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Title: New Brian interview Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2006, 04:47:53 PM Quote Brian for Byron RITCHIE YORKE 25jun06 ON the eve of a holiday on the island of Maui, in Hawaii, Brian Wilson lights up with an electric laugh over the transcontinental phone lines. The Beach Boys founder is simply thrilled at the prospect of headlining the Splendour in the Grass festival in Byron Bay on July 22-23. Never mind that – unlike virtually every rootsy muso on the planet – he's never heard of Byron Bay. And barely of Brisbane, where he first surfaced in 1964 to be met by yours truly, an aspiring young rock journo. But that's another story for another place. After years of stage fright, the 64-year old Brian – as he thoroughly proved in the Smile tour performance at QPAC in 2005 – is relishing the rigours of performance abroad. And he keeps on turning out staggeringly high-quality efforts with his new 10-piece lineup. The Splendour show will consist of his "greatest hits" repertoire. Few could boast such a bountiful quiver of hit arrows. There might even be a surprise or two, hints Brian amid excited endorsement of his next "rock 'n' roll" project. He insists it will be the greatest album of his career, no minor claim from such a prodigious musical giant. Brian says he's written some of the key tunes and he's excited about their quality. So should we be, knowing his penchant for pulling out near-perfect audio visions. You don't have to be a professional pundit to realise that Brian Wilson is capable of just about anything. These days, it's pretty obvious that he is on an upward spiral. "My state of being has been elevated," he croons, "because I've been exercising, writing songs. "I'm in a better frame of mind these days. "It feels great – it's like I see some light. Things make sense to me again." One aspect of modern existence that doesn't make any sense to Brian Wilson is rock radio. He says that he simply cannot listen to the music on today's radio formats, because it has so little to do with the origins of the music that changed his life. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Ron on July 04, 2006, 05:41:58 PM I got one word for ya
YAY!!! Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2006, 05:47:20 PM My only concern is who the producer is. I'd like it to be Darian, but that won't happen now that's he's out.
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Ron on July 04, 2006, 05:57:45 PM You're not happy with Brian producing it? Lemme give you a list of famous songs he's recorded.
*Every Good BB's Song* That's pretty complete, look it over Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: the captain on July 04, 2006, 05:59:44 PM And the list of good songs he's produced on his own recently?
... Waiting... ... Waiting... ... Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2006, 06:39:22 PM And the list of good songs he's produced on his own recently? ... Waiting... ... Waiting... ... More like... and the list of songs credited as being produced by him that actually *were* produced by him in the past, I dunno how many years...how long's he been married again...okay in the past ten years? Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Chris Brown on July 04, 2006, 07:14:01 PM I'd like it to be Darian, but that won't happen now that's he's out. Maybe I missed something but what's going on with Darian? Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2006, 08:23:43 PM He's working for Disney.
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: jlaird on July 04, 2006, 08:43:48 PM Can someone go further into the Darian thing?
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 04, 2006, 09:05:45 PM Well basically he's doing the music for some Disney series, along with Probyn,Nelson and Nick- the Replacements is the name of the show. It's for like a year or so. That's the *official* story.
As for what's going on, it's not my place to say. Let me just say...notice how both the Christmas album and the new "Spirit of Rock & Roll" and "Walking in the Path of Life" feature a (ahem) "stripped down" band? If anyone else wants to pick this up, be my guest! :hat Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: peerke on July 04, 2006, 10:19:29 PM NOW, I'm curious!
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Chris Brown on July 04, 2006, 10:41:52 PM That's interesting news, I hadn't heard anything about Disney and the band. If Darian and those few others you mentioned are busy with that show then I wonder if they have been participating in any of the recording that Brian has been doing of late? It will be interesting to see how this plays out...
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 04, 2006, 11:36:50 PM Well basically he's doing the music for some Disney series, along with Probyn,Nelson and Nick- the Replacements is the name of the show. It's for like a year or so. That's the *official* story. As for what's going on, it's not my place to say. Let me just say...notice how both the Christmas album and the new "Spirit of Rock & Roll" and "Walking in the Path of Life" feature a (ahem) "stripped down" band? If anyone else wants to pick this up, be my guest! :hat Funny - my version of the Xmas album credits the whole band, and they're sure as hell all there on the EPK clips. 8) Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Andrew G. Doe on July 04, 2006, 11:40:18 PM That's interesting news, I hadn't heard anything about Disney and the band. If Darian and those few others you mentioned are busy with that show then I wonder if they have been participating in any of the recording that Brian has been doing of late? It will be interesting to see how this plays out... My understanding is that only Darian is in the employ of Uncle Walt, but he will ask the rest of The 'Mints to help out on the recordings. He was depped by Gary Griffin in Vegas. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: shelter on July 05, 2006, 02:07:45 AM Quote He insists it will be the greatest album of his career ::) Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 05, 2006, 04:13:35 AM Well basically he's doing the music for some Disney series, along with Probyn,Nelson and Nick- the Replacements is the name of the show. It's for like a year or so. That's the *official* story. As for what's going on, it's not my place to say. Let me just say...notice how both the Christmas album and the new "Spirit of Rock & Roll" and "Walking in the Path of Life" feature a (ahem) "stripped down" band? If anyone else wants to pick this up, be my guest! :hat Well slap me backwards and call me Melissa! I stand corrected. :lol Seriously though, i have no idea why I lumped the Christmas album in there. Funny - my version of the Xmas album credits the whole band, and they're sure as hell all there on the EPK clips. 8) Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Ron on July 05, 2006, 06:10:54 AM Andrew, you probably lumped the Christmas album in there because when Brian toured the album promotionally Darian and a few others weren't there for those 1 off performances on Leno, etc.
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Jonas on July 05, 2006, 06:15:49 AM I loves me some Disney. I'd love to work for their sound production.
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Glenn Greenberg on July 05, 2006, 09:52:22 AM Never mind. Please delete.
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Aegir on July 05, 2006, 10:48:08 AM Andrew, you probably lumped the Christmas album in there because when Brian toured the album promotionally Darian and a few others weren't there for those 1 off performances on Leno, etc. Andrew didn't actually say that; "Smurf's Up" did but he wrote on the wrong side of the quotes.Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: theCOD on July 05, 2006, 12:05:01 PM Quote He insists it will be the greatest album of his career ::) Seriously. Old people can't make good music, and that's a scientific fact. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Chris Brown on July 05, 2006, 12:37:37 PM Quote He insists it will be the greatest album of his career ::) Seriously. Old people can't make good music, and that's a scientific fact. That's another debate for another time (although I certainly see your point), but even if its not the greatest album of Brian's career (which I don't think it will be), I'm just happy to see that he has this much confidence in what he's doing. I think it shows that he's not just phoning this one in, and that he's really trying to make it great. When Brian gives 100% he's capable of incredible things, so I'm excited to hear what he's so excited and confident about. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: shelter on July 05, 2006, 12:53:18 PM Seriously. Old people can't make good music, and that's a scientific fact. I thought McCartney's last album was pretty great though. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Wilsonista on July 05, 2006, 01:34:39 PM Well basically he's doing the music for some Disney series, along with Probyn,Nelson and Nick- the Replacements is the name of the show. It's for like a year or so. That's the *official* story. As for what's going on, it's not my place to say. Let me just say...notice how both the Christmas album and the new "Spirit of Rock & Roll" and "Walking in the Path of Life" feature a (ahem) "stripped down" band? If anyone else wants to pick this up, be my guest! :hat Putting quotes around "official" implies that there is some secret reason as to why Darian is taking time off from Brian. Everything that has been posted elsewhere about this is accurate. And it is only Darian that is taking time away - Nick and Probyn are still very much in the band. I don't forsee that changing anytime soon. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 05, 2006, 04:00:20 PM Quote Putting quotes around "official" implies that there is some secret reason as to why Darian is taking time off from Brian. Everything that has been posted elsewhere about this is accurate. And it is only Darian that is taking time away - Nick and Probyn are still very much in the band. I don't forsee that changing anytime soon. Actually, those weren't quotes, they were asterisks, which is another way of putting emphasis without using the bold tags. That said, you bet there's more to the story. Oh, and to clarify...yes, it's only Darian who will be on hiatus, although the others mentioned are supposedly helping. Just don't be surprised if Darian's hiatus is permanent. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: jlaird on July 05, 2006, 04:12:31 PM I WILL BE SURPRISED!!!!!
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Ron on July 05, 2006, 05:00:20 PM Quote He insists it will be the greatest album of his career ::) Seriously. Old people can't make good music, and that's a scientific fact. Absolutely loved Paul Macca's last album, I think some of the songs on that qualified as "good". Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Daniel S. on July 05, 2006, 06:21:23 PM Did Darian and Brian have a falling out?
Maybe Brian is mad at how Darian sequenced Smile? :lol Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on July 05, 2006, 06:49:13 PM Did Darian and Brian have a falling out? Maybe Brian is mad at how Darian sequenced Smile? As far as I know, Brian & Darian's not the problem here. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: jlaird on July 05, 2006, 07:17:37 PM Then what is the problem?
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: the captain on July 05, 2006, 07:29:39 PM I thought McCartney's last album was pretty great though. I thought it was more of the same. Did Darian and Brian have a falling out? Maybe Brian is mad at how Darian sequenced Smile? Please. I'm sure the mad genius is sitting back thinking how he would've done so much better... Darian finished Smile. Brian didn't. Brian owes Darian and his group more than anyone ever wants to talk about. (Of course, they owe him, too...name recognition). Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Peter Reum on July 06, 2006, 12:32:21 AM The tone of this thread is at times off kilter. Brian loves Smile. He sequenced it with Darian. Brian produces Brian's music, Darian has input, but Brian is responsible for what is finally on the cd. Darian has always had a love of film composing, and now has a chance to do it. There is no falling out. He simply got an offer he couldn't refuse, at a time when Brian was not that busy.
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Jim McShane on July 06, 2006, 06:40:27 AM The tone of this thread is at times off kilter. Brian loves Smile. He sequenced it with Darian. Brian produces Brian's music, Darian has input, but Brian is responsible for what is finally on the cd. Darian has always had a love of film composing, and now has a chance to do it. There is no falling out. He simply got an offer he couldn't refuse, at a time when Brian was not that busy. Don't forget the 'Mints did a bunch of work for the Austin Powers movie soundtrack too, it's not something brand new to DS and his comrades. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Roger Ryan on July 06, 2006, 06:44:48 AM Exactly. These guys aren't married after all. Darian had a life before getting involved with Brian and has recorded as part of the Wondermints and played keyboards on tour for Heart while maintaining membership in the Brian Wilson Band. If the Disney deal keeps him too busy to work with Brian in the future, well...that's showbiz.
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Sheriff John Stone on July 06, 2006, 06:57:37 AM Brian loves Smile. He sequenced it with Darian. Brian produces Brian's music, Darian has input, but Brian is responsible for what is finally on the cd. After watching the "Beautiful Dreamer" DVD, to say "Darian has input" is an understatement. Same with Jeff Foskett. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: theCOD on July 06, 2006, 07:39:15 AM I should have put a "rolling eyes" smiley or something after my post. People never lose the ability to make good music... they lose interest, or inspiration. I think SMiLE helped Brian get both back. He sounds more and more like 60's Brian than 90's Brian these days.
Even if it's not the "greatest album of his career," it won't be another GIOMH. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: theCOD on July 06, 2006, 07:43:52 AM Brian loves Smile. He sequenced it with Darian. Brian produces Brian's music, Darian has input, but Brian is responsible for what is finally on the cd. After watching the "Beautiful Dreamer" DVD, to say "Darian has input" is an understatement. Same with Jeff Foskett. "Yes, I know that, unlike myself, you've actually met Brian Wilson, but this DVD here says..." :lol Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: endofposts on July 06, 2006, 02:38:47 PM None of us were there, so it's all speculation. David Leaf was around for "Smile," and "Beautiful Dreamer" is indicative of what happened as David chose to see it and show it. I think Darian did carry a lot of the weight for "Smile." Brian may have grown to love it, but he had very ambivalent feelings at first, to say the least. He still doesn't want the original tapes released. Darian reconstructed Brian's arrangements from the original tapes, and I'm not sure Brian was even that interested in sitting down and listening to them (the '66-'67 tapes), at least not in an extended way. So, technically, you can say Brian produced "Smile," just because his original arrangements were copied so faithfully by Darian. When it came to the sequencing, Darian and Brian did collaborate, or at least as shown on the documentary. Though it appears that Darian played the songs for him, rather that sitting down and listening to the original tapes. Brian also completed the one song with Van Dyke Parks. Then, Darian led the band in the studio, with Brian there for input. Brian probably worked with Darian on the final mixdown. It was a combined effort, I'm sure, and the credits on the CD reflect that.
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: absinthe_boy on July 07, 2006, 01:17:45 AM OK so I am no more privileged than the majority of fans here in that my interaction with Brian is limited to him smiling at my camera lens a few times at one gig...
But my impression is very much that there were times when Brian had little interest...probably due to fears surrounding the SMiLE experience. During those times I am sure Darian held the project together. It seems this may have been at the very beginning, and again when the sequenced SMiLE was first rehearsed by the band. At other times, Brian was fully into the project and in control. You only have to read interviews with such luminaries as Van Dyke Parks, Darian, Jeff, David Leaf and Brian himself to see that....and of course if you look at the footage taken by the time they actually got around to recording BWPS...Brian is clearly as much in control of that studio session as he ever was in 1966. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Roger Ryan on July 07, 2006, 11:11:36 AM Actually, the scene in "Beautiful Dreamer" where Darian and Brian were discussing the sequencing of "Child Is Father Of The Man", "Surf's Up" etc. was staged for the camera a good four or five months after "SMiLE" was premiered in London. Leaf needed more material on the creation of the new, complete "SMiLE" (Darian's handycam footage wasn't optimum), so he had Darian and Brian improvise something which is exactly what it looks like. By the accounts I heard, Brian went through all of the song titles of known material written in '66 and' 67 and determined which ones he wanted to be part of "SMiLE". From there, he and Darian listened to all of the relevant sessions and determined what parts went where. According to Darian, Brian was the one who determined that "Look" (Song For Children) would follow "Wonderful", recalled the melody line to "Do You Like Worms?" and was the one to contact Van Dyke Parks about completing new lyrics. Darian became a very important collaborator for the revisited "SMiLE", equally important in his own way as Van Dyke had been in '66.
Also, it has been noted that both Brian and Van Dyke Parks listened to a compilation of the original sessions edited together in a fashion that mimicked the final sequence prior to Parks working on his new lyrics. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: endofposts on July 07, 2006, 03:10:42 PM Every interview I've read with Darian and other band members seems to imply that Darian and the rest of the band pretty much led the sessions themselves, for the instrumental parts. Brian would comment on them. For example, when the band did "Surf's Up," Brian gave them a compliment: "Right the f*** on!" He had to be led through the listening and sequencing sessions in baby steps, though he did remember and contribute things once he was in them. It is his work, of course, but it probably never would have been done without the support of Darian and the others. I'm not saying Brian is no longer competent enough to do it, because I've no doubt he is, but it wasn't a pleasant task and took a lot of nurturing and hard work from others to make it happen. Darian and the other band members deserve a lot of credit. There was a very enlightening 13-page interview with Darian at CrutchfieldAdvisor.com. Here's a link to one particular page about the Smile sequencing sessions, and links to the other interview pages are also included:
http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-y2dTmQSIs7k/reviews/20041102/brian_wilson_smile.html?page=6 Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: the captain on July 07, 2006, 04:03:45 PM I'm growing a little weary of pointing this out (third time at least on this board)... Oh you poor, poor thing. The effort for you to post that story to people who may not have heard must indeed be herculean. You've truly got not only our sympathies, but our enduring admiration. Of course, you could go ahead and not post it. That might end your suffering. Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Ron on July 07, 2006, 06:28:12 PM You're such a negative person. SMiLE
Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Rerun on July 07, 2006, 06:45:39 PM I'm growing a little weary of pointing this out (third time at least on this board)... Oh you poor, poor thing. The effort for you to post that story to people who may not have heard must indeed be herculean. You've truly got not only our sympathies, but our enduring admiration. Of course, you could go ahead and not post it. That might end your suffering. haha Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: Roger Ryan on July 07, 2006, 07:01:29 PM I'm growing a little weary of pointing this out (third time at least on this board)... Oh you poor, poor thing. The effort for you to post that story to people who may not have heard must indeed be herculean. You've truly got not only our sympathies, but our enduring admiration. Of course, you could go ahead and not post it. That might end your suffering. I'm afraid that opening statement was one of those things that didn't come out right when I posted it. I think I meant something more like "My apologies to those who may be tired of me bringing this up, but...". Message boards try to mimic conversation, but often we don't know the context others see our posts in or, despite the 25 or more emoticons available, it's difficult to determine whether a poster is intending to be sarcastic, satirical, etc. Anyway, since I don't think I am growing weary of discussing all things "SMiLE" and appreciate Ron's advice, I've rewritten the previous post. Oh, and just so this post doesn't completely run off-topic into self-absorption, let me add that I agree with Forget Marie that Darian and the rest of Brian's band played a huge effort in the realization of a completed "SMiLE". Title: Re: New Brian interview Post by: the captain on July 07, 2006, 08:32:00 PM Sorry. I couldn't resist. It's a character flaw in me.
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