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Well, is this a legit release ? Not available in the US & Japan suggests not - One that certainly appears to have slipped the net (so to speak)

PS The Bottom Line Show

http://www.spincds.com/live-at-the-calderone-theater-ny-76-cd-46785

You beat me to it. Wonder how crisp it sounds.

Absolutely not legit.

As an aside, how does the Bottom Line 4/13 show sound compared to the 4/11 “My Father’s Place” recording that floats around? Interesting that two successive shows on Carl’s solo tour were both broadcast on the radio?

I recorded the Bottom Line show myself, live off the air, yet it still doesn't sound quite as good as the Long Island show that I downloaded about 10 years ago.  Pretty close though.

Now also available at amazon uk.

I've ordered some stuff at Spin before but they sometimes haven't been able to supply which, as you have to pay upfront, means the onus is on you to monitor the order, cancel if necessary and request a refund. More trouble than its worth at the end of the day, to my mind.

Now also available at amazon uk.

I've ordered some stuff at Spin before but they sometimes haven't been able to supply which, as you have to pay upfront, means the onus is on you to monitor the order, cancel if necessary and request a refund. More trouble than its worth at the end of the day, to my mind.

This needs to be a legit cd. Some fans that don't like the way these songs sound on the studio cd might like the live versions.

I'd buy a live cd from Carl's tour. It's been a while since I've listened to one of the shows, but if I remember correctly Carl and his band did a damn good version of "I Thank You" by Sam and Dave

Oh yes, they certainly DID!

I could be misremembering, but I think “I Thank You” was part of the very small number of 1983 gigs. Not sure if he did it at any 1981 gigs. I think I’ve heard one pretty awful-sounding (in terms of sound quality, not performance) audience recording of Carl doing “I Thank You” in 1983. It was so muddy it was hard to make heads or tails of it.

Carl did perform "I Thank You" in 1981 according to this:

http://members.tripod.com/~fun_fun_fun/4-12-81.html
http://members.tripod.com/~fun_fun_fun/4-13-81.html

I've preordered it from Amazon UK.  Hopefully it will arrive!

Same here… inspired by yesterday's price drop!!!

Is anything known about the 2 Myrna Smith songs "Treat Me Right" and "I'm Not Dreaming"?  Are these songs from the unreleased album that Carl produced for her?

Treat Me Right is a Pat Benatar song.

Just had word from Amazon that I might not receive this until early January. Bummer

The Wait is Over!  Amazon UK has shipped mine.  Strange arrival date of 9 December, but I've never had anything ordered from the UK take more than a week to get here.  They charged my card on the 16th, $18.88 US after a couple of small fees.

The companies making these are small businesses I suspect, but I have bought one of the Steve Stills shows, and that one sounded real good.

I have the Long Island show, sorta.  It's a Mp3 file titled as the Bottom Line, but the date is 12 April 1981...that's the date of the My Father's Place show in Roslyn, NY, broadcast by WLIR.  Carl always opened with "Too Early To Tell" - that is missing.  It fades in with the last minute of the second song, "Bright Lights" and cuts Myrna's songs.  You get a good and funky "What You Gonna Do About Me?" (7:09), "Long Promised Road" "Hurry Love" "The Grammy" "Heaven" "Hold Me" and a smokin' (better than the record) "The Right Lane."  The tell on these files is that the last song is listed as "What You Do to Me," but is really the encore, "I Thank You."  Somebody mentioned not being sure Carl played "I Thank You" at every show on both/all shows.  He did on all the ones I saw at The Old Waldorf, both tours.  The sound is a bit bass heavy, but fairly clear - vocals are great.  Carl mentions the record was released "a couple of weeks ago"... so the early April date sounds right.  I have a brother-in-law that grew up on Long Island and went to and recorded many of the WLIR shows at My Father's Place.  He didn't record Carl's show, but he is trying to help me find it.  He knows a lot of active tapers/traders.

Let's hope that somebody will come up with a Second Tour show one of these days.  Maybe somebody was taping at one of the Doobie Brothers dates.

I'm excited about finally getting this show.  Amazon UK has this in stock.  I would act quickly.  This has been a shaky release (I ordered it back in October), who knows how long it will be around.

Got mine today and that's a good summation. Nice thing to have.

I have the Bottom Line show on a cassette, and an audience tape from a later show, same tour. Being a radio broadcast, the Bottom Line recording is pretty good, but I would love to have a cleaner recording. But it's good enough to recognize how much livelier these songs are 'live' than on the album.

Mine arrived today too.  I was half expecting to never receive it so it was a nice surprise when I came home to it. ;D

Just ordered, thanks for the info.

I just received word they are out of production:(

Had my copy for a week or so… been listening occasionally in the car

Sounds like it was recorded from the radio rather than taken from the radio station's actual tapes so the sound is rather flat; pretty sure it's mono too.

If this was a properly mastered clean tape it'd be bloody marvellous; as others have stated the live versions of the songs are ballsier that that LP's, and Carl's adopting a deeper bass voice in places, especially the rockier numbers, maybe influenced by Stephen Stills? The ballads - Heaven – are sheer bliss.

Myrna's voice isn't to my taste and the two tracks that I assume are her solo numbers don't appeal to me; likewise, some of the album's lead guitar breaks (not Carl's) don't move me either - a bit gratuitous really.

A good album to have though, Carl was obviously a great live solo act and let's face it, who here doesn't miss him? Every word sung is priceless.

i've heard worse bootlegs (this is much better than any Carl live boots I have) but I've also heard much, much better.

Shoot, I was hoping to get one!

Lots of em for sale from Amazon sellers as well as Amazon itself.

Thanks.  8)

I treated myself to this and put it in the car this morning. I didn't get to listen to it all but was impressed with the version of Long Promised Road (even with the obvious mistake!) and having never really fallen in love with the studio albums before, came across Hurry Love which was soon on repeat. It's much better and much more soulful than the studio version and I keep thinking it should have Beach Boys vocals to make it more of a BB song! It's in the mould of Angel Come Home I think.

So having listened to just 5 songs so far I'm glad I spent the money on it.

Same company is now selling the concert from My Father’s Place as well: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LY8TAJZ/

Cool, will have to check this out. Love the first disc, nice to hear it in high quality sound after listening to a 3rd generation cassette for years.