Imaginary albums: The Golden State (1974), California Feeling (1975)... Post by: shangaijoeBB on November 20, 2015, 11:54:00 AM It's a beautiful day in L.A.!
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