Title: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: NateRuvin on July 25, 2015, 09:31:53 PM I always hear legends about Bruce being a session player back in his teen years; apparently playing piano, guitar, and even drums, on sessions, playing with guys like Phil Spector. So what sessions did he not sing on or produce, but provide an instrumental contribution on?
Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: Lonely Summer on July 26, 2015, 01:34:31 PM Okay, I wasn't going to say it - but sure would like to see a list of sessions Bruce clapped on, and adjusted mike stands.
Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: adamghost on July 26, 2015, 01:54:46 PM It's an interesting question.
He definitely was on all the Bruce and Terry/Rip Chords stuff of course. He played piano on Sandy Nelson's "Teenbeat" and I believe "To Know Him Is To Love Him" by the Teddy Bears, Phil Spector's first band. Wikipedia suggests that even from the early days he was a producer first, working at Del-Fi. Jerry Cole once told me a story about a young kid who hung around the studios and remembers him as super talented - it was Bruce - though Jerry specifically remembered him as having also played guitar at that point in time, which I raised an eyebrow at. He of course did tons of sessions as a vocalist in the '70s after he left the band, but I guess that's a different question. My thought would be that he did lots of sessions in his capacity as a staff producer, but probably didn't do much session work per se outside of that capacity, but being in the scene he probably wound up in the pit with the WC guys (and of course Ms. Kaye) enough to draw their notice. Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: clack on July 26, 2015, 02:34:25 PM He did a lot of session work with Paul Revere and the Raiders (produced by Terry of course). I've also sometimes seen Bruce listed as guitarist as well as vocalist on the 1st Sagittarius single.
Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: bgas on July 26, 2015, 02:40:29 PM Checking Discogs, there's this description: >>His first band was Sleepwalkers together with Kim Fowley and Sandy Nelson. He got fame in the West Coast area of the USA and did several studio appearences. He played bass on Teddy Bears, The hit single "To Know Him Is To Love Him" and drummed in Ritchie Valens' live band. <<
Plus this from Wiki: >>In high school, Johnston switched to contemporary music. He performed in a few "beginning" bands during this time and then moved on to working with young musicians such as Sandy Nelson, Kim Fowley, and Phil Spector.[citation needed] Soon Johnston began backing people such as Ritchie Valens,[2] the Everly Brothers, and Eddie Cochran.[citation needed] In 1959, while still in high school, Johnston arranged and played on his first hit record, "Teenbeat" by Sandy Nelson. The single reached the Billboard Top Ten. The same year, Johnston made his first single under his own name, "Take This Pearl" on Arwin Records (a record label owned by Doris Day) as part of the Bruce & Jerry duo (Jerry Cooper was a high school friend of Bruce's).[citation needed] In 1960, Johnston started his record production career at Del-Fi Records, producing five singles and an album – Love You So – by Ron Holden (all but two of the album's eleven tracks were written or co-written by Johnston).[citation needed] In 1962 and 1963, Johnston continued his recording career with a series of surfin' singles (vocal & instrumental) and an album, Surfin' 'Round The World, credited to Bruce Johnston, and another "live" album, The Bruce Johnston Surfin' Band's Surfer's Pajama Party. In 1963 came the first collaboration with his friend Terry Melcher (Doris Day's son), a mostly instrumental covers album credited to The Hot Doggers<< This is the back of my Ron Holden LP, released in 1960; scanned in two halves to fit the scanner and for legibility: (http://i60.tinypic.com/xok2v4.jpg) (http://i59.tinypic.com/e801t4.jpg) Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: punkinhead on July 26, 2015, 02:50:15 PM Ah, I love a young slicked back hair of Bruce's.
Seeing questions like this, makes me think we're begging for a book on Bruce! The hardest part would be the title though, I'm sure it'd be a play on I Write the Songs...but I think we could come up with something better like... "I wish they all could be Disney Girls" Arg, that's all I could cleverly think of. Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: adamghost on July 26, 2015, 02:57:16 PM Oh man, Bruce Johnston could write a hell of a book if he so chose. Not simply about the Beach Boys per se but just being so integral to the music world in the late '50s, '60s and all through the '70s.
Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: SurferDownUnder on July 26, 2015, 03:12:09 PM He played piano on Sandy Nelson's "Teenbeat" and I believe "To Know Him Is To Love Him" by the Teddy Bears, Phil Spector's first band. Was it piano on TKHISLH or bass? I remember reading that it was bass but also reading that Bruce couldn't play bass much until he learned the BB's parts so he could tour with them. Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: JK on July 26, 2015, 03:13:44 PM This is the back of my Ron Holden LP, released in 1960; scanned in two halves to fit the scanner and for legibility: Fascinating! Thanks for posting those scans, bgas. Seems Mr Holden was responsible for importing "Louie Louie" into the Pacific Northwest... Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: JK on July 26, 2015, 03:19:02 PM He played piano on Sandy Nelson's "Teenbeat" and I believe "To Know Him Is To Love Him" by the Teddy Bears, Phil Spector's first band. Was it piano on TKHISLH or bass? I remember reading that it was bass but also reading that Bruce couldn't play bass much until he learned the BB's parts so he could tour with them. It was bass, according to this helpful source: http://www.rockabilly.nl/references/messages/bruce_johnston.htm Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: SurferDownUnder on July 26, 2015, 03:38:08 PM He played piano on Sandy Nelson's "Teenbeat" and I believe "To Know Him Is To Love Him" by the Teddy Bears, Phil Spector's first band. Was it piano on TKHISLH or bass? I remember reading that it was bass but also reading that Bruce couldn't play bass much until he learned the BB's parts so he could tour with them. It was bass, according to this helpful source: http://www.rockabilly.nl/references/messages/bruce_johnston.htm Ah very good, I thought so! Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: bgas on July 26, 2015, 04:23:34 PM Very informative page that Rockabilly! And I tend to forget about the Back sections of Brad's book.
here's the most pertinent concerning his Instrumental contributions ( I can scan OK, but not so great at editing them together...): (http://i62.tinypic.com/nocwzt.jpg) (http://i60.tinypic.com/30vywpk.jpg) (http://i58.tinypic.com/dmvifa.jpg) (http://i60.tinypic.com/2h3q1xl.jpg) (http://i57.tinypic.com/15ofhvn.jpg) (http://i57.tinypic.com/2w36vf4.jpg) (http://i61.tinypic.com/29mauxw.jpg) Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: adamghost on July 27, 2015, 12:49:21 AM He played piano on Sandy Nelson's "Teenbeat" and I believe "To Know Him Is To Love Him" by the Teddy Bears, Phil Spector's first band. Was it piano on TKHISLH or bass? I remember reading that it was bass but also reading that Bruce couldn't play bass much until he learned the BB's parts so he could tour with them. It was bass, according to this helpful source: http://www.rockabilly.nl/references/messages/bruce_johnston.htm Whoa! Did not know that. Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: Fall Breaks on July 27, 2015, 12:54:05 AM So, Bruce has played on a song called LSD-25? Far out.
Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: adamghost on July 27, 2015, 02:13:31 AM Here's the Kip Tyler & The Flips track - piano (I assume that's Bruce) enters at 1:09. It's pretty righteous.
https://youtu.be/lrlz9W7eEts Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: JK on July 27, 2015, 02:24:01 AM I tend to forget about the Back sections of Brad's book. here's the most pertinent concerning his Instrumental contributions ( I can scan OK, but not so great at editing them together...): Never mind your editing, thanks a bunch for alerting us to those pages (I have that book too). Plenty of BJ goodies to sort through! Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: Mark A. Moore on July 27, 2015, 03:21:52 AM Bruce was a semi-regular at Jan Berry's garage studio in Bel Air, and Jan sometimes played piano at Bruce's house (they lived in the same neighborhood). Bruce played live with Jan & Arnie and Ritchie Valens in Pomona in September 1958. The Bruce & Jerry "Pearl" session occurred at Goldstar in early March 1959. Bruce played piano. When I interviewed him, Bruce told me he was not interested in writing a book. But if he did, it would certainly have substance beyond the Beach Boys. In terms of the L.A. rock 'n roll scene, Bruce was there from the beginning. It's clear that Bruce was not merely chosen at random to join the Beach Boys. He had a good reputation and a body of work as a writer, performer, and producer. Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: c-man on July 27, 2015, 05:00:47 AM According to his 1981 interview with Brad Elliott for Goldmine, Bruce was supposed to play on "To Know Her Is To Love Her", but didn't because "I chose to go out with this girl instead." And he says that he and Richie Podolor "really qualify as the writers along with Sandy Nelson" on "Teen Beat", "by virtue of how he put it together", but they were "too green to ask for a writing share." He says it wasn't the first time he appeared on record, but the first hit he played on. He also talks about backing Ritchie Valens, playing on the Nik Venet-produced Renegades single "Charge", Bruce and Jerry, etc. But he doesn't mention playing drums in anyone's band!
Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: Jesse Reiswig on July 27, 2015, 10:08:57 AM This list is also very useful for tracing Bruce's history:
http://www.45cat.com/45_list_view_record.php?li=1384 Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: NateRuvin on July 27, 2015, 10:13:48 AM It's remarkable how many records Bruce was apart of! He could to be considered as important to Surf music as Brian Wilson. He is so damn talented, yet very modest. I really hope he writes a book someday!
Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: adamghost on July 27, 2015, 12:15:01 PM Man I forgot about "Good Music," the Joan Jett-Beach Boys collaboration from '86. What a cool record.
Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: Steve Latshaw on July 27, 2015, 12:21:32 PM Bruce also contributed a song to the fun A.I.P. 1959 drive-in classic GHOST OF DRAGSTRIP HOLLOW. The song in question is a very Bruce-like ballad called "I Promise You" credited to Bruce Johnston and Judy Harriett.
The movie itself is a 65 minute riot... a comedy horror epic with drag racing teens in a car club up to hijinks in a haunted house, where they encounter a beast previously featured in AIP's THE SHE CREATURE. This was the template for the Beach Party movies... GHOST IN THE INVISIBLE BIKINI (1966) was a kind of a nod to this one... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052844/soundtrack?ref_=tt_ql_trv_7 Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: bgas on July 27, 2015, 12:37:26 PM Bruce also contributed a song to the fun A.I.P. 1959 drive-in classic GHOST OF DRAGSTRIP HOLLOW. The song in question is a very Bruce-like ballad called "I Promise You" credited to Bruce Johnston and Judy Harriett. The movie itself is a 65 minute riot... a comedy horror epic with drag racing teens in a car club up to hijinks in a haunted house, where they encounter a beast previously featured in AIP's THE SHE CREATURE. This was the template for the Beach Party movies... GHOST IN THE INVISIBLE BIKINI (1966) was a kind of a nod to this one... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052844/soundtrack?ref_=tt_ql_trv_7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsSsgmM3juc&list=PLbzuemRWgqAbhrdqYUWa6XmRrT0GY0GxT Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: Fall Breaks on July 27, 2015, 01:12:48 PM Man I forgot about "Good Music," the Joan Jett-Beach Boys collaboration from '86. What a cool record. That's a good one! I was really into JJ before I discovered the BB and loved this song from the start without having heard about the Beach Boys. Kenny Laguna tells a cool story about the recording too.Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: Tony S on July 27, 2015, 01:42:38 PM Good Music was a great tune......Joan on lead, Boys on BV's. Listen to it to this day!
Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: adamghost on July 27, 2015, 02:30:26 PM Bruce also contributed a song to the fun A.I.P. 1959 drive-in classic GHOST OF DRAGSTRIP HOLLOW. The song in question is a very Bruce-like ballad called "I Promise You" credited to Bruce Johnston and Judy Harriett. The movie itself is a 65 minute riot... a comedy horror epic with drag racing teens in a car club up to hijinks in a haunted house, where they encounter a beast previously featured in AIP's THE SHE CREATURE. This was the template for the Beach Party movies... GHOST IN THE INVISIBLE BIKINI (1966) was a kind of a nod to this one... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052844/soundtrack?ref_=tt_ql_trv_7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsSsgmM3juc&list=PLbzuemRWgqAbhrdqYUWa6XmRrT0GY0GxT Starts at 12:47 on Part 2. So wait, the credit is Harriett-Johnston? That's prescient. Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: bgas on July 27, 2015, 03:03:16 PM Bruce also contributed a song to the fun A.I.P. 1959 drive-in classic GHOST OF DRAGSTRIP HOLLOW. The song in question is a very Bruce-like ballad called "I Promise You" credited to Bruce Johnston and Judy Harriett. The movie itself is a 65 minute riot... a comedy horror epic with drag racing teens in a car club up to hijinks in a haunted house, where they encounter a beast previously featured in AIP's THE SHE CREATURE. This was the template for the Beach Party movies... GHOST IN THE INVISIBLE BIKINI (1966) was a kind of a nod to this one... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052844/soundtrack?ref_=tt_ql_trv_7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsSsgmM3juc&list=PLbzuemRWgqAbhrdqYUWa6XmRrT0GY0GxT Starts at 12:47 on Part 2. So wait, the credit is Harriett-Johnston? That's prescient. and here's the DVD on Ebay( from Australia is the least expensive for USA shipping) http://www.ebay.com/itm/GHOST-OF-DRAGSTRIP-HOLLOW-DVD-B-W1959-customs-street-rat-hot-rod-/252034371355 Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: Christian on July 30, 2015, 12:12:17 AM Bruce also contributed a song to the fun A.I.P. 1959 drive-in classic GHOST OF DRAGSTRIP HOLLOW. The song in question is a very Bruce-like ballad called "I Promise You" credited to Bruce Johnston and Judy Harriett. also released as a single in August 1959: (http://i61.tinypic.com/2zqczzp.jpg) Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: bgas on July 30, 2015, 03:41:36 AM Bruce also contributed a song to the fun A.I.P. 1959 drive-in classic GHOST OF DRAGSTRIP HOLLOW. The song in question is a very Bruce-like ballad called "I Promise You" credited to Bruce Johnston and Judy Harriett. also released as a single in August 1959: (http://i61.tinypic.com/2zqczzp.jpg) Very cool you have that! What other secret gems do you have to post pics of? Title: Re: Bruce as a session musician. Post by: adamghost on July 30, 2015, 02:43:28 PM AIP had a record label! "I was not aware of that." Makes total sense though.
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